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  • @orion said:

    Thanks for this thread and to those who put effort into it.  But it's hard for me to get excited about a pick late in the second round...until the second round is actually going on.  I mean, almost an infinite bunch of scenarios exist with our first pick.

    With as many selections to be made before our pick and how FA might impact the draft as far as any needs considerations that might come in to play for all teams, I'd say it is infinite.

    @ballpeen said:

    With as many selections to be made before our pick and how FA might impact the draft as far as any needs considerations that might come in to play for all teams, I'd say it is infinite.

    As you say, once we get past the bulk of free agency we can take the 'IN' off of 'infinite' as we might be able to rule out certain positions in the early part of our draft.  Once we get into those 6th & 7th round picks, anything goes again.  

    BTW ballpeen, as of January 8th I am, like you, retired.  I highly recommend it.  Of course, now I have kidney stones.  🙁  I don't highly recommend that.  Right now I'm in what scientists would call,  A meta stable state.  But when I'm having an attack, I wish for the vacuum decay of the universe.  

  • @ballpeen said:

    With as many selections to be made before our pick and how FA might impact the draft as far as any needs considerations that might come in to play for all teams, I'd say it is infinite.

    As you say, once we get past the bulk of free agency we can take the 'IN' off of 'infinite' as we might be able to rule out certain positions in the early part of our draft.  Once we get into those 6th & 7th round picks, anything goes again.  

    BTW ballpeen, as of January 8th I am, like you, retired.  I highly recommend it.  Of course, now I have kidney stones.  🙁  I don't highly recommend that.  Right now I'm in what scientists would call,  A meta stable state.  But when I'm having an attack, I wish for the vacuum decay of the universe.  

    @orion said:

    BTW ballpeen, as of January 8th I am, like you, retired.  I highly recommend it.  Of course, now I have kidney stones.  🙁  I don't highly recommend that.  Right now I'm in what scientists would call,  A meta stable state.  But when I'm having an attack, I wish for the vacuum decay of the universe.  

    I feel for you Orion. I passed one a few years ago and it redefined my 1 to 10 pain scale. Previously 10 had been when I broke my leg and simultaneously dislocated my ankle. That has become a 7. The 10++++ kidney stone felt like what the pain from taking a knife to yourself like the Japanese method of hara-kiri feels like, except no one is there to relieve you of the pain by chopping off your head.?

  • @orion said:

    BTW ballpeen, as of January 8th I am, like you, retired.  I highly recommend it.  Of course, now I have kidney stones.  🙁  I don't highly recommend that.  Right now I'm in what scientists would call,  A meta stable state.  But when I'm having an attack, I wish for the vacuum decay of the universe.  

    I feel for you Orion. I passed one a few years ago and it redefined my 1 to 10 pain scale. Previously 10 had been when I broke my leg and simultaneously dislocated my ankle. That has become a 7. The 10++++ kidney stone felt like what the pain from taking a knife to yourself like the Japanese method of hara-kiri feels like, except no one is there to relieve you of the pain by chopping off your head.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    I feel for you Orion. I passed one a few years ago and it redefined my 1 to 10 pain scale. Previously 10 had been when I broke my leg and simultaneously dislocated my ankle. That has become a 7. The 10++++ kidney stone felt like what the pain from taking a knife to yourself like the Japanese method of hara-kiri feels like, except no one is there to relieve you of the pain by chopping off your head.?

    I dropped a piece of steel on my foot yesterday, and I'd do that every day for the rest of my life to avoid ever going through the pain of a kidney stone again. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I feel for you Orion. I passed one a few years ago and it redefined my 1 to 10 pain scale. Previously 10 had been when I broke my leg and simultaneously dislocated my ankle. That has become a 7. The 10++++ kidney stone felt like what the pain from taking a knife to yourself like the Japanese method of hara-kiri feels like, except no one is there to relieve you of the pain by chopping off your head.?

    I dropped a piece of steel on my foot yesterday, and I'd do that every day for the rest of my life to avoid ever going through the pain of a kidney stone again. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I dropped a piece of steel on my foot yesterday, and I'd do that every day for the rest of my life to avoid ever going through the pain of a kidney stone again. 

    My mother-in-law told me she rated her most difficult birthing of 4 children at a 7 and kidney stone a 10.

  • @ballpeen said:

    With as many selections to be made before our pick and how FA might impact the draft as far as any needs considerations that might come in to play for all teams, I'd say it is infinite.

    As you say, once we get past the bulk of free agency we can take the 'IN' off of 'infinite' as we might be able to rule out certain positions in the early part of our draft.  Once we get into those 6th & 7th round picks, anything goes again.  

    BTW ballpeen, as of January 8th I am, like you, retired.  I highly recommend it.  Of course, now I have kidney stones.  🙁  I don't highly recommend that.  Right now I'm in what scientists would call,  A meta stable state.  But when I'm having an attack, I wish for the vacuum decay of the universe.  

    @orion said:

    As you say, once we get past the bulk of free agency we can take the 'IN' off of 'infinite' as we might be able to rule out certain positions in the early part of our draft.  Once we get into those 6th & 7th round picks, anything goes again.  

    BTW ballpeen, as of January 8th I am, like you, retired.  I highly recommend it.  Of course, now I have kidney stones.  🙁  I don't highly recommend that.  Right now I'm in what scientists would call,  A meta stable state.  But when I'm having an attack, I wish for the vacuum decay of the universe.  

    Welcome to retirement.  It's nice when everyday is the weekend.

    Sorry to hear about the stones.

  • @orion said:

      I mean, almost an infinite bunch of scenarios exist with our first pick.

    That's just it. A slew of Mocks got posted last season up until March 22 2023.. (5 weeks before the draft)

    Jets traded WR Elijah Moore & a 3rd round pick #74 to the Browns. That turned into Elijah Moore & Cedric Tillman. The Jets took a Center, Joe Tippman at the pick we traded #43 

    Who's to say Berry might find trading #54 is the better option again? (pro GM's/staffs get paid to project players draft slot windows/ misfits too,KC K. Toney, example only)

    Attach trading Greg Newsome(rumors) or Wyatt Teller (contract) to pick #54? pick 85? 

    Berry only needs to get the first 55 drafted players coming off the board correct.. Mock experts can't get the first 32 correct  ?

    @gumby73 said:

    Who's to say Berry might find trading #54 is the better option again? (pro GM's/staffs get paid to project players draft slot windows/ misfits too,KC K. Toney, example only)

    Took a look at some options, ruling out now FA's such as Tee Higgins or Michael Pittman. ^^

    Most had rumors at last seasons trade deadline and have contract outs in the 2024 season. You know.. Stuff like, the Jets got to go OL with the 10th pick? But wait, misplaced WR Davante Adams could reunite with A.Rod for that #10 pick? -or- Washington, DC's DT Jonathan Allen to the built to win now Packers . Cost? 2.41 plus 4.125 

    Browns web-dork rumors really like calling the Denver Donkeys? 

    #1. LT Jedrick Wills age 24 on paid 5th year option in 2024 paying 14.6M

    #2. Browns trade pick 2.54 to Denver for WR Jerry Jeudy age 24 owed 13M in 2024. Browns were rumored close to a deal at trade deadline last season. Rumored Denver passed on 2nd & 5th round pick. (team unknown)

    Believable maybe, is the Browns on the clock, with draft names available? -Anybody think Denver would take Jed Wills off our hands for WR Jerry Jeudy straight up? 

    Other articles, seen options with age & out options in 2024..

    #3. Denver---LT Garett Boles age 32 due 18-20M has a out in 2024. WR Cortland Sutton age 28 due 17M has a out in 2024. S Justin Simmons age 30 has a 2024 out option due 18.2M ?  tied to that kind of money option? They'd be lucky to get a 6th or 7th rounder, if a no trade clause isn't in their contracts .

    Dallas Cowboys-- How many times can WR Brandin Cooks be rumored to team up with D.Watson again? Cook's is now age 30, with 10M owed, if plays 2024 season in Dallas? MAR 19 2023 Traded to Dallas (DAL) from Houston (HOU) for 2024 6th round pick and 2023 5th round pick (#161 - traded)   Start trade talks in the 6th?

     just spit-bailing, some media readable draft trade player name options here? Any opinions? other trade names out there?

  • Only 6 more hours of game hype to kill, before a 6 hour game  ? 

    Simple upgraded draft site  https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft

    Large size of WR class, allowed for a few trade backs. Took 3 trades, covering most needs, so took 2nd falling Wide outs 

    C
    64.NFL-team-logo
    T'Vondre SweatDT Texas
    trade-icon  trade

    85.NFL-team-logo

    Roman WilsonWR Michigan

    94.NFL-team-logo

    Blake FisherOT Notre Dame
    trade-icon trade

    132.NFL-team-logo

    MarShawn LloydRB USC
    trade-icon trade

    134.NFL-team-logo

    Ricky PearsallWR Florida

    154.NFL-team-logo

    Curtis JacobsLB Penn State

    207.NFL-team-logo

    Brevyn Spann-FordTE Minnesota

    240.NFL-team-logo

    Nelson CeaserEDGE Houston
  • Only 6 more hours of game hype to kill, before a 6 hour game  ? 

    Simple upgraded draft site  https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft

    Large size of WR class, allowed for a few trade backs. Took 3 trades, covering most needs, so took 2nd falling Wide outs 

    C
    64.NFL-team-logo
    T'Vondre SweatDT Texas
    trade-icon  trade

    85.NFL-team-logo

    Roman WilsonWR Michigan

    94.NFL-team-logo

    Blake FisherOT Notre Dame
    trade-icon trade

    132.NFL-team-logo

    MarShawn LloydRB USC
    trade-icon trade

    134.NFL-team-logo

    Ricky PearsallWR Florida

    154.NFL-team-logo

    Curtis JacobsLB Penn State

    207.NFL-team-logo

    Brevyn Spann-FordTE Minnesota

    240.NFL-team-logo

    Nelson CeaserEDGE Houston

    @gumby73 said:

    Only 6 more hours of game hype to kill, before a 6 hour game  ? 

    Simple upgraded draft site  https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft

    Large size of WR class, allowed for a few trade backs. Took 3 trades, covering most needs, so took 2nd falling Wide outs 

    C
    64.NFL-team-logo
    T'Vondre SweatDT Texas
    trade-icon  trade

    85.NFL-team-logo

    Roman WilsonWR Michigan

    94.NFL-team-logo

    Blake FisherOT Notre Dame
    trade-icon trade

    132.NFL-team-logo

    MarShawn LloydRB USC
    trade-icon trade

    134.NFL-team-logo

    Ricky PearsallWR Florida

    154.NFL-team-logo

    Curtis JacobsLB Penn State

    207.NFL-team-logo

    Brevyn Spann-FordTE Minnesota

    240.NFL-team-logo

    Nelson CeaserEDGE Houston

    Did a nice job with value AND hitting on needs gumby! 

  • Only 6 more hours of game hype to kill, before a 6 hour game  ? 

    Simple upgraded draft site  https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft

    Large size of WR class, allowed for a few trade backs. Took 3 trades, covering most needs, so took 2nd falling Wide outs 

    C
    64.NFL-team-logo
    T'Vondre SweatDT Texas
    trade-icon  trade

    85.NFL-team-logo

    Roman WilsonWR Michigan

    94.NFL-team-logo

    Blake FisherOT Notre Dame
    trade-icon trade

    132.NFL-team-logo

    MarShawn LloydRB USC
    trade-icon trade

    134.NFL-team-logo

    Ricky PearsallWR Florida

    154.NFL-team-logo

    Curtis JacobsLB Penn State

    207.NFL-team-logo

    Brevyn Spann-FordTE Minnesota

    240.NFL-team-logo

    Nelson CeaserEDGE Houston

    @gumby73 said:

    64.NFL-team-logo
    T'Vondre SweatDT Texas
    trade-icon  trade

    Top of my watch list for my mid round IDL's.

  • Draft Sims #2 https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/mock-draft-simulator  No trades.. site is obsessed with future year picks

    • 54
      Xavier Worthy
      WR | Texas
      A+
    • 85
      Roman Wilson
      WR | Michigan
      B+
    • 134
      Tommy Eichenberg
      LB | Ohio State
      A+
    • 154
      MarShawn Lloyd
      RB | USC
      A+
    • 204
      A.J. Barner
      TE | Michigan
      A
    • 207
      Gabe Hall
      DL | Baylor
      A+
    • 227
      Cedric Johnson
      EDGE | Mississippi
      A

    Edit-- A new draft sims I've never seen/played.. https://nfldraftfanatics.com/draft-result  ?

    New? maybe? see's a player board differing 

    Brown
    Browns

    R2:54

    Adisa Isaac

    Penn State

    EDGE

    GRADE

    A+

    R3:85

    JJa'Lynn Polk
    'Lynn Polk

    Washington

    WR

    GRADE

    A

    R5:134

    Tommy Eichenberg

    Ohio State

    LB

    GRADE

    A+

    R5:154

    Fabien Lovett

    Florida State

    DL

    GRADE

    A

    R6:204

     

    Ray Davis

    Kentucky

    RB

    GRADE

    A

    R6:207

    Ainias Smith
    AiniaSmit

    Texas A&M

    WR

    GRADE

    A

    R7:227

    Erick All

    Iowa

    TE

    GRADE

    A

  • There's a line of free agent LBs possibly leaving the Browns this offseason, and I'd love to add a bigger, physical presence next to JOK in the draft...

    That guy might very well be Junior Colson. I think he'd be a nice complement.

  • There's a line of free agent LBs possibly leaving the Browns this offseason, and I'd love to add a bigger, physical presence next to JOK in the draft...

    That guy might very well be Junior Colson. I think he'd be a nice complement.

    @dutch-oven said:

    There's a line of free agent LBs possibly leaving the Browns this offseason, and I'd love to add a bigger, physical presence next to JOK in the draft...

    That guy might very well be Junior Colson. I think he'd be a nice complement.

    Whoa!  Be careful.  Woody's gonna be moaning and groaning in here like he's on a permanent overdose of ecstasy. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    There's a line of free agent LBs possibly leaving the Browns this offseason, and I'd love to add a bigger, physical presence next to JOK in the draft...

    That guy might very well be Junior Colson. I think he'd be a nice complement.

    Whoa!  Be careful.  Woody's gonna be moaning and groaning in here like he's on a permanent overdose of ecstasy. 

    @flugel said:

    Whoa!  Be careful.  Woody's gonna be moaning and groaning in here like he's on a permanent overdose of ecstasy. 

    Now if the Browns could get Connor Stalions.... oh boy!

  • @flugel said:

    Whoa!  Be careful.  Woody's gonna be moaning and groaning in here like he's on a permanent overdose of ecstasy. 

    Now if the Browns could get Connor Stalions.... oh boy!

    @dutch-oven said:

    Now if the Browns could get Connor Stalions.... oh boy!

    Isn't that Woody or is that one of the other little Keebler Elves cheerleading in Annie's Arbor?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    There's a line of free agent LBs possibly leaving the Browns this offseason, and I'd love to add a bigger, physical presence next to JOK in the draft...

    That guy might very well be Junior Colson. I think he'd be a nice complement.

    Whoa!  Be careful.  Woody's gonna be moaning and groaning in here like he's on a permanent overdose of ecstasy. 

    @flugel said:

    Whoa!  Be careful.  Woody's gonna be moaning and groaning in here like he's on a permanent overdose of ecstasy. 

    I think Patrick Queen is available and a FA.. As much as I like AW... we need a younger body back there.. I also would like to see us get even faster on the perimeter if at all possible

  • @syd said:

    Calvin Ridley could be the missing piece to the Browns' passing offense

    hell yes, do it in a second

    You bet!  Or, did he bet?  Hold on a second...

  • Only 6 more hours of game hype to kill, before a 6 hour game  ? 

    Simple upgraded draft site  https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft

    Large size of WR class, allowed for a few trade backs. Took 3 trades, covering most needs, so took 2nd falling Wide outs 

    C
    64.NFL-team-logo
    T'Vondre SweatDT Texas
    trade-icon  trade

    85.NFL-team-logo

    Roman WilsonWR Michigan

    94.NFL-team-logo

    Blake FisherOT Notre Dame
    trade-icon trade

    132.NFL-team-logo

    MarShawn LloydRB USC
    trade-icon trade

    134.NFL-team-logo

    Ricky PearsallWR Florida

    154.NFL-team-logo

    Curtis JacobsLB Penn State

    207.NFL-team-logo

    Brevyn Spann-FordTE Minnesota

    240.NFL-team-logo

    Nelson CeaserEDGE Houston

    @gumby73 said:

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    T'Vondre SweatDT Texas

    I love the pick, but I think he's gone in the first ten picks of the 2nd round, if not the end of the first. The big man can play, plug up the middle, collapse the pocket... that would make for a stellar dl rotation. Goal line stands? he's rated 100% against the run. I'd move up in the second round if it would work out.

  • @gumby73 said:

    .NFL-team-logo

    T'Vondre SweatDT Texas

    I love the pick, but I think he's gone in the first ten picks of the 2nd round, if not the end of the first. The big man can play, plug up the middle, collapse the pocket... that would make for a stellar dl rotation. Goal line stands? he's rated 100% against the run. I'd move up in the second round if it would work out.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I love the pick, but I think he's gone in the first ten picks of the 2nd round, if not the end of the first. The big man can play, plug up the middle, collapse the pocket... that would make for a stellar dl rotation. Goal line stands? he's rated 100% against the run. I'd move up in the second round if it would work out.

    Have you told our audience you don't watch college football because you have better things to do with your time?  Judging by the response you got I'd say everyone is well aware of this.  I can't wait to start talking about our OL and what our plan is at RG when/if someone signs Wyatt Teller.  Once upon a time that kind of thing interested you. It still interests me; but what could I possibly know or understand about offensive line stuff...

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  • 4.21 Worthy is definitely before our 2nd rd pick now