2024 NFL Combines This Week
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top 7 in first LB group, just ran faster than Anthony Walker & Takitaki in their combine year.. Both were 6'1" 238lbs.. Walker 4.65 Taki 4.63
And Kevin was up there in the stands paying close attention to the group of LBs. Good sign. I think he was reading the menu Tom. Strong group of LBs and one of them is bound to be there when we get our first pick. Just not Cooper.
And Kevin was up there in the stands paying close attention to the group of LBs. Good sign. I think he was reading the menu Tom. Strong group of LBs and one of them is bound to be there when we get our first pick. Just not Cooper.
I'm not usually a betting man, but would be willing to put money on the Browns not drafting an LB in the 2nd. The FO have shown that they do not value that position. JOK was the exception to that rule, and they only pulled the trigger on him because he was seen as more of a 'hybrid.'
3rd round, maybe.
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And Kevin was up there in the stands paying close attention to the group of LBs. Good sign. I think he was reading the menu Tom. Strong group of LBs and one of them is bound to be there when we get our first pick. Just not Cooper.
I'm not usually a betting man, but would be willing to put money on the Browns not drafting an LB in the 2nd. The FO have shown that they do not value that position. JOK was the exception to that rule, and they only pulled the trigger on him because he was seen as more of a 'hybrid.'
3rd round, maybe.
I'm not usually a betting man, but would be willing to put money on the Browns not drafting an LB in the 2nd. The FO have shown that they do not value that position. JOK was the exception to that rule, and they only pulled the trigger on him because he was seen as more of a 'hybrid.'
3rd round, maybe.
But if the BPA happens to be one of these great top 5 LBs, all bets are off because it is definitely a position of need and proven very useful for teams who have drafted players like that early. Our biggest weakness on D IMO. We need two JOKs not just one.
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I'm not usually a betting man, but would be willing to put money on the Browns not drafting an LB in the 2nd. The FO have shown that they do not value that position. JOK was the exception to that rule, and they only pulled the trigger on him because he was seen as more of a 'hybrid.'
3rd round, maybe.
But if the BPA happens to be one of these great top 5 LBs, all bets are off because it is definitely a position of need and proven very useful for teams who have drafted players like that early. Our biggest weakness on D IMO. We need two JOKs not just one.
But if the BPA happens to be one of these great top 5 LBs, all bets are off because it is definitely a position of need and proven very useful for teams who have drafted players like that early. Our biggest weakness on D IMO. We need two JOKs not just one.
This position fits need and BPA. As much as I hate to say this, Safety feels like an under-estimated need. It's an important position. Delpit is a great athlete; BUT when it comes to durability - he's like Jack Conklin's mini-me. Not only that, when our DC has to find ways in game plans to minimize Delpit's decision making - it tells me his mental game overrides the athleticism. An ideal Safety is supposed to be your QB of the back end - which means the decision-making has to guide the physical gifts (ie; Ed Reed, Eric Turner, Kyle Hamilton and Pollyneedsahaircut - game changers).
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that ^^ and it's a good thing they don't keep LB stats on getting off/shed a block.. ?
Great point. Piggyback - When I played OG - the toughest LBers to block were the backside LBers with good instincts (inclusive of good eye discipline). I didn't think any LBers were tough to block on the play-side when I'm the one that got to sprint out of stance into the collision.
Mike Johnson in the 80s and Pepper Johnson in the 90s were fun to watch here as were OLBs Clay Matthews in the late 70s-80s and Carl Banks in the 90s. You never saw those guys all tied up with blockers. Combines are wonderful; but instincts are what get defenders to the football first. When that happens, notice how few of them get tied up with blockers. It's even important in pass defense where I saw a guy like Teddy Bruschi beating way faster foot speeds to the football in his hook zone (in big games).
All that to emphasize this - the fitness achievements are wonderful; but it's what is on FILM that will award a Nick Bolton to the team that deserves him. Bark Mingo had ideal fitness; but he had the football instincts of a raccoon crossing the highway at night time.
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that ^^ and it's a good thing they don't keep LB stats on getting off/shed a block.. ?
Great point. Piggyback - When I played OG - the toughest LBers to block were the backside LBers with good instincts (inclusive of good eye discipline). I didn't think any LBers were tough to block on the play-side when I'm the one that got to sprint out of stance into the collision.
Mike Johnson in the 80s and Pepper Johnson in the 90s were fun to watch here as were OLBs Clay Matthews in the late 70s-80s and Carl Banks in the 90s. You never saw those guys all tied up with blockers. Combines are wonderful; but instincts are what get defenders to the football first. When that happens, notice how few of them get tied up with blockers. It's even important in pass defense where I saw a guy like Teddy Bruschi beating way faster foot speeds to the football in his hook zone (in big games).
All that to emphasize this - the fitness achievements are wonderful; but it's what is on FILM that will award a Nick Bolton to the team that deserves him. Bark Mingo had ideal fitness; but he had the football instincts of a raccoon crossing the highway at night time.
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Ryan Watts, former Buckeye - had a 4.5. Tall, long armed, on-ball DB.
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I was reading what Caleb Williams said, and that guy is a, big time, “ME” first guy,
If I was the Bears, I wouldn’t go near that dude. I would keep Fields and trade down. That guy has BUST written all over him
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
I was reading what Caleb Williams said, and that guy is a, big time, “ME” first guy,
If I was the Bears, I wouldn’t go near that dude. I would keep Fields and trade down. That guy has BUST written all over him
That guy has BUST written all over him
I dunno man, I have watched him play alot, fucker looked damn good, But ya it is the same coach who had murry and mayfield and they were not worthy of a first round pick, so you may be on to something.
anyway any idea when the wr's are up ?
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I was reading what Caleb Williams said, and that guy is a, big time, “ME” first guy,
If I was the Bears, I wouldn’t go near that dude. I would keep Fields and trade down. That guy has BUST written all over him
I was reading what Caleb Williams said, and that guy is a, big time, “ME” first guy,
If I was the Bears, I wouldn’t go near that dude. I would keep Fields and trade down. That guy has BUST written all over him
That's what I've been saying too Brownies! If Chicago gives Fields to Pittsburgh thinking Caleb Williams is an upgrade - that poor fanbase is stuck on pause with hopelessness under the McCaskey family ownership.
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That guy has BUST written all over him
I dunno man, I have watched him play alot, fucker looked damn good, But ya it is the same coach who had murry and mayfield and they were not worthy of a first round pick, so you may be on to something.
anyway any idea when the wr's are up ?
anyway any idea when the wr's are up ?
Tomorrow at 1pm is the start for QBs, RBs and WRs. 8 hours worth.
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Tomorrow at 1pm is the start for QBs, RBs and WRs. 8 hours worth.
They better be twitchy and run fast. That DB class can fly.. now to find a TE that can chip/block TJ Watt into crying again ?
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#illini Walk on, to starter, to team captain. TE Tip Reiman with a heck of a Combine.
Every year, NFL Combine interviews almost always unveil something funny about a prospect. For many prospects, it’s the first time they’re given a big platform to speak in front of multiple national reporters and let NFL fans see who they really are behind the helmet.
This year, look no further than Illinois tight end Tip Reiman, who believes that "pigeons are not real".
Illinois Tight End Tip Reiman Says Pigeons Aren’t Real
“Birds aren’t real” is definitely a conspiracy theory that has gained popularity online in the last few years. While it’s unclear if Reiman actually believes that pigeons aren’t real or if he was just joking around with the media, this story has already taken the Combine by storm.
Illinois TE Tip Reiman a firm member of “Birds Aren’t Real” movement.“Have you ever seen a baby pigeon?”“How do we know that power lines aren’t pigeon recharging stations?”the hard hitting moments of the combineReiman played four years with the Fighting Illini and caught 41 passes for 420 yards and five touchdowns throughout his career. He’s a big, rugged blocking tight end who projects to be a Day 3 NFL Draft selection. He measured at 6-foot-4, 273 pounds, and proved in the Shrine Bowl that he can be a competent pass catcher for his size.
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That guy has BUST written all over him
I dunno man, I have watched him play alot, fucker looked damn good, But ya it is the same coach who had murry and mayfield and they were not worthy of a first round pick, so you may be on to something.
anyway any idea when the wr's are up ?
I dunno man, I have watched him play alot, fucker looked damn good, But ya it is the same coach who had murry and mayfield and they were not worthy of a first round pick, so you may be on to something.
anyway any idea when the wr's are up ?
To your point above, Williams actually reminds me a lot of Kyler Murray at the college level. At the NFL level, Kyler looks more like a Keebler (Elf) than a keeper.
If I had my career riding on the choice of keeping Justin Fields (which also means Marvin Harrison becomes a Chicago Bear) and starting all over with NFL potty training for Caleb Williams by offensive coaches that will be fired within 2 years - it's a pretty easy choice. I can't get the TD:INT ratio Fields had as a sophomore 41:3. Yes, he had great receivers - but Marvin Harrison is the 6'4" and faster version of his HOF father. You add that to WR DJ Moore and a big draft volume of OL to protect the QB - why go way out of the way to overthink it?
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https://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker/live-results/
The link above probably has the Combine results and goodies you want to see thus far...
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This WR won't be around the Browns 2nd round pick at #54
AD Mitchell is a freak ?
WR leader going into group two
Edit---Texas teammate WR Xavier Worthy 4.25 ? 40..... 2nd run, unofficially ties John Ross 4.22 combine 40 record !
Official edit-- 4.21 40 time official ! Texas WR Xavier Worthy becomes new combine 40 time record holder !
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Unfortunately WR Ainias Smith from A&M was discovered to have a stress fracture of his shin during the physicals and will not participate in the Combine. He will see a specialist concerning any treatment.
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Prior to 2024 NFL Combine rankings https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2024/consensus-big-board-2024
PLAYER COLLEGE COMB# UC ASG POS HGT WGT ARM HAND WING 40 (1) 40 (2) 40 (O) 10 (1) 10 (2) 10 (O) 225 VJ BJ 20S 3C Baker, Javon UCF WO01 WR 6012 202 32 1/4 9 5/8 78 1/4 4.54 4.55 4.54 1.58 N/A 1.58 37.0 10'1" Burton, Jermaine Alabama WO02 WR 6002 196 31 9 7/8 74 7/8 4.46 4.48 4.45 1.55 1.53 1.53 38.5 11'1" Coker, Jalen Holy Cross WO03 WR 6013 208 32 7/8 9 7/8 76 3/4 4.58 4.57 4.57 1.52 N/A 1.52 42.5 10'8" Coleman, Keon Florida State WO04 Y WR 6032 213 32 1/8 9 3/8 78 1/8 4.64 4.62 4.61 1.58 1.54 1.54 38.0 10'7" Corley, Malachi WO05 WR 5110* 215* DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Cowing, Jacob Arizona WO06 WR 5083 168 29 1/4 9 69 1/8 4.41 4.38 4.38 1.55 1.54 1.54 36.0 9'11" Flournoy, Ryan WO07 WR 6006 202 31 5/8 10 1/8 76 1/8 4.44 4.48 4.44 1.57 1.53 1.53 39.5 11'0" Franklin, Troy Oregon WO08 Y WR 6017 176 31 7/8 8 3/4 77 1/4 4.41 DNP 4.41 1.61 DNP 1.61 39.0 10'4" Gould, Anthony Oregon State WO09 WR 5083 174 29 5/8 8 7/8 69 7/8 4.40 4.41 DNP 1.49 DNP 1.49 39.5 10'9" Griffin, Lideatrick WO10 WR 5100 181 30 5/8 9 1/8 72 3/4 4.45 4.44 4.43 1.55 N/A 1.55 35.5 10'4' Harrison Jr., Marvin Ohio State WO11 Y WR 6032 209 31 7/8 9 1/2 77 1/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Jackson, Jha’Quan Tulane WO12 WR 5091 188 30 7/8 8 7/8 74 7/8 4.54 4.42 4.42 1.55 N/A 1.55 32.0 9'10" Johnson, Cornelius Michigan WO13 WR 6026 212 31 7/8 8 5/8 77 1/4 4.45 4.44 DNP 1.55 1.55 37.0 10'7" Legette, Xavier South Carolina WO14 WR 6010 212 31 7/8 8 5/8 77 1/4 4.47 4.39 4.39 1.55 1.54 1.54 40.0 10'6" McCaffrey, Luke Rice WO15 WR 6015 198 30 1/8 9 5/8 74 1/2 4.47 4.50 4.46 1.53 1.52 1.52 36.0 10'1" McConkey, Ladd Georgia WO16 Y WR 5115 186 30 1/4 8 5/8 72 4.43 4.40 4.39 1.53 1.52 1.52 36.0 10'4' McMillan, Jalen Washington WO17 WR 6010 197 32 1/8 10 77 3/8 4.49 4.48 4.47 1.55 1.53 1.53 37.0 10'7" Means, Bub Pittsburgh WO18 WR 6010 212 33 1/4 10 1/8 79 3/8 4.49 4.43 4.43 1.55 N/A 1.55 39.5 10'2' Mitchell, Adonai Texas WO19 Y WR 6022 205 32 3/8 9 77 5/8 4.35 DNP 4.34 1.52 DNP 1.52 39.0 11'4" Nabers, Malik LSU WO21 Y WR 6000* 200* DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Odunze, Rome Washington WO22 Y WR 6027 212 32 1/4 9 1/4 76 3/4 4.47 4.45 4.45 1.52 N/A 1.52 39.0 10'4" Pearsall, Ricky Florida WO23 WR 6010 189 30 7/8 9 1/4 73 3/8 4.41 4.42 4.41 1.59 1.57 1.57 42.0 10'9" Polk, Ja’Lynn Washington WO24 Y WR 6013 203 31 3/4 9 3/4 74 1/2 4.53 4.52 4.52 1.53 1.52 1.52 37.5 10'9" Rice, Brenden USC WO25 WR 6023 208 33 9 5/8 78 4.51 4.50 4.50 1.55 N/A 1.55 36.5 9'11" Robinson, Tayvion Kentucky WO26 WR 5104 191 31 9 1/4 75 1/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Georgia WO27 WR 6011 195 33 10 77 3/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP 35.0 9'11" Smith, Ainias Texas A&M WO28 WR 5093 190 29 8 1/2 70 1/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Thomas Jr., Brian LSU WO29 Y WR 6027 209 32 3/4 9 3/4 79 5/8 4.34 DNP 4.33 1.50 DNP 1.50 38.5 10'6" Thrash, Jamari Louisville WO30 Y WR 5116 188 31 8 5/8 74 1/2 4.46 4.48 4.46 1.54 N/A 1.54 34.0 10'0" Vele, Devaughn Utah WO31 Y WR 6040 203 33 1/2 9 3/4 79 1/8 4.54 4.48 4.47 1.53 N/A 1.53 36.0 10'6" Walker, Devontez North Carolina WO32 Y WR 6014 193 33 1/4 9 1/8 79 1/8 4.36 4.41 4.36 1.54 N/A 1.54 40.5 11'2" Washington, Malik Virginia WO33 WR 5084 191 30 3/8 9 1/4 72 3/8 4.47 4.52 4.47 1.54 1.53 1.53 42.5 10'6" Washington, Tahj USC WO34 WR 5096 174 29 1/8 8 3/8 70 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP 35.0 10'2" Weaver, Xavier Colorado WO35 WR 6002 169 31 1/8 8 7/8 73 1/4 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Whittington, Jordan Texas WO36 WR 6005 205 30 3/8 10 73 5/8 DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP DNP Williams, Isaiah Illinois WO37 Y WR 5092 182 30 1/8 9 1/8 72 3/4 4.64 4.64 4.63 1.59 N/A 1.59 38.0 10'3" Wilson, Johnny Florida State WO38 Y WR 6063 231 35 3/8 10 84 1/2 4.53 4.58 4.52 1.55 N/A 1.55 37.0 10'8" Wilson, Roman Michigan WO39 WR 5106 185 30 3/8 9 3/8 72 1/2 4.41 4.40 4.39 1.52 1.52 DNP DNP Worthy, Xavier Texas WO40 Y WR 5112 165 31 1/8 8 3/4 74 1/4 4.25 4.22 4.21 1.49 1.49 41.0 10'11" -
I know WR is a popular position for people to focus on for the Browns, but they really need to look at DLine too.
The Browns improvement on defense had a ton to do with their improved DLine, but it was a short-term fix, as so many DLinemen are free agents.
I'd also love for an inside linebacker.
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I know WR is a popular position for people to focus on for the Browns, but they really need to look at DLine too.
The Browns improvement on defense had a ton to do with their improved DLine, but it was a short-term fix, as so many DLinemen are free agents.
I'd also love for an inside linebacker.
I know WR is a popular position for people to focus on for the Browns, but they really need to look at DLine too.
The Browns improvement on defense had a ton to do with their improved DLine, but it was a short-term fix, as so many DLinemen are free agents.
I'd also love for an inside linebacker.
Agreed. I also think a great Safety can be a game changer. That said, we did drafted a DT (Ika) in round 3 and a DE (McGuire) in round 4 last year as well as a DE (Wright) in round 3 in 2022. A decent surprise last year was a 2020 DT (Elliott) we drafted in round 3 played some pretty good football in the starting rotation. I think Tomlinson returns but I haven't fact checked that one yet.
Offensively, there's a good chance we lose Pro Bowl Right Guard (Teller) to FA. Maybe Luke Wypler is up to the challenge of filling that spot or we draft someone or sign a FA. Meanwhile it appears Wills remains our less than enthusiastic LT. If Conklin could freakin stay healthy - we could move Dawand Jones to LT (although he also ended 2023 on IR as did Wills).
WRs are irresistible eye candy because it's a passing era and the drop-off from Cooper is big enough for temptation to add another. He's gonna = he hasn't yet. That said, this is a damn good draft for TEs. Sizing them up at the combines by appearance only - it sure looks like there's some dual purpose TEs (like Steve Heiden was here. I'll let my draft magazines tell me how many I got wrong as blockers later this month.
As much as I hate typing this - I think there's a really good chance the Browns will draft a RB to share the workload with Chubb. The big volume of FA RBs won't be cheaper than a rookie we can keep longer at cap friendlier prices. Investments for a healthier cap is a NEED. Staying in that thought, Wisconsin's Braelon Allen or Washington's Dillon Johnson are just 2 of an exciting bunch of RBs that could fall to some of our draft slots.
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