Jameis Winston is a Brown
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I'm thankful I wasn't drinking something when I read the above last line by tia, or I would have sprayed my laptop screen methinks...
I'm thankful I wasn't drinking something when I read the above last line by tia, or I would have sprayed my laptop screen methinks...
I assume you regularly spray your laptop with other fluids.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
I'm thankful I wasn't drinking something when I read the above last line by tia, or I would have sprayed my laptop screen methinks...
I assume you regularly spray your laptop with other fluids.
WSS
I assume you regularly spray your laptop with other fluids.
WSS
WWS ?
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You should be more concerned that Todd fucking Bowles found a way to succeed but Kevin fucking Stefanski couldn't.
Interesting thought process. Given that Stefanski and the Browns have/had...
- The same amount of playoff wins with Baker as the starting QB as Tampa.
- The same amount of playoff wins despite Tampa having, as Cal put it, much better receivers.
You should consider...
- Bakers numbers, in just about every metric save for INT %, are only marginally better in Tampa with a 17 game season then what they were in the Cleveland 2020 season. That's extrapolating that 2020 pace into a 17 game season and vice versa, the 2023 season into a 16 game grind. With it, Baker himself improved as a QB, by only the smallest of margins. That includes having one of the very best X, 50/50 outside receivers in the NFL the last 10 years.
- Metrics marginally better although Baker is now on a team that went from being 4th in run percentage, to a team that is 19th. He's being allowed to throw more... But the increase has been a huge "meh"
- Turnover placement that is, by charts, oddly similar to the turnover markers, coverages and timings on the field from every other stop Baker has had along the way. (downfield, at/inside the numbers. Outside numbers at 10-15 yards)
- Two additional coaching staffs who experienced the same struggles in their evaluations. Tossing out the high and low results to find our median... McVay opting to not keep Baker as a longer-term solution should be rather telling.
- Baker playing almost to a tee, the same way in Tampa that he did Cleveland. If you reduce his attempts or increase them, he has responded proportionally. Which means he flirts with the line of a top-15 QB in the right situation, and just outside the top 20 in a less favorable one.
You should be concerned ....
- Why you ever thought you'd be able to say something like that, to me, and not have it deconstructed to more accurately reflect what reality on the field really is.
You put your passion into music.
I put mine into football.
So again you don't like Cal I get it; just don't read his shit if you can't control your anger or block him or whatever you decide to do.
He's been blocked, I might uncover him on occasion in threads about the draft because he does contribute on off-chance, which is nice. Beyond that, I'm sure I'd have seen him chime in by now.
I know you don't like me so you just stay out of my way fine. Disappointing but fine.
WSS
Sorry to disappoint.
Interesting thought process. Given that Stefanski and the Browns have/had...
- The same amount of playoff wins with Baker as the starting QB as Tampa.
- The same amount of playoff wins despite Tampa having, as Cal put it, much better receivers.
You should consider...
- Bakers numbers, in just about every metric save for INT %, are only marginally better in Tampa with a 17 game season then what they were in the Cleveland 2020 season. That's extrapolating that 2020 pace into a 17 game season and vice versa, the 2023 season into a 16 game grind. With it, Baker himself improved as a QB, by only the smallest of margins. That includes having one of the very best X, 50/50 outside receivers in the NFL the last 10 years.
- Metrics marginally better although Baker is now on a team that went from being 4th in run percentage, to a team that is 19th. He's being allowed to throw more... But the increase has been a huge "meh"
- Turnover placement that is, by charts, oddly similar to the turnover markers, coverages and timings on the field from every other stop Baker has had along the way. (downfield, at/inside the numbers. Outside numbers at 10-15 yards)
- Two additional coaching staffs who experienced the same struggles in their evaluations. Tossing out the high and low results to find our median... McVay opting to not keep Baker as a longer-term solution should be rather telling.
- Baker playing almost to a tee, the same way in Tampa that he did Cleveland. If you reduce his attempts or increase them, he has responded proportionally. Which means he flirts with the line of a top-15 QB in the right situation, and just outside the top 20 in a less favorable one.
You should be concerned ....
- Why you ever thought you'd be able to say something like that, to me, and not have it deconstructed to more accurately reflect what reality on the field really is.
You put your passion into music.
I put mine into football.
He's been blocked, I might uncover him on occasion in threads about the draft because he does contribute on off-chance, which is nice. Beyond that, I'm sure I'd have seen him chime in by now.
Sorry to disappoint.
Just for the record I'm not really responding to you but the guys that have embarked on the Jihad against Mayfield because they don't like Cal. Stupid shit like equating a consensual pecadillo in a parking lot with 22 counts of sexual imposition. By the way I know you're brilliant with stats but I bet if I listed my 5 or 10 favorite players ever they wouldn't be the 5 or 10 highest in statistics. If they are for you buy yourself another couple dozen jerseys and change them everyday. So how come we don't do that? And how come we rooted for Balboa over Creed?
As far as my passion for music I love the stuff I love regardless of the stats. I can respect vocalists and or musicians that can do magic tricks but that's really not what moves me about the music. And if I have a hard time understanding how some guys like what they like over on Barbershop I don't try to tell them they're wrong.
But at the end of the day I don't think you are sorry to disappoint but I wish you were. You're a smart guy. Unlike some of the other people that are just assholes. ?
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
I'm thankful I wasn't drinking something when I read the above last line by tia, or I would have sprayed my laptop screen methinks...
I assume you regularly spray your laptop with other fluids.
WSS
I assume you regularly spray your laptop with other fluids.
WSS
I guess my lack of interest in responding to you is pretty much the same reason tia doesn't bother with you...
You are a moron.
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Interesting thought process. Given that Stefanski and the Browns have/had...
- The same amount of playoff wins with Baker as the starting QB as Tampa.
- The same amount of playoff wins despite Tampa having, as Cal put it, much better receivers.
You should consider...
- Bakers numbers, in just about every metric save for INT %, are only marginally better in Tampa with a 17 game season then what they were in the Cleveland 2020 season. That's extrapolating that 2020 pace into a 17 game season and vice versa, the 2023 season into a 16 game grind. With it, Baker himself improved as a QB, by only the smallest of margins. That includes having one of the very best X, 50/50 outside receivers in the NFL the last 10 years.
- Metrics marginally better although Baker is now on a team that went from being 4th in run percentage, to a team that is 19th. He's being allowed to throw more... But the increase has been a huge "meh"
- Turnover placement that is, by charts, oddly similar to the turnover markers, coverages and timings on the field from every other stop Baker has had along the way. (downfield, at/inside the numbers. Outside numbers at 10-15 yards)
- Two additional coaching staffs who experienced the same struggles in their evaluations. Tossing out the high and low results to find our median... McVay opting to not keep Baker as a longer-term solution should be rather telling.
- Baker playing almost to a tee, the same way in Tampa that he did Cleveland. If you reduce his attempts or increase them, he has responded proportionally. Which means he flirts with the line of a top-15 QB in the right situation, and just outside the top 20 in a less favorable one.
You should be concerned ....
- Why you ever thought you'd be able to say something like that, to me, and not have it deconstructed to more accurately reflect what reality on the field really is.
You put your passion into music.
I put mine into football.
He's been blocked, I might uncover him on occasion in threads about the draft because he does contribute on off-chance, which is nice. Beyond that, I'm sure I'd have seen him chime in by now.
Sorry to disappoint.
Just for the record I'm not really responding to you but the guys that have embarked on the Jihad against Mayfield because they don't like Cal. Stupid shit like equating a consensual pecadillo in a parking lot with 22 counts of sexual imposition. By the way I know you're brilliant with stats but I bet if I listed my 5 or 10 favorite players ever they wouldn't be the 5 or 10 highest in statistics. If they are for you buy yourself another couple dozen jerseys and change them everyday. So how come we don't do that? And how come we rooted for Balboa over Creed?
As far as my passion for music I love the stuff I love regardless of the stats. I can respect vocalists and or musicians that can do magic tricks but that's really not what moves me about the music. And if I have a hard time understanding how some guys like what they like over on Barbershop I don't try to tell them they're wrong.
But at the end of the day I don't think you are sorry to disappoint but I wish you were. You're a smart guy. Unlike some of the other people that are just assholes. ?
WSS
Just for the record I'm not really responding to you but the guys that have embarked on the Jihad against Mayfield because they don't like Cal.
WSSIt's not a Jihad against Mayfield. Some of us just don't think he is a top 10 take you to the Superbowl kind of QB and get tired of cal blowing nothing but smoke about him on a Browns Board while using his moral standards to discuss the guy (now guys) who are Browns QBs. Wouldn't bother me if he applied the same standards of conduct over on the poliboard as he now does to them.
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Just for the record I'm not really responding to you but the guys that have embarked on the Jihad against Mayfield because they don't like Cal.
WSSIt's not a Jihad against Mayfield. Some of us just don't think he is a top 10 take you to the Superbowl kind of QB and get tired of cal blowing nothing but smoke about him on a Browns Board while using his moral standards to discuss the guy (now guys) who are Browns QBs. Wouldn't bother me if he applied the same standards of conduct over on the poliboard as he now does to them.
It's not a Jihad against Mayfield. Some of us just don't think he is a top 10 take you to the Superbowl kind of QB and get tired of cal blowing nothing but smoke about him on a Browns Board while using his moral standards to discuss the guy (now guys) who are Browns QBs. Wouldn't bother me if he applied the same standards of conduct over on the poliboard as he now does to them.
The "you guys hate cal because of Baker" narrative is complete nonsense.
Cal is a bitch. He's always been a bitch. Stan couldn't stand him because he was always crying to him about so-and-so poster hurting his tender feelings. He's a bitch on nearly every topic he wastes everyone's time with typing his drivel. His moronic, juvenile posts that just wreak of someone with a massive inferiority complex goes far beyond Baker Mayfield posts, and easily pre-dates his arrival. But management is always here to come running to his aid, because apparently membership on that other forum has privileges.
That's the truth... hope it doesn't disappoint anyone.
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Just for the record I'm not really responding to you but the guys that have embarked on the Jihad against Mayfield because they don't like Cal.
WSSIt's not a Jihad against Mayfield. Some of us just don't think he is a top 10 take you to the Superbowl kind of QB and get tired of cal blowing nothing but smoke about him on a Browns Board while using his moral standards to discuss the guy (now guys) who are Browns QBs. Wouldn't bother me if he applied the same standards of conduct over on the poliboard as he now does to them.
It's not a Jihad against Mayfield. Some of us just don't think he is a top 10 take you to the Superbowl kind of QB and get tired of cal blowing nothing but smoke about him on a Browns Board while using his moral standards to discuss the guy (now guys) who are Browns QBs. Wouldn't bother me if he applied the same standards of conduct over on the poliboard as he now does to them.
Nope he probably isn't. I've never said he was a first ballot Hall of Famer, nothing of the sort. I like the guy and in the proper situation he can win you some games. I've also said if they thought they could upgrade the position I could bite the bullet and live with it. But they didn't. And they threw away tons of resources and tons of money and heaped piles of Shame on the team. And that the guy that those snakes threw him under the bus for has been a piece of shit for the team. It all started with the dirty dealings in Houston continued with him lying to the Texans and to the Browns and the Texans flying to us and his shitty play after the suspension which was brought about by his own behavior. And who knew that he was fragile? That's just icing on the cake. So what's your point Tex?
WSS
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It's not a Jihad against Mayfield. Some of us just don't think he is a top 10 take you to the Superbowl kind of QB and get tired of cal blowing nothing but smoke about him on a Browns Board while using his moral standards to discuss the guy (now guys) who are Browns QBs. Wouldn't bother me if he applied the same standards of conduct over on the poliboard as he now does to them.
The "you guys hate cal because of Baker" narrative is complete nonsense.
Cal is a bitch. He's always been a bitch. Stan couldn't stand him because he was always crying to him about so-and-so poster hurting his tender feelings. He's a bitch on nearly every topic he wastes everyone's time with typing his drivel. His moronic, juvenile posts that just wreak of someone with a massive inferiority complex goes far beyond Baker Mayfield posts, and easily pre-dates his arrival. But management is always here to come running to his aid, because apparently membership on that other forum has privileges.
That's the truth... hope it doesn't disappoint anyone.
The "you guys hate cal because of Baker" narrative is complete nonsense.
Cal is a bitch. He's always been a bitch. Stan couldn't stand him because he was always crying to him about so-and-so poster hurting his tender feelings. He's a bitch on nearly every topic he wastes everyone's time with typing his drivel. His moronic, juvenile posts that just wreak of someone with a massive inferiority complex goes far beyond Baker Mayfield posts, and easily pre-dates his arrival. But management is always here to come running to his aid, because apparently membership on that other forum has privileges.
That's the truth... hope it doesn't disappoint anyone.
I come running to nobody's aid. I post the shit because I feel the same way and I'm honest about it. So if I call you I wannabe cocksucker please realize that I do so with the utmost respect for the absolutely nothing you bring to the discussion.
I've been saying the exact same shit about DeShaun Watson, that I said to Tex, since they made that stupid trade. And so far I've been right. By the way he's not a top 10 quarterback either. And not another team of the league (no matter how QB deficient they were) was willing to pay that kind of money. So fuck off.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
The "you guys hate cal because of Baker" narrative is complete nonsense.
Cal is a bitch. He's always been a bitch. Stan couldn't stand him because he was always crying to him about so-and-so poster hurting his tender feelings. He's a bitch on nearly every topic he wastes everyone's time with typing his drivel. His moronic, juvenile posts that just wreak of someone with a massive inferiority complex goes far beyond Baker Mayfield posts, and easily pre-dates his arrival. But management is always here to come running to his aid, because apparently membership on that other forum has privileges.
That's the truth... hope it doesn't disappoint anyone.
I come running to nobody's aid. I post the shit because I feel the same way and I'm honest about it. So if I call you I wannabe cocksucker please realize that I do so with the utmost respect for the absolutely nothing you bring to the discussion.
I've been saying the exact same shit about DeShaun Watson, that I said to Tex, since they made that stupid trade. And so far I've been right. By the way he's not a top 10 quarterback either. And not another team of the league (no matter how QB deficient they were) was willing to pay that kind of money. So fuck off.
WSS
I come running to nobody's aid. I post the shit because I feel the same way and I'm honest about it. So if I call you I wannabe cocksucker please realize that I do so with the utmost respect for the absolutely nothing you bring to the discussion.
I've been saying the exact same shit about DeShaun Watson, that I said to Tex, since they made that stupid trade. And so far I've been right. By the way he's not a top 10 quarterback either. And not another team of the league (no matter how QB deficient they were) was willing to pay that kind of money. So fuck off.
WSS
For Cleveland Mayfield went 29-30 for games started in 4 years.
For Cleveland Watson is 8-4 for games started in 2 years.
I'd say the jury is still out for 2 more years before you can make a decision about whether Watson is the better (or worse) Browns QB of the two.
You and cal both decided he was worse from the getgo. Only time will tell whether you were both right or wrong.
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The "you guys hate cal because of Baker" narrative is complete nonsense.
Cal is a bitch. He's always been a bitch. Stan couldn't stand him because he was always crying to him about so-and-so poster hurting his tender feelings. He's a bitch on nearly every topic he wastes everyone's time with typing his drivel. His moronic, juvenile posts that just wreak of someone with a massive inferiority complex goes far beyond Baker Mayfield posts, and easily pre-dates his arrival. But management is always here to come running to his aid, because apparently membership on that other forum has privileges.
That's the truth... hope it doesn't disappoint anyone.
I come running to nobody's aid. I post the shit because I feel the same way and I'm honest about it. So if I call you I wannabe cocksucker please realize that I do so with the utmost respect for the absolutely nothing you bring to the discussion.
I've been saying the exact same shit about DeShaun Watson, that I said to Tex, since they made that stupid trade. And so far I've been right. By the way he's not a top 10 quarterback either. And not another team of the league (no matter how QB deficient they were) was willing to pay that kind of money. So fuck off.
WSS
I come running to nobody's aid.
Keep telling yourself that, you old ginger queen.
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The bigger head scratcher is our FO choosing Crablegs over Fields. Crablegs threw 33 TDs to 30 INTs (barely a TD:INT ratio of 1:1)the year before they problem solved that with Tom Brady. I live in the region that covers TB so I saw a lot of those ending up as Pick 6s even though the guy threw for over 5000 yards. INTs (especially the pick 6s) are a killer as we saw in our playoff game.
Fields is going to get a raising star at TE and a much improved running game Plus whatever WRs they they get in what looks like a deep WR draft. Chicago is so dumb - they'll probably give Pittsburgh DJ Moore for a bag of stale potato chips and a Walmart Cola.
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Joyous topic.. so back to the title
Jameis has not signed a Browns contract as of Sunday..
With Watson’s shoulder rehab only starting any kind of throwing soon and offseason activities starting in Berea in April, adding another quarterback makes sense. With Winston not signing yet, Cleveland only has Dorian Thompson-Robinson and Huntley at the quarterback position.
Tyler Huntley is only signing a veteran’s minimum contract meaning he is competing for a roster spot at best and is a training camp arm at worst:
So how long should AB have Cabot wait for busy Jameis Winston?
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Joyous topic.. so back to the title
Jameis has not signed a Browns contract as of Sunday..
With Watson’s shoulder rehab only starting any kind of throwing soon and offseason activities starting in Berea in April, adding another quarterback makes sense. With Winston not signing yet, Cleveland only has Dorian Thompson-Robinson and Huntley at the quarterback position.
Tyler Huntley is only signing a veteran’s minimum contract meaning he is competing for a roster spot at best and is a training camp arm at worst:
So how long should AB have Cabot wait for busy Jameis Winston?
Joyous topic.. so back to the title
Jameis has not signed a Browns contract as of Sunday..
With Watson’s shoulder rehab only starting any kind of throwing soon and offseason activities starting in Berea in April, adding another quarterback makes sense. With Winston not signing yet, Cleveland only has Dorian Thompson-Robinson and Huntley at the quarterback position.
Tyler Huntley is only signing a veteran’s minimum contract meaning he is competing for a roster spot at best and is a training camp arm at worst:
So how long should AB have Cabot wait for busy Jameis Winston?
Just out of curiosity, what do they know about Winston that the rest of the planet doesn't already know about him? Look what they could have had Fields for compared to this crap? Why go a million miles away to allow Pittsburgh to only give up a 6th round pick for a rising star at QB? Sorry, I gotta be honest here but this is Pittsburgh's FO beating our ass bad. Even worse, he's got a whole career ahead of him. Here's another Ohio State Buckeye the Browns SHOULD have been interested in.
Now the Browns are going to have to reach on Bo Nix or Joe Milton for 1 of their 5 picks.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
I'm honestly wondering if my respect for Berry is misplaced, or are the dirty haslams and/or depodesta just making him throw mega millions against the wall with that asinine trade.....because they are embarrassed at failing? And yes, they used Baker as a scapegoat.
Justin Fields would have been a great move, instead of the disaster maga massage qb has been so far. Russel Wilson - can't despise him even if he is a steeler, but injuries and age seem to have been taking their toll the last few times I watched him play.
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I'm honestly wondering if my respect for Berry is misplaced, or are the dirty haslams and/or depodesta just making him throw mega millions against the wall with that asinine trade.....because they are embarrassed at failing? And yes, they used Baker as a scapegoat.
Justin Fields would have been a great move, instead of the disaster maga massage qb has been so far. Russel Wilson - can't despise him even if he is a steeler, but injuries and age seem to have been taking their toll the last few times I watched him play.
instead of the disaster maga
Someone tell cal we aren't supposed to bring up Trump on the Browns forum.
Thanks in advance.
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Joyous topic.. so back to the title
Jameis has not signed a Browns contract as of Sunday..
With Watson’s shoulder rehab only starting any kind of throwing soon and offseason activities starting in Berea in April, adding another quarterback makes sense. With Winston not signing yet, Cleveland only has Dorian Thompson-Robinson and Huntley at the quarterback position.
Tyler Huntley is only signing a veteran’s minimum contract meaning he is competing for a roster spot at best and is a training camp arm at worst:
So how long should AB have Cabot wait for busy Jameis Winston?
Just out of curiosity, what do they know about Winston that the rest of the planet doesn't already know about him? Look what they could have had Fields for compared to this crap? Why go a million miles away to allow Pittsburgh to only give up a 6th round pick for a rising star at QB? Sorry, I gotta be honest here but this is Pittsburgh's FO beating our ass bad. Even worse, he's got a whole career ahead of him. Here's another Ohio State Buckeye the Browns SHOULD have been interested in.
Now the Browns are going to have to reach on Bo Nix or Joe Milton for 1 of their 5 picks.
Just out of curiosity, what do they know about Winston that the rest of the planet doesn't already know about him? Look what they could have had Fields for compared to this crap? Why go a million miles away to allow Pittsburgh to only give up a 6th round pick for a rising star at QB? Sorry, I gotta be honest here but this is Pittsburgh's FO beating our ass bad. Even worse, he's got a whole career ahead of him. Here's another Ohio State Buckeye the Browns SHOULD have been interested in.
Now the Browns are going to have to reach on Bo Nix or Joe Milton for 1 of their 5 picks.
Come on Flugs, this isn't that complicated.
The Browns front office isn't bringing in a backup that is going to automatically be more popular than Watson. No one really cares about Winston, or will be dying to see him play.
But Flacco? We saw how popular that run was with Browns fans and him.
Justin Fields? The ex-Ohio State QB in a region that is incredibly pro-Buckeye?
Winston was brought in because Watson likes him AND he's not much of a threat of the fan base clamoring for him.
And I'm confused, why exactly are we forced to use a draft pick on a QB now?
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Joyous topic.. so back to the title
Jameis has not signed a Browns contract as of Sunday..
With Watson’s shoulder rehab only starting any kind of throwing soon and offseason activities starting in Berea in April, adding another quarterback makes sense. With Winston not signing yet, Cleveland only has Dorian Thompson-Robinson and Huntley at the quarterback position.
Tyler Huntley is only signing a veteran’s minimum contract meaning he is competing for a roster spot at best and is a training camp arm at worst:
So how long should AB have Cabot wait for busy Jameis Winston?
Just out of curiosity, what do they know about Winston that the rest of the planet doesn't already know about him? Look what they could have had Fields for compared to this crap? Why go a million miles away to allow Pittsburgh to only give up a 6th round pick for a rising star at QB? Sorry, I gotta be honest here but this is Pittsburgh's FO beating our ass bad. Even worse, he's got a whole career ahead of him. Here's another Ohio State Buckeye the Browns SHOULD have been interested in.
Now the Browns are going to have to reach on Bo Nix or Joe Milton for 1 of their 5 picks.
Just out of curiosity, what do they know about Winston that the rest of the planet doesn't already know about him?
and we don't know what this FO should know..
a) Winston might have arranged arriving this weekend to sign his deal on Monday? He' got a agent for info
b.) Ya won't get a disagreement from this poster, or several teams for that matter. Many GM's missed the trade value steal for Justin Fields to come in as a backup QB .. Makes matters worse.. It was Fucking Pittsburgh ?
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Just out of curiosity, what do they know about Winston that the rest of the planet doesn't already know about him? Look what they could have had Fields for compared to this crap? Why go a million miles away to allow Pittsburgh to only give up a 6th round pick for a rising star at QB? Sorry, I gotta be honest here but this is Pittsburgh's FO beating our ass bad. Even worse, he's got a whole career ahead of him. Here's another Ohio State Buckeye the Browns SHOULD have been interested in.
Now the Browns are going to have to reach on Bo Nix or Joe Milton for 1 of their 5 picks.
Come on Flugs, this isn't that complicated.
The Browns front office isn't bringing in a backup that is going to automatically be more popular than Watson. No one really cares about Winston, or will be dying to see him play.
But Flacco? We saw how popular that run was with Browns fans and him.
Justin Fields? The ex-Ohio State QB in a region that is incredibly pro-Buckeye?
Winston was brought in because Watson likes him AND he's not much of a threat of the fan base clamoring for him.
And I'm confused, why exactly are we forced to use a draft pick on a QB now?
The Browns front office isn't bringing in a backup that is going to automatically be more popular than Watson.
Correct. It wouldn't make sense to cause problems in that way.
Basically, if you lose your starting QB you're screwed anyway. The emergency Flacco ride was a good one. But that season is now over. We're committed to Watson for a couple of reasons. 1) We've invested as king's ransom in him (see this year's 1st round Browns pick). Secondly, he hasn't proven that he's not good enough to be our starting QB...yet. He hasn't played enough. He's been suspended or hurt. To ME he's proven that he's not too smart because he takes on tacklers instead of sliding. But apparently that doesn't affect the organization's opinion of him.
As much as the organization has to allow their big gamble/deal on their star QB to play itself out.....they've gotta be expecting this to be the year that their star QB proves his value in a positive way. Because if not, the draft picks part of the deal will be over...and we'll be going into the next draft WITH a 1st round pick.
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The Browns front office isn't bringing in a backup that is going to automatically be more popular than Watson.
Correct. It wouldn't make sense to cause problems in that way.
Basically, if you lose your starting QB you're screwed anyway. The emergency Flacco ride was a good one. But that season is now over. We're committed to Watson for a couple of reasons. 1) We've invested as king's ransom in him (see this year's 1st round Browns pick). Secondly, he hasn't proven that he's not good enough to be our starting QB...yet. He hasn't played enough. He's been suspended or hurt. To ME he's proven that he's not too smart because he takes on tacklers instead of sliding. But apparently that doesn't affect the organization's opinion of him.
As much as the organization has to allow their big gamble/deal on their star QB to play itself out.....they've gotta be expecting this to be the year that their star QB proves his value in a positive way. Because if not, the draft picks part of the deal will be over...and we'll be going into the next draft WITH a 1st round pick.
Correct. It wouldn't make sense to cause problems in that way.
Basically, if you lose your starting QB you're screwed anyway. The emergency Flacco ride was a good one. But that season is now over. We're committed to Watson for a couple of reasons. 1) We've invested as king's ransom in him (see this year's 1st round Browns pick). Secondly, he hasn't proven that he's not good enough to be our starting QB...yet. He hasn't played enough. He's been suspended or hurt. To ME he's proven that he's not too smart because he takes on tacklers instead of sliding. But apparently that doesn't affect the organization's opinion of him.
As much as the organization has to allow their big gamble/deal on their star QB to play itself out.....they've gotta be expecting this to be the year that their star QB proves his value in a positive way. Because if not, the draft picks part of the deal will be over...and we'll be going into the next draft WITH a 1st round pick.
Let me explain and if you still disagree - no worries. First, we read Jameis is still unsigned. That's a concern.
Second, you have to understand the price of Justin Fields was only a 6th round pick. That's cheaper than the asking price of Crablegs. If memory serves me right, both Steve Young and Doug Williams were disappointments on their 1st NFL Team in Tampa. They won Super Bowls by huge margins on their 2nd NFL teams that put more talent around them. Pittsburgh was a playoff team last year so the step up from Chicago to Pittsburgh seems like a very similar scenario to what Steve Young and Doug Williams encountered.
Our hated rival signed Fields to be a backup for their new starting QB (BOTH guys) making a lot less money apiece than Watson and Winston (apiece); so why would that kind asking price from Fields cause any problems in Cleveland if they pursued it? I'd be very surprised if anyone that's seen latest version of Winston thinks he looks better than the latest version of Fields.
Just know, Watson is 1 blind side shot/hit where he gets planted on the glenoid away from game over/career over with Wills as the guy we're counting on to prevent such an occurrence. If that happens - all of the defensive players added mean as much as what the Jets defensive players meant to their chances of winning last year. We're FUBAR. The last time I remember a QB as overlooked as Fields was this off-season - it was Drew Brees coming of surgical repair/off season rehab of his throwing shoulder. Dr Andrews told inquiring teams he expected Drew's throwing shoulder to be stronger than it was pre-injury. New Orleans had the guts and got the glory.
I'm not always right - we all know this. That said, Fields at those asking prices was the wrong guy to roster snob for Crablegs.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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