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  • That was a rant that seems to have been bottled up for a long time, and this has been how it goes for a long time.  I can still hear my Dad complaining because his season tickets went up to $14 a seat. Maybe for the 1965 season.  I have slept since then.

    I know all about the price of games.  My 2 seats now cost me $4500 a year. I suspect the same people being priced out of going to games are more or less like the people priced out of going to game when tickets went up to $14 a seat.

    This just goes in to the "it is what it is" category.  The NFL has never been in some magical category.  It has always been about money.  At least since players began to play for money and owners began to sell tickets.

    @ballpeen said:

    That was a rant that seems to have been bottled up for a long time, and this has been how it goes for a long time.  I can still hear my Dad complaining because his season tickets went up to $14 a seat.

    I know all about the price of games.  My 2 seats now cost me $4500 a year.

    This just goes in to the "it is what it is" category.  The NFL has never been in some magical category.  It has always been about money.  At least since players began to play for money and owners began to sell tickets.

    Yep.

    My seats went up $300 ($150 per ticket x2). $2304...of course the $4 is for "processing." I don't know how much longer I'm going to hang onto them. Thing that irritates me is my first invoice, there was no mention of a price hike....then invoice #2 a week or so ago, BAM, we need $300 more. Not cool at all. 

    Then the NFL took our free NFL games away from us on the NFL app in 2023, that was a bad move. Of course, we could have it for $59.95 yikes, if we are willing to pay. 

    It is upsetting, but the NFL knows people are going to pay. What a marketing machine the NFL is.

  • LOl...I rounded my ticket price..I didn't factor the service fee..lol

    I agree on the announcement of the ticket increase.  Seems that should have been made before the initial payment was collected. That said, I expected prices to go up so it wasn't a shock.  I hear you, I have already gone past the threshold on price I made when I first got these things 18 years ago...maybe 19.  Anyway, here I am, still buying.

    It is a marketing machine.  Heck, the Browns have a waiting list they cap at 4000 people.  It's full and people pay to get on the list.  People can't even get on the list until slots open up.  The Browns don't care all that much if people drop their seats.  They have thousands waiting in the wings who want seats.

    Maybe I shouldn't say don't care.  More in line with not being concerned with filling the seats.

  • That was a rant that seems to have been bottled up for a long time, and this has been how it goes for a long time.  I can still hear my Dad complaining because his season tickets went up to $14 a seat. Maybe for the 1965 season.  I have slept since then.

    I know all about the price of games.  My 2 seats now cost me $4500 a year. I suspect the same people being priced out of going to games are more or less like the people priced out of going to game when tickets went up to $14 a seat.

    This just goes in to the "it is what it is" category.  The NFL has never been in some magical category.  It has always been about money.  At least since players began to play for money and owners began to sell tickets.

    @ballpeen said:

    That was a rant that seems to have been bottled up for a long time, and this has been how it goes for a long time.

    Yes, it has been bottled up. 

     While professional football has to generate a profit, again I ask, how much and how far has it removed itself from the common fan?    This is why they maintain the emotional appeal - listen to the draft when fans are brought on to announce picks "My Cleveland Browns select....".  

     It isn't just season ticket costs. Look at all the nickel and dime expenses.  I had to get several apps this year, pay the month fee, just to watch a couple games. Amazon, peacock, CBS, etc etc.     It's the principle of it at this point.  People being bilked for every last dollar.  Stop giving, and the NFL, like any other business, will respond accordingly.  I'm splitting a YouTube TV account with a couple friends this year, getting a digital antenna and That's it.   I'll pirate everything else.    Well, there's the yearly fee for the coaches film, but it falls under fair use so I can't complain. 

    @ballpeen said:

      I can still hear my Dad complaining because his season tickets went up to $14 a seat. Maybe for the 1965 season.  I have slept since then.

     While the middle class was much stronger than today.

    @ballpeen said:

    I know all about the price of games.  My 2 seats now cost me $4500 a year. I suspect the same people being priced out of going to games are more or less like the people priced out of going to game when tickets went up to $14 a seat.

    The underlying point, is the fact that a larger and larger percentage of people are being priced out.  It will come a time when few will be able to afford, or in my case, willing to spend the money. 

    But you're right, it is what it is. 

  • While professional football has to generate a profit, again I ask, how much and how far has it removed itself from the common fan?

    What is a common fan?

    I think that definition changes with the times.  The big problem football has in keeping prices in line with what i think you mean by the common fan/man is the limited number of games they play.  They get 8 home games compared to baseball's  81 games.  

    They can have the $15-$20 seats.  They can run a dollar hotdog day.  Football can't do that.  As for how much money should they make, I am a capitalist. They should be able to make as much as they can just like players should make as much as they can.  If people buy the product, don't worry about the folks who can't, and I don't say that in caviler way.

  • @ballpeen said:

    That was a rant that seems to have been bottled up for a long time, and this has been how it goes for a long time.  I can still hear my Dad complaining because his season tickets went up to $14 a seat.

    I know all about the price of games.  My 2 seats now cost me $4500 a year.

    This just goes in to the "it is what it is" category.  The NFL has never been in some magical category.  It has always been about money.  At least since players began to play for money and owners began to sell tickets.

    Yep.

    My seats went up $300 ($150 per ticket x2). $2304...of course the $4 is for "processing." I don't know how much longer I'm going to hang onto them. Thing that irritates me is my first invoice, there was no mention of a price hike....then invoice #2 a week or so ago, BAM, we need $300 more. Not cool at all. 

    Then the NFL took our free NFL games away from us on the NFL app in 2023, that was a bad move. Of course, we could have it for $59.95 yikes, if we are willing to pay. 

    It is upsetting, but the NFL knows people are going to pay. What a marketing machine the NFL is.

    @bob806 said:

    Yep.

    My seats went up $300 ($150 per ticket x2). $2304...of course the $4 is for "processing." I don't know how much longer I'm going to hang onto them. Thing that irritates me is my first invoice, there was no mention of a price hike....then invoice #2 a week or so ago, BAM, we need $300 more. Not cool at all. 

    Then the NFL took our free NFL games away from us on the NFL app in 2023, that was a bad move. Of course, we could have it for $59.95 yikes, if we are willing to pay. 

    It is upsetting, but the NFL knows people are going to pay. What a marketing machine the NFL is.

    Bob, I used to get excited to come visit Stan (Atenears) and go watch some training camp sessions with him every year.  They've made that almost impossible today for out of state fans that don't already have season tix.  It used to be easy to just show up and get a good spot to view the practice and/or walk around to one.   That feels like a lifetime ago...

  • @bob806 said:

    Yep.

    My seats went up $300 ($150 per ticket x2). $2304...of course the $4 is for "processing." I don't know how much longer I'm going to hang onto them. Thing that irritates me is my first invoice, there was no mention of a price hike....then invoice #2 a week or so ago, BAM, we need $300 more. Not cool at all. 

    Then the NFL took our free NFL games away from us on the NFL app in 2023, that was a bad move. Of course, we could have it for $59.95 yikes, if we are willing to pay. 

    It is upsetting, but the NFL knows people are going to pay. What a marketing machine the NFL is.

    Bob, I used to get excited to come visit Stan (Atenears) and go watch some training camp sessions with him every year.  They've made that almost impossible today for out of state fans that don't already have season tix.  It used to be easy to just show up and get a good spot to view the practice and/or walk around to one.   That feels like a lifetime ago...

    @flugel said:

    Bob, I used to get excited to come visit Stan (Atenears) and go watch some training camp sessions with him every year.  They've made that almost impossible today for out of state fans that don't already have season tix.  It used to be easy to just show up and get a good spot to view the practice and/or walk around to one.   That feels like a lifetime ago...

    Agree. Its about a 2 mile walk from my house to the facility, but I'm not "pre-registering" for a practice ( in an Allen Iverson voice lol).

    I know times change, but I'm struggling with all these rules/regulations. 

    Go Browns. Win all 8 home games 

  • ...to FA.  The Browns resigned Proche.  I assume that marks the end of Jakeem Grant.

    And they extended Jeudy's contract to 3 years.  

  • I like Foreman even if he was a UT player. Good signing IMO.

  • I have this little feeling in the back of my head that the Browns might trade Elijah Moore. 

  • @gumby73 said:

    FA Panthers/Bears RB D'Onte Foreman to sign with Browns

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     Now THIS is an underrated signing I also like, tossed in with bringing in a better body suited to playing more upback.  Liked Foreman at Texas, dude doesn't have much mileage, he's a bigger RB and he had almost 1k behind a very questionable Carolina Oline a couple years ago.   I could see him as the #2 before training camp is over.

  • @syd said:

    makes sense, well off the the irish pub for some beers and whatever kinda food they have

    Get yourself some corned beef and cabbage!

    @dutch-oven said:

    Get yourself some corned beef and cabbage!

    we had fish and chips. they were awesome and lots o beer's

  • sydS syd

    @dutch-oven said:

    Get yourself some corned beef and cabbage!

    we had fish and chips. they were awesome and lots o beer's

    @syd said:

    we had fish and chips. they were awesome and lots o beer's

    You had something English on St. Pat's? ?

    That's one helluva party foul! 

  • @syd said:

    we had fish and chips. they were awesome and lots o beer's

    You had something English on St. Pat's? ?

    That's one helluva party foul! 

    @dutch-oven said:

    You had something English on St. Pat's? ?

    That's one helluva party foul! 

    hahahahah, We made up for it later with corned beef and cabbage.

  • And in other moronic front office news...

    Jeudy gets a 3 yr 41 million guaranteed extension....(58 million total)

    Why?

    Based on what?

    Will we ever learn??

  • And in other moronic front office news...

    Jeudy gets a 3 yr 41 million guaranteed extension....(58 million total)

    Why?

    Based on what?

    Will we ever learn??

    @kvoethe said:

    And in other moronic front office news...

    Jeudy gets a 3 yr 41 million guaranteed extension....(58 million total)

    Why?

    Based on what?

    Will we ever learn??

    were one of the same that  said Njoku's deal was bad ?

  • Chubb,  Ford,  Strong,  Hines,  Foreman.   ( 5 guys.  Someone is in a rather 'weak' position )

  • I have this little feeling in the back of my head that the Browns might trade Elijah Moore. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I have this little feeling in the back of my head that the Browns might trade Elijah Moore. 

    I could see Michigan trying to sneak him into their lineup and re-naming him Dusty Nuckinfuts.

  • Chubb,  Ford,  Strong,  Hines,  Foreman.   ( 5 guys.  Someone is in a rather 'weak' position )

    @orion said:

    Chubb,  Ford,  Strong,  Hines,  Foreman.   ( 5 guys.  Someone is in a rather 'weak' position )

    For sure. Hines will probably be mostly special teams and maybe some passing down work. If Chubb starts the season on IR, it will be mostly Ford/Foreman with Strong getting minimal touches. Then when Chubb comes back, Strong goes to the practice squad. 

  • I love the Foreman signing, whether Chubb misses time or they want to ease Chubb back, Foreman is the the north/south between the tackles runner we need who can handle a workload. A big dude at 235lbs.