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  • And in other moronic front office news...

    Jeudy gets a 3 yr 41 million guaranteed extension....(58 million total)

    Why?

    Based on what?

    Will we ever learn??

    @kvoethe said:

    And in other moronic front office news...

    Jeudy gets a 3 yr 41 million guaranteed extension....(58 million total)

    Why?

    Based on what?

    Will we ever learn??

    were one of the same that  said Njoku's deal was bad ?

  • Chubb,  Ford,  Strong,  Hines,  Foreman.   ( 5 guys.  Someone is in a rather 'weak' position )

  • I have this little feeling in the back of my head that the Browns might trade Elijah Moore. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I have this little feeling in the back of my head that the Browns might trade Elijah Moore. 

    I could see Michigan trying to sneak him into their lineup and re-naming him Dusty Nuckinfuts.

  • Chubb,  Ford,  Strong,  Hines,  Foreman.   ( 5 guys.  Someone is in a rather 'weak' position )

    @orion said:

    Chubb,  Ford,  Strong,  Hines,  Foreman.   ( 5 guys.  Someone is in a rather 'weak' position )

    For sure. Hines will probably be mostly special teams and maybe some passing down work. If Chubb starts the season on IR, it will be mostly Ford/Foreman with Strong getting minimal touches. Then when Chubb comes back, Strong goes to the practice squad. 

  • I love the Foreman signing, whether Chubb misses time or they want to ease Chubb back, Foreman is the the north/south between the tackles runner we need who can handle a workload. A big dude at 235lbs. 

  • I love the Foreman signing, whether Chubb misses time or they want to ease Chubb back, Foreman is the the north/south between the tackles runner we need who can handle a workload. A big dude at 235lbs. 

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    I love the Foreman signing, whether Chubb misses time or they want to ease Chubb back, Foreman is the the north/south between the tackles runner we need who can handle a workload. A big dude at 235lbs. 

    Seems like a good replacement for Chubb in short yardage/goalline situations. 

  • @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    I love the Foreman signing, whether Chubb misses time or they want to ease Chubb back, Foreman is the the north/south between the tackles runner we need who can handle a workload. A big dude at 235lbs. 

    Seems like a good replacement for Chubb in short yardage/goalline situations. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Seems like a good replacement for Chubb in short yardage/goalline situations. 

    Was that George Foreman II, George Foreman III, George Foreman IV, George Foreman V or D'Onta Foreman that played with the Bears last year?

    All kidding aside, he doesn't have the wear and tear that took a couple steps away from Kareem Hunt IMO.

  • @gumby73 said:

    FA Panthers/Bears RB D'Onte Foreman to sign with Browns

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     Now THIS is an underrated signing I also like, tossed in with bringing in a better body suited to playing more upback.  Liked Foreman at Texas, dude doesn't have much mileage, he's a bigger RB and he had almost 1k behind a very questionable Carolina Oline a couple years ago.   I could see him as the #2 before training camp is over.

    @tiamat63 said:

     Now THIS is an underrated signing I also like, tossed in with bringing in a better body suited to playing more upback.  Liked Foreman at Texas, dude doesn't have much mileage, he's a bigger RB and he had almost 1k behind a very questionable Carolina Oline a couple years ago.   I could see him as the #2 before training camp is over.

    Kinda stung posting the Foreman to sign. Toledo grad, w/Hunt signed Toledo jersey. Proud of what Hunt proved w/his time here as a Brown. Played for 4M last season. Interest to what Foreman signs for here.

    The wife is the household Panthers fan. Hated the McCaffery trade. But Yes, D.Foreman almost got 1k after that trade as a Panther.  That Carolina OL, couldn't pass block my wife 😁, but better in run blocking inside tackles. 

    Small world of NFL drafting..

    In the 2017 NFL draft. K.Hunt went 3.86. The next RB off the board, came 3 picks later. Texas RB D'Onte Foreman 3.89. Hunt's truck load played just under 220lbs. (say's 216) .. Foreman does seem to be the more durable healthy RB playing at 235lbs. 

    Getting a durable D. Foreman this late in the FA pool?  Feels like a solid pickup for Andrew Berry/Browns       

  • @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    I love the Foreman signing, whether Chubb misses time or they want to ease Chubb back, Foreman is the the north/south between the tackles runner we need who can handle a workload. A big dude at 235lbs. 

    Seems like a good replacement for Chubb in short yardage/goalline situations. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Seems like a good replacement for Chubb in short yardage/goalline situations. 

     I think you're setting your sights a bit low. Just watching snaps from Carolina and Chicago last year, DFs screen game work looks so similar to how Chubb catches the ball from the backfield. 

     Dude would be great for 10-12 carries a game beyond just obviously down to move chains.

  • @tiamat63 said:

     Now THIS is an underrated signing I also like, tossed in with bringing in a better body suited to playing more upback.  Liked Foreman at Texas, dude doesn't have much mileage, he's a bigger RB and he had almost 1k behind a very questionable Carolina Oline a couple years ago.   I could see him as the #2 before training camp is over.

    Kinda stung posting the Foreman to sign. Toledo grad, w/Hunt signed Toledo jersey. Proud of what Hunt proved w/his time here as a Brown. Played for 4M last season. Interest to what Foreman signs for here.

    The wife is the household Panthers fan. Hated the McCaffery trade. But Yes, D.Foreman almost got 1k after that trade as a Panther.  That Carolina OL, couldn't pass block my wife 😁, but better in run blocking inside tackles. 

    Small world of NFL drafting..

    In the 2017 NFL draft. K.Hunt went 3.86. The next RB off the board, came 3 picks later. Texas RB D'Onte Foreman 3.89. Hunt's truck load played just under 220lbs. (say's 216) .. Foreman does seem to be the more durable healthy RB playing at 235lbs. 

    Getting a durable D. Foreman this late in the FA pool?  Feels like a solid pickup for Andrew Berry/Browns       

    @gumby73 said:

    Kinda stung posting the Foreman to sign. Toledo grad, w/Hunt signed Toledo jersey. Proud of what Hunt proved w/his time here as a Brown. Played for 4M last season. Interest to what Foreman signs for here.

    The wife is the household Panthers fan. Hated the McCaffery trade. But Yes, D.Foreman almost got 1k after that trade as a Panther.  That Carolina OL, couldn't pass block my wife 😁, but better in run blocking inside tackles. 

    Small world of NFL drafting..

    In the 2017 NFL draft. K.Hunt went 3.86. The next RB off the board, came 3 picks later. Texas RB D'Onte Foreman 3.89. Hunt's truck load played just under 220lbs. (say's 216) .. Foreman does seem to be the a more durable healthy RB playing at 235lbs. 

    Getting a durable D. Foreman this late in the FA pool?  Feels like a solid pickup for Andrew Berry/Browns       

    Foreman has made any mid to late round RB addition likely a complete after thought. All the more reason I believe this draft will be heavy in the trenches. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Seems like a good replacement for Chubb in short yardage/goalline situations. 

    Was that George Foreman II, George Foreman III, George Foreman IV, George Foreman V or D'Onta Foreman that played with the Bears last year?

    All kidding aside, he doesn't have the wear and tear that took a couple steps away from Kareem Hunt IMO.

    @flugel said:

    Was that George Foreman II, George Foreman III, George Foreman IV, George Foreman V or D'Onta Foreman that played with the Bears last year?

    All kidding aside, he doesn't have the wear and tear that took a couple steps away from Kareem Hunt IMO.

    I think Kareem's career is on the verge of being over. It took a Chubb injury to get him on a team last year, and it looks like the safety net that is the Browns have moved on this offseason for sure. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Seems like a good replacement for Chubb in short yardage/goalline situations. 

     I think you're setting your sights a bit low. Just watching snaps from Carolina and Chicago last year, DFs screen game work looks so similar to how Chubb catches the ball from the backfield. 

     Dude would be great for 10-12 carries a game beyond just obviously down to move chains.

    @tiamat63 said:

     I think you're setting your sights a bit low. Just watching snaps from Carolina and Chicago last year, DFs screen game work looks so similar to how Chubb catches the ball from the backfield. 

     Dude would be great for 10-12 carries a game beyond just obviously down to move chains.

    I didn't mean that was all the Browns brought him in, but even with Chubb on the team Hunt generally was that guy, and Kareem's time in Cleveland is probably done for good. I could definitely see him splitting time with Ford.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    The world at large has been shifting to this mindset, the last decade or so it has really picked up steam.  Not just in football, but just about every aspect of life. 

     I can't stand it.    Especially when it's something I've loved and been deeply devoted to pretty much my entire life. 

    Just speaking from a football standpoint, the league has expanded to the point where there aren't enough quality players to fill all the job openings.  It started with QB's maybe 20 years ago.  There simply aren't enough quality QB's to fill the 32 starting quality openings.  Half the league is looking for starters.  When they finally get them, the half that has them now won't have them.

    @ballpeen said:

    Just speaking from a football standpoint, the league has expanded to the point where there aren't enough quality players to fill all the job openings.

    @tiamat63 said:

     At any given era, there are only a small handful of QBs able to consistently lead their teams to post season wins as the offensive focal point.  

    Good back and forth in the 4-5 exchanges here. This is what analytics brings us. It's all about timing the pendulum and, now, with the fuzzy math GMs can create with contracts, it's going to pad the blow of failure even more.

    Missing on a transaction used to seem like such a nail in the coffin now. Now, teams shrug it off, willingly eat the money and jump in line to throw the dice again.

    Those analytics have moved to the league offices as well. The NFL knows it has pretty well tapped out it's true, traditional customer base.

    It needed new horizons and willingly hitches itself to the wagons of Taylor Swift and sports gambling. GMs want/need each because the money will just keep getting bigger and bigger.

    Maybe that makes the math less fuzzy, my guess is that it will only make the math more fuzzy.

  • A AP1

    @ballpeen said:

    Just speaking from a football standpoint, the league has expanded to the point where there aren't enough quality players to fill all the job openings.

    @tiamat63 said:

     At any given era, there are only a small handful of QBs able to consistently lead their teams to post season wins as the offensive focal point.  

    Good back and forth in the 4-5 exchanges here. This is what analytics brings us. It's all about timing the pendulum and, now, with the fuzzy math GMs can create with contracts, it's going to pad the blow of failure even more.

    Missing on a transaction used to seem like such a nail in the coffin now. Now, teams shrug it off, willingly eat the money and jump in line to throw the dice again.

    Those analytics have moved to the league offices as well. The NFL knows it has pretty well tapped out it's true, traditional customer base.

    It needed new horizons and willingly hitches itself to the wagons of Taylor Swift and sports gambling. GMs want/need each because the money will just keep getting bigger and bigger.

    Maybe that makes the math less fuzzy, my guess is that it will only make the math more fuzzy.

    @ap1 said:

    It needed new horizons and willingly hitches itself to the wagons of Taylor Swift and sports gambling. GMs want/need each because the money will just keep getting bigger and bigger.

    Maybe that makes the math less fuzzy, my guess is that it will only make the math more fuzzy.

    Well we couda signed Swift but Chicago gave him a 3 year deal on March 13 for $24mil.

  • @gumby73 said:

    Kinda stung posting the Foreman to sign. Toledo grad, w/Hunt signed Toledo jersey. Proud of what Hunt proved w/his time here as a Brown. Played for 4M last season. Interest to what Foreman signs for here.

    The wife is the household Panthers fan. Hated the McCaffery trade. But Yes, D.Foreman almost got 1k after that trade as a Panther.  That Carolina OL, couldn't pass block my wife 😁, but better in run blocking inside tackles. 

    Small world of NFL drafting..

    In the 2017 NFL draft. K.Hunt went 3.86. The next RB off the board, came 3 picks later. Texas RB D'Onte Foreman 3.89. Hunt's truck load played just under 220lbs. (say's 216) .. Foreman does seem to be the a more durable healthy RB playing at 235lbs. 

    Getting a durable D. Foreman this late in the FA pool?  Feels like a solid pickup for Andrew Berry/Browns       

    Foreman has made any mid to late round RB addition likely a complete after thought. All the more reason I believe this draft will be heavy in the trenches. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Foreman has made any mid to late round RB addition likely a complete after thought.

    Absolutely.  FA continues to define our draft.  

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Foreman has made any mid to late round RB addition likely a complete after thought.

    Absolutely.  FA continues to define our draft.  

    @orion said:

    Absolutely.  FA continues to define our draft.  

    It sure does.  It's a pretty cool way of doing it because proven veterans are easier to coach, teach and fit into the roles we need them at.  They're ready to go without growing pains as we saw last year.  I'm learning how good Berry is at this.

  • @orion said:

    Absolutely.  FA continues to define our draft.  

    It sure does.  It's a pretty cool way of doing it because proven veterans are easier to coach, teach and fit into the roles we need them at.  They're ready to go without growing pains as we saw last year.  I'm learning how good Berry is at this.

    @flugel said:

    It sure does.  It's a pretty cool way of doing it because proven veterans are easier to coach, teach and fit into the roles we need them at.  They're ready to go without growing pains as we saw last year.  I'm learning how good Berry is at this.

    Outside of that absolutely terrible jeudy extension. I'm not trying to rain on any parades either. Unless he becomes a different wr that was a heinous overpay. 

  • @orion said:

    Absolutely.  FA continues to define our draft.  

    It sure does.  It's a pretty cool way of doing it because proven veterans are easier to coach, teach and fit into the roles we need them at.  They're ready to go without growing pains as we saw last year.  I'm learning how good Berry is at this.

    @flugel said:

    I'm learning how good Berry is at this.

    He's gotta be though.  He's never got a 1st round pick to work with.  He's gotta fill holes somehow.  And like you say, you know what you're getting...they're pretty much plug & play.  It's the finances of FA that makes it so delicate.  

  • @flugel said:

    I'm learning how good Berry is at this.

    He's gotta be though.  He's never got a 1st round pick to work with.  He's gotta fill holes somehow.  And like you say, you know what you're getting...they're pretty much plug & play.  It's the finances of FA that makes it so delicate.  

    @orion said:

    He's gotta be though.  He's never got a 1st round pick to work with.  He's gotta fill holes somehow.  And like you say, you know what you're getting...they're pretty much plug & play.  It's the finances of FA that makes it so delicate.  

    Exactly!  This seems like a good place to share what AB's wife had to say about him - just click where it says View 26 comments.

  • @orion said:

    He's gotta be though.  He's never got a 1st round pick to work with.  He's gotta fill holes somehow.  And like you say, you know what you're getting...they're pretty much plug & play.  It's the finances of FA that makes it so delicate.  

    Exactly!  This seems like a good place to share what AB's wife had to say about him - just click where it says View 26 comments.