2024 Free Agent Frenzy
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Seems like a good replacement for Chubb in short yardage/goalline situations.
I think you're setting your sights a bit low. Just watching snaps from Carolina and Chicago last year, DFs screen game work looks so similar to how Chubb catches the ball from the backfield.
Dude would be great for 10-12 carries a game beyond just obviously down to move chains.
I think you're setting your sights a bit low. Just watching snaps from Carolina and Chicago last year, DFs screen game work looks so similar to how Chubb catches the ball from the backfield.
Dude would be great for 10-12 carries a game beyond just obviously down to move chains.
I didn't mean that was all the Browns brought him in, but even with Chubb on the team Hunt generally was that guy, and Kareem's time in Cleveland is probably done for good. I could definitely see him splitting time with Ford.
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The world at large has been shifting to this mindset, the last decade or so it has really picked up steam. Not just in football, but just about every aspect of life.
I can't stand it. Especially when it's something I've loved and been deeply devoted to pretty much my entire life.
Just speaking from a football standpoint, the league has expanded to the point where there aren't enough quality players to fill all the job openings. It started with QB's maybe 20 years ago. There simply aren't enough quality QB's to fill the 32 starting quality openings. Half the league is looking for starters. When they finally get them, the half that has them now won't have them.
Just speaking from a football standpoint, the league has expanded to the point where there aren't enough quality players to fill all the job openings.
At any given era, there are only a small handful of QBs able to consistently lead their teams to post season wins as the offensive focal point.
Good back and forth in the 4-5 exchanges here. This is what analytics brings us. It's all about timing the pendulum and, now, with the fuzzy math GMs can create with contracts, it's going to pad the blow of failure even more.
Missing on a transaction used to seem like such a nail in the coffin now. Now, teams shrug it off, willingly eat the money and jump in line to throw the dice again.
Those analytics have moved to the league offices as well. The NFL knows it has pretty well tapped out it's true, traditional customer base.
It needed new horizons and willingly hitches itself to the wagons of Taylor Swift and sports gambling. GMs want/need each because the money will just keep getting bigger and bigger.
Maybe that makes the math less fuzzy, my guess is that it will only make the math more fuzzy.
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Just speaking from a football standpoint, the league has expanded to the point where there aren't enough quality players to fill all the job openings.
At any given era, there are only a small handful of QBs able to consistently lead their teams to post season wins as the offensive focal point.
Good back and forth in the 4-5 exchanges here. This is what analytics brings us. It's all about timing the pendulum and, now, with the fuzzy math GMs can create with contracts, it's going to pad the blow of failure even more.
Missing on a transaction used to seem like such a nail in the coffin now. Now, teams shrug it off, willingly eat the money and jump in line to throw the dice again.
Those analytics have moved to the league offices as well. The NFL knows it has pretty well tapped out it's true, traditional customer base.
It needed new horizons and willingly hitches itself to the wagons of Taylor Swift and sports gambling. GMs want/need each because the money will just keep getting bigger and bigger.
Maybe that makes the math less fuzzy, my guess is that it will only make the math more fuzzy.
It needed new horizons and willingly hitches itself to the wagons of Taylor Swift and sports gambling. GMs want/need each because the money will just keep getting bigger and bigger.
Maybe that makes the math less fuzzy, my guess is that it will only make the math more fuzzy.
Well we couda signed Swift but Chicago gave him a 3 year deal on March 13 for $24mil.
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Kinda stung posting the Foreman to sign. Toledo grad, w/Hunt signed Toledo jersey. Proud of what Hunt proved w/his time here as a Brown. Played for 4M last season. Interest to what Foreman signs for here.
The wife is the household Panthers fan. Hated the McCaffery trade. But Yes, D.Foreman almost got 1k after that trade as a Panther. That Carolina OL, couldn't pass block my wife
, but better in run blocking inside tackles.
Small world of NFL drafting..
In the 2017 NFL draft. K.Hunt went 3.86. The next RB off the board, came 3 picks later. Texas RB D'Onte Foreman 3.89. Hunt's truck load played just under 220lbs. (say's 216) .. Foreman does seem to be the a more durable healthy RB playing at 235lbs.
Getting a durable D. Foreman this late in the FA pool? Feels like a solid pickup for Andrew Berry/Browns
Foreman has made any mid to late round RB addition likely a complete after thought. All the more reason I believe this draft will be heavy in the trenches.
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Absolutely. FA continues to define our draft.
It sure does. It's a pretty cool way of doing it because proven veterans are easier to coach, teach and fit into the roles we need them at. They're ready to go without growing pains as we saw last year. I'm learning how good Berry is at this.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Absolutely. FA continues to define our draft.
It sure does. It's a pretty cool way of doing it because proven veterans are easier to coach, teach and fit into the roles we need them at. They're ready to go without growing pains as we saw last year. I'm learning how good Berry is at this.
It sure does. It's a pretty cool way of doing it because proven veterans are easier to coach, teach and fit into the roles we need them at. They're ready to go without growing pains as we saw last year. I'm learning how good Berry is at this.
Outside of that absolutely terrible jeudy extension. I'm not trying to rain on any parades either. Unless he becomes a different wr that was a heinous overpay.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Absolutely. FA continues to define our draft.
It sure does. It's a pretty cool way of doing it because proven veterans are easier to coach, teach and fit into the roles we need them at. They're ready to go without growing pains as we saw last year. I'm learning how good Berry is at this.
I'm learning how good Berry is at this.
He's gotta be though. He's never got a 1st round pick to work with. He's gotta fill holes somehow. And like you say, you know what you're getting...they're pretty much plug & play. It's the finances of FA that makes it so delicate.
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He's gotta be though. He's never got a 1st round pick to work with. He's gotta fill holes somehow. And like you say, you know what you're getting...they're pretty much plug & play. It's the finances of FA that makes it so delicate.
Exactly! This seems like a good place to share what AB's wife had to say about him - just click where it says View 26 comments.
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He's gotta be though. He's never got a 1st round pick to work with. He's gotta fill holes somehow. And like you say, you know what you're getting...they're pretty much plug & play. It's the finances of FA that makes it so delicate.
Exactly! This seems like a good place to share what AB's wife had to say about him - just click where it says View 26 comments.
I wonder what Ray Farmer was doing in 5th grade...
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It sure does. It's a pretty cool way of doing it because proven veterans are easier to coach, teach and fit into the roles we need them at. They're ready to go without growing pains as we saw last year. I'm learning how good Berry is at this.
Outside of that absolutely terrible jeudy extension. I'm not trying to rain on any parades either. Unless he becomes a different wr that was a heinous overpay.
Outside of that absolutely terrible jeudy extension. I'm not trying to rain on any parades either. Unless he becomes a different wr that was a heinous overpay.
Yeah, I'm not sure how this one will turn out Vag. Having said that, here's an example of a HOF RB you're pretty familiar with. After an impressive rookie year for the Rams averaging 4.9 yards per carry he dropped down to 3.2 ypc with only 3 TDs a year later. The 3rd year resembled the 2nd. Basically, Jerome Bettis needed a fresh start and a better fit. Jeudy hasn't played up to the expectation of a 1st round WR in Denver; and I'm thinking the Browns are betting on this horse the way Pittsburgh bet on Bettis. Having said that, I wish the Browns used more contract incentives than guaranteed money. Unfortunately, the stats I cut and pasted below reformatted but it's not too hard to see what matches what.
RushingSEASON TEAM 1993 LOS1994 LOS1995 STL1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 Career GP CAR YDS AVG TD LNG FD FUM LST 16 294 1,429 4.9 7 71 79 3 1 16 319 1,025 3.2 3 19 53 5 3 15 183 637 3.5 3 41 24 4 2 16 320 1,431 4.5 11 50 76 6 4 15 375 1,665 4.4 7 34 94 6 6 15 316 1,185 3.8 3 42 58 2 1 16 299 1,091 3.6 7 35 64 2 1 16 355 1,341 3.8 8 30 71 1 0 11 225 1,072 4.8 4 48 46 3 0 13 187 666 3.6 9 41 42 1 1 16 246 811 3.3 7 21 43 4 4 15 250 941 3.8 13 29 50 1 0 12 110 368 3.3 9 39 30 0 0 192 3479 13,662 3.9 91 71 730 38 23 -
The Browns have re-signed kicker Cade York, I'm guessing with the idea of putting him back on the Practice Squad?
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The Browns have re-signed kicker Cade York, I'm guessing with the idea of putting him back on the Practice Squad?
The Browns have re-signed kicker Cade York, I'm guessing with the idea of putting him back on the Practice Squad?
Here's what we do...we keep him on the 53 but don't ever use him (maybe for kickoffs)...and when a rival loses a kicker to injury, we put him on the PS.
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Kinda stung posting the Foreman to sign. Toledo grad, w/Hunt signed Toledo jersey. Proud of what Hunt proved w/his time here as a Brown. Played for 4M last season. Interest to what Foreman signs for here.
The wife is the household Panthers fan. Hated the McCaffery trade. But Yes, D.Foreman almost got 1k after that trade as a Panther. That Carolina OL, couldn't pass block my wife
, but better in run blocking inside tackles.
Small world of NFL drafting..
In the 2017 NFL draft. K.Hunt went 3.86. The next RB off the board, came 3 picks later. Texas RB D'Onte Foreman 3.89. Hunt's truck load played just under 220lbs. (say's 216) .. Foreman does seem to be the a more durable healthy RB playing at 235lbs.
Getting a durable D. Foreman this late in the FA pool? Feels like a solid pickup for Andrew Berry/Browns
Foreman has made any mid to late round RB addition likely a complete after thought. All the more reason I believe this draft will be heavy in the trenches.
Foreman has made any mid to late round RB addition likely a complete after thought. All the more reason I believe this draft will be heavy in the trenches.
I hope it is. Everything I read is that this is a strong draft in those areas. Get while the getting is good. Couple that with we have a lot of trench players on 1 year deals or are starting to get "old" so it makes perfect sense to get a few in here this year to season up so they can play next year.
The Browns are finally in a position where we can use the draft to just pluck the best players we can and or if needs is a consideration we are now drafting for next years needs.
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Justin Hardee
@Hawk You may find people who are AS Cleveland as Justin Hardee... but you won't find a soul who is MORE Cleveland. Great signing @Browns'" data-ratio="75.08" width="999" src="https://scontent.fosu2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/434660099_959085055568102_3540204270369668110_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=mJxvdB07Hh8AX8okucZ&_nc_ht=scontent.fosu2-2.fna&oh=00_AfCM7DSJvriBd3HCqmbdKzEUcUxxZWbBs8H8Ku_YsLDxiQ&oe=66124927" />
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Justin Hardee
@Hawk You may find people who are AS Cleveland as Justin Hardee... but you won't find a soul who is MORE Cleveland. Great signing @Browns'" data-ratio="75.08" width="999" src="https://scontent.fosu2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/434660099_959085055568102_3540204270369668110_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=mJxvdB07Hh8AX8okucZ&_nc_ht=scontent.fosu2-2.fna&oh=00_AfCM7DSJvriBd3HCqmbdKzEUcUxxZWbBs8H8Ku_YsLDxiQ&oe=66124927" />
Justin Hardee
Thanks Vambo! This is a very good pick-up for the Browns. Here's an interesting article that tells us the type of player he is. I think we always have room for this...
NY Jets lose key Pro Bowler and team captain to Browns
This is a pretty big loss for the Jets
By Justin Fried | Apr 2, 2024
Justin Hardee / Vincent Carchietta-USA TODAY Sports
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The NY Jets were able to retain their standout specialist duo of Thomas Morstead and Greg Zuerlein this offseason, but the team's special-teams unit will still look quite different in 2024.
That's because former Pro Bowler and special-teams captain Justin Hardee officially signed with the Cleveland Browns on Tuesday, ending his three-year tenure with the organization.
Ian Rapoport@RapSheetThe #Browns are signing former #Jets core special teamer Justin Hardee, sources say. Hardee has excelled on kick and punt coverage, among his ST skills.
Hardee had previously hinted at an impending Jets departure on social media earlier in the offseason, which is why it shouldn't come as much of a surprise that he wasn't brought back.
The 30-year-old missed time due to injury in 2023, appearing in 11 games, but his value shouldn't be understated. Hardee is one of the best special-teamers in football and a beloved team captain — he will be missed.
How the NY Jets plan to replace Justin Hardee
The decision to let Hardee walk likely came down to a couple of factors. The first, and most obvious, reason has to do with money. The specific details of Hardee's contract are yet to be released, but even if he signed for the veteran minimum, that's still probably more than the Jets were willing to pay.
Hardee's primary replacement is expected to be Irv Charles, a former undrafted free agent who earned a spot on the team due to his special-teams prowess and helped fill in admirably while Hardee was sidelined last season.
Charles is under contract for just $915,000 in 2024. The veteran minimum for a player with 7+ years of experience (which Hardee has) is $1.65 million next season. There's no scenario in which Hardee could've been signed for less than Charles.
The Jets remain high on Charles' potential and were impressed by his performance last season. Charles led all Jets players with a 90.3 Pro Football Focus special-teams grade in 2023 and finished second on the team with eight special-teams tackles despite playing only 12 games.
The Jets will also return fellow gunner Brandin Echols and Isaiah Oliver, who the team signed last month. Both Echols and Oliver have extensive experience as gunners, which should help mitigate the loss of Hardee.
It'll be up to special teams coordinator Brant Boyer to make up for Hardee's absence in 2024, and Charles is the player they're most likely counting on.
Perhaps this motivates the Jets to more aggressively attempt to re-sign Ashtyn Davis, another Boyer favorite who led the Jets in special-teams tackles last season.
Either way, losing Hardee is a significant blow to the Jets' locker room and special-teams unit. Unfortunately, the NFL is a business at the end of the day, and the Jets made a business decision.
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A really nice addition to the unit and team.
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A really nice addition to the unit and team.
When you factor in the new rule changes to the kickoffs that will significantly increase the number of kickoff returns in all likelihood - perfect timing to add a Pro Bowl STs guy that's good at covering punts/kickoffs.
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When you factor in the new rule changes to the kickoffs that will significantly increase the number of kickoff returns in all likelihood - perfect timing to add a Pro Bowl STs guy that's good at covering punts/kickoffs.
Yep. Kickoffs could change a great deal. In the past speed on coverage units was important. Now, maybe not as much. With less ground to cover, it may look more like a defensive team playing against a run play. We might see more bulk on the field. These units could see some guards and centers on the return team to set up blocking.
It will be interesting to see how all of this plays out.
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