Who Are The Browns Going To Pick at #54?
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(The absolute best part of that incident is a guy drafted #1 in the NFL could not outrun a cop. Comedy gold, right there.)
And yet he made the decision to try and run for the 1st down instead of simply tossing it to a wide open Demetric Felton standing just beyond the sticks at the sideline...while trailing in the 4th qtr of a late season game. We had to punt. We lost the game and wound up missing the playoffs. He looked right at wide open Felton...and decided to outrun guys that are much faster than cops. That pissed me off. From that point on I no longer felt that he was the QB that we needed....but that we'd be stuck with him. And this is why I've never been able to bash Haslem, Berry, DePo and/or Stef for the trade for Watson because some, or all of them, must have felt the same way that I did. I'll sometimes bash the fact that we spent all of the draft picks and $$ for something that we've really got virtually nothing out of so far...but I can't bash them for doing what they did.
And yet he made the decision to try and run for the 1st down instead of simply tossing it to a wide open Demetric Felton standing just beyond the sticks at the sideline...while trailing in the 4th qtr of a late season game. We had to punt. We lost the game and wound up missing the playoffs. He looked right at wide open Felton...and decided to outrun guys that are much faster than cops. That pissed me off. From that point on I no longer felt that he was the QB that we needed....but that we'd be stuck with him. And this is why I've never been able to bash Haslem, Berry, DePo and/or Stef for the trade for Watson because some, or all of them, must have felt the same way that I did. I'll sometimes bash the fact that we spent all of the draft picks and $$ for something that we've really got virtually nothing out of so far...but I can't bash them for doing what they did.
? For the part in bold. I remember Mudfly stopped in right after the trade to remind us that outside of Myles Garrett and Denzel Ward, this franchise has been best known for messing up 1st round picks. It was 10 years between selecting Joe Thomas and Myles Garrett/David Njoku (who took a while to meet expectations).
When Watson plays like the National Champion QB who buried Ohio State and Alabama (loaded w/ 1st and 2nd round prospects on their defenses); and the Pro Bowl QB he was in Houston for 2 years - very few will worry about what the Browns gave up.
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And yet he made the decision to try and run for the 1st down instead of simply tossing it to a wide open Demetric Felton standing just beyond the sticks at the sideline...while trailing in the 4th qtr of a late season game. We had to punt. We lost the game and wound up missing the playoffs. He looked right at wide open Felton...and decided to outrun guys that are much faster than cops. That pissed me off. From that point on I no longer felt that he was the QB that we needed....but that we'd be stuck with him. And this is why I've never been able to bash Haslem, Berry, DePo and/or Stef for the trade for Watson because some, or all of them, must have felt the same way that I did. I'll sometimes bash the fact that we spent all of the draft picks and $$ for something that we've really got virtually nothing out of so far...but I can't bash them for doing what they did.
? For the part in bold. I remember Mudfly stopped in right after the trade to remind us that outside of Myles Garrett and Denzel Ward, this franchise has been best known for messing up 1st round picks. It was 10 years between selecting Joe Thomas and Myles Garrett/David Njoku (who took a while to meet expectations).
When Watson plays like the National Champion QB who buried Ohio State and Alabama (loaded w/ 1st and 2nd round prospects on their defenses); and the Pro Bowl QB he was in Houston for 2 years - very few will worry about what the Browns gave up.
When Watson plays like the National Champion QB
Yeah, but it's been so long that I think that the When has become If.
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Yeah, but it's been so long that I think that the When has become If.
I hear ya; but he made 2 Pro Bowls in his 2nd and 3rd seasons. His 4th year in Houston they started purging their roster; but he had the highest passer ratings of his career in spite of it. Some of this is on the coaching staff to know why they wanted him and how they were going to use him. Being suspended 11 games in 2022 didn't help after not playing all of 2021. Our fans don't want to hear the excuses I just gave; and rightfully so. My question to myself here - does this type of talent heading into the prime of his career just wake up 1 day with a Charlie Frye skill-set at age 28? No.
2021 Didn't play
2020 70.2 comp% 4,823 yards 33 TD 7 INT 112.4 rating
2019 67.3 comp% 3,852 yards 26 TD 12 INT 98.0 rating Pro Bowl
2018 68.3 comp% 4,165 yards 26 TD 9 INT 103.1 rating Pro Bowl
2017 61.8 comp% 1,699 yards 19 TD 8 INT 103.0 rating
This is how he compared in his last year with the rest of the QBs in 2020.
PASSING YDS 4,823 4,740 4,633 4,581 4,544 I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Yeah, but it's been so long that I think that the When has become If.
That's an absolute fair statement.
I have serious doubts that we will ever see the 2018-20 Watson.
He now has to overcome a shoulder injury to his throwing arm, all the noise he hears from his off-the-field allegations, and a questionable fit with Kevin Stefanski.
I wouldn't bet on it. I hope I'm wrong.
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Yeah, but it's been so long that I think that the When has become If.
I hear ya; but he made 2 Pro Bowls in his 2nd and 3rd seasons. His 4th year in Houston they started purging their roster; but he had the highest passer ratings of his career in spite of it. Some of this is on the coaching staff to know why they wanted him and how they were going to use him. Being suspended 11 games in 2022 didn't help after not playing all of 2021. Our fans don't want to hear the excuses I just gave; and rightfully so. My question to myself here - does this type of talent heading into the prime of his career just wake up 1 day with a Charlie Frye skill-set at age 28? No.
2021 Didn't play
2020 70.2 comp% 4,823 yards 33 TD 7 INT 112.4 rating
2019 67.3 comp% 3,852 yards 26 TD 12 INT 98.0 rating Pro Bowl
2018 68.3 comp% 4,165 yards 26 TD 9 INT 103.1 rating Pro Bowl
2017 61.8 comp% 1,699 yards 19 TD 8 INT 103.0 rating
This is how he compared in his last year with the rest of the QBs in 2020.
PASSING YDS 4,823 4,740 4,633 4,581 4,544 does this type of talent heading into the prime of his career just wake up 1 day with a Charlie Frye skill-set
That's more or less the 64k question. (the 'less' being that we don't think he'd be Charlie Frye bad) But there does exist the possibility that all of the missed time and all of the pressure to perform up to the standard of a 3 first round pick traded player...negativity towards him from part of the Browns fan base...lingering legal issues, etc. might weigh on him to the extant that he never returns to his previous level of play. I wouldn't bet $ either way.
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There was a time where I actually did follow the draft and prospects. I don't know anything about the players in this years draft. I would imagine they will address the O-line and possibly linebacker. Seems like we addressed RB and WR pretty well in FA. I would bring in another CB to develope as insurance for Ward or Newsome.
If you're old school like some of us - go buy a draft Magazine and it'll get you up to speed with the names, positions and rankings within the position groups.
If you're old school like some of us - go buy a draft Magazine and it'll get you up to speed with the names, positions and rankings within the position groups.
I did at one point, at least until they started to cost $18. It not that $18 is prohibitive, it's just that it doesn't matter all that much. It's not like I seek to be a Jr. Mel or something.
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If you're old school like some of us - go buy a draft Magazine and it'll get you up to speed with the names, positions and rankings within the position groups.
I did at one point, at least until they started to cost $18. It not that $18 is prohibitive, it's just that it doesn't matter all that much. It's not like I seek to be a Jr. Mel or something.
I did at one point, at least until they started to cost $18. It not that $18 is prohibitive, it's just that it doesn't matter all that much. It's not like I seek to be a Jr. Mel or something.
Understood. I need my day job so I don't buy the magazine/guide to try to be like Mel Kiper Jr; and I hope no one else does either. It's more of a last minute Cliffs Notes summary of research and rankings of guys at all positions - many that weren't televised in the region I live in very often. For example, a guy like BYU WR Puka Nacua last year or Brock Purdy (Mr Irrelevant) in 2022. Most of the guys we've heard/seen a lot about are often drafted within the 1st 2-3 rounds of a 7 round draft. On the 3rd day of the draft when it starts moving faster - names of selections appear and sometimes you don't even see their quick highlights until 10-15 minutes later. That's when I'm really happy to have the resource to look up the guy the Browns picked.
As for the price, they stamp those prices right on the bar card on the bottom left corner of the magazine cover. And if they're going to over-charge a consumer - you're the guy I'd hand select to argue that all the way down to a discount Ballpeen.
Lindy's Sports Pro Football Mag was only $10.99 so I drank less beer that weekend. Unfortunately, that still didn't help me find the 6 pack in my mid-section. Should I put that on a milk carton? "Has anyone seen Pus-Gut Flugel's Abs since 1982? Okay, did anyone ever see them before that?"
Athlon Sports NFL Draft was a little more at $12.99.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
returning to slick Flug's 54th pick choices ?
1.) Being AB's choice..
It'd take a 22 y.o 4.3 speed WR to fall on pick #54? Still feels like Berry trades back. Berry's guardrails would put the younger LB Junior Colson ahead of my choice of local LB Payton Wilson. My believe is Colson won't get to #54 but, Payton Wilson may with injury testing/draft age..
Give me.. LB Payton Wilson at pick #54.. @flugel Morning Pancake special (cameraman sucks) .. My spelling test, calls him A-meg ! Stinging Bee-hive T, is raw enough to be the Browns/my 85th pick..
Meet playing angry, till whistle Jed Wills
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
I did at one point, at least until they started to cost $18. It not that $18 is prohibitive, it's just that it doesn't matter all that much. It's not like I seek to be a Jr. Mel or something.
Understood. I need my day job so I don't buy the magazine/guide to try to be like Mel Kiper Jr; and I hope no one else does either. It's more of a last minute Cliffs Notes summary of research and rankings of guys at all positions - many that weren't televised in the region I live in very often. For example, a guy like BYU WR Puka Nacua last year or Brock Purdy (Mr Irrelevant) in 2022. Most of the guys we've heard/seen a lot about are often drafted within the 1st 2-3 rounds of a 7 round draft. On the 3rd day of the draft when it starts moving faster - names of selections appear and sometimes you don't even see their quick highlights until 10-15 minutes later. That's when I'm really happy to have the resource to look up the guy the Browns picked.
As for the price, they stamp those prices right on the bar card on the bottom left corner of the magazine cover. And if they're going to over-charge a consumer - you're the guy I'd hand select to argue that all the way down to a discount Ballpeen.
Lindy's Sports Pro Football Mag was only $10.99 so I drank less beer that weekend. Unfortunately, that still didn't help me find the 6 pack in my mid-section. Should I put that on a milk carton? "Has anyone seen Pus-Gut Flugel's Abs since 1982? Okay, did anyone ever see them before that?"
Athlon Sports NFL Draft was a little more at $12.99.
Understood. I need my day job so I don't buy the magazine/guide to try to be like Mel Kiper Jr; and I hope no one else does either. It's more of a last minute Cliffs Notes summary of research and rankings of guys at all positions - many that weren't televised in the region I live in very often. For example, a guy like BYU WR Puka Nacua last year or Brock Purdy (Mr Irrelevant) in 2022. Most of the guys we've heard/seen a lot about are often drafted within the 1st 2-3 rounds of a 7 round draft. On the 3rd day of the draft when it starts moving faster - names of selections appear and sometimes you don't even see their quick highlights until 10-15 minutes later. That's when I'm really happy to have the resource to look up the guy the Browns picked.
As for the price, they stamp those prices right on the bar card on the bottom left corner of the magazine cover. And if they're going to over-charge a consumer - you're the guy I'd hand select to argue that all the way down to a discount Ballpeen.
Lindy's Sports Pro Football Mag was only $10.99 so I drank less beer that weekend. Unfortunately, that still didn't help me find the 6 pack in my mid-section. Should I put that on a milk carton? "Has anyone seen Pus-Gut Flugel's Abs since 1982? Okay, did anyone ever see them before that?"
Athlon Sports NFL Draft was a little more at $12.99.
Don't get me wrong. I don't care if some like that. I wasn't trying to insult those who do. I was just speaking for myself. You are probably right on cost. I haven't bought a draft guide in a long time. The net overloads me with that information. II was thinking of fantasy draft guides. Those seem to run in the $17 range.
Also, the draft is only interesting when your team sucks or you are actually in the draft and you are 4-5 picks away from your pick. When you pick 4th, draft forums are non stop because it is pretty easy to cross off 2-3 players from a draft board and start to discuss players who you actually have a shot at drafting. When you are picking in the 2nd round, it's futile to try to pinpoint guys we might draft..
Not until the 1st round is over will it be possible to even have a fair shot of picking our guy.
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Its funny, but we all miss having a first round pick when it comes to draft talk, and the general lack of draft talk the last three years kind of confirms this.
But the few times we had the #1 overall pick kind of lacked a certain sex-appeal to when it was obvious who we were taking, like Myles. (But not the year we took Baker, that draft lead-up was bananas on here. Every day, calfox trying to outdo himself in being a whiny bitch. It was almost impressive. ?)
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Understood. I need my day job so I don't buy the magazine/guide to try to be like Mel Kiper Jr; and I hope no one else does either. It's more of a last minute Cliffs Notes summary of research and rankings of guys at all positions - many that weren't televised in the region I live in very often. For example, a guy like BYU WR Puka Nacua last year or Brock Purdy (Mr Irrelevant) in 2022. Most of the guys we've heard/seen a lot about are often drafted within the 1st 2-3 rounds of a 7 round draft. On the 3rd day of the draft when it starts moving faster - names of selections appear and sometimes you don't even see their quick highlights until 10-15 minutes later. That's when I'm really happy to have the resource to look up the guy the Browns picked.
As for the price, they stamp those prices right on the bar card on the bottom left corner of the magazine cover. And if they're going to over-charge a consumer - you're the guy I'd hand select to argue that all the way down to a discount Ballpeen.
Lindy's Sports Pro Football Mag was only $10.99 so I drank less beer that weekend. Unfortunately, that still didn't help me find the 6 pack in my mid-section. Should I put that on a milk carton? "Has anyone seen Pus-Gut Flugel's Abs since 1982? Okay, did anyone ever see them before that?"
Athlon Sports NFL Draft was a little more at $12.99.
Don't get me wrong. I don't care if some like that. I wasn't trying to insult those who do. I was just speaking for myself. You are probably right on cost. I haven't bought a draft guide in a long time. The net overloads me with that information. II was thinking of fantasy draft guides. Those seem to run in the $17 range.
Also, the draft is only interesting when your team sucks or you are actually in the draft and you are 4-5 picks away from your pick. When you pick 4th, draft forums are non stop because it is pretty easy to cross off 2-3 players from a draft board and start to discuss players who you actually have a shot at drafting. When you are picking in the 2nd round, it's futile to try to pinpoint guys we might draft..
Not until the 1st round is over will it be possible to even have a fair shot of picking our guy.
Also, the draft is only interesting when your team sucks........ When you are picking in the 2nd round, it's futile to try to pinpoint guys we might draft.
Similar to what I said in February.
Once we got through the bulk of free agency our more crucial needs became more in focus. Now one can take a look at a few Big Boards and see what players are ranked in the area of pick 54...or 85. Then one can take a cursory look at players at positions that you think are in need of help.
( the Browns home page did a segment on Ricky Pearson. I've not read it...but I'll probably get around to it )
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returning to slick Flug's 54th pick choices ?
1.) Being AB's choice..
It'd take a 22 y.o 4.3 speed WR to fall on pick #54? Still feels like Berry trades back. Berry's guardrails would put the younger LB Junior Colson ahead of my choice of local LB Payton Wilson. My believe is Colson won't get to #54 but, Payton Wilson may with injury testing/draft age..
Give me.. LB Payton Wilson at pick #54.. @flugel Morning Pancake special (cameraman sucks) .. My spelling test, calls him A-meg ! Stinging Bee-hive T, is raw enough to be the Browns/my 85th pick..
Meet playing angry, till whistle Jed Wills
returning to slick Flug's 54th pick choices ?
1.) Being AB's choice..
It'd take a 22 y.o 4.3 speed WR to fall on pick #54? Still feels like Berry trades back. Berry's guardrails would put the younger LB Junior Colson ahead of my choice of local LB Payton Wilson. My believe is Colson won't get to #54 but, Payton Wilson may with injury testing/draft age..
Give me.. LB Payton Wilson at pick #54.. @flugel Morning Pancake special (cameraman sucks) .. My spelling test, calls him A-meg ! Stinging Bee-hive T, is raw enough to be the Browns/my 85th pick..
Meet playing angry, till whistle Jed Wills
My spelling test says that's A-mega start to our draft Gumbs! That Y for Yale just gave you a Y for Yahtzee. I was wondering where you were; and you didn't disappoint. Well done!
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returning to slick Flug's 54th pick choices ?
1.) Being AB's choice..
It'd take a 22 y.o 4.3 speed WR to fall on pick #54? Still feels like Berry trades back. Berry's guardrails would put the younger LB Junior Colson ahead of my choice of local LB Payton Wilson. My believe is Colson won't get to #54 but, Payton Wilson may with injury testing/draft age..
Give me.. LB Payton Wilson at pick #54.. @flugel Morning Pancake special (cameraman sucks) .. My spelling test, calls him A-meg ! Stinging Bee-hive T, is raw enough to be the Browns/my 85th pick..
Meet playing angry, till whistle Jed Wills
My spelling test says that's A-mega start to our draft Gumbs! That Y for Yale just gave you a Y for Yahtzee. I was wondering where you were; and you didn't disappoint. Well done!
My spelling test says that's A-mega start to our draft Gumbs!
Fast moving week..Since last Sunday.
A-Mega's stock went from the mid 80's, to now ranked #75 as of here https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2024/consensus-big-board-2024
a.)Berry a.) trades a Tackle Watson to Tits for a 7th. b.) Injury medical release of G Drew Forbes c.) A camp PS T retires named Murray.
d.) Browns add a RT/RG Germaine Ifedi
Ageing high Contracts at both G/RT.. Heck..We might be more in need, of developing a drafted G or T? Than we were this time last weekend
- Rounds 2-3: Friday, April 26 at 7 p.m. ET. Gates open at Noon ?
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My spelling test says that's A-mega start to our draft Gumbs!
Fast moving week..Since last Sunday.
A-Mega's stock went from the mid 80's, to now ranked #75 as of here https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2024/consensus-big-board-2024
a.)Berry a.) trades a Tackle Watson to Tits for a 7th. b.) Injury medical release of G Drew Forbes c.) A camp PS T retires named Murray.
d.) Browns add a RT/RG Germaine Ifedi
Ageing high Contracts at both G/RT.. Heck..We might be more in need, of developing a drafted G or T? Than we were this time last weekend
- Rounds 2-3: Friday, April 26 at 7 p.m. ET. Gates open at Noon ?
Fast moving week..Since last Sunday.
A-Mega's stock went from the mid 80's, to now ranked #75 as of here https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2024/consensus-big-board-2024
a.)Berry a.) trades a Tackle Watson to Tits for a 7th. b.) Injury medical release of G Drew Forbes c.) A camp PS T retires named Murray.
d.) Browns add a RT/RG Germaine Ifedi
Ageing high Contracts at both G/RT.. Heck..We might be more in need, of developing a drafted G or T? Than we were this time last weekend
- Rounds 2-3: Friday, April 26 at 7 p.m. ET. Gates open at Noon ?
IMO, Left Tackles are somewhat like QBs in the sense teams will reach for them. For example, Lindy's Draft Mag has Kiran Amegadije going to KC at #64 overall in their Mock Draft - even though they had him as their 13th highest rated Offensive Tackle as a 4th round projection. He didn't make the Top 100 Rated Players posted in this mag based on consensus opinion of Field Level Media analysts. That said, the entire Ivy League got snobbed from that list.
My other Draft Mag from Athlon Sports has him rated #76 overall in their Top 100 players. Before I share where this Mock Draft has him going - there's been some trades between when this was printed vrs the other Mag. This mag's mock draft also has KC taking Amegadije but this version has KC doing it at #63 overall. I think the most up to date version has KC drafting in the 64th spot.
In either case, KC has a franchise QB to protect. Both Mock Drafts acknowledge the importance of that in terms of reaching above the ratings/projections into a limited supply of Left Tackles available to shield off the blind side of passer.
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IMO, because we do have Jedrick Wills, we will not be drafting for the LT spot in round 2...and the RT spot seems set with two guys that could start...as well as the RG/RT veteran that we just signed. Though I do expect a day 3 OT selection.
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IMO, because we do have Jedrick Wills, we will not be drafting for the LT spot in round 2...and the RT spot seems set with two guys that could start...as well as the RG/RT veteran that we just signed. Though I do expect a day 3 OT selection.
IMO, because we do have Jedrick Wills, we will not be drafting for the LT spot in round 2...and the RT spot seems set with two guys that could start...as well as the RG/RT veteran that we just signed. Though I do expect a day 3 OT selection.
You think they would pass on a LT because Wills is on the roster? Isn't he on the last season of his rookie contract?
And Conklin should retire. Guy can't stay healthy enough to play into October.
Jones is the only Tackle on the roster worth building around long-term.
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IMO, because we do have Jedrick Wills, we will not be drafting for the LT spot in round 2...and the RT spot seems set with two guys that could start...as well as the RG/RT veteran that we just signed. Though I do expect a day 3 OT selection.
You think they would pass on a LT because Wills is on the roster? Isn't he on the last season of his rookie contract?
And Conklin should retire. Guy can't stay healthy enough to play into October.
Jones is the only Tackle on the roster worth building around long-term.
You think they would pass on a LT because Wills is on the roster? Isn't he on the last season of his rookie contract?
And Conklin should retire. Guy can't stay healthy enough to play into October.
Jones is the only Tackle on the roster worth building around long-term.
I agree with everything you said. AND, I'm not real high on Wills. (I'm the one who claims that he's got it written in his contract that he only need block for 3.5 seconds per play) IMO, there are 3 positions that are 'first round important' positions. QB, premier edge rusher and LT. Not that you can't find really good ones in later rounds...but the probability goes down on a faster curve. I think it'll be 2025 for LT...unless they find one on day 3 this year.
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IMO, because we do have Jedrick Wills, we will not be drafting for the LT spot in round 2...and the RT spot seems set with two guys that could start...as well as the RG/RT veteran that we just signed. Though I do expect a day 3 OT selection.
You think they would pass on a LT because Wills is on the roster? Isn't he on the last season of his rookie contract?
And Conklin should retire. Guy can't stay healthy enough to play into October.
Jones is the only Tackle on the roster worth building around long-term.
You think they would pass on a LT because Wills is on the roster? Isn't he on the last season of his rookie contract?
And Conklin should retire. Guy can't stay healthy enough to play into October.
Jones is the only Tackle on the roster worth building around long-term.
I have to agree. I think we're begging for trouble pretending 1 more year of Casper the Friendly Ghost at Left Tackle helps this team in any way. This was like 2022 when the Browns pretended DT wasn't important at all. End result? This team couldn't stop the run or keep offensive linemen off the LB Corps. In fact, we had portions of the 2022 season where the entire 1st string of LBers were injured because of it.
Yeah, Wills under contract but does that light his fanny or make him feel entitled 1 more time? I don't see a lot of playoff teams that have their biggest weakness upfront at Left Tackle. There may be some exceptions to that - like the Browns at the expense of needing 5 different QBs. When Wills went on IR, the Browns won 4 of their last 5 games. The only one they lost in that stretch was in Cincy. That day, they rested a lot of valuable starters while starting Jeff Driskell at QB.
Unfortunately, none of this means they'll take a LT. There's probably going to be a run on them before we draft in round 2. We'll see what happens...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
You think they would pass on a LT because Wills is on the roster? Isn't he on the last season of his rookie contract?
And Conklin should retire. Guy can't stay healthy enough to play into October.
Jones is the only Tackle on the roster worth building around long-term.
I have to agree. I think we're begging for trouble pretending 1 more year of Casper the Friendly Ghost at Left Tackle helps this team in any way. This was like 2022 when the Browns pretended DT wasn't important at all. End result? This team couldn't stop the run or keep offensive linemen off the LB Corps. In fact, we had portions of the 2022 season where the entire 1st string of LBers were injured because of it.
Yeah, Wills under contract but does that light his fanny or make him feel entitled 1 more time? I don't see a lot of playoff teams that have their biggest weakness upfront at Left Tackle. There may be some exceptions to that - like the Browns at the expense of needing 5 different QBs. When Wills went on IR, the Browns won 4 of their last 5 games. The only one they lost in that stretch was in Cincy. That day, they rested a lot of valuable starters while starting Jeff Driskell at QB.
Unfortunately, none of this means they'll take a LT. There's probably going to be a run on them before we draft in round 2. We'll see what happens...
I have to agree. I think we're begging for trouble pretending 1 more year of Casper the Friendly Ghost at Left Tackle helps this team in any way. This was like 2022 when the Browns pretended DT wasn't important at all. End result? This team couldn't stop the run or keep offensive linemen off the LB Corps. In fact, we had portions of the 2022 season where the entire 1st string of LBers were injured because of it.
Yeah, Wills under contract but does that light his fanny or make him feel entitled 1 more time? I don't see a lot of playoff teams that have their biggest weakness upfront at Left Tackle. There may be some exceptions to that - like the Browns at the expense of needing 5 different QBs. When Wills went on IR, the Browns won 4 of their last 5 games. The only one they lost in that stretch was in Cincy. That day, they rested a lot of valuable starters while starting Jeff Driskell at QB.
Unfortunately, none of this means they'll take a LT. There's probably going to be a run on them before we draft in round 2. We'll see what happens...
I'd say there is a higher probability we take an interior O-lineman before we would take a LT. The only reason as I see it is there should be better guards on the board than LT prospects.
But, as you said, we will see what happens. You never know who might or might no be there.
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I have to agree. I think we're begging for trouble pretending 1 more year of Casper the Friendly Ghost at Left Tackle helps this team in any way. This was like 2022 when the Browns pretended DT wasn't important at all. End result? This team couldn't stop the run or keep offensive linemen off the LB Corps. In fact, we had portions of the 2022 season where the entire 1st string of LBers were injured because of it.
Yeah, Wills under contract but does that light his fanny or make him feel entitled 1 more time? I don't see a lot of playoff teams that have their biggest weakness upfront at Left Tackle. There may be some exceptions to that - like the Browns at the expense of needing 5 different QBs. When Wills went on IR, the Browns won 4 of their last 5 games. The only one they lost in that stretch was in Cincy. That day, they rested a lot of valuable starters while starting Jeff Driskell at QB.
Unfortunately, none of this means they'll take a LT. There's probably going to be a run on them before we draft in round 2. We'll see what happens...
I'd say there is a higher probability we take an interior O-lineman before we would take a LT. The only reason as I see it is there should be better guards on the board than LT prospects.
But, as you said, we will see what happens. You never know who might or might no be there.
I'd say there is a higher probability we take an interior O-lineman before we would take a LT. The only reason as I see it is there should be better guards on the board than LT prospects.
But, as you said, we will see what happens. You never know who might or might no be there.
Yeah, who knows? You might be right Ballpeen. If you are right - the good news is a lot of productive college tackles (lacking arm length) get drafted to play OG creating a bigger supply of Guards (ie: Joel Bitonio was a Tackle in college) overall. This also means we wouldn't have to draft one in round 2 in order to secure a good one. Besides, we don't need immediate impact at OG with Bitonio and Teller so they can defer to a later round for a developmental guy.
Just thinking out loud here. I think we have more depth inside at this time than at LT. Michael Dunn can play LG extremely well; and I'm guessing he could do the same at RG if we needed him to (that's an easier transition from 1 side to the other than OT). He helped us beat SF without Bitonio. They just signed a backup RG Germain Ifedi (who would only play RT if both Conklin and Jones are injured). Luke Wypler will also be counted on to backup Center an OG spot. Right now, I don't think we have a backup LT on the roster that anyone would have a great deal of confidence in (unless I'm forgetting someone I shouldn't be).
There's been mentions and thoughts on our board about moving Dawand Jones to LT. I've warmed up to this idea more than I thought I would. However, trying this the 1st training camp after a serious knee injury that landed him on IR and a surgery table might not be the best time to try this. Like Dutch reminds us, we're not having any luck keeping Conklin healthy so we'll probably see more of Jones than Conklin at RT again.
My guess is we'll go LT with our first pick in round 2 unless a run on the position depletes the supply of them too far to consider what's left for round 2 value. Very possible this could happen.
Stay tuned...
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