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  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    Not to get in to Watson.  I think we all know the status of that.  I'll just say I think he can be a top tier QB.

    After that, I think we are solid with Winston and Huntley in the back-up roles. I don't think we could do much better in that department.  I will say that Robinson could be kept as the 3rd QB.  I think Huntley could be used as trade bait if some other team deems it necessary to bring in more help at QB. Huntley is more of a back-up QB than a 3rd QB.

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    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @ballpeen said:

    Not to get in to Watson.  I think we all know the status of that.  I'll just say I think he can be a top tier QB.

    Really? 

    I mean, I hope you are right. I hope he gets back to his 2018-2020 form, when he was easily a top 5 NFL QB. But man, three seasons have come and gone, he's still hated throughout the NFL (and a sizable portion of the Browns fanbase), he's coming off a throwing shoulder injury and we'll see if the Browns have actually made the offense fit his skill-set. 

    We'll see soon enough, but I'm not optimistic we'll ever see THAT Watson again. 

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      @ballpeen said:

      Not to get in to Watson.  I think we all know the status of that.  I'll just say I think he can be a top tier QB.

      Really? 

      I mean, I hope you are right. I hope he gets back to his 2018-2020 form, when he was easily a top 5 NFL QB. But man, three seasons have come and gone, he's still hated throughout the NFL (and a sizable portion of the Browns fanbase), he's coming off a throwing shoulder injury and we'll see if the Browns have actually made the offense fit his skill-set. 

      We'll see soon enough, but I'm not optimistic we'll ever see THAT Watson again. 

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      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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      @dutch-oven said:

      Really? 

      I mean, I hope you are right. I hope he gets back to his 2018-2020 form, when he was easily a top 5 NFL QB. But man, three seasons have come and gone, he's still hated throughout the NFL (and a sizable portion of the Browns fanbase), he's coming off a throwing shoulder injury and we'll see if the Browns have actually made the offense fit his skill-set. 

      We'll see soon enough, but I'm not optimistic we'll ever see THAT Watson again. 

      I think the hate factor is overblown.  I don't think most fans care anymore.  The loudest doesn't make a majority.

      Only 2 seasons have passed.  The first was the suspension season and last season was derailed with an injury.

      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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        @dutch-oven said:

        Really? 

        I mean, I hope you are right. I hope he gets back to his 2018-2020 form, when he was easily a top 5 NFL QB. But man, three seasons have come and gone, he's still hated throughout the NFL (and a sizable portion of the Browns fanbase), he's coming off a throwing shoulder injury and we'll see if the Browns have actually made the offense fit his skill-set. 

        We'll see soon enough, but I'm not optimistic we'll ever see THAT Watson again. 

        I think the hate factor is overblown.  I don't think most fans care anymore.  The loudest doesn't make a majority.

        Only 2 seasons have passed.  The first was the suspension season and last season was derailed with an injury.

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        @ballpeen said:

        I think the hate factor is overblown.  I don't think most fans care anymore.  The loudest doesn't make a majority.

        Only 2 seasons have passed.  The first was the suspension season and last season was derailed with an injury.

        Three seasons have passed since his last really good season in 2020.

        He sat out 2021 trying to get traded from Houston. He got traded to the Browns prior to the 2022 season, sat out 11 games via the suspension, then played the final six. Started six games last season. 

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          ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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          I don't care about seasons he had elsewhere.  I am commenting on him being a Brown's player.

          If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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            @ballpeen said:

            Not to get in to Watson.  I think we all know the status of that.  I'll just say I think he can be a top tier QB.

            Really? 

            I mean, I hope you are right. I hope he gets back to his 2018-2020 form, when he was easily a top 5 NFL QB. But man, three seasons have come and gone, he's still hated throughout the NFL (and a sizable portion of the Browns fanbase), he's coming off a throwing shoulder injury and we'll see if the Browns have actually made the offense fit his skill-set. 

            We'll see soon enough, but I'm not optimistic we'll ever see THAT Watson again. 

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            @dutch-oven said:

            he's still hated throughout the NFL (and a sizable portion of the Browns fanbase)

            Sure he's hated in Houston...but I don't know how much the rest of the NFL gives him a 2nd thought anymore.  As for the Browns fans that don't like him / hate him, it's up to them to find a way through this.  Perhaps they take a hiatus from the Browns / football until his time in Cleveland is over.  Me, I don't particularly like him.  And I've played team sports with a guy (or 2) that I didn't particularly like...but that means nothing when you're playing the game.  At that point it's more like war...and they're on your side.  And even if you don't like him, if he's good, you don't want him traded.

            Having said that, if the guy doesn't play well (or just plain stinks), then that's a different way to 'not like him'.  And if that's the case then I don't care if the guy is Tim Tebow (an honest to God good guy), I'd want him off the team.  

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              @dutch-oven said:

              he's still hated throughout the NFL (and a sizable portion of the Browns fanbase)

              Sure he's hated in Houston...but I don't know how much the rest of the NFL gives him a 2nd thought anymore.  As for the Browns fans that don't like him / hate him, it's up to them to find a way through this.  Perhaps they take a hiatus from the Browns / football until his time in Cleveland is over.  Me, I don't particularly like him.  And I've played team sports with a guy (or 2) that I didn't particularly like...but that means nothing when you're playing the game.  At that point it's more like war...and they're on your side.  And even if you don't like him, if he's good, you don't want him traded.

              Having said that, if the guy doesn't play well (or just plain stinks), then that's a different way to 'not like him'.  And if that's the case then I don't care if the guy is Tim Tebow (an honest to God good guy), I'd want him off the team.  

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              @orion said:

              Sure he's hated in Houston...but I don't know how much the rest of the NFL gives him a 2nd thought anymore.  As for the Browns fans that don't like him / hate him, it's up to them to find a way through this.  Perhaps they take a hiatus from the Browns / football until his time in Cleveland is over.  Me, I don't particularly like him.  And I've played team sports with a guy (or 2) that I didn't particularly like...but that means nothing when you're playing the game.  At that point it's more like war...and they're on your side.  And even if you don't like him, if he's good, you don't want him traded.

              Having said that, if the guy doesn't play well (or just plain stinks), then that's a different way to 'not like him'.  And if that's the case then I don't care if the guy is Tim Tebow (an honest to God good guy), I'd want him off the team.  

              My point regarding that is that most players, regardless of sport, don't like being "the bad guy". 

              Most players aren't built to be Bill Laimbeer or Draymond Green...

              It can affect players. 

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                @orion said:

                Sure he's hated in Houston...but I don't know how much the rest of the NFL gives him a 2nd thought anymore.  As for the Browns fans that don't like him / hate him, it's up to them to find a way through this.  Perhaps they take a hiatus from the Browns / football until his time in Cleveland is over.  Me, I don't particularly like him.  And I've played team sports with a guy (or 2) that I didn't particularly like...but that means nothing when you're playing the game.  At that point it's more like war...and they're on your side.  And even if you don't like him, if he's good, you don't want him traded.

                Having said that, if the guy doesn't play well (or just plain stinks), then that's a different way to 'not like him'.  And if that's the case then I don't care if the guy is Tim Tebow (an honest to God good guy), I'd want him off the team.  

                My point regarding that is that most players, regardless of sport, don't like being "the bad guy". 

                Most players aren't built to be Bill Laimbeer or Draymond Green...

                It can affect players. 

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                @dutch-oven said:

                My point regarding that is that most players, regardless of sport, don't like being "the bad guy".   True.  But some cherish it.

                Most players aren't built to be Bill Laimbeer or Draymond Green...

                It can affect players.  Yeah, it can affect good guys.

                My current opinion of Watson is that he doesn't fit either category.  He doesn't revel in being the bad guy.  And I don't think he has the sense to feel the self disappointment that an actual good guy would feel.  I think that he feels that if people don't like him for what he's done, then it's their job to get over it.  And in reality, it is.   I mean, guys aren't brought to our team to sing in the church choir.  -  Many years ago I was talking to the company VP and his wife at a company picnic.  He told me that they knew Bill Nelson.  He said that he really wasn't a super nice guy.  But his wife chimed in and said, actually he was kind of an ass.  The kind of sad, bottom line for us is can he play well and win football games.

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                  @dutch-oven said:

                  he's still hated throughout the NFL (and a sizable portion of the Browns fanbase)

                  Sure he's hated in Houston...but I don't know how much the rest of the NFL gives him a 2nd thought anymore.  As for the Browns fans that don't like him / hate him, it's up to them to find a way through this.  Perhaps they take a hiatus from the Browns / football until his time in Cleveland is over.  Me, I don't particularly like him.  And I've played team sports with a guy (or 2) that I didn't particularly like...but that means nothing when you're playing the game.  At that point it's more like war...and they're on your side.  And even if you don't like him, if he's good, you don't want him traded.

                  Having said that, if the guy doesn't play well (or just plain stinks), then that's a different way to 'not like him'.  And if that's the case then I don't care if the guy is Tim Tebow (an honest to God good guy), I'd want him off the team.  

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                  @orion said:

                  As for the Browns fans that don't like him / hate him, it's up to them to find a way through this.

                  Hey! I'm in that boat. I don't care at all about what he did off the field. If Chairman Mao could rush for 2000 yards, I'd be calling for us to draft him. Problem is that I don't think his shoulder is ever going to be the same. 

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                    Deshaun Watson reveals more information about the revamped

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                      @dutch-oven said:

                      My point regarding that is that most players, regardless of sport, don't like being "the bad guy".   True.  But some cherish it.

                      Most players aren't built to be Bill Laimbeer or Draymond Green...

                      It can affect players.  Yeah, it can affect good guys.

                      My current opinion of Watson is that he doesn't fit either category.  He doesn't revel in being the bad guy.  And I don't think he has the sense to feel the self disappointment that an actual good guy would feel.  I think that he feels that if people don't like him for what he's done, then it's their job to get over it.  And in reality, it is.   I mean, guys aren't brought to our team to sing in the church choir.  -  Many years ago I was talking to the company VP and his wife at a company picnic.  He told me that they knew Bill Nelson.  He said that he really wasn't a super nice guy.  But his wife chimed in and said, actually he was kind of an ass.  The kind of sad, bottom line for us is can he play well and win football games.

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                      @orion said:

                      My current opinion of Watson is that he doesn't fit either category.  He doesn't revel in being the bad guy.  And I don't think he has the sense to feel the self disappointment that an actual good guy would feel.  I think that he feels that if people don't like him for what he's done, then it's their job to get over it.  And in reality, it is.   I mean, guys aren't brought to our team to sing in the church choir.  -  Many years ago I was talking to the company VP and his wife at a company picnic.  He told me that they knew Bill Nelson.  He said that he really wasn't a super nice guy.  But his wife chimed in and said, actually he was kind of an ass.  The kind of sad, bottom line for us is can he play well and win football games.

                      That "Yeah, it can affect good guys."  you added to Dutch's comment had me spittin up coffee...

                      I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                        @orion said:

                        My current opinion of Watson is that he doesn't fit either category.  He doesn't revel in being the bad guy.  And I don't think he has the sense to feel the self disappointment that an actual good guy would feel.  I think that he feels that if people don't like him for what he's done, then it's their job to get over it.  And in reality, it is.   I mean, guys aren't brought to our team to sing in the church choir.  -  Many years ago I was talking to the company VP and his wife at a company picnic.  He told me that they knew Bill Nelson.  He said that he really wasn't a super nice guy.  But his wife chimed in and said, actually he was kind of an ass.  The kind of sad, bottom line for us is can he play well and win football games.

                        That "Yeah, it can affect good guys."  you added to Dutch's comment had me spittin up coffee...

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                        @flugel said:

                        That "Yeah, it can affect good guys."  you added to Dutch's comment had me spittin up coffee...

                        lol....sorry....as long as it didn't come out your nose.  🙂  

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                          Teams Eyeing Browns Backup QB

                          Cleveland fielding offers on Dorian Thompson-Robinson (The Athletic)

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                            Teams Eyeing Browns Backup QB

                            Cleveland fielding offers on Dorian Thompson-Robinson (The Athletic)

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                            Teams Eyeing Browns Backup QB

                            Cleveland fielding offers on Dorian Thompson-Robinson (The Athletic)

                            I just saw this myself and read the little blurb in the Athletic about it. They’re speculating they may try to trade for an experienced OLineman.

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                              @syd said:

                              Teams Eyeing Browns Backup QB

                              Cleveland fielding offers on Dorian Thompson-Robinson (The Athletic)

                              I just saw this myself and read the little blurb in the Athletic about it. They’re speculating they may try to trade for an experienced OLineman.

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                              @ibleedbrown said:

                              I just saw this myself and read the little blurb in the Athletic about it. They’re speculating they may try to trade for an experienced OLineman.

                              I would rather trade Huntly and keep DTR. But if we tried to stash him on the PS. would he make it through waivers ?

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                                I just saw this myself and read the little blurb in the Athletic about it. They’re speculating they may try to trade for an experienced OLineman.

                                I would rather trade Huntly and keep DTR. But if we tried to stash him on the PS. would he make it through waivers ?

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                                I would rather trade Huntly and keep DTR. But if we tried to stash him on the PS. would he make it through waivers ?

                                Probably not if teams are considering trading for him.  I’d like to see him stick around too. 

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                                  If teams are inquiring about DTR then the only way to keep him will be to carry 3 QB's.  

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                                    I wouldn't trade DTR unless some team is over paying. 5 year starter in college, a few games started his rookie year. 

                                    Here's hoping Watson plays well and they don't have to rely on any backups.

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                                      if we traded him now we would be getting pennies on the dollar for him.

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                                        I wouldn't trade DTR unless some team is over paying. 5 year starter in college, a few games started his rookie year. 

                                        Here's hoping Watson plays well and they don't have to rely on any backups.

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                                        @bob806 said:

                                        I wouldn't trade DTR unless some team is over paying.

                                        @syd said:

                                        if we traded him now we would be getting pennies on the dollar for him.

                                        OK...but what are you going to do with him?  

                                        We have 4 QB's on the team.  Who stays?  Who goes?  

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                                          @bob806 said:

                                          I wouldn't trade DTR unless some team is over paying.

                                          @syd said:

                                          if we traded him now we would be getting pennies on the dollar for him.

                                          OK...but what are you going to do with him?  

                                          We have 4 QB's on the team.  Who stays?  Who goes?  

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                                          @orion said:

                                          OK...but what are you going to do with him?  

                                          We have 4 QB's on the team.  Who stays?  Who goes?  

                                          I dunno ? I hear Watson's  throwing shoulder is sore and may not play vs seattle. What happens in a few weeks when we face dallas ? can Watson play ? 

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