Press Release from the Cleveland Browns
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Damn, I've had season tickets since 1979, always tailgate in the Flats near the Flat Iron, & hardly ever have issues with traffic. It's about a 1 mile walk back to the truck from the stadium, so by the time I get back there, rarely do I have to wait to get out (right up the Columbus Rd. hill). Just my opinion, West siders going to the Muni Lot make it harder on themselves as you put yourself in the worst parking situation imaginable for Cleveland.
I go to Guardians and Browns games on a somewhat regular basis.
It's not really that difficult to get in and out, but then again, I'm not trying to go to the most popular pregame spot before Browns games.
But I'm sure Brookpark will be a breeze. ?
I go to Guardians and Browns games on a somewhat regular basis.
It's not really that difficult to get in and out, but then again, I'm not trying to go to the most popular pregame spot before Browns games.
But I'm sure Brookpark will be a breeze. ?
It may not be a breeze, but it will be easier than exiting downtown or getting to the game. Downtown you almost always have to exit your lot the opposite direction than you want to go unless you want to wait a long time to get a gap to cut across a lane. You can zig zag you way around, but it takes forever.
As with Bob, I parked in the flats as well. It worked out fine until the Waterfront line was closed for 3-4 years. I didn't like the walk up the steep incline. Even Columbus was hard to get a left on to W25th. I figured out other ways out of the flats...Scranton Rd somehow got me to a pint I could head to the hotel....I think the cut over was Valentine Rd....half the time i wasn't totally sure and turned where i saw other cars turning..It worked 70% of the time. The other 30% turned in to a cuss fest.
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Damn, I've had season tickets since 1979, always tailgate in the Flats near the Flat Iron, & hardly ever have issues with traffic. It's about a 1 mile walk back to the truck from the stadium, so by the time I get back there, rarely do I have to wait to get out (right up the Columbus Rd. hill). Just my opinion, West siders going to the Muni Lot make it harder on themselves as you put yourself in the worst parking situation imaginable for Cleveland.
I go to Guardians and Browns games on a somewhat regular basis.
It's not really that difficult to get in and out, but then again, I'm not trying to go to the most popular pregame spot before Browns games.
But I'm sure Brookpark will be a breeze. ?
I go to Guardians and Browns games on a somewhat regular basis
I'd 'assume' (since I don't 'know') that larger crowds of Browns games would make for longer exit times.
...another good thing of The Patriots Train, it pulls away from the stadium 30 min after the game ends. No train traffic.
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I go to Guardians and Browns games on a somewhat regular basis
I'd 'assume' (since I don't 'know') that larger crowds of Browns games would make for longer exit times.
...another good thing of The Patriots Train, it pulls away from the stadium 30 min after the game ends. No train traffic.
I'd 'assume' (since I don't 'know') that larger crowds of Browns games would make for longer exit times.
...another good thing of The Patriots Train, it pulls away from the stadium 30 min after the game ends. No train traffic.
It's way easier to leave a Guardians game.
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I know it's a bit apples to oranges, but I recently went to a Falcons game at their new stadium. They clearly made it to be more an "experience" than just going to throw back some beers and watch football, and it was very enjoyable. Things to do for kids, fun outdoor activities (not just sitting at your trunk with beers), etc etc.
I get it- I fondly remember about 15 years ago of going to Carolina Panthers game with my brother and just pregaming out of the car, cooking up hot dogs, etc. But with the cost to do anything nowadays (and of course having two kids), I want to feel like the experience is worth it and get that "bang for your buck". As much as its a mixed bag, I think this whole thing makes a lot of sense. Hell, I will 100x more inclined to travel to a few games as opposed to the current stadium situation.
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I go to Guardians and Browns games on a somewhat regular basis
I'd 'assume' (since I don't 'know') that larger crowds of Browns games would make for longer exit times.
...another good thing of The Patriots Train, it pulls away from the stadium 30 min after the game ends. No train traffic.
I'd 'assume' (since I don't 'know') that larger crowds of Browns games would make for longer exit times.
...another good thing of The Patriots Train, it pulls away from the stadium 30 min after the game ends. No train traffic.
I mentioned going to Browns games.
And we park halfway between Progressive Field and Browns Stadium. It's not that all that horrible to get out of town after the game.
Honestly, Brookpark is what the Haslams want, and I feel like throwing a billion dollars at a quickly and relatively cheaply built Cleveland Browns Stadium would end up being a really questionable fiscal decision. I'd rather the Browns built a dome in downtown, but that isn't going to happen either.
One way or another, this whole process should be interesting to watch go down.
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Very interesting video, and I've been saying what the guys on here are saying - the Browns were never staying downtown. They'll play the game with the City of Cleveland for leverage, but a Jimmy World 2.0 has always been what the Haslams have wanted, and you can't do that in a landlocked downtown.
Also, almost in passing, they mentioned the Guardians new minority owner (who eventually could/will end up being the majority owner) who is rumored to have big plans around Progressive Field. There's a chance that the area around the ballpark could look very different in a decade, since he bought up a good portion of it. "Ballpark Villages" are the rage with pro owners.
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Thanks for the offer, but
Yup. Saw this elsewhere earlier today. The back-burner stadium saga continues.
The back-burner stadium saga continues.
Apparently the heat was set to high on that back burner.
A little bit ago someone here (Dutch?) mentioned that if a new stadium was going to be built (in or out of the city) then it's actually time to be starting the process.
I saw where there's a train station / stop right at that spot on a map. Handy.
I think it'll be better for the football team in terms of players' willingness to come to the Browns. No more playing in cold, wet and/or freezing conditions. That's what matters to me...since I live far away the other events that could be held there are meaningless.
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The back-burner stadium saga continues.
Apparently the heat was set to high on that back burner.
A little bit ago someone here (Dutch?) mentioned that if a new stadium was going to be built (in or out of the city) then it's actually time to be starting the process.
I saw where there's a train station / stop right at that spot on a map. Handy.
I think it'll be better for the football team in terms of players' willingness to come to the Browns. No more playing in cold, wet and/or freezing conditions. That's what matters to me...since I live far away the other events that could be held there are meaningless.
Apparently the heat was set to high on that back burner.
A little bit ago someone here (Dutch?) mentioned that if a new stadium was going to be built (in or out of the city) then it's actually time to be starting the process.
I saw where there's a train station / stop right at that spot on a map. Handy.
I think it'll be better for the football team in terms of players' willingness to come to the Browns. No more playing in cold, wet and/or freezing conditions. That's what matters to me...since I live far away the other events that could be held there are meaningless.
In the video I or syd posted (I watched both, can't remember which one) it is mentioned that ground could be broke next year, which I think would put the first season at 2028.
I think you are right, I think having a dome would help some in getting free agents. Regarding "the other events", it will be interesting to see how the area would be built up. I'm guessing you've never been to that area, but it's not exactly "happening". Think a beat-up four lane road with porn shops and fast food places.
I'm looking forward to some real honest-to-dog drawings of what this dome and area would look like. I'm also interested in seeing how this affects the other two relatively close NFL teams - the Steelers and Bengals. I have a feeling if the Browns end up with this state-of-the-art new dome surrounded by a "ballpark village", those teams are going to look at their 20+ year old stadiums and start telling everyone how "antiquated" they are too.
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Apparently the heat was set to high on that back burner.
A little bit ago someone here (Dutch?) mentioned that if a new stadium was going to be built (in or out of the city) then it's actually time to be starting the process.
I saw where there's a train station / stop right at that spot on a map. Handy.
I think it'll be better for the football team in terms of players' willingness to come to the Browns. No more playing in cold, wet and/or freezing conditions. That's what matters to me...since I live far away the other events that could be held there are meaningless.
In the video I or syd posted (I watched both, can't remember which one) it is mentioned that ground could be broke next year, which I think would put the first season at 2028.
I think you are right, I think having a dome would help some in getting free agents. Regarding "the other events", it will be interesting to see how the area would be built up. I'm guessing you've never been to that area, but it's not exactly "happening". Think a beat-up four lane road with porn shops and fast food places.
I'm looking forward to some real honest-to-dog drawings of what this dome and area would look like. I'm also interested in seeing how this affects the other two relatively close NFL teams - the Steelers and Bengals. I have a feeling if the Browns end up with this state-of-the-art new dome surrounded by a "ballpark village", those teams are going to look at their 20+ year old stadiums and start telling everyone how "antiquated" they are too.
it will be interesting to see how the area would be built up. I'm guessing you've never been to that area, but it's not exactly "happening". Think a beat-up four lane road with porn shops and fast food places.
The truck stops that Jimmuh's Dad and he took over went from dumpy dives to Truck Stop Villa's. Foxborough is a no place type of place....except now there's Patriot's Place. It's an attraction on it's own....and ya don't have to fight your way into Boston to go there...people go there just for the sake of going there. Now, if the Pat's turn into mush...and aren't too good for a bunch of years...I don't know how many will be attracted to Patriot's Place.
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it will be interesting to see how the area would be built up. I'm guessing you've never been to that area, but it's not exactly "happening". Think a beat-up four lane road with porn shops and fast food places.
The truck stops that Jimmuh's Dad and he took over went from dumpy dives to Truck Stop Villa's. Foxborough is a no place type of place....except now there's Patriot's Place. It's an attraction on it's own....and ya don't have to fight your way into Boston to go there...people go there just for the sake of going there. Now, if the Pat's turn into mush...and aren't too good for a bunch of years...I don't know how many will be attracted to Patriot's Place.
The truck stops that Jimmuh's Dad and he took over went from dumpy dives to Truck Stop Villa's. Foxborough is a no place type of place....except now there's Patriot's Place. It's an attraction on it's own....and ya don't have to fight your way into Boston to go there...people go there just for the sake of going there. Now, if the Pat's turn into mush...and aren't too good for a bunch of years...I don't know how many will be attracted to Patriot's Place.
You've mentioned how tough it is to drive in Boston and why Patriots Place in the suburbs is nice multiple times.
Driving in Cleveland isn't anything like Boston though. It generally isn't a huge ordeal.
But hey, different strokes, different folks.
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The truck stops that Jimmuh's Dad and he took over went from dumpy dives to Truck Stop Villa's. Foxborough is a no place type of place....except now there's Patriot's Place. It's an attraction on it's own....and ya don't have to fight your way into Boston to go there...people go there just for the sake of going there. Now, if the Pat's turn into mush...and aren't too good for a bunch of years...I don't know how many will be attracted to Patriot's Place.
You've mentioned how tough it is to drive in Boston and why Patriots Place in the suburbs is nice multiple times.
Driving in Cleveland isn't anything like Boston though. It generally isn't a huge ordeal.
But hey, different strokes, different folks.
Driving in Cleveland isn't anything like Boston though. It generally isn't a huge ordeal.
I'm certain you're right. I shouldn't be comparing Boston...but then, I don't even like going into Providence...and it's only 4 miles from me.
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it will be interesting to see how the area would be built up. I'm guessing you've never been to that area, but it's not exactly "happening". Think a beat-up four lane road with porn shops and fast food places.
The truck stops that Jimmuh's Dad and he took over went from dumpy dives to Truck Stop Villa's. Foxborough is a no place type of place....except now there's Patriot's Place. It's an attraction on it's own....and ya don't have to fight your way into Boston to go there...people go there just for the sake of going there. Now, if the Pat's turn into mush...and aren't too good for a bunch of years...I don't know how many will be attracted to Patriot's Place.
The truck stops that Jimmuh's Dad and he took over went from dumpy dives to Truck Stop Villa's. Foxborough is a no place type of place....except now there's Patriot's Place. It's an attraction on it's own....and ya don't have to fight your way into Boston to go there...people go there just for the sake of going there. Now, if the Pat's turn into mush...and aren't too good for a bunch of years...I don't know how many will be attracted to Patriot's Place.
Yep, and there is some decent money on that side of town. It will draw in people who have some money to spend.
It there was a place downtown to buiod, they probably would have. The problem was there isn't. The only places they could go would have been the fringes of the city on the east side and that isn't the target audience. Money is limited and crime is a problem.
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