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  • This is a pile of Opossum Jism

    If the Browns win all these jackoff "must wins" They would lose 8 games and most likely miss the playoffs.

    So then, the games you didn't place importance on, in essence are the "must wins".

    CONVERSELY.....If the Browns won all the NON MUST WINS, they would only need to win 3 or 4 of your NINE must wins to get into the playoffs.

    So, you see how idiotic your mental masturbation fantasy about must win games is?

    I realize that it is football season and people love to talk about football, but for the love of naked Nigerians, you guys need to stop with all this asshole statistics and analytical nonsense.

    The only game that is a must win, is the game a team is engaged in.

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    This is a pile of Opossum Jism

    If the Browns win all these jackoff "must wins" They would lose 8 games and most likely miss the playoffs.

    So then, the games you didn't place importance on, in essence are the "must wins".

    CONVERSELY.....If the Browns won all the NON MUST WINS, they would only need to win 3 or 4 of your NINE must wins to get into the playoffs.

    So, you see how idiotic your mental masturbation fantasy about must win games is?

    I realize that it is football season and people love to talk about football, but for the love of naked Nigerians, you guys need to stop with all this asshole statistics and analytical nonsense.

    The only game that is a must win, is the game a team is engaged in.

    Damn Skippy

  • This is a pile of Opossum Jism

    If the Browns win all these jackoff "must wins" They would lose 8 games and most likely miss the playoffs.

    So then, the games you didn't place importance on, in essence are the "must wins".

    CONVERSELY.....If the Browns won all the NON MUST WINS, they would only need to win 3 or 4 of your NINE must wins to get into the playoffs.

    So, you see how idiotic your mental masturbation fantasy about must win games is?

    I realize that it is football season and people love to talk about football, but for the love of naked Nigerians, you guys need to stop with all this asshole statistics and analytical nonsense.

    The only game that is a must win, is the game a team is engaged in.

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    So, you see how idiotic your mental masturbation fantasy about must win games is?

    Every year I look at the games that we 'should win', and play 50/50 with everyone else.  For MANY years there weren't too many games that we 'should win' with absolutely no chance of playing 50/50 with the rest.  Recent years have been different however.  Our season is not over after this loss.  Nor next week's.  

  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    So, you see how idiotic your mental masturbation fantasy about must win games is?

    Every year I look at the games that we 'should win', and play 50/50 with everyone else.  For MANY years there weren't too many games that we 'should win' with absolutely no chance of playing 50/50 with the rest.  Recent years have been different however.  Our season is not over after this loss.  Nor next week's.  

    @orion said:

    Every year I look at the games that we 'should win', and play 50/50 with everyone else.  For MANY years there weren't too many games that we 'should win' with absolutely no chance of playing 50/50 with the rest.  Recent years have been different however.  Our season is not over after this loss.  Nor next week's.  

    The season is not over? LMAO, buddy, are you out of your fucking mind?

    I have never run a football team, but I have taken charge of work forces in my life, and I can tell you first hand what is wrong with the Browns.

    It has nothing to do with football, talent, play calling or analytics. There is no "regrouping" or fixing things during the week here.

    For as long as we can remember, the  Browns V 2.0 have made and continue to male penalties, drop balls, miss blocks and tackles.

    The reason for this is because the team does not have a head coach. It does not have a leader. It flounders just like a child in a fatherless house flounders. There is nobody in Cleveland at which the buck stops. You can say whatever the fuck you want to say, but Kevin Stefanski is not the mother fucking head coach of the Cleveland Browns.

    His players continue to be lackadaisical because they see what happens within the organization. They see that he constantly has his strings pulled by a puppet master. Bill Cowher, Bill Parcells, Vince Lombardi, or Bill Belichick would never tolerate this kind of shit football week after week, year after year. Until Haslam has a head coach that is the very highest executive on the franchise he is never going to have a winner

    Until the Browns head coach is the guy where the buck stops, this ridiculous bullshit will continue.

    Whether it is a corporate team, a Girl Scout cookie selling team, or a sports team, if there is not a father figure if there is not a badass at the top of the totem pole, there will never be success. There is no fucking way anybody can take a look at Kevin Stefanski and say to themselves boy this guy is really in charge.

  • @orion said:

    Every year I look at the games that we 'should win', and play 50/50 with everyone else.  For MANY years there weren't too many games that we 'should win' with absolutely no chance of playing 50/50 with the rest.  Recent years have been different however.  Our season is not over after this loss.  Nor next week's.  

    The season is not over? LMAO, buddy, are you out of your fucking mind?

    I have never run a football team, but I have taken charge of work forces in my life, and I can tell you first hand what is wrong with the Browns.

    It has nothing to do with football, talent, play calling or analytics. There is no "regrouping" or fixing things during the week here.

    For as long as we can remember, the  Browns V 2.0 have made and continue to male penalties, drop balls, miss blocks and tackles.

    The reason for this is because the team does not have a head coach. It does not have a leader. It flounders just like a child in a fatherless house flounders. There is nobody in Cleveland at which the buck stops. You can say whatever the fuck you want to say, but Kevin Stefanski is not the mother fucking head coach of the Cleveland Browns.

    His players continue to be lackadaisical because they see what happens within the organization. They see that he constantly has his strings pulled by a puppet master. Bill Cowher, Bill Parcells, Vince Lombardi, or Bill Belichick would never tolerate this kind of shit football week after week, year after year. Until Haslam has a head coach that is the very highest executive on the franchise he is never going to have a winner

    Until the Browns head coach is the guy where the buck stops, this ridiculous bullshit will continue.

    Whether it is a corporate team, a Girl Scout cookie selling team, or a sports team, if there is not a father figure if there is not a badass at the top of the totem pole, there will never be success. There is no fucking way anybody can take a look at Kevin Stefanski and say to themselves boy this guy is really in charge.

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    For as long as we can remember, the  Browns V 2.0 have made and continue to male penalties, drop balls, miss blocks and tackles.

    The reason for this is because the team does not have a head coach. It does not have a leader. It flounders just like a child in a fatherless house flounders. There is nobody in Cleveland at which the buck stops. You can say whatever the fuck you want to say, but Kevin Stefanski is not the mother fucking head coach of the Cleveland Browns.

    His players continue to be lackadaisical because they see what happens within the organization. They see that he constantly has his strings pulled by a puppet master. Bill Cowher, Bill Parcells, Vince Lombardi, or Bill Belichick would never tolerate this kind of shit football week after week, year after year. Until Haslam has a head coach that is the very highest executive on the franchise he is never going to have a winner

    Until the Browns head coach is the guy where the buck stops, this ridiculous bullshit will continue.

    Whether it is a corporate team, a Girl Scout cookie selling team, or a sports team, if there is not a father figure if there is not a badass at the top of the totem pole, there will never be success. There is no fucking way anybody can take a look at Kevin Stefanski and say to themselves boy this guy is really in charge.

    I completely agree with your angle. I disagree that Stefanski can't be the man. I believe he needs to step up and be the man.

    You didn't use the word so I don't want to put it in your mouth. I believe players see micromanagement. The players are smart enough, or should be smart enough, to know that when a man is hired for a job he needs to be trusted to do the job. And lack of trust in any team or organization is disastrous. 

    I believe ownership oversteps their bounds and meddles. I believe analytics department (Depo) oversteps his bounds and meddles. There are analtyics to football but they are not related to the sabermetrics(matrices) of baseball.

    A room full of alphas want to be able to look to the front of the room to the big dog alpha, the head coach, and know that he's not being manipulated by the FO and ownership. And I agree, they see the manipulation. 

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    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    For as long as we can remember, the  Browns V 2.0 have made and continue to male penalties, drop balls, miss blocks and tackles.

    The reason for this is because the team does not have a head coach. It does not have a leader. It flounders just like a child in a fatherless house flounders. There is nobody in Cleveland at which the buck stops. You can say whatever the fuck you want to say, but Kevin Stefanski is not the mother fucking head coach of the Cleveland Browns.

    His players continue to be lackadaisical because they see what happens within the organization. They see that he constantly has his strings pulled by a puppet master. Bill Cowher, Bill Parcells, Vince Lombardi, or Bill Belichick would never tolerate this kind of shit football week after week, year after year. Until Haslam has a head coach that is the very highest executive on the franchise he is never going to have a winner

    Until the Browns head coach is the guy where the buck stops, this ridiculous bullshit will continue.

    Whether it is a corporate team, a Girl Scout cookie selling team, or a sports team, if there is not a father figure if there is not a badass at the top of the totem pole, there will never be success. There is no fucking way anybody can take a look at Kevin Stefanski and say to themselves boy this guy is really in charge.

    I completely agree with your angle. I disagree that Stefanski can't be the man. I believe he needs to step up and be the man.

    You didn't use the word so I don't want to put it in your mouth. I believe players see micromanagement. The players are smart enough, or should be smart enough, to know that when a man is hired for a job he needs to be trusted to do the job. And lack of trust in any team or organization is disastrous. 

    I believe ownership oversteps their bounds and meddles. I believe analytics department (Depo) oversteps his bounds and meddles. There are analtyics to football but they are not related to the sabermetrics(matrices) of baseball.

    A room full of alphas want to be able to look to the front of the room to the big dog alpha, the head coach, and know that he's not being manipulated by the FO and ownership. And I agree, they see the manipulation. 

    @ap1 said:

    I completely agree with your angle. I disagree that Stefanski can't be the man. I believe he needs to step up and be the man.

    You didn't use the word so I don't want to put it in your mouth. I believe players see micromanagement. The players are smart enough, or should be smart enough, to know that when a man is hired for a job he needs to be trusted to do the job. And lack of trust in any team or organization is disastrous. 

    I believe ownership oversteps their bounds and meddles. I believe analytics department (Depo) oversteps his bounds and meddles. There are analtyics to football but they are not related to the sabermetrics(matrices) of baseball.

    A room full of alphas want to be able to look to the front of the room to the big dog alpha, the head coach, and know that he's not being manipulated by the FO and ownership. And I agree, they see the manipulation. 

  • A AP1

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    For as long as we can remember, the  Browns V 2.0 have made and continue to male penalties, drop balls, miss blocks and tackles.

    The reason for this is because the team does not have a head coach. It does not have a leader. It flounders just like a child in a fatherless house flounders. There is nobody in Cleveland at which the buck stops. You can say whatever the fuck you want to say, but Kevin Stefanski is not the mother fucking head coach of the Cleveland Browns.

    His players continue to be lackadaisical because they see what happens within the organization. They see that he constantly has his strings pulled by a puppet master. Bill Cowher, Bill Parcells, Vince Lombardi, or Bill Belichick would never tolerate this kind of shit football week after week, year after year. Until Haslam has a head coach that is the very highest executive on the franchise he is never going to have a winner

    Until the Browns head coach is the guy where the buck stops, this ridiculous bullshit will continue.

    Whether it is a corporate team, a Girl Scout cookie selling team, or a sports team, if there is not a father figure if there is not a badass at the top of the totem pole, there will never be success. There is no fucking way anybody can take a look at Kevin Stefanski and say to themselves boy this guy is really in charge.

    I completely agree with your angle. I disagree that Stefanski can't be the man. I believe he needs to step up and be the man.

    You didn't use the word so I don't want to put it in your mouth. I believe players see micromanagement. The players are smart enough, or should be smart enough, to know that when a man is hired for a job he needs to be trusted to do the job. And lack of trust in any team or organization is disastrous. 

    I believe ownership oversteps their bounds and meddles. I believe analytics department (Depo) oversteps his bounds and meddles. There are analtyics to football but they are not related to the sabermetrics(matrices) of baseball.

    A room full of alphas want to be able to look to the front of the room to the big dog alpha, the head coach, and know that he's not being manipulated by the FO and ownership. And I agree, they see the manipulation. 

    @ap1 said:

     I disagree that Stefanski can't be the man. I believe he needs to step up and be the man.

    Thanks for the response, brother. I in turn, disagree with you.

    A person doesn't just decide one day to be a leader. A man is either an alpha or a beta.

    Many here get mad at my insistance that DePodesta calls the plays and runs the team, however, Grossi reported at the time that Stefanski was willing to give up some of a head coach's responsibilities in order to get the job.

    That in itself eliminated him as the right guy. Can you imagine Cowher, Belichik, Lombardi, Madden, or Brown accepting such a job?

    Stefanski is not a leader. He is a weak man. There is no magic that can all of a sudden give him balls.

    Many here also cry out, "what can he do, he is not the owner?" These are people, no disrespect, who have spent their lives revering the rules, cowtowing to management, and biting their tongue in order to save their job.

    The world needs drones; worker bees, if you will. However, worker bees don't become billionaires. Worker bees don't change the world.

    People who achieve great things are largely ego maniacal, self-centered, intolerable pricks who don't.give a shit to hear anything other than what they believe in.

    Haslam is a weak man. He is a buffoon. He is buffaloed by an analytical egghead who have never won a fucking thing in his life. 

    Again, there are only two possibilities.

    1) Stefanski is a horrible head coach.

    2) Stefa ski does not have the balls to risk his job, put Haslam in his place, and stop watching his team and fans be humiliated and embarrassed.

    Either way, Stefanski is a loser. 

    The only reason he has a job is because management fears it will be too hard to find another coffee fetcher.

    Stefanski is a coffee fetcher.

  • @ap1 said:

     I disagree that Stefanski can't be the man. I believe he needs to step up and be the man.

    Thanks for the response, brother. I in turn, disagree with you.

    A person doesn't just decide one day to be a leader. A man is either an alpha or a beta.

    Many here get mad at my insistance that DePodesta calls the plays and runs the team, however, Grossi reported at the time that Stefanski was willing to give up some of a head coach's responsibilities in order to get the job.

    That in itself eliminated him as the right guy. Can you imagine Cowher, Belichik, Lombardi, Madden, or Brown accepting such a job?

    Stefanski is not a leader. He is a weak man. There is no magic that can all of a sudden give him balls.

    Many here also cry out, "what can he do, he is not the owner?" These are people, no disrespect, who have spent their lives revering the rules, cowtowing to management, and biting their tongue in order to save their job.

    The world needs drones; worker bees, if you will. However, worker bees don't become billionaires. Worker bees don't change the world.

    People who achieve great things are largely ego maniacal, self-centered, intolerable pricks who don't.give a shit to hear anything other than what they believe in.

    Haslam is a weak man. He is a buffoon. He is buffaloed by an analytical egghead who have never won a fucking thing in his life. 

    Again, there are only two possibilities.

    1) Stefanski is a horrible head coach.

    2) Stefa ski does not have the balls to risk his job, put Haslam in his place, and stop watching his team and fans be humiliated and embarrassed.

    Either way, Stefanski is a loser. 

    The only reason he has a job is because management fears it will be too hard to find another coffee fetcher.

    Stefanski is a coffee fetcher.

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Thanks for the response, brother. I in turn, disagree with you.

    A person doesn't just decide one day to be a leader. A man is either an alpha or a beta. AGREE

    Many here get mad at my insistance that DePodesta calls the plays and runs the team, however, Grossi reported at the time that Stefanski was willing to give up some of a head coach's responsibilities in order to get the job.

    That in itself eliminated him as the right guy. Can you imagine Cowher, Belichik, Lombardi, Madden, or Brown accepting such a job? THEY WOULD NOT ACCEPT SUCH A JON

    Stefanski is not a leader. He is a weak man. There is no magic that can all of a sudden give him balls.

    Many here also cry out, "what can he do, he is not the owner?" These are people, no disrespect, who have spent their lives revering the rules, cowtowing to management, and biting their tongue in order to save their job. AGREE

    The world needs drones; worker bees, if you will. However, worker bees don't become billionaires. Worker bees don't change the world. AGREE

    People who achieve great things are largely ego maniacal, self-centered, intolerable pricks who don't.give a shit to hear anything other than what they believe in. I BELIEVE THEY REFUSE TO BE DETERRED FROM WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN

    Haslam is a weak man. He is a buffoon. He is buffaloed by an analytical egghead who have never won a fucking thing in his life. IT DRIVES ME NUTS THAT DEPODESTA HAS HASLAM'S NUTS IN A JAR ON HIS DESK.

    Again, there are only two possibilities.

    1) Stefanski is a horrible head coach.

    2) Stefa ski does not have the balls to risk his job, put Haslam in his place, and stop watching his team and fans be humiliated and embarrassed. AGREED, 100%

    Either way, Stefanski is a loser. 

    The only reason he has a job is because management fears it will be too hard to find another coffee fetcher. WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE 

    Stefanski is a coffee fetcher.

    Good is the enemy of great. And this is the most good the Browns 2.0 have been. That has made me view this with a different lens then I'd normally view things.

  • A AP1

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Thanks for the response, brother. I in turn, disagree with you.

    A person doesn't just decide one day to be a leader. A man is either an alpha or a beta. AGREE

    Many here get mad at my insistance that DePodesta calls the plays and runs the team, however, Grossi reported at the time that Stefanski was willing to give up some of a head coach's responsibilities in order to get the job.

    That in itself eliminated him as the right guy. Can you imagine Cowher, Belichik, Lombardi, Madden, or Brown accepting such a job? THEY WOULD NOT ACCEPT SUCH A JON

    Stefanski is not a leader. He is a weak man. There is no magic that can all of a sudden give him balls.

    Many here also cry out, "what can he do, he is not the owner?" These are people, no disrespect, who have spent their lives revering the rules, cowtowing to management, and biting their tongue in order to save their job. AGREE

    The world needs drones; worker bees, if you will. However, worker bees don't become billionaires. Worker bees don't change the world. AGREE

    People who achieve great things are largely ego maniacal, self-centered, intolerable pricks who don't.give a shit to hear anything other than what they believe in. I BELIEVE THEY REFUSE TO BE DETERRED FROM WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN

    Haslam is a weak man. He is a buffoon. He is buffaloed by an analytical egghead who have never won a fucking thing in his life. IT DRIVES ME NUTS THAT DEPODESTA HAS HASLAM'S NUTS IN A JAR ON HIS DESK.

    Again, there are only two possibilities.

    1) Stefanski is a horrible head coach.

    2) Stefa ski does not have the balls to risk his job, put Haslam in his place, and stop watching his team and fans be humiliated and embarrassed. AGREED, 100%

    Either way, Stefanski is a loser. 

    The only reason he has a job is because management fears it will be too hard to find another coffee fetcher. WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE 

    Stefanski is a coffee fetcher.

    Good is the enemy of great. And this is the most good the Browns 2.0 have been. That has made me view this with a different lens then I'd normally view things.

    @ap1 said:

    Good is the enemy of great. And this is the most good the Browns 2.0 have been. That has made me view this with a different lens then I'd normally view things.

    Think about Bernie Kosar. Approaching 70, battered and worn out. Yet, if Stefanski asked him to start, he would.

    That is the spirit the Browns were built on. Haslam has no earthly.concept.of this.

  • @ap1 said:

    Good is the enemy of great. And this is the most good the Browns 2.0 have been. That has made me view this with a different lens then I'd normally view things.

    Think about Bernie Kosar. Approaching 70, battered and worn out. Yet, if Stefanski asked him to start, he would.

    That is the spirit the Browns were built on. Haslam has no earthly.concept.of this.

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Think about Bernie Kosar. Approaching 70, battered and worn out. Yet, if Stefanski asked him to start, he would.

    That is the spirit the Browns were built on. Haslam has no earthly.concept.of this.

    Bernie is over a year older than I am but I agree with you bro!

    BK.JPG

  • @orion said:

    Every year I look at the games that we 'should win', and play 50/50 with everyone else.  For MANY years there weren't too many games that we 'should win' with absolutely no chance of playing 50/50 with the rest.  Recent years have been different however.  Our season is not over after this loss.  Nor next week's.  

    The season is not over? LMAO, buddy, are you out of your fucking mind?

    I have never run a football team, but I have taken charge of work forces in my life, and I can tell you first hand what is wrong with the Browns.

    It has nothing to do with football, talent, play calling or analytics. There is no "regrouping" or fixing things during the week here.

    For as long as we can remember, the  Browns V 2.0 have made and continue to male penalties, drop balls, miss blocks and tackles.

    The reason for this is because the team does not have a head coach. It does not have a leader. It flounders just like a child in a fatherless house flounders. There is nobody in Cleveland at which the buck stops. You can say whatever the fuck you want to say, but Kevin Stefanski is not the mother fucking head coach of the Cleveland Browns.

    His players continue to be lackadaisical because they see what happens within the organization. They see that he constantly has his strings pulled by a puppet master. Bill Cowher, Bill Parcells, Vince Lombardi, or Bill Belichick would never tolerate this kind of shit football week after week, year after year. Until Haslam has a head coach that is the very highest executive on the franchise he is never going to have a winner

    Until the Browns head coach is the guy where the buck stops, this ridiculous bullshit will continue.

    Whether it is a corporate team, a Girl Scout cookie selling team, or a sports team, if there is not a father figure if there is not a badass at the top of the totem pole, there will never be success. There is no fucking way anybody can take a look at Kevin Stefanski and say to themselves boy this guy is really in charge.

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Until Haslam has a head coach that is the very highest executive on the franchise he is never going to have a winner

    Wrong.  The HC and GM have to work as a team.  But when it comes right down it, they each have to stay in their lane.  

  • @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    Until Haslam has a head coach that is the very highest executive on the franchise he is never going to have a winner

    Wrong.  The HC and GM have to work as a team.  But when it comes right down it, they each have to stay in their lane.  

    @orion said:

    Wrong.  The HC and GM have to work as a team.  But when it comes right down it, they each have to stay in their lane.  

    Horseshit. The job of a GM is to bring coffee to the HC.

    ShitMyPantski brings coffee to Depodesta.