This just in: PJ Walker not claimed off waivers
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I think its pretty apparent where your allegiance would lie if you weren't an "outsider", but that's a cute play of "I just moseyed on over and took a look around and my oh my!"... That or you feel a kindred spirit with that "specific group" and felt a need to defend it. One or the other. ?
And I didn't give a shit what those people thought in 2016, or now.
Allegiance to what? To whom?
I am not an anti-Trumper, so now I belong to "ThEm." What a laughably simplistic world view. I got news for you: most of the world doesn't give a damn about Trump or the US in general.
I could write about the parallels I see between things going on in The Netherlands, where I am from, or the rest of western Europe. That would require a mature open-minded discussion on culture and politics, which you show no indication of wanting to have. An attitude like that is what creates an "echo chamber," which is what I was pointing out in the first place.
I leave this discussion with a parting gift, some recommended reading: The Virtue of Nationalism by Israeli-American philosopher Yoram Hazony. It provides a background for the Trump election, and similar electoral results in Europe including Brexit. Globalism versus nationalism is THE dichotomy of our time. Not left/ right, liberal/ conservative, Rep/ Dem and so on. And certainly not pro- or anti-Trump ffs.
Back to football. Go Browns!
Back to football. Go Browns!
Thank you.
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Here's what a doctor says about Watson's injury.
And you'll notice that, when asked about the prognosis, the only thing he firmly commits to is that Watson will be cleared to throw in a year. That doc's a lot more uncertain when it comes to how well he'll throw. We don't know if Watson's injury is a Bankart lesion. We don't know how much of the glenoid is affected. What I learned is that Brees and Darnold had similar injuries, but even he is speculating that Watson's injury is worse.
And you'll notice that, when asked about the prognosis, the only thing he firmly commits to is that Watson will be cleared to throw in a year. That doc's a lot more uncertain when it comes to how well he'll throw. We don't know if Watson's injury is a Bankart lesion. We don't know how much of the glenoid is affected. What I learned is that Brees and Darnold had similar injuries, but even he is speculating that Watson's injury is worse.
Like I've said before, I don't discount the idea that this injury could affect Watson's future.
I just figured I would post an actual doctor talking about the actual injury Watson suffered, just for more info for everyone.
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I think its pretty apparent where your allegiance would lie if you weren't an "outsider", but that's a cute play of "I just moseyed on over and took a look around and my oh my!"... That or you feel a kindred spirit with that "specific group" and felt a need to defend it. One or the other. ?
And I didn't give a shit what those people thought in 2016, or now.
Allegiance to what? To whom?
I am not an anti-Trumper, so now I belong to "ThEm." What a laughably simplistic world view. I got news for you: most of the world doesn't give a damn about Trump or the US in general.
I could write about the parallels I see between things going on in The Netherlands, where I am from, or the rest of western Europe. That would require a mature open-minded discussion on culture and politics, which you show no indication of wanting to have. An attitude like that is what creates an "echo chamber," which is what I was pointing out in the first place.
I leave this discussion with a parting gift, some recommended reading: The Virtue of Nationalism by Israeli-American philosopher Yoram Hazony. It provides a background for the Trump election, and similar electoral results in Europe including Brexit. Globalism versus nationalism is THE dichotomy of our time. Not left/ right, liberal/ conservative, Rep/ Dem and so on. And certainly not pro- or anti-Trump ffs.
Back to football. Go Browns!
Allegiance to what? To whom?
I am not an anti-Trumper, so now I belong to "ThEm." What a laughably simplistic world view. I got news for you: most of the world doesn't give a damn about Trump or the US in general.
I could write about the parallels I see between things going on in The Netherlands, where I am from, or the rest of western Europe. That would require a mature open-minded discussion on culture and politics, which you show no indication of wanting to have. An attitude like that is what creates an "echo chamber," which is what I was pointing out in the first place.
I leave this discussion with a parting gift, some recommended reading: The Virtue of Nationalism by Israeli-American philosopher Yoram Hazony. It provides a background for the Trump election, and similar electoral results in Europe including Brexit. Globalism versus nationalism is THE dichotomy of our time. Not left/ right, liberal/ conservative, Rep/ Dem and so on. And certainly not pro- or anti-Trump ffs.
Back to football. Go Browns!
Nothing says "most of the world doesn't care about Trump or the US in general" and "I have no dog in this fight" like immediately doing a deep dive into the conversation you tell us you don't care about and definitely wasn't triggered by... ?
And when you go to the Poliboard for another one of your "random strolls", make sure to say hi to the mature and open-minded gents wearing red hats there for me. ?
But of course, go Browns.
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There are not discussions there. Just fanatical traitor supporters. LOL!?
It's not like calling someone a traitor is in any way enabling a discussion, and your response just proves my point about anti-Trumpers. Very unfortunate.
It's not like calling someone a traitor is in any way enabling a discussion, and your response just proves my point about anti-Trumpers. Very unfortunate.
You apparently haven't spent enough time on the Poli Board to fully grasp it KD..... There's several posters here who refuse to post there. FWIW, there's really no "discussion" going on there.
Without getting into too many details, If you have a certain POV, you're one of their Cult. Try to play in their sandbox with an opposing POV, and get ready for a barrage of ad hominum attacks, libtard, or in my case a "drunk". So please tell me how THAT enables intelligent discussion. It's essentially a Forum of unmoderated & mostly unverifiable conspiracy bullshit.
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It's not like calling someone a traitor is in any way enabling a discussion, and your response just proves my point about anti-Trumpers. Very unfortunate.
You apparently haven't spent enough time on the Poli Board to fully grasp it KD..... There's several posters here who refuse to post there. FWIW, there's really no "discussion" going on there.
Without getting into too many details, If you have a certain POV, you're one of their Cult. Try to play in their sandbox with an opposing POV, and get ready for a barrage of ad hominum attacks, libtard, or in my case a "drunk". So please tell me how THAT enables intelligent discussion. It's essentially a Forum of unmoderated & mostly unverifiable conspiracy bullshit.
You apparently haven't spent enough time on the Poli Board to fully grasp it KD..... There's several posters here who refuse to post there. FWIW, there's really no "discussion" going on there.
Without getting into too many details, If you have a certain POV, you're one of their Cult. Try to play in their sandbox with an opposing POV, and get ready for a barrage of ad hominum attacks, libtard, or in my case a "drunk". So please tell me how THAT enables intelligent discussion. It's essentially a Forum of unmoderated & mostly unverifiable conspiracy bullshit.
I appreciate the thoughtful response. I will give a final non-Football reply here, since I do not intend to start posting on the other board, and nobody really cares about PJ anyway.
The only reason I wound up here on TBB, was my search for a place to talk with others who serious in their support of the Browns. The ONLY reason I am even aware of the poliboard, is the regular mocking posts thereof by Dutch and a few others here on the football side of things. I literally only had a quick look around some topics, and didn't find anything offensive. Just pro Trump, which I do not have a problem with. I do not intend to look any further. Name-calling certainly does not further discussion as you say, and I have no respect for it. However, I will say that if someone called me a traitor, my response would be worse than "drunk." It goes both ways.
I found the support for Israel heartwarming even, living in a world where 300,000 Arab and other muslim migrants can go out on the streets of London, and scant 'Itbah Al-Yahud' or 'Khaybar ya Yahod' which means slaughter the Jews. And we have seen similar such examples in formerly western cities around the world. These followed the October 7 attacks in Israel, which were the most vile and reprehensible I can remember in my lifetime. I find this beyond appalling, yet many people and news outlets keep making up excuses. Those I would call traitors, but I digress.
Whether you like it or not, the fact remains that about half of Americans voted for Trump twice, and despite his apparent faults, he is significantly out-polling Biden, and anyone on the GOP side by miles. If I were American, and disagreed with him and his voters, I would be hell-bent on finding out why.
The book I recommended should give the ones interested some insight, with the dichotomy between globalism and nationalism as a framework. 'America first' obviously makes the 2016 election a victory for nationalism. This was preceded by Brexit, and followed by elections in, France, Italy and more recently in The Netherlands. All massive victories for nationalism, which surprisingly, still come as a surprise to some. The book explains it better than I ever could.
The point of all this was already made in my first response to Dutch: it would be beneficial for people in general to have places where meaningful discussions about their views on culture and politics can be had. It requires being open to hear views you might disagree with. Dismissing those views beforehand is what creates 'echo chambers.'
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@dutch-oven, @hoorta, @korsou-dawg
Still think I'm full of shit?
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@dutch-oven, @hoorta, @korsou-dawg
Still think I'm full of shit?
@dutch-oven, @hoorta, @korsou-dawg
Still think I'm full of shit?
I don't think they know that you are an actual doctor.
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@dutch-oven, @hoorta, @korsou-dawg
Still think I'm full of shit?
I don't think they know that you are an actual doctor.
I don't think they know that you are an actual doctor.
A doctor you say ? hmm any idea wtf DR Trail is talking about ?
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Never said he wasn't a nice guy.
Genuinely think only circumstance should allow him on our practice squad though, and he should have never played a minute. DTR should be on our practice squad, because he has talent, but he needs practice.
Next year, I am gunning for: QB1: Watson, QB2: Flacco, QB3: DTR
Watson's career is over. He's going to stick it out because $150M, but the dude's shoulder is never going to be the same. He already had a noodle arm before the glenoid broke. I've never seen any case reports of a throwing athlete coming back from this injury to his throwing arm. If we get rid of Flacco, I'm going to lose my mind.
Watson's career is over. He's going to stick it out because $150M, but the dude's shoulder is never going to be the same. He already had a noodle arm before the glenoid broke. I've never seen any case reports of a throwing athlete coming back from this injury to his throwing arm. If we get rid of Flacco, I'm going to lose my mind.
Called it, absolutely.
I was giving him a chance to come back but even at work watching the game, I couldn't actually watch it because the Browns just looked bad. There was nothing to feel good about on offense, and now I'm worried about our D.
I look forward to this weekend to see how Watson does one last time, after this if he doesn't perform better than Weeden then I'll be waiting for the next qb to step in.
Same with running back, unless the line isn't making holes, Ford stops and hesitates too much form me.
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@dutch-oven, @hoorta, @korsou-dawg
Still think I'm full of shit?
@dutch-oven, @hoorta, @korsou-dawg
Still think I'm full of shit?
What the hell are you whining about?
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