★ Favorite Quotes (and more) from Paul Brown ★ Nice thread.
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Paul Brown paid no attention to race, and brought several African-American players onto the team at a time when many northern schools excluded them. ( see below and throughout this biography of Paul Brown .)
<-- Brown convinced Massillon Washington officials to build a new, bigger football stadium. Completed in 1939, the -->
--> facility is named Paul Brown Tiger Stadium. We thank those responsible for your work on this. -->
--> In his first season at Massillon, Brown's team posted a 5-4-1 record, better than the previous year but far from Brown's exacting standards --> AND --> The Tigers improved again in 1933, ending with an 8-2 record but losing to their chief rivals, the Canton McKinley High School Bulldogs. --> IN 1934, Massillon won ALL OF IT'S games until a 21–6 defeat to Canton in the final game of the season. As the pressure on Brown grew to turn the tables on Canton, Massillon finally accomplished the feat the following year in an undefeated season, the first of many with Brown at the helm.
--> By then .... Brown had put his system into place: a strict, systematic approach to coaching combined with a well-organized recruitment network that drew promising young players from Massillon's junior high school football program.
( Also from above, why he won BIG ! ) He paid no attention to race, and brought several African-American players onto the team at a time when many northern schools excluded them.
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Paul Brown ( from his career Highlights ). Greatest coach of all time ? You decide.
Career history As a coach: -
Severn School (MD) (1930–1931)
Head coach -
Massillon Washington HS (OH) (1932–1940)
Head coach -
Ohio State (1941–1943)
Head coach -
Great Lakes Navy (1944–1945)
Head coach -
Cleveland Browns (1946–1962)
Head coach -
Cincinnati Bengals (1968–1975)
Head coach
As an executive: -
Cleveland Browns (1946–1962)
General manager & part-owner -
Cleveland Browns (1963)
Vice president -
Cincinnati Bengals (1968–1991)
Owner & president
Career highlights and awards - SO, You decide greatest coach (executive) "GOAT" ? - 3× NFL champion (1950, 1954, 1955)
- AP NFL Coach of the Year (1970)
- 3× UPI NFL Coach of the Year[broken anchor] (1957, 1969, 1970)
- AP AFL Coach of the Year (1969)
- 3× Sporting News Coach of the Year (1949, 1951, 1953)
- NFL 100th Anniversary All-Time Team
- 4× AAFC champion (1946–1949)
- Cleveland Browns Ring of Honor
- Cincinnati Bengals Ring of Honor
- NCAA national champion (1942)
- 4× High school national champion (1935, 1936, 1939, 1940)
Head coaching record Regular season: 213–104–9 (.667) Postseason: 9–8 (.529) Career: 33–13–3 (.704) (college)
222–112–9 (.660) (pro)Coaching stats at PFR Executive profile at PFR Paul Brown ( from his career Highlights ). Greatest coach of all time ? You decide.
Career history As a coach: -
Severn School (MD) (1930–1931)
Head coach -
Massillon Washington HS (OH) (1932–1940)
Head coach -
Ohio State (1941–1943)
Head coach -
Great Lakes Navy (1944–1945)
Head coach -
Cleveland Browns (1946–1962)
Head coach -
Cincinnati Bengals (1968–1975)
Head coach
As an executive: -
Cleveland Browns (1946–1962)
General manager & part-owner -
Cleveland Browns (1963)
Vice president -
Cincinnati Bengals (1968–1991)
Owner & president
Career highlights and awards - SO, You decide greatest coach (executive) "GOAT" ? - 3× NFL champion (1950, 1954, 1955)
- AP NFL Coach of the Year (1970)
- 3× UPI NFL Coach of the Year[broken anchor] (1957, 1969, 1970)
- AP AFL Coach of the Year (1969)
- 3× Sporting News Coach of the Year (1949, 1951, 1953)
- NFL 100th Anniversary All-Time Team
- 4× AAFC champion (1946–1949)
- Cleveland Browns Ring of Honor
- Cincinnati Bengals Ring of Honor
- NCAA national champion (1942)
- 4× High school national champion (1935, 1936, 1939, 1940)
Head coaching record Regular season: 213–104–9 (.667) Postseason: 9–8 (.529) Career: 33–13–3 (.704) (college)
222–112–9 (.660) (pro)Coaching stats at PFR Executive profile at PFR Thanks for sharing that MJP! The only very slight nit-pick is it doesn't show how many High School Football State Championships he won. I say that because doing this in 2 different states is very impressive. In 1930, it was his 1st year as the Head Football Coach at Severn High School in Maryland where they went undefeated and won the State HS Football Championship. The next year they went 5-2-1 before he jumped at the chance to coach Massillon Washington High School in Ohio in 1932 in the same town he was raised in. There his team won 5 State HS Football Championships between 1935 and 1940 under his tutelage as well as 4 HS Football National Championships (listed above). Very important to that area - his teams beat the Canton McKinley Bulldogs the last 6 seasons they squared off with Brown on the sidelines.
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Severn School (MD) (1930–1931)
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Paul Brown ( from his career Highlights ). Greatest coach of all time ? You decide.
Career history As a coach: -
Severn School (MD) (1930–1931)
Head coach -
Massillon Washington HS (OH) (1932–1940)
Head coach -
Ohio State (1941–1943)
Head coach -
Great Lakes Navy (1944–1945)
Head coach -
Cleveland Browns (1946–1962)
Head coach -
Cincinnati Bengals (1968–1975)
Head coach
As an executive: -
Cleveland Browns (1946–1962)
General manager & part-owner -
Cleveland Browns (1963)
Vice president -
Cincinnati Bengals (1968–1991)
Owner & president
Career highlights and awards - SO, You decide greatest coach (executive) "GOAT" ? - 3× NFL champion (1950, 1954, 1955)
- AP NFL Coach of the Year (1970)
- 3× UPI NFL Coach of the Year[broken anchor] (1957, 1969, 1970)
- AP AFL Coach of the Year (1969)
- 3× Sporting News Coach of the Year (1949, 1951, 1953)
- NFL 100th Anniversary All-Time Team
- 4× AAFC champion (1946–1949)
- Cleveland Browns Ring of Honor
- Cincinnati Bengals Ring of Honor
- NCAA national champion (1942)
- 4× High school national champion (1935, 1936, 1939, 1940)
Head coaching record Regular season: 213–104–9 (.667) Postseason: 9–8 (.529) Career: 33–13–3 (.704) (college)
222–112–9 (.660) (pro)Coaching stats at PFR Executive profile at PFR Thanks for sharing that MJP! The only very slight nit-pick is it doesn't show how many High School Football State Championships he won. I say that because doing this in 2 different states is very impressive. In 1930, it was his 1st year as the Head Football Coach at Severn High School in Maryland where they went undefeated and won the State HS Football Championship. The next year they went 5-2-1 before he jumped at the chance to coach Massillon Washington High School in Ohio in 1932 in the same town he was raised in. There his team won 5 State HS Football Championships between 1935 and 1940 under his tutelage as well as 4 HS Football National Championships (listed above). Very important to that area - his teams beat the Canton McKinley Bulldogs the last 6 seasons they squared off with Brown on the sidelines.
Thanks for sharing that MJP! The only very slight nit-pick is it doesn't show how many High School Football State Championships he won. I say that because doing this in 2 different states is very impressive. In 1930, it was his 1st year as the Head Football Coach at Severn High School in Maryland where they went undefeated and won the State HS Football Championship. The next year they went 5-2-1 before he jumped at the chance to coach Massillon Washington High School in Ohio in 1932 in the same town he was raised in. There his team won 5 State HS Football Championships between 1935 and 1940 under his tutelage as well as 4 HS Football National Championships (listed above). Very important to that area - his teams beat the Canton McKinley Bulldogs the last 6 seasons they squared off with Brown on the sidelines.
I have always paid some attention to a very important part of NE OHIO -and- OHIO FOOTBALL in general whether it is Cleveland -or- Akron -or- Massillion / Canton -or- the other fine other towns -and- cities like Toleto, COLUMBUS -or- CINCINNATI -around- this fine. ★ HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RICH STATE OF ● OH-IO ● .
Whether it Is NORTH - SOUTH - EAST - or WEST of this glorious - STATE of OHIO - we love our HIGH SCHOOL, COLLEGE -and professionaal football -at- ALL LEVELS ! No doubt about that.
︎. As a product of the 1960s NILES McKinley Football system specifically in the years of 1965 to 1967 in HIGH SCHOOL ( See the HIGH SCHOOL Forums here on TBB. )
AND the NILES 1961 & 1963 OHIO CHAMPIONSHIPS also on the TBB here.
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Thanks, from mjp ... 
︎ ... continued here. ︎-->
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Severn School (MD) (1930–1931)
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I'm going to share some quotes I like from a legendary football coach that won State Championships in Ohio and Maryland before winning a National Championship at Ohio State. After that, he led the Cleveland Browns to 10 consecutive Pro Football Championship Games and remarkably won 7 of those. If that's not enough, it was their 1st 10 years as a franchise from 1946-1955. Here's a cut and paste of my favorite quotes I found from Paul Brown that are applicable to a lot more than just football via Google:
Paul Brown Quotes- When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less...
- You can learn a line from a win and a book from a defeat. Paul Brown.
- A winner never whines. Paul Brown.
- The key to winning is poise under stress. Paul Brown.
- What we have currently available is what we have available...
- Football is a game of errors.
I'm going to share some quotes I like from a legendary football coach that won State Championships in Ohio and Maryland before winning a National Championship at Ohio State. After that, he led the Cleveland Browns to 10 consecutive Pro Football Championship Games and remarkably won 7 of those. If that's not enough, it was their 1st 10 years as a franchise from 1946-1955. Here's a cut and paste of my favorite quotes I found from Paul Brown that are applicable to a lot more than just football via Google:
Paul Brown Quotes- When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less...
- You can learn a line from a win and a book from a defeat. Paul Brown.
- A winner never whines. Paul Brown.
- The key to winning is poise under stress. Paul Brown.
- What we have currently available is what we have available...
- Football is a game of errors.
there is serendipity between Paul Brown and a young Naval recruit and player Bud Grant for then coach Paul Browns Great Lakes Naval Training Station Illinois team (1945)
then later on as the Mn Vikings HC, Bud Grant was usually quoted saying "when you score a TD ACT as if youve been there "
not knocking having fun and exuberance for the moment, he Im sure wanted to tamp down the individual glory over the team play
(have times changed)
I cant help but wonder that he got that while playing for coach PB.
Bud Grant passed away March 11 2023 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_Grant
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I would say Paul Brown and Tom Landry are the two most memorable NFL head coaches to be fired.
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I'm going to share some quotes I like from a legendary football coach that won State Championships in Ohio and Maryland before winning a National Championship at Ohio State. After that, he led the Cleveland Browns to 10 consecutive Pro Football Championship Games and remarkably won 7 of those. If that's not enough, it was their 1st 10 years as a franchise from 1946-1955. Here's a cut and paste of my favorite quotes I found from Paul Brown that are applicable to a lot more than just football via Google:
Paul Brown Quotes- When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less...
- You can learn a line from a win and a book from a defeat. Paul Brown.
- A winner never whines. Paul Brown.
- The key to winning is poise under stress. Paul Brown.
- What we have currently available is what we have available...
- Football is a game of errors.
there is serendipity between Paul Brown and a young Naval recruit and player Bud Grant for then coach Paul Browns Great Lakes Naval Training Station Illinois team (1945)
then later on as the Mn Vikings HC, Bud Grant was usually quoted saying "when you score a TD ACT as if youve been there "
not knocking having fun and exuberance for the moment, he Im sure wanted to tamp down the individual glory over the team play
(have times changed)
I cant help but wonder that he got that while playing for coach PB.
Bud Grant passed away March 11 2023 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_Grant
there is serendipity between Paul Brown and a young Naval recruit and player Bud Grant for then coach Paul Browns Great Lakes Naval Training Station Illinois team (1945)
then later on as the Mn Vikings HC, Bud Grant was usually quoted saying "when you score a TD ACT as if youve been there "
not knocking having fun and exuberance for the moment, he Im sure wanted to tamp down the individual glory over the team play
(have times changed)
I cant help but wonder that he got that while playing for coach PB.
Bud Grant passed away March 11 2023 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_Grant
Yeah, it looked like he took a lot of important parts of winning he learned under Paul Brown with him into his coaching experience. Bud Grant was a great HC!
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"Paul Brown played a role in breaking the color barrier." True, and he for sure should be lauded for that. But there were black players in the NFL since the 20s. There was some bans on black players after the 20s until 1946.
"Teams in the North rejected black players." More so in the south.
I realize the Browns had their first black player in 1946. But they did not have a black QB until 1977.
By comparison, the Packers had the first black QB ever in the NFL in 1955.
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I would say Paul Brown and Tom Landry are the two most memorable NFL head coaches to be fired.
I would say Paul Brown and Tom Landry are the two most memorable NFL head coaches to be fired.
How true.
A quote from the late, great Coach "Bum" Phillips former Houston Oilers coach :
" There's only TWO kinds of coaches. .... those that have been fired -and- those that are going to be. "
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"Paul Brown played a role in breaking the color barrier." True, and he for sure should be lauded for that. But there were black players in the NFL since the 20s. There was some bans on black players after the 20s until 1946.
"Teams in the North rejected black players." More so in the south.
I realize the Browns had their first black player in 1946. But they did not have a black QB until 1977.
By comparison, the Packers had the first black QB ever in the NFL in 1955.
"Paul Brown played a role in breaking the color barrier." True, and he for sure should be lauded for that. But there were black players in the NFL since the 20s. There was some bans on black players after the 20s until 1946.
"Teams in the North rejected black players." More so in the south.
I realize the Browns had their first black player in 1946. But they did not have a black QB until 1977.
By comparison, the Packers had the first black QB ever in the NFL in 1955.
Believe it or not, I went to the game where Joe Turkey Jones slammed Terry Bradshaw and the Browns won. Having said that, back-up QB David Mays filled in for Sipe that day and got the win. He was a black QB (who was also a Dentist before or after his short stint with the Browns). Their Head Coach that year was a former GB Packer - Forrest Gregg. The Browns finished with a 9-5 record and did NOT make the playoffs that year. That was kind of like the 2007 Browns that had a 10-6 record and didn't make the Playoffs.
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"Paul Brown played a role in breaking the color barrier." True, and he for sure should be lauded for that. But there were black players in the NFL since the 20s. There was some bans on black players after the 20s until 1946.
"Teams in the North rejected black players." More so in the south.
I realize the Browns had their first black player in 1946. But they did not have a black QB until 1977.
By comparison, the Packers had the first black QB ever in the NFL in 1955.
Believe it or not, I went to the game where Joe Turkey Jones slammed Terry Bradshaw and the Browns won. Having said that, back-up QB David Mays filled in for Sipe that day and got the win. He was a black QB (who was also a Dentist before or after his short stint with the Browns). Their Head Coach that year was a former GB Packer - Forrest Gregg. The Browns finished with a 9-5 record and did NOT make the playoffs that year. That was kind of like the 2007 Browns that had a 10-6 record and didn't make the Playoffs.
Believe it or not, I went to the game where Joe Turkey Jones slammed Terry Bradshaw and the Browns won. Having said that, back-up QB David Mays filled in for Sipe that day and got the win. He was a black QB (who was also a Dentist before or after his short stint with the Browns). Their Head Coach that year was a former GB Packer - Forrest Gregg. The Browns finished with a 9-5 record and did NOT make the playoffs that year. That was kind of like the 2007 Browns that had a 10-6 record and didn't make the Playoffs.
Forrest was a great player for the Pack. He was head coach in Green Bay for 4 years about 10 years after you guys had him. The only good thing about Forrest as a coach was his extreme hate for Ditka and the Bears. Forrest and Ditka had an actual fight in the tunnel going in for halftime of a preseason game.?
Dave Mays never started any games for the Browns? I think he played in Buffalo after the Browns.
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It was always funny when Forrest Gregg got brought up to Doug Dieken on his and Jimmy Donovan's Browns recap show. (Which sadly isn't on now)
He hated Gregg something fierce. Safe to say he wasn't a big fan of his coaching style. ?
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It was always funny when Forrest Gregg got brought up to Doug Dieken on his and Jimmy Donovan's Browns recap show. (Which sadly isn't on now)
He hated Gregg something fierce. Safe to say he wasn't a big fan of his coaching style. ?
It was always funny when Forrest Gregg got brought up to Doug Dieken on his and Jimmy Donovan's Browns recap show. (Which sadly isn't on now)
He hated Gregg something fierce. Safe to say he wasn't a big fan of his coaching style. ?
I heard that was pretty consistent among the players at the time. He wasn't here long from 75-77.
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Believe it or not, I went to the game where Joe Turkey Jones slammed Terry Bradshaw and the Browns won. Having said that, back-up QB David Mays filled in for Sipe that day and got the win. He was a black QB (who was also a Dentist before or after his short stint with the Browns). Their Head Coach that year was a former GB Packer - Forrest Gregg. The Browns finished with a 9-5 record and did NOT make the playoffs that year. That was kind of like the 2007 Browns that had a 10-6 record and didn't make the Playoffs.
Forrest was a great player for the Pack. He was head coach in Green Bay for 4 years about 10 years after you guys had him. The only good thing about Forrest as a coach was his extreme hate for Ditka and the Bears. Forrest and Ditka had an actual fight in the tunnel going in for halftime of a preseason game.?
Dave Mays never started any games for the Browns? I think he played in Buffalo after the Browns.
Forrest was a great player for the Pack. He was head coach in Green Bay for 4 years about 10 years after you guys had him. The only good thing about Forrest as a coach was his extreme hate for Ditka and the Bears. Forrest and Ditka had an actual fight in the tunnel going in for halftime of a preseason game.?
Dave Mays never started any games for the Browns? I think he played in Buffalo after the Browns.
? To the part in bold above. Love him or hate him, Ditka was hilarious! As for Mays, I don't remember too much about him before or after that game in Cleveland.
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In a thread about Paul Brown, I'd be amiss if I didn't say to the out-of-town guys on here that if you ever find yourself in NE Ohio (maybe for a Browns home game road trip) you need to not only hit up the Hall of Fame in Canton (duh) but you need to go next door to Massillon on a Friday night and catch a game at Paul Brown Stadium.
You won't believe you are at a high school game. What a great old stadium, hell, they have a helluva indoor practice facility. As far as I know, the Cincinnati Bengals still don't have one, but this high school does. ? (Edit: Apparently the cheapest team in the NFL finally burst into the 20th century and got themselves a temporary indoor practice facility this season, and are building a permanent one soon. Not sure if it will have indoor plumbing, but baby steps...)
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In a thread about Paul Brown, I'd be amiss if I didn't say to the out-of-town guys on here that if you ever find yourself in NE Ohio (maybe for a Browns home game road trip) you need to not only hit up the Hall of Fame in Canton (duh) but you need to go next door to Massillon on a Friday night and catch a game at Paul Brown Stadium.
You won't believe you are at a high school game. What a great old stadium, hell, they have a helluva indoor practice facility. As far as I know, the Cincinnati Bengals still don't have one, but this high school does. ? (Edit: Apparently the cheapest team in the NFL finally burst into the 20th century and got themselves a temporary indoor practice facility this season, and are building a permanent one soon. Not sure if it will have indoor plumbing, but baby steps...)
In a thread about Paul Browns, I'd be amiss if I didn't say to the out-of-town guys on here that if you ever find yourself in NE Ohio (maybe for a Browns home game road trip) you need to not only hit up the Hall of Fame in Canton (duh) but you need to go next door to Massillon on a Friday night and catch a game at Paul Brown Stadium.
You won't believe you are at a high school game. What a great old stadium, hell, they have a helluva indoor practice facility. As far as I know, the Cincinnati Bengals still don't have one, but this high school does. ?
Wow! That sounds like a great idea for the bucket list in the near future...
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In a thread about Paul Browns, I'd be amiss if I didn't say to the out-of-town guys on here that if you ever find yourself in NE Ohio (maybe for a Browns home game road trip) you need to not only hit up the Hall of Fame in Canton (duh) but you need to go next door to Massillon on a Friday night and catch a game at Paul Brown Stadium.
You won't believe you are at a high school game. What a great old stadium, hell, they have a helluva indoor practice facility. As far as I know, the Cincinnati Bengals still don't have one, but this high school does. ?
Wow! That sounds like a great idea for the bucket list in the near future...
Wow! That sounds like a great idea for the bucket list in the near future...
Yep... Massillon game Friday night, Saturday at the Hall of Fame, Sunday up in Cleveland. Not a bad way to spend a weekend!
I and the rest of the NE Ohio guys are spoiled. Its a fantastic region for football. I've seriously thought of going to a different HS game in NE Ohio every week for a season - hitting up games from Youngstown to Steubenville to Massillon to Cleveland and making a blog about it.
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Wow! That sounds like a great idea for the bucket list in the near future...
Yep... Massillon game Friday night, Saturday at the Hall of Fame, Sunday up in Cleveland. Not a bad way to spend a weekend!
I and the rest of the NE Ohio guys are spoiled. Its a fantastic region for football. I've seriously thought of going to a different HS game in NE Ohio every week for a season - hitting up games from Youngstown to Steubenville to Massillon to Cleveland and making a blog about it.
Yep... Massillon game Friday night, Saturday at the Hall of Fame, Sunday up in Cleveland. Not a bad way to spend a weekend!
I and the rest of the NE Ohio guys are spoiled. Its a fantastic region for football. I've seriously thought of going to a different HS game in NE Ohio every week for a season - hitting up games from Youngstown to Steubenville to Massillon to Cleveland and making a blog about it.
Meatball on Spaghetti, getting one of those REAL pizzas you and others have written about...
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Yep... Massillon game Friday night, Saturday at the Hall of Fame, Sunday up in Cleveland. Not a bad way to spend a weekend!
I and the rest of the NE Ohio guys are spoiled. Its a fantastic region for football. I've seriously thought of going to a different HS game in NE Ohio every week for a season - hitting up games from Youngstown to Steubenville to Massillon to Cleveland and making a blog about it.
Meatball on Spaghetti, getting one of those REAL pizzas you and others have written about...
Meatball on Spaghetti, getting one of those REAL pizzas you and others have written about...
We have some good pizza for sure... but I'm going to New Jersey the first weekend of November, maybe I can talk my cousin into making the trip to Brooklyn to get some of the NYC pizza! Mmmmmmmmmm....
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Meatball on Spaghetti, getting one of those REAL pizzas you and others have written about...
We have some good pizza for sure... but I'm going to New Jersey the first weekend of November, maybe I can talk my cousin into making the trip to Brooklyn to get some of the NYC pizza! Mmmmmmmmmm....
We have some good pizza for sure... but I'm going to New Jersey the first weekend of November, maybe I can talk my cousin into making the trip to Brooklyn to get some of the NYC pizza! Mmmmmmmmmm....
Yeah, why not?
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