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  • In case you wanna re-live the misery…

  • I listened a good segment on #4 today and I think it made a really good point. The OL has played extremely below average and I'm not going to argue that. However, Watson is playing so awfully that he's running into the sacks instead of making the right read on where pressure is coming. I can think of 3 times yesterday where the dude ran into the pressure instead of away from it. The pocket awareness is just gone, gone, gone.

    The second part of the segment was what I feel is happening. Like it or not, the team's life blood runs through the QB position in almost every scenario. You have a guy playing fucking awful, who seemingly doesn't give a shit, and it infects the entire team.

    Lastly, the throws this dude is missing are just absurd. I can't find the clip, but the play Cooper came out for on 3rd down Tillman was country wide open. Like catch the ball and get 15+ more yards. I don't get angry at these clowns any more, but that one was the epitome of this nightmare. Worst QBR in the league for a starter- just insane.

    @jrb12711 said:

    I listened a good segment on #4 today and I think it made a really good point. The OL has played extremely below average and I'm not going to argue that. However, Watson is playing so awfully that he's running into the sacks instead of making the right read on where pressure is coming. I can think of 3 times yesterday where the dude ran into the pressure instead of away from it. The pocket awareness is just gone, gone, gone.

    The second part of the segment was what I feel is happening. Like it or not, the team's life blood runs through the QB position in almost every scenario. You have a guy playing fucking awful, who seemingly doesn't give a shit, and it infects the entire team.

    Lastly, the throws this dude is missing are just absurd. I can't find the clip, but the play Cooper came out for on 3rd down Tillman was country wide open. Like catch the ball and get 15+ more yards. I don't get angry at these clowns any more, but that one was the epitome of this nightmare. Worst QBR in the league for a starter- just insane.

    Yea he’s bad bad, the OL grades low, and Watson grades as the worst in the league.
     

    At least some in the crowd started chanting for Jameis by the 4th. Total shit show

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  • Yes, let's scapegoat Watson and turn a blind eye to the horrible OL, clown play caller and a suspect defense.

    But glad the fan base has someone to blame for another failed season. At least there is that to whine about until the draft.

  • Yes, let's scapegoat Watson and turn a blind eye to the horrible OL, clown play caller and a suspect defense.

    But glad the fan base has someone to blame for another failed season. At least there is that to whine about until the draft.

    @packernation said:

    Yes, let's scapegoat Watson and turn a blind eye to the horrible OL, clown play caller and a suspect defense.

    But glad the fan base has someone to blame for another failed season. At least there is that to whine about until the draft.

    Seriously, eat an entire bag of penises, choke and die. 

  • Yes, let's scapegoat Watson and turn a blind eye to the horrible OL, clown play caller and a suspect defense.

    But glad the fan base has someone to blame for another failed season. At least there is that to whine about until the draft.

    @packernation said:

    Yes, let's scapegoat Watson and turn a blind eye to the horrible OL, clown play caller and a suspect defense.

    But glad the fan base has someone to blame for another failed season. At least there is that to whine about until the draft.

    Multiple things can be true. We had the suspect OL last year, a QB who could hit quick timing routes really made the OL look better - at least not be under the spotlight as much. With Watson last year, this year there has been equal talk about the bad OL.

    Watson can’t read the field pre-snap or post-snap for shit. He can’t call out blocking assignments, can’t read the defense, doesn’t have the power or accuracy for tight windows. The dude is obviously cooked.

    A decent QB would elevate this squad and we saw it last year…he should know what coverage the defense is showing, where his receivers will be and when, know which option his receiver is taking on an option route. Watson has none of that - he’s just winging it. 
     

    Sure the OL, playcalls, receivers could be better - but it’s very obvious that #4 has been the biggest issue with this offense. I mean he’s literally worse than Brandon weeden, on a team that is obviously all around much better than those teams 

  • @packernation said:

    Yes, let's scapegoat Watson and turn a blind eye to the horrible OL, clown play caller and a suspect defense.

    But glad the fan base has someone to blame for another failed season. At least there is that to whine about until the draft.

    Multiple things can be true. We had the suspect OL last year, a QB who could hit quick timing routes really made the OL look better - at least not be under the spotlight as much. With Watson last year, this year there has been equal talk about the bad OL.

    Watson can’t read the field pre-snap or post-snap for shit. He can’t call out blocking assignments, can’t read the defense, doesn’t have the power or accuracy for tight windows. The dude is obviously cooked.

    A decent QB would elevate this squad and we saw it last year…he should know what coverage the defense is showing, where his receivers will be and when, know which option his receiver is taking on an option route. Watson has none of that - he’s just winging it. 
     

    Sure the OL, playcalls, receivers could be better - but it’s very obvious that #4 has been the biggest issue with this offense. I mean he’s literally worse than Brandon weeden, on a team that is obviously all around much better than those teams 

    @bbedward said:

    Multiple things can be true. We had the suspect OL last year, a QB who could hit quick timing routes really made the OL look better - at least not be under the spotlight as much. With Watson last year, this year there has been equal talk about the bad OL.

    Watson can’t read the field pre-snap or post-snap for shit. He can’t call out blocking assignments, can’t read the defense, doesn’t have the power or accuracy for tight windows. The dude is obviously cooked.

    A decent QB would elevate this squad and we saw it last year…he should know what coverage the defense is showing, where his receivers will be and when, know which option his receiver is taking on an option route. Watson has none of that - he’s just winging it. 
     

    Sure the OL, playcalls, receivers could be better - but it’s very obvious that #4 has been the biggest issue with this offense. I mean he’s literally worse than Brandon weeden, on a team that is obviously all around much better than those teams 

    We only saw an old Joe Flacco get off the couch last year and post multiple 300 yard plus game while this ass hat (DeSuck) nurses his shoulder on the sidelines.. .. I'm done with the excuses..

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    Stefanki knows Deshaun is not the problem here.

    Let's get Winston in there, then some here can see what an actual "garbage" QB looks like.

  • Screenshot_20240924-0244073.thumb.png.55f832d615f0cbbfcc827eb481f18b2c.png

    Stefanki knows Deshaun is not the problem here.

    Let's get Winston in there, then some here can see what an actual "garbage" QB looks like.

    @packernation said:

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    Stefanki knows Deshaun is not the problem here.

    Let's get Winston in there, then some here can see what an actual "garbage" QB looks like.

    Watson has the second worst QBR in the season, I’ll take my chances with Winston or DTR to see if they can top it.

  • @packernation said:

    Screenshot_20240924-0244073.thumb.png.55f832d615f0cbbfcc827eb481f18b2c.png

    Stefanki knows Deshaun is not the problem here.

    Let's get Winston in there, then some here can see what an actual "garbage" QB looks like.

    Watson has the second worst QBR in the season, I’ll take my chances with Winston or DTR to see if they can top it.

    @bbedward said:

    Watson has the second worst QBR in the season, I’ll take my chances with Winston or DTR to see if they can top it.

    Not happening. You don't panic after 3 weeks and bench your QB. But please continue to crap on the Browns starting QB rather than riding with him. Whatever helps you sleep at nite. 

    The Browns have the same record as the Ravens and a game in front of the Bengals. The world is not ending. Relax.

    The focus for Deshaun and his teammates is Las Vegas. Business trip for a dub. 

    Let's go! 

  • @packernation said:

    Screenshot_20240924-0244073.thumb.png.55f832d615f0cbbfcc827eb481f18b2c.png

    Stefanki knows Deshaun is not the problem here.

    Let's get Winston in there, then some here can see what an actual "garbage" QB looks like.

    Watson has the second worst QBR in the season, I’ll take my chances with Winston or DTR to see if they can top it.

    @bbedward said:

    Watson has the second worst QBR in the season, I’ll take my chances with Winston or DTR to see if they can top it.

    Hey bedward ... nice to see you it   MUST   be the real   BROWNS   football season again.