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  • @orion said:

    I don't see how they could...but baby steps are better than none.  

    How do you stop someone's brain from sloshing against their skull?  

    Easy.  Take off facemasks and go back to leather helmets.  Players would self-regulate in short order and quit aiming for the head and leading by the head.

    Rugby is a rough and tumble sport.  Those players don't wear helmets.  You don't read about the number of concussions in that sport.

    @ballpeen said:

    Easy.  Take off facemasks and go back to leather helmets.  Players would self-regulate in short order and quit aiming for the head and leading by the head.

    Rugby is a rough and tumble sport.  Those players don't wear helmets.  You don't read about the number of concussions in that sport.

    I thought of that before posting but dismissed it.  Football is a different game than rugby.  The downfield passing changes the whole dynamic.  QB's scrambling, you've got to get to him before he throws it, blitzers coming free with a head of steam coming right at him.  DB's trying to break up passes smashing into receivers right when the ball arrives.  Etc.  Sometimes your head just happens to be in the wrong spot.  

  • @ballpeen said:

    Easy.  Take off facemasks and go back to leather helmets.  Players would self-regulate in short order and quit aiming for the head and leading by the head.

    Rugby is a rough and tumble sport.  Those players don't wear helmets.  You don't read about the number of concussions in that sport.

    I thought of that before posting but dismissed it.  Football is a different game than rugby.  The downfield passing changes the whole dynamic.  QB's scrambling, you've got to get to him before he throws it, blitzers coming free with a head of steam coming right at him.  DB's trying to break up passes smashing into receivers right when the ball arrives.  Etc.  Sometimes your head just happens to be in the wrong spot.  

    @orion said:

    I thought of that before posting but dismissed it.  Football is a different game than rugby.  The downfield passing changes the whole dynamic.  QB's scrambling, you've got to get to him before he throws it, blitzers coming free with a head of steam coming right at him.  DB's trying to break up passes smashing into receivers right when the ball arrives.  Etc.  Sometimes your head just happens to be in the wrong spot.  

    Correct. It's a practical solution. It's NOT a pragmatic solution.

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  • And now for my science fair report...

    The Guardian Cap Website says GCs reduce force by up to 33%.

    The NFL claims the caps have reduced concussions by 50%.

    The NFL's data says the caps reduce force by 10%.

    The way the caps move around the helmet as opposed to being stuck to the helmet is done to reduce neck injuries, which makes sense...rather the cap be the weak point in the collision chain than a neck.

    As a kid, I remember Mark Kelso from the Bills wearing an extra layer in his helmet. Steve Wallace from the 49ers uses to wear one as well, but I don't remember him.

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  • Tl;Dr 

    You're all wrong.  

    They're big, big shower caps. JoK just forgot to take his off before the game. 

  • Looks kinda' goofy if you don't have it on straight.  And during the game it was easy to spot him.  He was the one with the big head.  🙂

    I thought Ward said he was going to wear one during games after he got his last concussion, but he hasn't.  

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    @orion said:

    Looks kinda' goofy if you don't have it on straight.  And during the game it was easy to spot him.  He was the one with the big head.  🙂

    I thought Ward said he was going to wear one during games after he got his last concussion, but he hasn't.  

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    These stupid things are not going to stop or reduce concussions.

    A concussion happens when your skull rapidly stops moving while your brain continues on and bashes the inside of your skill.

    If anything, I have to think that by increasing the length of the head-to the base of the neck distance it will increase spinal injuries.

    If you want to reduce concussions, get rid of the helmets.

    But nobody wants a slower NASCAR.

  • @orion said:

    Looks kinda' goofy if you don't have it on straight.  And during the game it was easy to spot him.  He was the one with the big head.  🙂

    I thought Ward said he was going to wear one during games after he got his last concussion, but he hasn't.  

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    These stupid things are not going to stop or reduce concussions.

    A concussion happens when your skull rapidly stops moving while your brain continues on and bashes the inside of your skill.

    If anything, I have to think that by increasing the length of the head-to the base of the neck distance it will increase spinal injuries.

    If you want to reduce concussions, get rid of the helmets.

    But nobody wants a slower NASCAR.

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    These stupid things are not going to stop or reduce concussions.

    A concussion happens when your skull rapidly stops moving while your brain continues on and bashes the inside of your skill.

    It has to reduce the energy transferred to one's head as some energy is lost from the padding...like a crumple zone in the nascar.  The question is what is the actual amount of dissipation and does that translate to any real protection.  I've seen some numbers from the NFL...but I'd like an independent lab's results for comparison.   

  • @ballpeen said:

    Easy.  Take off facemasks and go back to leather helmets.  Players would self-regulate in short order and quit aiming for the head and leading by the head.

    Rugby is a rough and tumble sport.  Those players don't wear helmets.  You don't read about the number of concussions in that sport.

    You do in soccer however. And of course they get terrible knee injuries almost every collision. You can tell the agony they are in.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    You do in soccer however. And of course they get terrible knee injuries almost every collision. You can tell the agony they are in.?

    More concussions in soccer than you'd think. Of course, you're literally using you head at some points so I guess it isn't that surprising. I've gotten a concussion playing. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    You do in soccer however. And of course they get terrible knee injuries almost every collision. You can tell the agony they are in.?

    More concussions in soccer than you'd think. Of course, you're literally using you head at some points so I guess it isn't that surprising. I've gotten a concussion playing. 

    @mld-woody said:

    More concussions in soccer than you'd think. Of course, you're literally using you head at some points so I guess it isn't that surprising. I've gotten a concussion playing. 

    Was that concussion from playing soccer or popping pimples?  Yeah, I guess there's soccer fans in England that drink enough to wake up feeling like they have a concussion symptom or 2.