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  • Browns are +3.0 to +3.5 in Vegas at the moment. I'd giveaway the points and take Wash.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Browns are +3.0 to +3.5 in Vegas at the moment. I'd giveaway the points and take Wash.

    Your picks always seem like you are low key trying to make people lose money.? Just playin'

    I take the Browns getting 3.5. I think it actually is 3 right now and Washington is at home. I still have some faith in the Browns.

    In the if anyone cares department:

    Packers-3 @ Rams. You know who I am going with, but I never bet Packers games. Too much emotional investment to be worrying about my parlay.

  • #91 Alex Wright is now done for the season with a triceps injury.  

  • Now this is one wacky map. The Browns game is being shown in a variety of places across the big 50 this Sunday. Hard to pick out the pattern on this one. 

    This week, those of us in Cincy will join my forsaken homies in Van Wert as the only Ohioans to not get the Browns game. Usually it’s the Bengals screwing us, but this week it’s Arizona and San Francisco? Ok then. 

    But Abilene, Texas? You’re good, along with a good chunk of north Texas and south Oklahoma. Oklahoma is arguably the funniest looking state. It’s like it’s trying to spoon Texas.

    For some reason northwest Louisiana is all about the Browns this week. 

    As expected the DC area, and a good chunk of northeastern states are getting the Browns. Except for Baltimore. They are opting for…Arizona and San Francisco?

    And basically LA and Death Valley and the Pacific northwest round out our Browns game watchers. Clearly they’re not interested in Arizona or San Francisco.

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  • Since the FOX late games are kinda blah & Tom Brady is a nightmare to listen to.

    Browns fans can watch the Pack after Browns@Wash.

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  • @texasag1969 said:

    Browns are +3.0 to +3.5 in Vegas at the moment. I'd giveaway the points and take Wash.

    Your picks always seem like you are low key trying to make people lose money.? Just playin'

    I take the Browns getting 3.5. I think it actually is 3 right now and Washington is at home. I still have some faith in the Browns.

    In the if anyone cares department:

    Packers-3 @ Rams. You know who I am going with, but I never bet Packers games. Too much emotional investment to be worrying about my parlay.

    @packernation said:

    I take the Browns getting 3.5 I still have some faith in the Browns.

     emotional investment 

    Faith and emotional investment tend to go hand in hand.  

    There isn't a single metric by which you should be taking the Browns to cover.   Especially against a surging young offense like WSH. 

  • @packernation said:

    I take the Browns getting 3.5 I still have some faith in the Browns.

     emotional investment 

    Faith and emotional investment tend to go hand in hand.  

    There isn't a single metric by which you should be taking the Browns to cover.   Especially against a surging young offense like WSH. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Faith and emotional investment tend to go hand in hand.  

    There isn't a single metric by which you should be taking the Browns to cover.   Especially against a surging young offense like WSH. 

    Never betting Packers games was the too much emotional investment part.

    Still having some faith in the Browns is coupled with not betting chalk.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Browns are +3.0 to +3.5 in Vegas at the moment. I'd giveaway the points and take Wash.

    Your picks always seem like you are low key trying to make people lose money.? Just playin'

    I take the Browns getting 3.5. I think it actually is 3 right now and Washington is at home. I still have some faith in the Browns.

    In the if anyone cares department:

    Packers-3 @ Rams. You know who I am going with, but I never bet Packers games. Too much emotional investment to be worrying about my parlay.

    @packernation said:

    Your picks always seem like you are low key trying to make people lose money.? Just playin'

    I take the Browns getting 3.5. I think it actually is 3 right now and Washington is at home. I still have some faith in the Browns.

    In the if anyone cares department:

    Packers-3 @ Rams. You know who I am going with, but I never bet Packers games. Too much emotional investment to be worrying about my parlay.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Faith and emotional investment tend to go hand in hand.  

    There isn't a single metric by which you should be taking the Browns to cover.   Especially against a surging young offense like WSH. 

    Amen tia. LOL!?

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    Well....our running attack ended last season ranked 12th and we've steadily marched down the rankings, as I predicted before game #1.  This is not because our RB's suck.  We'd be having much the same production with Chubb in the lineup.  Most of our starting OLinemen have been injured all season.  The injured OL is also reflected in the league leading 19 sacks.  Are some of those sacks on Watson?  Sure.  But that's the case on every team to one degree or another.  

    Our #1 ranked defense of last year is in the bottom half of the league against the run and only cracked the top 10 in pass D after last week's game.  

    We are in a world of $#!+.  The Commanders are sporting a pretty good offense, stats-wise.  Conversely, their defense is vulnerable...but to who?  Certainly we can't take advantage of that with our 26th & 28th ranked offense.  And that's not going to change until we can get some OLinemen in here.  (April?)

    Before week one I did my Must Win Games thing.  One criteria of making the playoffs is beating the teams that you are supposed to beat.  We just lost two of those games in a row.  This would be the third.  That pretty much means that we're not supposed to beat anyone this year...which means, no playoffs.  This leaves us with just one thing...Watson.  Will he progress and get back to the brand of QB that he was supposed to be.  That's the remaining purpose of this season, to me anyway.

    @orion said:

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    Well....our running attack ended last season ranked 12th and we've steadily marched down the rankings, as I predicted before game #1.  This is not because our RB's suck.  We'd be having much the same production with Chubb in the lineup.  Most of our starting OLinemen have been injured all season.  The injured OL is also reflected in the league leading 19 sacks.  Are some of those sacks on Watson?  Sure.  But that's the case on every team to one degree or another.  

    Our #1 ranked defense of last year is in the bottom half of the league against the run and only cracked the top 10 in pass D after last week's game.  

    We are in a world of $#!+.  The Commanders are sporting a pretty good offense, stats-wise.  Conversely, their defense is vulnerable...but to who?  Certainly we can't take advantage of that with our 26th & 28th ranked offense.  And that's not going to change until we can get some OLinemen in here.  (April?)

    Before week one I did my Must Win Games thing.  One criteria of making the playoffs is beating the teams that you are supposed to beat.  We just lost two of those games in a row.  This would be the third.  That pretty much means that we're not supposed to beat anyone this year...which means, no playoffs.  This leaves us with just one thing...Watson.  Will he progress and get back to the brand of QB that he was supposed to be.  That's the remaining purpose of this season, to me anyway.

    Beverage of choice this Sunday - Decaff Coffee.  If the ole saying "2 wrongs don't make a right" is true - I don't recommend drinking depressants while watching the depressants.

    Remember what I told you about the Must Win Games?  Please forget it.  Evidently, it only applied to other teams coming off double-digit wins...

  • @orion said:

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    Well....our running attack ended last season ranked 12th and we've steadily marched down the rankings, as I predicted before game #1.  This is not because our RB's suck.  We'd be having much the same production with Chubb in the lineup.  Most of our starting OLinemen have been injured all season.  The injured OL is also reflected in the league leading 19 sacks.  Are some of those sacks on Watson?  Sure.  But that's the case on every team to one degree or another.  

    Our #1 ranked defense of last year is in the bottom half of the league against the run and only cracked the top 10 in pass D after last week's game.  

    We are in a world of $#!+.  The Commanders are sporting a pretty good offense, stats-wise.  Conversely, their defense is vulnerable...but to who?  Certainly we can't take advantage of that with our 26th & 28th ranked offense.  And that's not going to change until we can get some OLinemen in here.  (April?)

    Before week one I did my Must Win Games thing.  One criteria of making the playoffs is beating the teams that you are supposed to beat.  We just lost two of those games in a row.  This would be the third.  That pretty much means that we're not supposed to beat anyone this year...which means, no playoffs.  This leaves us with just one thing...Watson.  Will he progress and get back to the brand of QB that he was supposed to be.  That's the remaining purpose of this season, to me anyway.

    Beverage of choice this Sunday - Decaff Coffee.  If the ole saying "2 wrongs don't make a right" is true - I don't recommend drinking depressants while watching the depressants.

    Remember what I told you about the Must Win Games?  Please forget it.  Evidently, it only applied to other teams coming off double-digit wins...

    @flugel said:

    Beverage of choice this Sunday - decaf coffee 

    Get out. 

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    My inner 13 year old got a big laugh out of…

    P. Strong - questionable

    I’m gonna miss this one, work obligations and not on my local tv anyway. I’m kinda thankful l’m not missing Chubb’s 2024 debut. I figure he’s still working up to game speed and l want that debut to go well. 

    He’s a true career 5 yards per carry guy and l want all the success for him. 

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    IMO about the only guy that might be up for the game would be Dunn.  And he's a career backup.  

  • I'm thinking that our offense will consist of five backups.  ?

    WR - starter,  LT - backup to the backup,  LG - starter,  C - starter,  RG - rookie 3rd round pick backup,  RT - backup,  WR - starter, 

    TE - backup,  QB - starter,  RB - backup,  WR - starter

  • I'm thinking that our offense will consist of five backups.  ?

    WR - starter,  LT - backup to the backup,  LG - starter,  C - starter,  RG - rookie 3rd round pick backup,  RT - backup,  WR - starter, 

    TE - backup,  QB - starter,  RB - backup,  WR - starter

    @orion said:

    I'm thinking that our offense will consist of five backups.  ?

    WR - starter,  LT - backup to the backup,  LG - starter,  C - starter,  RG - rookie 3rd round pick backup,  RT - backup,  WR - starter, 

    TE - backup,  QB - starter,  RB - backup,  WR - starter

    Sure looks like disaster to me. Our D will be deadening in the 4th Q. The spread would be closer to +13 than +3. Split the difference and say +8.

  • @orion said:

    I'm thinking that our offense will consist of five backups.  ?

    WR - starter,  LT - backup to the backup,  LG - starter,  C - starter,  RG - rookie 3rd round pick backup,  RT - backup,  WR - starter, 

    TE - backup,  QB - starter,  RB - backup,  WR - starter

    Sure looks like disaster to me. Our D will be deadening in the 4th Q. The spread would be closer to +13 than +3. Split the difference and say +8.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Sure looks like disaster to me. Our D will be deadening in the 4th Q. The spread would be closer to +13 than +3. Split the difference and say +8.

    ? You do realize that every team has injuries? Every fan base feels their team has the most. Every team has guys out and several questionable. Questionable is like the old probable. Having 5 questionable and 5 out is nothing to panic about.

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  • @texasag1969 said:

    Sure looks like disaster to me. Our D will be deadening in the 4th Q. The spread would be closer to +13 than +3. Split the difference and say +8.

    ? You do realize that every team has injuries? Every fan base feels their team has the most. Every team has guys out and several questionable. Questionable is like the old probable. Having 5 questionable and 5 out is nothing to panic about.

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    @packernation said:

    ? You do realize that every team has injuries? Every fan base feels their team has the most. Every team has guys out and several questionable. Questionable is like the old probable. Having 5 questionable and 5 out is nothing to panic about.

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    And you just showed 4 people that prove my point. They are terrible pickers. 1 out of 16 overall? LOL! I could do better with a magic 8 ball.?? 

    Will the Browns lose by more than 3 points?  "It is decidedly so."

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Sure looks like disaster to me. Our D will be deadening in the 4th Q. The spread would be closer to +13 than +3. Split the difference and say +8.

    ? You do realize that every team has injuries? Every fan base feels their team has the most. Every team has guys out and several questionable. Questionable is like the old probable. Having 5 questionable and 5 out is nothing to panic about.

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    @packernation said:

    ? You do realize that every team has injuries?

    You do realize we understand this as our '#1' QB and our favorite player Chubb was injured all last year and we made it to the playoffs?

    This year is different. Our D isn't exactly dominating and we're not playing well, injuries or whatever, it's just a simple fact this year.

    I'm as optimistic as anyone but the Browns need to show real life before I get my hopes up this year.

  • last year we got lucky winning in one score games, this year we are 0-2, last year we were 6-2

  • @packernation said:

    ? You do realize that every team has injuries? Every fan base feels their team has the most. Every team has guys out and several questionable. Questionable is like the old probable. Having 5 questionable and 5 out is nothing to panic about.

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    And you just showed 4 people that prove my point. They are terrible pickers. 1 out of 16 overall? LOL! I could do better with a magic 8 ball.?? 

    Will the Browns lose by more than 3 points?  "It is decidedly so."

    @texasag1969 said:

    And you just showed 4 people that prove my point. They are terrible pickers. 1 out of 16 overall? LOL! I could do better with a magic 8 ball.?? 

    Will the Browns lose by more than 3 points?  "It is decidedly so."

    Ok, you and I will do picks(obviously using the spread) this week for all this weeks NFL games, if u want to, unless you scared? Sunday and Monday games. Thursday already played and out.

    Just an explanation in case you need one:

    I can post all the games and the spreads. There are 13 games. So you rank them 1 thru 13. Put 13 on the game you're most confident in your pick, and 1 on the game least confident in, and so on.

    Tally up points and the winner has the most points.

    Probably should do in a separate thread.