The Official Browns at Commanders Game Thread Oct 6th
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A couple things.
As long as Watson is healthy, he will start. Because this team is in win mode - and that means either win now or win later, but no where in between. And by that, I mean, if it isn't win now, the evaluation will lead this team to draft a new QB who can hopefully win later.
Secondly, this team is old and hurt on the Oline with underperforming QBs and RBs. Winston isn't going to fix this.
Credit the WSH coaches on offense. Crunch is becoming all the rage, especially against these aggressive, upfield defenses like the Brownies.
A couple things.
As long as Watson is healthy, he will start. Because this team is in win mode - and that means either win now or win later, but no where in between. And by that, I mean, if it isn't win now, the evaluation will lead this team to draft a new QB who can hopefully win later.
Secondly, this team is old and hurt on the Oline with underperforming QBs and RBs. Winston isn't going to fix this.
Credit the WSH coaches on offense. Crunch is becoming all the rage, especially against these aggressive, upfield defenses like the Brownies.
And as long as Watson is healthy, he will tank this season. AND take the Front Office down with him. Tia, OMG, It's SO F**king obbvious... That old horse (Texans) ain't what he used to be. Watson's deep ball accuracy is shot. He's not just a 1\2 beat slow on his reads, he's a full second slow on them. The Commanders knew this- get in his face before he sees what's happening. He had guys wide open, and didn't see them. Scrambling ability? Daniels showed how to scramble and pick up yardage... Watson? Sacked behind the los...
Let's be real, what all do you want the man to do? You don't throw your players under the bus.
Or get run over by the oncoming bus Tia...
Bench Watson. Admit that the the guy is THE WORST TRADE IN NFL HISTORY. Keep playing DW, and go 1-6 by the end of October. I see no way out of this shit show. was it 1-13 on third down or something like that?
Prediction: Kevvy the beta wimp , fired by Halloween.. Vrabel to take over (please) ?
Only if Kev has the 'nads to bench his bazillion dollar bum. If the Denver Donkey can shit can Russell Wilson, the Browns need to swallow their pride and admit they made a humongous mistake.
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A couple things.
As long as Watson is healthy, he will start. Because this team is in win mode - and that means either win now or win later, but no where in between. And by that, I mean, if it isn't win now, the evaluation will lead this team to draft a new QB who can hopefully win later.
Secondly, this team is old and hurt on the Oline with underperforming QBs and RBs. Winston isn't going to fix this.
Credit the WSH coaches on offense. Crunch is becoming all the rage, especially against these aggressive, upfield defenses like the Brownies.
And as long as Watson is healthy, he will tank this season. AND take the Front Office down with him. Tia, OMG, It's SO F**king obbvious... That old horse (Texans) ain't what he used to be. Watson's deep ball accuracy is shot. He's not just a 1\2 beat slow on his reads, he's a full second slow on them. The Commanders knew this- get in his face before he sees what's happening. He had guys wide open, and didn't see them. Scrambling ability? Daniels showed how to scramble and pick up yardage... Watson? Sacked behind the los...
Let's be real, what all do you want the man to do? You don't throw your players under the bus.
Or get run over by the oncoming bus Tia...
Bench Watson. Admit that the the guy is THE WORST TRADE IN NFL HISTORY. Keep playing DW, and go 1-6 by the end of October. I see no way out of this shit show. was it 1-13 on third down or something like that?
Prediction: Kevvy the beta wimp , fired by Halloween.. Vrabel to take over (please) ?
Only if Kev has the 'nads to bench his bazillion dollar bum. If the Denver Donkey can shit can Russell Wilson, the Browns need to swallow their pride and admit they made a humongous mistake.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Just have the OL give him the Paul crew treatment on the opening drive next week.
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...and put in who?
A third string QB from Saint Ignatius? Orion, this is painful for me to watch... When the QB rankings come out- expect Watson to be at the bottom of the list. Ditching Flacco- mistake. I'd take ANYONE with some NFL talent right now instead of Watson. He's looking like Brandon Weeden on a BAD day. Or- pick your other favorite Browns QB bum.
I do admit he looks a touch better than QB Ken Dorsey, which is another major screw up the Browns Front office did. Yep, Mr. Haslam- time to blow it all up again. a record like 4-13 will make your decision pretty easy.
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...and put in who?
I'm pretty sure there's quite a few people under the delusion that there's some magical QB on this roster that can overcome a horrible OLine situation coupled with a complete clusterfuck when it comes to scheme to put up results we are all yearning for.
This isn't me sticking up for Watson - I'm still impatiently waiting for him to get suspended again so we can rid ourselves of this fiasco of a situation - but I just can't see things getting better with Winston or DTR either.
The whole offense is fubar'd.
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...and put in who?
A third string QB from Saint Ignatius? Orion, this is painful for me to watch... When the QB rankings come out- expect Watson to be at the bottom of the list. Ditching Flacco- mistake. I'd take ANYONE with some NFL talent right now instead of Watson. He's looking like Brandon Weeden on a BAD day. Or- pick your other favorite Browns QB bum.
I do admit he looks a touch better than QB Ken Dorsey, which is another major screw up the Browns Front office did. Yep, Mr. Haslam- time to blow it all up again. a record like 4-13 will make your decision pretty easy.
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...and put in who?
I'm pretty sure there's quite a few people under the delusion that there's some magical QB on this roster that can overcome a horrible OLine situation coupled with a complete clusterfuck when it comes to scheme to put up results we are all yearning for.
This isn't me sticking up for Watson - I'm still impatiently waiting for him to get suspended again so we can rid ourselves of this fiasco of a situation - but I just can't see things getting better with Winston or DTR either.
The whole offense is fubar'd.
I'm pretty sure there's quite a few people under the delusion that there's some magical QB on this roster that can overcome a horrible OLine situation coupled with a complete clusterfuck when it comes to scheme to put up results we are all yearning for.
This isn't me sticking up for Watson - I'm still impatiently waiting for him to get suspended again so we can rid ourselves of this fiasco of a situation - but I just can't see things getting better with Winston or DTR either.
The whole offense is fubar'd.
It’s just that I suspect our OL is not the worst in the league, even though it’s of course terrible and near the bottom. Watson however is at the bottom of the pack. Likely can’t get worse at the QB position.
He just misses even when he has the time, he’s too slow to escape the pocket these days when it falls apart, and idk why he can’t see obvious blitzes and just stands there. Seems like I’d expect some pre snap adjustments to plan a quick hitter.
At 1-4 who cares though, might as well keep him out there until he gets hurt or suspended again.
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I'm pretty sure there's quite a few people under the delusion that there's some magical QB on this roster that can overcome a horrible OLine situation coupled with a complete clusterfuck when it comes to scheme to put up results we are all yearning for.
This isn't me sticking up for Watson - I'm still impatiently waiting for him to get suspended again so we can rid ourselves of this fiasco of a situation - but I just can't see things getting better with Winston or DTR either.
The whole offense is fubar'd.
It’s just that I suspect our OL is not the worst in the league, even though it’s of course terrible and near the bottom. Watson however is at the bottom of the pack. Likely can’t get worse at the QB position.
He just misses even when he has the time, he’s too slow to escape the pocket these days when it falls apart, and idk why he can’t see obvious blitzes and just stands there. Seems like I’d expect some pre snap adjustments to plan a quick hitter.
At 1-4 who cares though, might as well keep him out there until he gets hurt or suspended again.
It’s just that I suspect our OL is not the worst in the league, even though it’s of course terrible and near the bottom. Watson however is at the bottom of the pack. Likely can’t get worse at the QB position.
He just misses even when he has the time, he’s too slow to escape the pocket these days when it falls apart, and idk why he can’t see obvious blitzes and just stands there. Seems like I’d expect some pre snap adjustments to plan a quick hitter.
At 1-4 who cares though, might as well keep him out there until he gets hurt or suspended again.
Exactly.
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Joe Flacco in for the injured Richardson was 33/44 359 yds and 3 TDs 0 Ints. Def was awful so they still lost 37-34.
Stupid MFs in the Browns FO all need to go.
Owners call
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I feel like I may have overestimated the Browns. It will never get turned around until Stefanski is gone. I don't care that he won a couple coach of the year awards. Idiot sportswriters are the ones that vote on that. You ever see some of those writers? A lot of them can't tie their own shoes without assistance.
Eagles next? Philly will steamroll Cleveland.
Usually I am more positive about the Browns. I do still think Watson could be more successful if a complete moron wasn't in charge of the offense.
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I know. I called it brutal to watch. But Watson is not going to be benched for Winston or DTR....or a St. Ingatius player...
The owner won’t allow it. Our coach has ZERO to say about who plays QB.
And that’s you need to know about this version of the SHIT SHOW we have to deal with in 2024
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I feel like I may have overestimated the Browns. It will never get turned around until Stefanski is gone. I don't care that he won a couple coach of the year awards. Idiot sportswriters are the ones that vote on that. You ever see some of those writers? A lot of them can't tie their own shoes without assistance.
Eagles next? Philly will steamroll Cleveland.
Usually I am more positive about the Browns. I do still think Watson could be more successful if a complete moron wasn't in charge of the offense.
I feel like I may have overestimated the Browns. It will never get turned around until Stefanski is gone. I don't care that he won a couple coach of the year awards. Idiot sportswriters are the ones that vote on that. You ever see some of those writers? A lot of them can't tie their own shoes without assistance.
Eagles next? Philly will steamroll Cleveland.
Usually I am more positive about the Browns. I do still think Watson could be more successful if a complete moron wasn't in charge of the offense.
Stefanski would get scooped up so quickly if the browns let him loose.
He’s done pretty well with QBs here since Watson joined, just with guys not named Watson.
I get you’re not a browns fan, but Watson is quite literally the worst in many metrics since 2000 on the browns. And we had a couple years of deshone kizer
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I feel like I may have overestimated the Browns. It will never get turned around until Stefanski is gone. I don't care that he won a couple coach of the year awards. Idiot sportswriters are the ones that vote on that. You ever see some of those writers? A lot of them can't tie their own shoes without assistance.
Eagles next? Philly will steamroll Cleveland.
Usually I am more positive about the Browns. I do still think Watson could be more successful if a complete moron wasn't in charge of the offense.
I feel like I may have overestimated the Browns. It will never get turned around until Stefanski is gone. I don't care that he won a couple coach of the year awards. Idiot sportswriters are the ones that vote on that. You ever see some of those writers? A lot of them can't tie their own shoes without assistance.
Eagles next? Philly will steamroll Cleveland.
Usually I am more positive about the Browns. I do still think Watson could be more successful if a complete moron wasn't in charge of the offense.
I disagree.
Coach has proven he can win. He won 11 games with 4 QB’s. The guy can coach, if the QB is willing to listen.
He can’t win with Watson. No one has. He led the league in passing and only won 4 games. He is a “Me first” guy. And our IDIOT owner made SURE OF THAT by giving him $230 million GUARANTEED
This total DEBACLE falls on Jimmy.
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
I feel like I may have overestimated the Browns. It will never get turned around until Stefanski is gone. I don't care that he won a couple coach of the year awards. Idiot sportswriters are the ones that vote on that. You ever see some of those writers? A lot of them can't tie their own shoes without assistance.
Eagles next? Philly will steamroll Cleveland.
Usually I am more positive about the Browns. I do still think Watson could be more successful if a complete moron wasn't in charge of the offense.
Stefanski would get scooped up so quickly if the browns let him loose.
He’s done pretty well with QBs here since Watson joined, just with guys not named Watson.
I get you’re not a browns fan, but Watson is quite literally the worst in many metrics since 2000 on the browns. And we had a couple years of deshone kizer
Stefanski would get scooped up so quickly if the browns let him loose.
He’s done pretty well with QBs here since Watson joined, just with guys not named Watson.
I get you’re not a browns fan, but Watson is quite literally the worst in many metrics since 2000 on the browns. And we had a couple years of deshone kizer
I have felt Stefanski had no business running a offense going back to his days in Minnesota. He only did for one season. It took him 15 years in Minnesota to get the OC job for one year. No one fears Stefanski as the head coach when they play the Browns. He will end up somewhat like Mike Pettine. Take a year off and then he may get some desperate team to hire him as OC. Maybe.
We can agree to disagree, and cool that you think so highly of him. He will be fired within the next 2 years. Stay tuned...
He is on the hot seat right now.
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I feel like I may have overestimated the Browns. It will never get turned around until Stefanski is gone. I don't care that he won a couple coach of the year awards. Idiot sportswriters are the ones that vote on that. You ever see some of those writers? A lot of them can't tie their own shoes without assistance.
Eagles next? Philly will steamroll Cleveland.
Usually I am more positive about the Browns. I do still think Watson could be more successful if a complete moron wasn't in charge of the offense.
I disagree.
Coach has proven he can win. He won 11 games with 4 QB’s. The guy can coach, if the QB is willing to listen.
He can’t win with Watson. No one has. He led the league in passing and only won 4 games. He is a “Me first” guy. And our IDIOT owner made SURE OF THAT by giving him $230 million GUARANTEED
This total DEBACLE falls on Jimmy.
I disagree.
Coach has proven he can win. He won 11 games with 4 QB’s. The guy can coach, if the QB is willing to listen.
He can’t win with Watson. No one has. He led the league in passing and only won 4 games. He is a “Me first” guy. And our IDIOT owner made SURE OF THAT by giving him $230 million GUARANTEED
This total DEBACLE falls on Jimmy.
BINGO! Jimmy and the FO brought Watson here and people are pretending Stefanski is the problem?
The problem with this ownership isn't who needs to be fired - it's WHO they keep hiring after every firing.
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I feel like I may have overestimated the Browns. It will never get turned around until Stefanski is gone. I don't care that he won a couple coach of the year awards. Idiot sportswriters are the ones that vote on that. You ever see some of those writers? A lot of them can't tie their own shoes without assistance.
Eagles next? Philly will steamroll Cleveland.
Usually I am more positive about the Browns. I do still think Watson could be more successful if a complete moron wasn't in charge of the offense.
I disagree.
Coach has proven he can win. He won 11 games with 4 QB’s. The guy can coach, if the QB is willing to listen.
He can’t win with Watson. No one has. He led the league in passing and only won 4 games. He is a “Me first” guy. And our IDIOT owner made SURE OF THAT by giving him $230 million GUARANTEED
This total DEBACLE falls on Jimmy.
I disagree.
Coach has proven he can win. He won 11 games with 4 QB’s. The guy can coach, if the QB is willing to listen.
He can’t win with Watson. No one has. He led the league in passing and only won 4 games. He is a “Me first” guy. And our IDIOT owner made SURE OF THAT by giving him $230 million GUARANTEED
This total DEBACLE falls on Jimmy.
I don’t think you’re giving enough credit to 3 guys that helped make last year’s offense hum.
Those guys are Callahan, AVP, and Stump.
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I disagree.
Coach has proven he can win. He won 11 games with 4 QB’s. The guy can coach, if the QB is willing to listen.
He can’t win with Watson. No one has. He led the league in passing and only won 4 games. He is a “Me first” guy. And our IDIOT owner made SURE OF THAT by giving him $230 million GUARANTEED
This total DEBACLE falls on Jimmy.
I don’t think you’re giving enough credit to 3 guys that helped make last year’s offense hum.
Those guys are Callahan, AVP, and Stump.
I don’t think you’re giving enough credit to 3 guys that helped make last year’s offense hum.
Those guys are Callahan, AVP, and Stump.
IMO, the only thing that made the offense 'hum' was good QB play last year. And that ended once we hit the playoffs and played a playoff team. The OL is in the same shambles as last year under Callahan. And the ability to run the ball is on the same downward spiral as last year.
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I don’t think you’re giving enough credit to 3 guys that helped make last year’s offense hum.
Those guys are Callahan, AVP, and Stump.
IMO, the only thing that made the offense 'hum' was good QB play last year. And that ended once we hit the playoffs and played a playoff team. The OL is in the same shambles as last year under Callahan. And the ability to run the ball is on the same downward spiral as last year.
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Just got home from cleaning out a property that we just bought. 11 cats have been living in the trailer there and it is TOTALLY DISGUSTING.
But not as bad as the Clowns. Top 3 pick on its way
But not as bad as the Clowns. Top 3 pick on its way
Gonna need more than one
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