Pro Anderson thread
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I like DA so much better than Quinn. If we are going to give anyone young QB any rope to struggle and get better, I say it be DA.
His touch was a lot better on the short throws. He still ain't afraid to let'er rip. Dial him down a bit and he definately has more up-side.
Hopefully those that are going to get their feelings hurt about Quinn being 'done', don't whine here. I want to hear from other like minded that DA has horseballs, a cannon and the mentality to use it. Let the kid sling the shit out of it, more entertaining than Quinzzzzzzz.
At Season end we evaulate. I've seen enough of Quinzzzzz. He's a bore and not worth the price of an NFL ticket.
i've been trying to be neutral, but many know that i'm a closet DA fan. He showed too much presence in 07 to move to the back-up role.
But Mangini had to play Quinn, and i supported it. i explained that Mangini has the luxury of using a short leash on Quinn. i thought it would be 4 games (and i got beat up pretty bad here for suggesting it). i had no idea that he would pull the trigger after just 2.5 games. He must have wanted to get this done pretty bad. i think we could have finished that slaughter today with Quinn under center.
Mangini has worked himself into tral pickle now. i'll be if he could do it over, Quinn would have finished and he would have started DA with a clean slate against the Bengals.
i've been trying to be neutral, but many know that i'm a closet DA fan. He showed too much presence in 07 to move to the back-up role.
But Mangini had to play Quinn, and i supported it. i explained that Mangini has the luxury of using a short leash on Quinn. i thought it would be 4 games (and i got beat up pretty bad here for suggesting it). i had no idea that he would pull the trigger after just 2.5 games. He must have wanted to get this done pretty bad. i think we could have finished that slaughter today with Quinn under center.
Mangini has worked himself into tral pickle now. i'll be if he could do it over, Quinn would have finished and he would have started DA with a clean slate against the Bengals.
I agree. DA is a good QB. I just feel bad for DA. I wish Quinn would of finished, and DA would start against cinci.
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i've been trying to be neutral, but many know that i'm a closet DA fan. He showed too much presence in 07 to move to the back-up role.
But Mangini had to play Quinn, and i supported it. i explained that Mangini has the luxury of using a short leash on Quinn. i thought it would be 4 games (and i got beat up pretty bad here for suggesting it). i had no idea that he would pull the trigger after just 2.5 games. He must have wanted to get this done pretty bad. i think we could have finished that slaughter today with Quinn under center.
Mangini has worked himself into tral pickle now. i'll be if he could do it over, Quinn would have finished and he would have started DA with a clean slate against the Bengals.
Stop waffling Ed .. who would you rather see we give time to the rest of the way?
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Sorry impaired. However, start being a little more direct and less wishy-washy.
Hey atenears, what was the problem with Quinn? Was he scared of being benched or was it the baltimore defense?
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Hey atenears, what was the problem with Quinn? Was he scared of being benched or was it the baltimore defense?
He is just a pussy. Afraid to throw up field.
Uses three hair care products to get ready for an evening. Do I have to spell it out?
DA has big giant horseballs. The kid is not a pussy and will launch the rock.
Quinn who? Forget that bust.
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Do you think adding Marvin Harrison next to BE will help improve our chances ?
Do you think adding Marvin Harrison next to BE will help improve our chances ?
I think just removing BE from the field would improve our chances to actually grow as a unit because right now BE is the only target and he is a marked man..that lacks everything but a circus catch...
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Jeez...that didn't take long did it.
That big strong arm looks that good to you despite not knowing where it's going half the time?
I'm rooting for whoever is starting, so I don't really care either way and Quinn sure has looked shitty this year compared to last year and even in the preseason.
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I disliked Quinn in college, and I hated the Quinn draft pick, but those both pale in comparison to how much I hate to watch Brady Quinn play QB for our Browns. Right now, tonight, I hope DA is the QB for the rest of the year. That being said, NEITHER QB is our championship leader. Only one QB will be on the roster next year (God, please not Quinn, please???) and both will be gone for the start of the 2011 season.
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DA is who DA is.
We already have that quantified and we saw it all in one half of football today.
1) How do you get sacked without getting touched? Watch DA fall down in the pocket when forced to move a little. He has no athleticism (sorry Z, but you're out to lunch on that one). None for an NFL QB. This isn't necessarily a huge deal, but we all know not to expect much if he has to move. (i.e., cockpit isn't perfect)
2) Decision making. Rusty? Sure, maybe. Watch the first INT again. Where, exactly, did he think that ball would fit other than into the defender's hip? That wasn't trying to make something happen, that was just an awful decision. 2 more INT's follow.
3) Accuracy. His nearly fourth INT on the pass to Furrey.
Maybe he gives us the best chance to win, but that's only because we don't have another option if indeed its "stick a fork in Quinn time". Its too bad, because I think being forced to "invest" more development time in DA is most likely a poor bet.
DA is who DA is.
We already have that quantified and we saw it all in one half of football today.
1) How do you get sacked without getting touched? Watch DA fall down in the pocket when forced to move a little. He has no athleticism (sorry Z, but you're out to lunch on that one). None for an NFL QB. This isn't necessarily a huge deal, but we all know not to expect much if he has to move. (i.e., cockpit isn't perfect)
2) Decision making. Rusty? Sure, maybe. Watch the first INT again. Where, exactly, did he think that ball would fit other than into the defender's hip? That wasn't trying to make something happen, that was just an awful decision. 2 more INT's follow.
3) Accuracy. His nearly fourth INT on the pass to Furrey.
Maybe he gives us the best chance to win, but that's only because we don't have another option if indeed its "stick a fork in Quinn time". Its too bad, because I think being forced to "invest" more development time in DA is most likely a poor bet.
Someone suggested the turf sacked him. I don't have a recording but that's not what I remember seeing.
I don't believe the turf had much, if anything to do with that sack. I think he was hearing footsteps. (Whether they were there or not.) He's not without athleticism. He used to run high hurdles.
Both QBs looked like they were playing scared and feared getting the hook after the next down.
At least the HC did get to see both QBs play against the same #2 defense from last season.
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i've been trying to be neutral, but many know that i'm a closet DA fan. He showed too much presence in 07 to move to the back-up role.
But Mangini had to play Quinn, and i supported it. i explained that Mangini has the luxury of using a short leash on Quinn. i thought it would be 4 games (and i got beat up pretty bad here for suggesting it). i had no idea that he would pull the trigger after just 2.5 games. He must have wanted to get this done pretty bad. i think we could have finished that slaughter today with Quinn under center.
Mangini has worked himself into tral pickle now. i'll be if he could do it over, Quinn would have finished and he would have started DA with a clean slate against the Bengals.
I agree. DA is a good QB. I just feel bad for DA. I wish Quinn would of finished, and DA would start against cinci.
I agree. DA is a good QB. I just feel bad for DA. I wish Quinn would of finished, and DA would start against cinci.
LOL.....DA is a good QB? In what fantasy world?
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I love DA.. for comic relief. I love watching him stare down recievers and watch the DB step in front of the pass. I love to watch him throw the ball right into the teeth of triple coverage. I thoroughly enjoys watching him fall down over his big clown feet with all defenders 6 feet away from him. He is a Joy and a pleasure.. It's almost like watching a circus clown.. it's hilarious watching him make exactly the same mistakes he made all last year. it's comedy at its finest..
But it's not good football.
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How's that DA support workin for ya, Stan ?
Clodhopper trips, flips, ints, and grins.
At least Quinn TRIES to get things happening.
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i've been trying to be neutral, but many know that i'm a closet DA fan. He showed too much presence in 07 to move to the back-up role.
But Mangini had to play Quinn, and i supported it. i explained that Mangini has the luxury of using a short leash on Quinn. i thought it would be 4 games (and i got beat up pretty bad here for suggesting it). i had no idea that he would pull the trigger after just 2.5 games. He must have wanted to get this done pretty bad. i think we could have finished that slaughter today with Quinn under center.
Mangini has worked himself into tral pickle now. i'll be if he could do it over, Quinn would have finished and he would have started DA with a clean slate against the Bengals.
Stop waffling Ed .. who would you rather see we give time to the rest of the way?
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Do you think adding Marvin Harrison next to BE will help improve our chances ?
no but putting Furrey next to him will, Cribbs is not a viable receiver.
see I dont know if the OC has 0 trust in BQ or not, but BQ is not throwing the ball something which Anderson is not afraid to do. Interceptions are terrible. But not seeing any touchdowns in much worse. And playing 70% of Snaps to Quinn equates to 11 million. I say save the money if u have 0 confidence in ur QB's.
I think it's more so about Quinn not having any confidence, and having a lot of pressure knowing that with any mistake, he can be benched. DA has nothing to lose so he just airs it out.
no but putting Furrey next to him will, Cribbs is not a viable receiver.
I think it's more so about Quinn not having any confidence, and having a lot of pressure knowing that with any mistake, he can be benched. DA has nothing to lose so he just airs it out.
i disagree jerky. i don't think it's because he has nothing to lose, he has MILLIONS to lose. he airs it out because that's who he is.
you don't think DA is worried about making mistakes, or about being benched? he's been counted out so much...people consider him such a non-factor they think he got where he is by accident or something, like he has no drive or ambition.
i have never wavered on this board in years in saying i've seen improvement from the guy EVERY year. maybe it wasn't huge strides but he's worked on his game nonetheless and you can see it if you were looking for it. he was only throwing to one side of the field at first. then he cut down on the risks and had less picks (when not playing from behind mind you). then his footwork and touch showed some improvement. personally, i think when he drops back he looks pretty smooth out there. but hey, i'm looking for improvement tweaks, not dwelling on his faults that get beat to death here.
one of my favorite attributes of his is his short memory. i think it was phil simms or rich gannon that said in '07 they felt he had the perfect temperament to play QB. that's a big statement IMO, and for an accomplished QB to say it I listen. he's been yanked from starting multiple times yet i've never heard one person remark they are worried "his confidence might be shattered" etc. it's always downplayed that he has nothing to lose, like BJ said. i never worry if he'll bounce back. he's 2,000 miles from home with a fanbase out here the size of a hot dog line at the stadium and he still holds his head high. that's unflappable confidence. that's the type of a leader that people can feed off of. and his laid back attitude>>>when the going gets tough that's the type of personality that will calm down the huddle in a high pressure situation like the playoffs.
those are my favorite things about the guy. go figure, and i didn't even mention his arm.
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I guess Anderson will be the lesser of the 2 evils. I say we keep him in there the rest of the season....or until he gets hurt. The way I see it....DA has the physical tools, but lacks the mentality. A good coach may be able to help him mature to a "smarter" state. At this point, I don't think Quinn has the ability to play in the NFL. I was pulling for him to play, so we could get an idea of what he could do and honestly.....I've seen all I need to see.
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How's that DA support workin for ya, Stan ?
Clodhopper trips, flips, ints, and grins.
At least Quinn TRIES to get things happening.
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no but putting Furrey next to him will, Cribbs is not a viable receiver.
I think it's more so about Quinn not having any confidence, and having a lot of pressure knowing that with any mistake, he can be benched. DA has nothing to lose so he just airs it out.
i disagree jerky. i don't think it's because he has nothing to lose, he has MILLIONS to lose. he airs it out because that's who he is.
you don't think DA is worried about making mistakes, or about being benched? he's been counted out so much...people consider him such a non-factor they think he got where he is by accident or something, like he has no drive or ambition.
i have never wavered on this board in years in saying i've seen improvement from the guy EVERY year. maybe it wasn't huge strides but he's worked on his game nonetheless and you can see it if you were looking for it. he was only throwing to one side of the field at first. then he cut down on the risks and had less picks (when not playing from behind mind you). then his footwork and touch showed some improvement. personally, i think when he drops back he looks pretty smooth out there. but hey, i'm looking for improvement tweaks, not dwelling on his faults that get beat to death here.
one of my favorite attributes of his is his short memory. i think it was phil simms or rich gannon that said in '07 they felt he had the perfect temperament to play QB. that's a big statement IMO, and for an accomplished QB to say it I listen. he's been yanked from starting multiple times yet i've never heard one person remark they are worried "his confidence might be shattered" etc. it's always downplayed that he has nothing to lose, like BJ said. i never worry if he'll bounce back. he's 2,000 miles from home with a fanbase out here the size of a hot dog line at the stadium and he still holds his head high. that's unflappable confidence. that's the type of a leader that people can feed off of. and his laid back attitude>>>when the going gets tough that's the type of personality that will calm down the huddle in a high pressure situation like the playoffs.
those are my favorite things about the guy. go figure, and i didn't even mention his arm.
i disagree jerky. i don't think it's because he has nothing to lose, he has MILLIONS to lose. he airs it out because that's who he is.
you don't think DA is worried about making mistakes, or about being benched? he's been counted out so much...people consider him such a non-factor they think he got where he is by accident or something, like he has no drive or ambition.
i have never wavered on this board in years in saying i've seen improvement from the guy EVERY year. maybe it wasn't huge strides but he's worked on his game nonetheless and you can see it if you were looking for it. he was only throwing to one side of the field at first. then he cut down on the risks and had less picks (when not playing from behind mind you). then his footwork and touch showed some improvement. personally, i think when he drops back he looks pretty smooth out there. but hey, i'm looking for improvement tweaks, not dwelling on his faults that get beat to death here.
one of my favorite attributes of his is his short memory. i think it was phil simms or rich gannon that said in '07 they felt he had the perfect temperament to play QB. that's a big statement IMO, and for an accomplished QB to say it I listen. he's been yanked from starting multiple times yet i've never heard one person remark they are worried "his confidence might be shattered" etc. it's always downplayed that he has nothing to lose, like BJ said. i never worry if he'll bounce back. he's 2,000 miles from home with a fanbase out here the size of a hot dog line at the stadium and he still holds his head high. that's unflappable confidence. that's the type of a leader that people can feed off of. and his laid back attitude>>>when the going gets tough that's the type of personality that will calm down the huddle in a high pressure situation like the playoffs.
those are my favorite things about the guy. go figure, and i didn't even mention his arm.
Great post. I've seen this kid continue to work on his game as well. Yesterday called for airing it out at all cost, and he did. But for those who watched, DA's short passes were much improved and included a bit of touch on the ball as well.
I hope he starts, after getting all the reps and the game plan drawn around him. It's our only chance of offense we have.
Let's work with this kid, he is light years ahead of Quinn.
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I like how BQ boosters are talking about DA falling..... well its was in the 1st quarter 3rd-4 7min 45secs Quinn being pressured in the pocket fell down also.... yet nothing from these guys about that...
Or the first Int from Quinn at 12:25 sec in the first quarter quinn throws an awful pass that leads the ravens in the redzone.....
AFTER a MONTH of Quinn taking the first team reps DA gets thrown into the game against the Ravens..... and actually moves the ball..... making first downs on 3rd downs...
Does he have a penchant for craziness? YES but Daboll does not do him any favors making him nonstop sling the rock when the ravens know it.....
Really what is the difference to a 40 yard bomb that turns into a int versus a dink and dunk that leads to a punt?
from the others teams standpoint they are getting the ball regardless from ours it at least changes the defensive sets to spread the field.
It is up to the play callers to start running the ball at that point and calling screens, and short slant routes....
DA needs to be leashed by good offensive play calling and planning plain and simple.... BUT AT LEAST HE NEEDS TO BE LEASHED.... quinn is like the poodle that you just let out because no one cares if he tries to bite you.
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You know I was really hoping for something after the first half.......but I have to say Stan, DA didn't do anything except hammer in 3 remaining nails into our coffin. He needs to go......bring in Harrison. Sorry.
I also think whoever the QB is.....we have alot more serious problems.
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Man you Retards sure have some stones.
Let's promote the guy who just threw 3 interceptions and nearly another 2 in about 12 throws.
That's a nearly 50% interception rate, that'll win us some games!
Yeehaw!
Fvck that, bring on Ratliff... can't be any worse really.
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