The Official Browns at Steelers Game Thread Dec 8th
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Winston had open guys. But he'd throw to the deeper receiver who had very little chance of catching a pass. And the thing is, he had to look directly past the open guy underneath. And the underneath guy would still have been decent yardage....first downs a couple of times.
We all love the person that Winston is....but are we all coming around to the fact that he is not the future? That he's not the guy that we want as first string next year?
Our D actually did a nice job. They held the Steelers to 267 yards. The one ding I'd give the D is tackling. They did not wrap up the RB's and tackle them. Ward had to make too many RB tackles because the RB's got through the initial tackle attempts.
It was another difficult games to watch....because the back of our minds could tell that we were not going to be able to win this game. Not for one minute throughout that whole game did it look to me like we might win.
Ugh.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Winston had open guys. But he'd throw to the deeper receiver who had very little chance of catching a pass. And the thing is, he had to look directly past the open guy underneath. And the underneath guy would still have been decent yardage....first downs a couple of times.
We all love the person that Winston is....but are we all coming around to the fact that he is not the future? That he's not the guy that we want as first string next year?
Our D actually did a nice job. They held the Steelers to 267 yards. The one ding I'd give the D is tackling. They did not wrap up the RB's and tackle them. Ward had to make too many RB tackles because the RB's got through the initial tackle attempts.
It was another difficult games to watch....because the back of our minds could tell that we were not going to be able to win this game. Not for one minute throughout that whole game did it look to me like we might win.
Ugh.
Winston had open guys. But he'd throw to the deeper receiver who had very little chance of catching a pass. And the thing is, he had to look directly past the open guy underneath. And the underneath guy would still have been decent yardage....first downs a couple of times.
We all love the person that Winston is....but are we all coming around to the fact that he is not the future? That he's not the guy that we want as first string next year?
Our D actually did a nice job. They held the Steelers to 267 yards. The one ding I'd give the D is tackling. They did not wrap up the RB's and tackle them. Ward had to make too many RB tackles because the RB's got through the initial tackle attempts.
It was another difficult games to watch....because the back of our minds could tell that we were not going to be able to win this game. Not for one minute throughout that whole game did it look to me like we might win.
Ugh.
I'm not happy at all with the LBs.
Yeah, JOK is out, maybe forever. But in all honesty, the Browns haven't had a good LB group since 1994, and they play in the AFC North. It's stupid to have a defensive philosophy that ignores such a vital position.
Takitaki wasn't the answer, but he made a play every once in awhile. Today, nada from anybody.
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This team is a dumpster fire, so many problems across the board. At least the Cavs provide sports entertainment.
I just don’t even know where they start in the offseason, so many things to figure out.
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FY56 is a homo.
@horse-balls said:
FY56 is a homo.
Horse balls has a pussy.
Way to get this thread off to a good start asshole.
You wonder why I don't post much anymore? the first 1\2 of the game thread was horseshit like this.
Gee, I still have my Mod powers- should I perma ban that Packer troll? Nah- you guys seem to enjoy insulting one another.
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@horse-balls said:
FY56 is a homo.
Horse balls has a pussy.
Way to get this thread off to a good start asshole.
You wonder why I don't post much anymore? the first 1\2 of the game thread was horseshit like this.
Gee, I still have my Mod powers- should I perma ban that Packer troll? Nah- you guys seem to enjoy insulting one another.
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Now getting back to football. I honestly don't know how much more of this crap football I can take- and if you're interested me and MJP are\were almost exactly the same age.
Two shit interceptions- the first being particularly bad. Two more missed field goals, better clean out your locker Hopkins you're done. A dumb f**k roll out on fourth and a yard- how many times have we gotten stuffed on a play like that? Oh and a muffed punt to top it off. Welcome to the Clown Show.
PS... I;ve been hearing rumors should Jimmuh successfully build his Dum-dum Dome in Berea he's going to try and extort us season ticket holders tens of thousands of dollars to re-up our 100 level seats. Shove it Haslam- I've got better things to spend my money on than that shit product you're consistently putting out there on the field. I may have to even consider not re-upping after yet another disaster of a season. Can't hardly give away tickets in the 100 level this year, even at a 50% discount.
My take? Fire Dorsey now, and Depodesta at the end of the season.
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Now getting back to football. I honestly don't know how much more of this crap football I can take- and if you're interested me and MJP are\were almost exactly the same age.
Two shit interceptions- the first being particularly bad. Two more missed field goals, better clean out your locker Hopkins you're done. A dumb f**k roll out on fourth and a yard- how many times have we gotten stuffed on a play like that? Oh and a muffed punt to top it off. Welcome to the Clown Show.
PS... I;ve been hearing rumors should Jimmuh successfully build his Dum-dum Dome in Berea he's going to try and extort us season ticket holders tens of thousands of dollars to re-up our 100 level seats. Shove it Haslam- I've got better things to spend my money on than that shit product you're consistently putting out there on the field. I may have to even consider not re-upping after yet another disaster of a season. Can't hardly give away tickets in the 100 level this year, even at a 50% discount.
My take? Fire Dorsey now, and Depodesta at the end of the season.
My take? Fire Dorsey now
Nobody is ever going to agree with every play call that a play caller makes.
I'm just glad it's not Stef that's getting the blame anymore. (of course, Stef could've over ruled)
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
@horse-balls said:
FY56 is a homo.
Horse balls has a pussy.
Way to get this thread off to a good start asshole.
You wonder why I don't post much anymore? the first 1\2 of the game thread was horseshit like this.
Gee, I still have my Mod powers- should I perma ban that Packer troll? Nah- you guys seem to enjoy insulting one another.
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Now getting back to football. I honestly don't know how much more of this crap football I can take- and if you're interested me and MJP are\were almost exactly the same age.
Two shit interceptions- the first being particularly bad. Two more missed field goals, better clean out your locker Hopkins you're done. A dumb f**k roll out on fourth and a yard- how many times have we gotten stuffed on a play like that? Oh and a muffed punt to top it off. Welcome to the Clown Show.
PS... I;ve been hearing rumors should Jimmuh successfully build his Dum-dum Dome in Berea he's going to try and extort us season ticket holders tens of thousands of dollars to re-up our 100 level seats. Shove it Haslam- I've got better things to spend my money on than that shit product you're consistently putting out there on the field. I may have to even consider not re-upping after yet another disaster of a season. Can't hardly give away tickets in the 100 level this year, even at a 50% discount.
My take? Fire Dorsey now, and Depodesta at the end of the season.
Now getting back to football. I honestly don't know how much more of this crap football I can take- and if you're interested me and MJP are\were almost exactly the same age.
Two shit interceptions- the first being particularly bad. Two more missed field goals, better clean out your locker Hopkins you're done. A dumb f**k roll out on fourth and a yard- how many times have we gotten stuffed on a play like that? Oh and a muffed punt to top it off. Welcome to the Clown Show.
PS... I;ve been hearing rumors should Jimmuh successfully build his Dum-dum Dome in Berea he's going to try and extort us season ticket holders tens of thousands of dollars to re-up our 100 level seats. Shove it Haslam- I've got better things to spend my money on than that shit product you're consistently putting out there on the field. I may have to even consider not re-upping after yet another disaster of a season. Can't hardly give away tickets in the 100 level this year, even at a 50% discount.
My take? Fire Dorsey now, and Depodesta at the end of the season.
I wasn't going to renew this year but did anyway.
The thing about the Browns office, it's very cold to fans. I'm not sure people are aware of it, but the response I received from my ticket agent really pissed me off. I e mailed about me waiting to send payment in after the draft. I don't think that's such a big deal, to make a request like that. Here's the reply:
Karlis Missed -
Now getting back to football. I honestly don't know how much more of this crap football I can take- and if you're interested me and MJP are\were almost exactly the same age.
Two shit interceptions- the first being particularly bad. Two more missed field goals, better clean out your locker Hopkins you're done. A dumb f**k roll out on fourth and a yard- how many times have we gotten stuffed on a play like that? Oh and a muffed punt to top it off. Welcome to the Clown Show.
PS... I;ve been hearing rumors should Jimmuh successfully build his Dum-dum Dome in Berea he's going to try and extort us season ticket holders tens of thousands of dollars to re-up our 100 level seats. Shove it Haslam- I've got better things to spend my money on than that shit product you're consistently putting out there on the field. I may have to even consider not re-upping after yet another disaster of a season. Can't hardly give away tickets in the 100 level this year, even at a 50% discount.
My take? Fire Dorsey now, and Depodesta at the end of the season.
My take? Fire Dorsey now, and Depodesta at the end of the season.
I'm assuming you mean Berry?
I can't see how a team can swing and miss so horribly on a trade and contract like they did and SOMEONE doesn't pay, but for some reason I have this weird feeling Berry keeps his job.
Edit: Ken Dorsey should be canned, got it. For some reason I thought you had a brain fart and was mixing up John Dorsey for Berry ?
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Nobody is ever going to agree with every play call that a play caller makes.
I'm just glad it's not Stef that's getting the blame anymore. (of course, Stef could've over ruled)
I'd love to see Stefanski actually be able to have a QB drafted that fits his offense.
And no, that definitely is not DTR.
I'd still consider Beck or Allar if they fell in the draft.
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Nobody is ever going to agree with every play call that a play caller makes.
I'm just glad it's not Stef that's getting the blame anymore. (of course, Stef could've over ruled)
I'd love to see Stefanski actually be able to have a QB drafted that fits his offense.
And no, that definitely is not DTR.
I'd still consider Beck or Allar if they fell in the draft.
I'd love to see Stefanski actually be able to have a QB drafted that fits his offense.
And no, that definitely is not DTR.
I'd still consider Beck or Allar if they fell in the draft.
They should can Dorsey for a guy more specialized in the kubiak/shanahan style offense then.
This weird gun slinging RPO thing they got with Dorsey just isn’t stefanskis cup of tea.
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I'd love to see Stefanski actually be able to have a QB drafted that fits his offense.
And no, that definitely is not DTR.
I'd still consider Beck or Allar if they fell in the draft.
They should can Dorsey for a guy more specialized in the kubiak/shanahan style offense then.
This weird gun slinging RPO thing they got with Dorsey just isn’t stefanskis cup of tea.
They should can Dorsey for a guy more specialized in the kubiak/shanahan style offense then.
This weird gun slinging RPO thing they got with Dorsey just isn’t stefanskis cup of tea.
It would be fine if we were running a Traditional WCO
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Now getting back to football. I honestly don't know how much more of this crap football I can take- and if you're interested me and MJP are\were almost exactly the same age.
Two shit interceptions- the first being particularly bad. Two more missed field goals, better clean out your locker Hopkins you're done. A dumb f**k roll out on fourth and a yard- how many times have we gotten stuffed on a play like that? Oh and a muffed punt to top it off. Welcome to the Clown Show.
PS... I;ve been hearing rumors should Jimmuh successfully build his Dum-dum Dome in Berea he's going to try and extort us season ticket holders tens of thousands of dollars to re-up our 100 level seats. Shove it Haslam- I've got better things to spend my money on than that shit product you're consistently putting out there on the field. I may have to even consider not re-upping after yet another disaster of a season. Can't hardly give away tickets in the 100 level this year, even at a 50% discount.
My take? Fire Dorsey now, and Depodesta at the end of the season.
Now getting back to football. I honestly don't know how much more of this crap football I can take- and if you're interested me and MJP are\were almost exactly the same age.
Two shit interceptions- the first being particularly bad. Two more missed field goals, better clean out your locker Hopkins you're done. A dumb f**k roll out on fourth and a yard- how many times have we gotten stuffed on a play like that? Oh and a muffed punt to top it off. Welcome to the Clown Show.
PS... I;ve been hearing rumors should Jimmuh successfully build his Dum-dum Dome in Berea he's going to try and extort us season ticket holders tens of thousands of dollars to re-up our 100 level seats. Shove it Haslam- I've got better things to spend my money on than that shit product you're consistently putting out there on the field. I may have to even consider not re-upping after yet another disaster of a season. Can't hardly give away tickets in the 100 level this year, even at a 50% discount.
My take? Fire Dorsey now, and Depodesta at the end of the season.
I gave up my season tickets. Had them for 19 years. No way I will EVER give JIMMAH another dime of my money.
SELL THE TEAM!!!!!!
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Back to Hopkins, he started this season 13 of 16 of field goals.
He's made 3 of his last 9 FG attempts since.
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@horse-balls said:
FY56 is a homo.
Horse balls has a pussy.
Way to get this thread off to a good start asshole.
You wonder why I don't post much anymore? the first 1\2 of the game thread was horseshit like this.
Gee, I still have my Mod powers- should I perma ban that Packer troll? Nah- you guys seem to enjoy insulting one another.
You wonder why I don't post much anymore? the first 1\2 of the game thread was horseshit like this.
Gee, I still have my Mod powers- should I perma ban that Packer troll? Nah- you guys seem to enjoy insulting one another.
I’m in full agreement Hoorta!
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Hard game to call.... I see both teams as pretty equal despite the contrast in records... 2 things have to happen.... Jameis needs to protect the ball.. I expect a lot of double and triple on JJ... So Njoku has to catch everything tossed his way regardless of the matchup.. Make RW try to beat you and shut down their run game.. Neither Russell or Jameis are getting better at this stage in their careers... Myles disappeared last week... He needs a repeat performance ala two weeks ago against the stools.. The D line has to control the LOS... Kenny and Kevin need not get cute... (I had neighbors who were brothers name Kenny and Kevin) No relation however.. Former LA Chargers coach Brandon Staleys Parents are my neighbors now.. That being said... "Go Browns"
I can’t argue with that, but if you were to take the most important thing that needs NOT to happen, it’s Jameis throwing interceptions.
Without those interceptions in Denver, despite the other flaws, we win that game.
I can’t argue with that, but if you were to take the most important thing that needs NOT to happen, it’s Jameis throwing interceptions.
Without those interceptions in Denver, despite the other flaws, we win that game.
Well I guess I was wrong about this.
Those int’s are not what lost this game. It was a lot more than that.
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I can’t argue with that, but if you were to take the most important thing that needs NOT to happen, it’s Jameis throwing interceptions.
Without those interceptions in Denver, despite the other flaws, we win that game.
Well I guess I was wrong about this.
Those int’s are not what lost this game. It was a lot more than that.
Well I guess I was wrong about this.
Those int’s are not what lost this game. It was a lot more than that.
The INTs are definitely a problem though. The ball is moving down field with Winston. Protection is better. I think Winston will never shake the turnovers.
I attempt to be objective, but it's so damn hard. I have been on the "support Stefanski" side but these mind-blowing pre snap penalties aren't getting any better.
Yet, the team does play hard, just not smart. 3-14 looks probable.
You've got somebody who signed Kadarius Toney, a guy KC let go, after the NYG let him go. If he can't thrive in KC, why bother, really?
So I keep turning back to the owner & front office. Seriously, if we have a "quality control office" with DePodesta, & our roster is littered with low quality or low intellect players, what does Mr DePodesta do ( since 2016)? Can he be demoted? Can he get fired?
All I know is in hindsight, Gregg Williams stepped in after Hue, poof, the pre snap penalties disappeared. Williams is old-school. Maybe old-school isn't effective on today's youth, but the Browns need something like that in the building. Will Jimmy allow it?
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Re: pre-snap penalties.
When you have injuries along your Oline, specifically at your tackle spots, the backups are more likely to draw laundry.
We're tied for #1 in false starts, the overwhelming majority tagged to the Oline. But funny enough, we're bottom 1/3 in holding calls. I would suspect this coaching staff, in an effort to reduce penalty yards and to force the line judge to make more decisive, split second decisions, has instructed this group to try to move on silent counts like we saw at the start of last year.
Holding is 10 yards from the spot of the foul. False start is only 5 yards and dead ball.
The former are absolute drive killers. So if I were forced to choose as a coach, I'd prefer my tackles take the 5 to try and better leverage themselves in pass pro and to put an even more subjective decision that requires faster eyes than holding.
The illegal formations and such are just players losing their heads. With the injuries and lineup changes, I can understand. But you're also professionals as well, so it also causes some eye rolling.
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