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  • I'm sure he's going to be lost on this board after cal posts 163 times about Tyler Warren in the next three months, but the Big Ten has another first round tight end in the coming draft. Here's highlights from his 2023 season, since his '24 was somewhat 'meh' because TTUN's passing attack was roughly at a middle school level. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'm sure he's going to be lost on this board after cal posts 163 times about Tyler Warren in the next three months, but the Big Ten has another first round tight end in the coming draft. Here's highlights from his 2023 season, since his '24 was somewhat 'meh' because TTUN's passing attack was roughly at a middle school level. 

    Warren was a Monster in that Bowl Game last night!  If he plays like that all the time - I'd hate to see him drafted by one of our opponents' in the AFC North!  But, if the dream at QB isn't there where we pick - I'm hoping the best LT in the draft is there...

    I'm worried we're going to overrate a QB in the limited supply of 1st round prospects for a big demand.  That's why I'm looking for a mid round QB to develop.  Unfortunately, all of this counts on a FO I have very few reasons to trust in the draft.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I'm sure he's going to be lost on this board after cal posts 163 times about Tyler Warren in the next three months, but the Big Ten has another first round tight end in the coming draft. Here's highlights from his 2023 season, since his '24 was somewhat 'meh' because TTUN's passing attack was roughly at a middle school level. 

    Warren was a Monster in that Bowl Game last night!  If he plays like that all the time - I'd hate to see him drafted by one of our opponents' in the AFC North!  But, if the dream at QB isn't there where we pick - I'm hoping the best LT in the draft is there...

    I'm worried we're going to overrate a QB in the limited supply of 1st round prospects for a big demand.  That's why I'm looking for a mid round QB to develop.  Unfortunately, all of this counts on a FO I have very few reasons to trust in the draft.  

    @flugel said:

    Warren was a Monster in that Bowl Game last night!  If he plays like that all the time - I'd hate to see him drafted by one of our opponents' in the AFC North!  But, if the dream at QB isn't there where we pick - I'm hoping the best LT in the draft is there...

    I'm worried we're going to overrate a QB in the limited supply of 1st round prospects for a big demand.  That's why I'm looking for a mid round QB to develop.  Unfortunately, all of this counts on a FO I have very few reasons to trust in the draft.  

    Warren is an excellent player and I'd love to have him, I just don't think the Browns are going to trade down all the way into the teens and take him. I like him more than Loveland, but he's an excellent TE too. Ohio State just got them a great TE prospect in the transfer portal from Purdue - he could be a high pick next draft. 

    The Browns could take a QB if they end up with a top 3 pick - when a team is paying one QB a ton of money the easy way to save on the position is to draft one.

    Another guy to watch in this Texas/Arizona State game is LT Kelvin Banks Jr, a first round prospect. Might be able to drop down a little and grab him. 

    Speaking of bowl games, just announced that the Georgia/Notre Dame game tonight has been postponed due to the truck attack on Bourbon Street that left ten dead. 

  • @flugel said:

    Warren was a Monster in that Bowl Game last night!  If he plays like that all the time - I'd hate to see him drafted by one of our opponents' in the AFC North!  But, if the dream at QB isn't there where we pick - I'm hoping the best LT in the draft is there...

    I'm worried we're going to overrate a QB in the limited supply of 1st round prospects for a big demand.  That's why I'm looking for a mid round QB to develop.  Unfortunately, all of this counts on a FO I have very few reasons to trust in the draft.  

    Warren is an excellent player and I'd love to have him, I just don't think the Browns are going to trade down all the way into the teens and take him. I like him more than Loveland, but he's an excellent TE too. Ohio State just got them a great TE prospect in the transfer portal from Purdue - he could be a high pick next draft. 

    The Browns could take a QB if they end up with a top 3 pick - when a team is paying one QB a ton of money the easy way to save on the position is to draft one.

    Another guy to watch in this Texas/Arizona State game is LT Kelvin Banks Jr, a first round prospect. Might be able to drop down a little and grab him. 

    Speaking of bowl games, just announced that the Georgia/Notre Dame game tonight has been postponed due to the truck attack on Bourbon Street that left ten dead. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Warren is an excellent player and I'd love to have him, I just don't think the Browns are going to trade down all the way into the teens and take him. I like him more than Loveland, but he's an excellent TE too. Ohio State just got them a great TE prospect in the transfer portal from Purdue - he could be a high pick next draft. 

    The Browns could take a QB if they end up with a top 3 pick - when a team is paying one QB a ton of money the easy way to save on the position is to draft one.

    Another guy to watch in this Texas/Arizona State game is LT Kelvin Banks Jr, a first round prospect. Might be able to drop down a little and grab him. 

    Speaking of bowl games, just announced that the Georgia/Notre Dame game tonight has been postponed due to the truck attack on Bourbon Street that left ten dead. 

    Agreed!  Man, I couldn't believe waking up to that news about 10 murdered and 35 injured.  These are crazy times...

  • I really wouldn't be upset with the Browns adding another Ohio State DTackle in the upcoming draft to go with Mike Hall in either Tyleik Williams or Ty Hamilton. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Warren is an excellent player and I'd love to have him, I just don't think the Browns are going to trade down all the way into the teens and take him. I like him more than Loveland, but he's an excellent TE too. Ohio State just got them a great TE prospect in the transfer portal from Purdue - he could be a high pick next draft. 

    The Browns could take a QB if they end up with a top 3 pick - when a team is paying one QB a ton of money the easy way to save on the position is to draft one.

    Another guy to watch in this Texas/Arizona State game is LT Kelvin Banks Jr, a first round prospect. Might be able to drop down a little and grab him. 

    Speaking of bowl games, just announced that the Georgia/Notre Dame game tonight has been postponed due to the truck attack on Bourbon Street that left ten dead. 

    Agreed!  Man, I couldn't believe waking up to that news about 10 murdered and 35 injured.  These are crazy times...

    @flugel said:

    Agreed!  Man, I couldn't believe waking up to that news about 10 murdered and 35 injured.  These are crazy times...

    Now 15 dead.

  • @flugel said:

    Agreed!  Man, I couldn't believe waking up to that news about 10 murdered and 35 injured.  These are crazy times...

    Now 15 dead.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Now 15 dead.

    Just awful!  They're gonna try to play the game at 4:00pm ET today. Fingers crossed for a good game and keeping everyone safe in attendance...

  • @flugel said:

    Agreed!  Man, I couldn't believe waking up to that news about 10 murdered and 35 injured.  These are crazy times...

    Now 15 dead.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Now 15 dead.

    I just want to cry...

  • @bob806 said:

    Colorado was down 21-0 at half yesterday.

    I'm not so sure this guy is what people think.

    To be fair, his OLine is dogshit. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    To be fair, his OLine is dogshit. 

    If he wants to be drafted 1st or 2nd overall, he better get used to it.  Brock Purdy went to a team with a good offensive line and the growing pains were minimal considering he was the last pick of the draft.  Believe it or not (and this is often forgotten), when you have a great defense consistently stopping the opponent like SF did - it gave a young, inexperienced QB like Purdy a forgivable margin of error to work with that bad teams/organizations don't provide young QBs like Bryce Young and Caleb Williams with.  Both kids looked pretty culture shocked as rookies.  

    Sometimes, it's not just the OL - it's the organization and the coaching staff as well.   The Buffalo Bills were a classic example of how to develop a young QB - even through inevitable growing pains.  Most recently, they upgraded their OC from Ken Dorsey to Joe Brady.  Result?  He's now one of the leading candidates for MVP especially now that his INT volume decreased significantly this year.  If one looked at their line-up heading into this year - there were no superstar WRs on the perimeter there.  They didn't even get Cooper until about midway through the season; and he's missed games to injury there after after he arrived.

    This may be one of the drafts that a mid-late round QB ends up having more success than either of the 1st 2 off the board. That said, it will probably be by an organization that knows what it's doing.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    To be fair, his OLine is dogshit. 

    If he wants to be drafted 1st or 2nd overall, he better get used to it.  Brock Purdy went to a team with a good offensive line and the growing pains were minimal considering he was the last pick of the draft.  Believe it or not (and this is often forgotten), when you have a great defense consistently stopping the opponent like SF did - it gave a young, inexperienced QB like Purdy a forgivable margin of error to work with that bad teams/organizations don't provide young QBs like Bryce Young and Caleb Williams with.  Both kids looked pretty culture shocked as rookies.  

    Sometimes, it's not just the OL - it's the organization and the coaching staff as well.   The Buffalo Bills were a classic example of how to develop a young QB - even through inevitable growing pains.  Most recently, they upgraded their OC from Ken Dorsey to Joe Brady.  Result?  He's now one of the leading candidates for MVP especially now that his INT volume decreased significantly this year.  If one looked at their line-up heading into this year - there were no superstar WRs on the perimeter there.  They didn't even get Cooper until about midway through the season; and he's missed games to injury there after after he arrived.

    This may be one of the drafts that a mid-late round QB ends up having more success than either of the 1st 2 off the board. That said, it will probably be by an organization that knows what it's doing.  

    @flugel said:

    This may be one of the drafts that a mid-late round QB ends up having more success than either of the 1st 2 off the board. That said, it will probably be by an organization that knows what it's doing. 

    Oh ye of little faith.?

  • I love the idea of investing 1st round draft capital in the TE position while 

    - The Browns have the 7th highest paid player at the position group already on roster

    - Of all TE's currently in the top 15 between catches, total yards and TD's...  only 2 were drafted in the 1st round.  

    Anyhizzle, back to QB's and OT's. 

  • I love the idea of investing 1st round draft capital in the TE position while 

    - The Browns have the 7th highest paid player at the position group already on roster

    - Of all TE's currently in the top 15 between catches, total yards and TD's...  only 2 were drafted in the 1st round.  

    Anyhizzle, back to QB's and OT's. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    I love the idea of investing 1st round draft capital in the TE position while 

    - The Browns have the 7th highest paid player at the position group already on roster

    Thank you.  A 1st round TE with Njoku on the roster would be a luxury pick.  We're in no position to be doing that.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I love the idea of investing 1st round draft capital in the TE position while 

    - The Browns have the 7th highest paid player at the position group already on roster

    Thank you.  A 1st round TE with Njoku on the roster would be a luxury pick.  We're in no position to be doing that.

    @orion said:

    Thank you.  A 1st round TE with Njoku on the roster would be a luxury pick.  We're in no position to be doing that.

    A TE in the first 20 or so picks feels like a move a team that needs a piece on offense to make it more dynamic, not a move by a team that needs to rebuild the roster 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I love the idea of investing 1st round draft capital in the TE position while 

    - The Browns have the 7th highest paid player at the position group already on roster

    Thank you.  A 1st round TE with Njoku on the roster would be a luxury pick.  We're in no position to be doing that.

    @orion said:

    Thank you.  A 1st round TE with Njoku on the roster would be a luxury pick.  We're in no position to be doing that.

    @dutch-oven said:

    A TE in the first 20 or so picks feels like a move a team that needs a piece on offense to make it more dynamic, not a move by a team that needs to rebuild the roster 

     Because that's exactly what it is, a luxury.  One the Browns sadly don't have the capital and roster flexibility to spend on. 

     Not doubting Warren's talent, only saying that it's about the opposite of sensible when you have such clear cut issues along the Oline, QB and running game.  

  • @orion said:

    Thank you.  A 1st round TE with Njoku on the roster would be a luxury pick.  We're in no position to be doing that.

    @dutch-oven said:

    A TE in the first 20 or so picks feels like a move a team that needs a piece on offense to make it more dynamic, not a move by a team that needs to rebuild the roster 

     Because that's exactly what it is, a luxury.  One the Browns sadly don't have the capital and roster flexibility to spend on. 

     Not doubting Warren's talent, only saying that it's about the opposite of sensible when you have such clear cut issues along the Oline, QB and running game.  

    @tiamat63 said:

     Because that's exactly what it is, a luxury.  One the Browns sadly don't have the capital and roster flexibility to spend on. 

     Not doubting Warren's talent, only saying that it's about the opposite of sensible when you have such clear cut issues along the Oline, QB and running game.  

    And DLine, inside and outside. Linebacker too, but not in first round 

  • @tiamat63 said:

     Because that's exactly what it is, a luxury.  One the Browns sadly don't have the capital and roster flexibility to spend on. 

     Not doubting Warren's talent, only saying that it's about the opposite of sensible when you have such clear cut issues along the Oline, QB and running game.  

    And DLine, inside and outside. Linebacker too, but not in first round 

    @dutch-oven said:

    And DLine, inside and outside. Linebacker too, but not in first round 

    If we plan on parting with Myles then we'll certainly need to replace him.   - I know this isn't the way of the NFL world anymore...but I HATE losing a HOF Cleveland Brown.  I'm sorry, but it just doesn't seem right to me.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    And DLine, inside and outside. Linebacker too, but not in first round 

    If we plan on parting with Myles then we'll certainly need to replace him.   - I know this isn't the way of the NFL world anymore...but I HATE losing a HOF Cleveland Brown.  I'm sorry, but it just doesn't seem right to me.  

    @orion said:

    If we plan on parting with Myles then we'll certainly need to replace him.   - I know this isn't the way of the NFL world anymore...but I HATE losing a HOF Cleveland Brown.  I'm sorry, but it just doesn't seem right to me.  

    Even if he stays, he needs the Browns to FINALLY get him a young edge player opposite of him that actually gets the attention of opposing offenses. Also, he just finished his eight season in the NFL. He needs an eventual successor too. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I love the idea of investing 1st round draft capital in the TE position while 

    - The Browns have the 7th highest paid player at the position group already on roster

    Thank you.  A 1st round TE with Njoku on the roster would be a luxury pick.  We're in no position to be doing that.

    @orion said:

    Thank you.  A 1st round TE with Njoku on the roster would be a luxury pick.  We're in no position to be doing that.

    True, that is why I mentioned trading Njoku to add picks, or a pick, in my stupid mock draft....for next year. Njoku isn't anywhere near the TE that Warren will be. What would Njoku bring in a trade? a good bit more than a few years ago....

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I love the idea of investing 1st round draft capital in the TE position while 

    - The Browns have the 7th highest paid player at the position group already on roster

    Thank you.  A 1st round TE with Njoku on the roster would be a luxury pick.  We're in no position to be doing that.

    @orion said:

    Thank you.  A 1st round TE with Njoku on the roster would be a luxury pick.  We're in no position to be doing that.

    Even if Njoku is gone, which i hope he is, we can get good tight ends without spending a 1st rounder on one.

  • @orion said:

    Thank you.  A 1st round TE with Njoku on the roster would be a luxury pick.  We're in no position to be doing that.

    Even if Njoku is gone, which i hope he is, we can get good tight ends without spending a 1st rounder on one.

    @ballpeen said:

    Even if Njoku is gone, which i hope he is, we can get good tight ends without spending a 1st rounder on one.

    Agreed...but why do you wish he is gone?  Injured too often?

  • Man, we really do have a chance at the #1 overall pick.

    New England is playing Buffalo, who will be sitting a lot of their starters. Josh Allen is expected to only play the opening series.

    Tennessee is playing Houston, who also is sitting a lot of their starters, and the Titans are actually favored to win. 

    We all know the Browns aren't beating the Ravens, who need to win.