Currently our 2025 first round pick is....
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We need one. Ward and Sanders aren't worth a top 2 pick. In a non-crappy QB class year, Ward would be a mid to late first round pick and Sanders in the late first/second round.
I feel the same way. But if, for some reason, every other team feels the same way, is either worth the first pick of the Second Round?
Assuming the Browns hold onto that pick.
I feel the same way. But if, for some reason, every other team feels the same way, is either worth the first pick of the Second Round?
Assuming the Browns hold onto that pick.
At #33 if both were there, I'd draft Ward but not Sanders. But I'd say there is no chance either one makes it to round 2.
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An earlier mid round QB growing on me would be Will Howard. But again, I'm not a QB expert - just a fan...
I've asked this question to Buckeye fans before and still haven't received an answer.
Is Will Howard any better than Cardale Jones or J.T. Barrett?
And if not, then what makes him a 'mid round pick'...?
I've asked this question to Buckeye fans before and still haven't received an answer.
Is Will Howard any better than Cardale Jones or J.T. Barrett?
And if not, then what makes him a 'mid round pick'...?
Couldn't tell you. What made Vince Young, Anthony Richardson, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn 1st round picks?
Not that this means anything - he's moved up Kiper's list to the 7th ranked QB.
Cardale Jones was a fill-in starter. Great athlete but my guess is outside of a couple BCS Games or so - he was too inconsistent to trust as the fulltime starter longer term.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Ward would be a mid to late first round pick and Sanders in the late first/second round.
Sorry, but that's the price you pay for a QB. Feel free to kick the can down the road and not pick one.
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An earlier mid round QB growing on me would be Will Howard. But again, I'm not a QB expert - just a fan...
I've asked this question to Buckeye fans before and still haven't received an answer.
Is Will Howard any better than Cardale Jones or J.T. Barrett?
And if not, then what makes him a 'mid round pick'...?
I've asked this question to Buckeye fans before and still haven't received an answer.
Is Will Howard any better than Cardale Jones or J.T. Barrett?
And if not, then what makes him a 'mid round pick'...?
Kurtis Roarke is the QB l like as a mid round guy to get. Tall pocket passer type guy who had a heckuva season for IU. Any thoughts on him?
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An earlier mid round QB growing on me would be Will Howard. But again, I'm not a QB expert - just a fan...
I've asked this question to Buckeye fans before and still haven't received an answer.
Is Will Howard any better than Cardale Jones or J.T. Barrett?
And if not, then what makes him a 'mid round pick'...?
I've asked this question to Buckeye fans before and still haven't received an answer.
Is Will Howard any better than Cardale Jones or J.T. Barrett?
And if not, then what makes him a 'mid round pick'...?
Will seems to have the requisite size (two inches on JT) and I always thought while Barrett wasn’t a shrimp he didn’t stand tall in the pocket. Both had/have leadership qualities you look for in a QB.
Cardale was always a wildcard as a prospect he had 11 starts in college. And he had his infamous line where you wondered is this guy going to study and digest a playbook and run an NFL offense?
Probably an imperfect comparison on both fronts.
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I've asked this question to Buckeye fans before and still haven't received an answer.
Is Will Howard any better than Cardale Jones or J.T. Barrett?
And if not, then what makes him a 'mid round pick'...?
Kurtis Roarke is the QB l like as a mid round guy to get. Tall pocket passer type guy who had a heckuva season for IU. Any thoughts on him?
Kurtis Roarke is the QB l like as a mid round guy to get. Tall pocket passer type guy who had a heckuva season for IU. Any thoughts on him?
And he played with a bad knee all year too (torn ACL) He stood out watching MACtion games last year. Seems like he could have a longish career at the next level.
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Kurtis Roarke is the QB l like as a mid round guy to get. Tall pocket passer type guy who had a heckuva season for IU. Any thoughts on him?
And he played with a bad knee all year too (torn ACL) He stood out watching MACtion games last year. Seems like he could have a longish career at the next level.
And he played with a bad knee all year too (torn ACL) He stood out watching MACtion games last year. Seems like he could have a longish career at the next level.
Yeah l watch some MACtion myself. Go Redhawks! I like that he made the jump to the Big 10 and found success there. Makes me think he could make the jump to the NFL and do ok.
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I was watching today's Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show and they brought up something I hadn't thought of:
Greg Newsome and Martin Emerson are both on their last year of their rookie contracts in 2025. Denzel Ward will be entering his eighth season.
And we know Berry likes him some defensive backs.
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I was watching today's Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show and they brought up something I hadn't thought of:
Greg Newsome and Martin Emerson are both on their last year of their rookie contracts in 2025. Denzel Ward will be entering his eighth season.
And we know Berry likes him some defensive backs.
Greg Newsome and Martin Emerson are both on their last year of their rookie contracts in 2025. Denzel Ward will be entering his eighth season.
And we know Berry likes him some defensive backs.
I know there's a really good CB at the top of the draft but If we're not going to pick a QB, we had better do something about LT. Unless they're planning on putting Dewan Jones over there. Even so, a tackle and a guard somewhere is needed.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
I've asked this question to Buckeye fans before and still haven't received an answer.
Is Will Howard any better than Cardale Jones or J.T. Barrett?
And if not, then what makes him a 'mid round pick'...?
Couldn't tell you. What made Vince Young, Anthony Richardson, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn 1st round picks?
Not that this means anything - he's moved up Kiper's list to the 7th ranked QB.
Cardale Jones was a fill-in starter. Great athlete but my guess is outside of a couple BCS Games or so - he was too inconsistent to trust as the fulltime starter longer term.
Couldn't tell you. What made Vince Young, Anthony Richardson, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn 1st round picks?
This may have been a little rhetorical on your part, but some might need a refresher...
Vince Young - 6'5" 240; the first FBS Player to throw for 3,000 yards and rush for 1,000 yards in a season; was romanticized by the 2006 Rose Bowl - considered one of greatest CFB Games of all-time.
In reality, he was 2006 Offensive Rookie of the Year, and was 30-17 as a starter in TN and quietly had the best NFL career of the quartet.
Anthony Richardson - 6'4" 240; a complete specimen that passes the eye test and duped a drug addict (Jim Irsay) and the NFL's luckiest GM (Chris Ballard) into thinking he was ready for Sundays after only 13 College starts.
Tim Tebow - 6'3" 250; two-time National Champion, at the time, considered to be one of if not the greatest CFB Player of all-time.
Brady Quinn - 6'4" 235; Maxwell Award winner, 37 TDs & 7 INTs as a Senior at ND.
The first three were/are FREAK athletes that could play QB. They relied on their legs in College; can't do that in the NFL. I stand by the belief that most athletic QBs eventually get figured out by DCs and it's game over.
Brady Quinn was the most traditional QB of the bunch. His arrested development in the NFL was probably due to some ineptness in the FO and the the revolving door at HC (I know, shocking for the Browns).
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I've asked this question to Buckeye fans before and still haven't received an answer.
Is Will Howard any better than Cardale Jones or J.T. Barrett?
And if not, then what makes him a 'mid round pick'...?
Couldn't tell you. What made Vince Young, Anthony Richardson, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn 1st round picks?
Not that this means anything - he's moved up Kiper's list to the 7th ranked QB.
Cardale Jones was a fill-in starter. Great athlete but my guess is outside of a couple BCS Games or so - he was too inconsistent to trust as the fulltime starter longer term.
Couldn't tell you. What made Vince Young, Anthony Richardson, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn 1st round picks?
Not that this means anything - he's moved up Kiper's list to the 7th ranked QB.
Cardale Jones was a fill-in starter. Great athlete but my guess is outside of a couple BCS Games or so - he was too inconsistent to trust as the fulltime starter longer term.
All the players you listed had some sort of elite physical talents. Brady at least played in an offense similar to what the Patriots ran at the time. So that 'pro-minded' appeal was there.
Even though there were things he struggled with that were made clear as early as the 2005 bowl season.
Will seems to have the requisite size (two inches on JT) and I always thought while Barrett wasn’t a shrimp he didn’t stand tall in the pocket. Both had/have leadership qualities you look for in a QB.
Cardale was always a wildcard as a prospect he had 11 starts in college. And he had his infamous line where you wondered is this guy going to study and digest a playbook and run an NFL offense?
Probably an imperfect comparison on both fronts.
I suppose my point is made for me. JT produced as much as Howard despite being 6'2. So we're essentially pointing at Will being 6'4 and on a national championship team as the reasons. That would historically value him as a 5th rounder.
Kurtis Roarke is the QB l like as a mid round guy to get. Tall pocket passer type guy who had a heckuva season for IU. Any thoughts on him?
He's on my list, will get back to you. I'm shooting for write-ups on the top 8.
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Couldn't tell you. What made Vince Young, Anthony Richardson, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn 1st round picks?
This may have been a little rhetorical on your part, but some might need a refresher...
Vince Young - 6'5" 240; the first FBS Player to throw for 3,000 yards and rush for 1,000 yards in a season; was romanticized by the 2006 Rose Bowl - considered one of greatest CFB Games of all-time.
In reality, he was 2006 Offensive Rookie of the Year, and was 30-17 as a starter in TN and quietly had the best NFL career of the quartet.
Anthony Richardson - 6'4" 240; a complete specimen that passes the eye test and duped a drug addict (Jim Irsay) and the NFL's luckiest GM (Chris Ballard) into thinking he was ready for Sundays after only 13 College starts.
Tim Tebow - 6'3" 250; two-time National Champion, at the time, considered to be one of if not the greatest CFB Player of all-time.
Brady Quinn - 6'4" 235; Maxwell Award winner, 37 TDs & 7 INTs as a Senior at ND.
The first three were/are FREAK athletes that could play QB. They relied on their legs in College; can't do that in the NFL. I stand by the belief that most athletic QBs eventually get figured out by DCs and it's game over.
Brady Quinn was the most traditional QB of the bunch. His arrested development in the NFL was probably due to some ineptness in the FO and the the revolving door at HC (I know, shocking for the Browns).
This may have been a little rhetorical on your part, but some might need a refresher...
Vince Young - 6'5" 240; the first FBS Player to throw for 3,000 yards and rush for 1,000 yards in a season; was romanticized by the 2006 Rose Bowl - considered one of greatest CFB Games of all-time.
In reality, he was 2006 Offensive Rookie of the Year, and was 30-17 as a starter in TN and quietly had the best NFL career of the quartet.
Anthony Richardson - 6'4" 240; a complete specimen that passes the eye test and duped a drug addict (Jim Irsay) and the NFL's luckiest GM (Chris Ballard) into thinking he was ready for Sundays after only 13 College starts.
Tim Tebow - 6'3" 250; two-time National Champion, at the time, considered to be one of if not the greatest CFB Player of all-time.
Brady Quinn - 6'4" 235; Maxwell Award winner, 37 TDs & 7 INTs as a Senior at ND.
The first three were/are FREAK athletes that could play QB. They relied on their legs in College; can't do that in the NFL. I stand by the belief that most athletic QBs eventually get figured out by DCs and it's game over.
Brady Quinn was the most traditional QB of the bunch. His arrested development in the NFL was probably due to some ineptness in the FO and the the revolving door at HC (I know, shocking for the Browns).
I'm not disputing any of that. My reply of questions pertaining to Tia's question of what makes Will Howard a mid round prospect when Cardale Jones and J.T. Barrett were not. 32 NFL Teams deemed they weren't and who knows - they may also think the same way about Will Howard. We're just having some fun spit balling as fans.
The Browns ended up looking like the only team thinking Brady Quinn was worth trading back up into the back end of round 1 for. What made Quinn the alleged most pro ready QB in his class according to many scouts and draft analysts when he locked onto the 6'5" Jeff Samardzija seemingly 90% of the time besides 27 TD catches in a 2 year stretch? While that looked impressive - it formed a bad habit he perfected and leaned on. It looked like a hard habit for a young prospect like him to break at the next level. The Browns learned this guy didn't have the pre-snap vision that helped to expedite/speed read the progressions at the NFL level. End result? After not being able to beat out journey man DA - he went to Denver to be Tim Tebow's caddy on game day.
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Greg Newsome and Martin Emerson are both on their last year of their rookie contracts in 2025. Denzel Ward will be entering his eighth season.
And we know Berry likes him some defensive backs.
I know there's a really good CB at the top of the draft but If we're not going to pick a QB, we had better do something about LT. Unless they're planning on putting Dewan Jones over there. Even so, a tackle and a guard somewhere is needed.
I know there's a really good CB at the top of the draft but If we're not going to pick a QB, we had better do something about LT. Unless they're planning on putting Dewan Jones over there. Even so, a tackle and a guard somewhere is needed.
I 2nd "rebuild the trenches.'
And LB. Draft 7 of em, two are bound to be good.
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This may have been a little rhetorical on your part, but some might need a refresher...
Vince Young - 6'5" 240; the first FBS Player to throw for 3,000 yards and rush for 1,000 yards in a season; was romanticized by the 2006 Rose Bowl - considered one of greatest CFB Games of all-time.
In reality, he was 2006 Offensive Rookie of the Year, and was 30-17 as a starter in TN and quietly had the best NFL career of the quartet.
Anthony Richardson - 6'4" 240; a complete specimen that passes the eye test and duped a drug addict (Jim Irsay) and the NFL's luckiest GM (Chris Ballard) into thinking he was ready for Sundays after only 13 College starts.
Tim Tebow - 6'3" 250; two-time National Champion, at the time, considered to be one of if not the greatest CFB Player of all-time.
Brady Quinn - 6'4" 235; Maxwell Award winner, 37 TDs & 7 INTs as a Senior at ND.
The first three were/are FREAK athletes that could play QB. They relied on their legs in College; can't do that in the NFL. I stand by the belief that most athletic QBs eventually get figured out by DCs and it's game over.
Brady Quinn was the most traditional QB of the bunch. His arrested development in the NFL was probably due to some ineptness in the FO and the the revolving door at HC (I know, shocking for the Browns).
I'm not disputing any of that. My reply of questions pertaining to Tia's question of what makes Will Howard a mid round prospect when Cardale Jones and J.T. Barrett were not. 32 NFL Teams deemed they weren't and who knows - they may also think the same way about Will Howard. We're just having some fun spit balling as fans.
The Browns ended up looking like the only team thinking Brady Quinn was worth trading back up into the back end of round 1 for. What made Quinn the alleged most pro ready QB in his class according to many scouts and draft analysts when he locked onto the 6'5" Jeff Samardzija seemingly 90% of the time besides 27 TD catches in a 2 year stretch? While that looked impressive - it formed a bad habit he perfected and leaned on. It looked like a hard habit for a young prospect like him to break at the next level. The Browns learned this guy didn't have the pre-snap vision that helped to expedite/speed read the progressions at the NFL level. End result? After not being able to beat out journey man DA - he went to Denver to be Tim Tebow's caddy on game day.
I'm not disputing any of that. My reply of questions pertaining to Tia's question of what makes Will Howard a mid round prospect when Cardale Jones and J.T. Barrett were not. 32 NFL Teams deemed they weren't and who knows - they may also think the same way about Will Howard. We're just having some fun spit balling as fans.
The Browns ended up looking like the only team thinking Brady Quinn was worth trading back up into the back end of round 1 for. What made Quinn the alleged most pro ready QB in his class according to many scouts and draft analysts when he locked onto the 6'5" Jeff Samardzija seemingly 90% of the time besides 27 TD catches in a 2 year stretch? While that looked impressive - it formed a bad habit he perfected and leaned on. It looked like a hard habit for a young prospect like him to break at the next level. The Browns learned this guy didn't have the pre-snap vision that helped to expedite/speed read the progressions at the NFL level. End result? After not being able to beat out journey man DA - he went to Denver to be Tim Tebow's caddy on game day.
Will Howard's career stats. Fair or not, in today's NFL, some would express concern that 80% of those stats are against a K St. schedule.
Cardale Jones career stats
Regarding Brady Quinn, in one of the other threads, someone commented about how much of Johnny Daniel's stats were due to Mike Evans. You hit the nail on the head with Brady Quinn throwing to Jeff Samardzija.
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Couldn't tell you. What made Vince Young, Anthony Richardson, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn 1st round picks?
Not that this means anything - he's moved up Kiper's list to the 7th ranked QB.
Cardale Jones was a fill-in starter. Great athlete but my guess is outside of a couple BCS Games or so - he was too inconsistent to trust as the fulltime starter longer term.
All the players you listed had some sort of elite physical talents. Brady at least played in an offense similar to what the Patriots ran at the time. So that 'pro-minded' appeal was there.
Even though there were things he struggled with that were made clear as early as the 2005 bowl season.
Will seems to have the requisite size (two inches on JT) and I always thought while Barrett wasn’t a shrimp he didn’t stand tall in the pocket. Both had/have leadership qualities you look for in a QB.
Cardale was always a wildcard as a prospect he had 11 starts in college. And he had his infamous line where you wondered is this guy going to study and digest a playbook and run an NFL offense?
Probably an imperfect comparison on both fronts.
I suppose my point is made for me. JT produced as much as Howard despite being 6'2. So we're essentially pointing at Will being 6'4 and on a national championship team as the reasons. That would historically value him as a 5th rounder.
Kurtis Roarke is the QB l like as a mid round guy to get. Tall pocket passer type guy who had a heckuva season for IU. Any thoughts on him?
He's on my list, will get back to you. I'm shooting for write-ups on the top 8.
All the players you listed had some sort of elite physical talents. Brady at least played in an offense similar to what the Patriots ran at the time. So that 'pro-minded' appeal was there.
Even though there were things he struggled with that were made clear as early as the 2005 bowl season.
I suppose my point is made for me. JT produced as much as Howard despite being 6'2. So we're essentially pointing at Will being 6'4 and on a national championship team as the reasons. That would historically value him as a 5th rounder.
He's on my list, will get back to you. I'm shooting for write-ups on the top 8.
production vs. projection at the next level…all three had productive CFB careers.
had to go back to JT highlights…when I say he plays shorter in the pocket. It was because he had a three quarter release so at 6’2’’ a three quarter release can actually play below 6 foot.
The other thing I remember is JT didn’t have great numbers past 20 yards, while I admit pro game is seemingly a 10-20 game. Ball placement was always a concern with JT…to be fair Will too. He had amazing touch on passes and threw what I believed to be a very catchable ball. You didn’t see that prototypical dart on an out pattern in in that 12-15 yard range that scouts say that is an NFL throw. I’ve seen a few of those from Will.And the knock on both Will and JT they had NFL talent superior talent surrounding them. But What did Will do at Kstate? Enough to get an opportunity at OSU.
This will be a tremendous challenge for Will (Texas). This secondary at UT is legit.
I don’t think he’s light years ahead of JT but they are in my eye and what I can remember very different prospects after you take out the intangible leadership quality and football intelligence quality that both seem to have.
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This may have been a little rhetorical on your part, but some might need a refresher...
Vince Young - 6'5" 240; the first FBS Player to throw for 3,000 yards and rush for 1,000 yards in a season; was romanticized by the 2006 Rose Bowl - considered one of greatest CFB Games of all-time.
In reality, he was 2006 Offensive Rookie of the Year, and was 30-17 as a starter in TN and quietly had the best NFL career of the quartet.
Anthony Richardson - 6'4" 240; a complete specimen that passes the eye test and duped a drug addict (Jim Irsay) and the NFL's luckiest GM (Chris Ballard) into thinking he was ready for Sundays after only 13 College starts.
Tim Tebow - 6'3" 250; two-time National Champion, at the time, considered to be one of if not the greatest CFB Player of all-time.
Brady Quinn - 6'4" 235; Maxwell Award winner, 37 TDs & 7 INTs as a Senior at ND.
The first three were/are FREAK athletes that could play QB. They relied on their legs in College; can't do that in the NFL. I stand by the belief that most athletic QBs eventually get figured out by DCs and it's game over.
Brady Quinn was the most traditional QB of the bunch. His arrested development in the NFL was probably due to some ineptness in the FO and the the revolving door at HC (I know, shocking for the Browns).
I'm not disputing any of that. My reply of questions pertaining to Tia's question of what makes Will Howard a mid round prospect when Cardale Jones and J.T. Barrett were not. 32 NFL Teams deemed they weren't and who knows - they may also think the same way about Will Howard. We're just having some fun spit balling as fans.
The Browns ended up looking like the only team thinking Brady Quinn was worth trading back up into the back end of round 1 for. What made Quinn the alleged most pro ready QB in his class according to many scouts and draft analysts when he locked onto the 6'5" Jeff Samardzija seemingly 90% of the time besides 27 TD catches in a 2 year stretch? While that looked impressive - it formed a bad habit he perfected and leaned on. It looked like a hard habit for a young prospect like him to break at the next level. The Browns learned this guy didn't have the pre-snap vision that helped to expedite/speed read the progressions at the NFL level. End result? After not being able to beat out journey man DA - he went to Denver to be Tim Tebow's caddy on game day.
I'm not disputing any of that. My reply of questions pertaining to Tia's question of what makes Will Howard a mid round prospect when Cardale Jones and J.T. Barrett were not. 32 NFL Teams deemed they weren't and who knows - they may also think the same way about Will Howard. We're just having some fun spit balling as fans.
The Browns ended up looking like the only team thinking Brady Quinn was worth trading back up into the back end of round 1 for. What made Quinn the alleged most pro ready QB in his class according to many scouts and draft analysts when he locked onto the 6'5" Jeff Samardzija seemingly 90% of the time besides 27 TD catches in a 2 year stretch? While that looked impressive - it formed a bad habit he perfected and leaned on. It looked like a hard habit for a young prospect like him to break at the next level. The Browns learned this guy didn't have the pre-snap vision that helped to expedite/speed read the progressions at the NFL level. End result? After not being able to beat out journey man DA - he went to Denver to be Tim Tebow's caddy on game day.
I remember just after we drafted Quinn - the ESPN crew had a handful of Samardzija high point catches and then the ugly ball placement on a series of throws…consistently throwing back shoulder on slants…which by the way was his calling card too at the next level along with holding the ball and being unable to process quickly after the primary was covered
I went to his first preseason game against the Lions and he marched the team down the field with a series of check down throws. The buzz was “we found our guy” lol.
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Here's a recently updated Top 10 QB Rankings from Mel Kiper. There's a few I disagree so I imagine some of you will find some head-scratchers. That said, nice to where there's a Will there's a way staring us right between the lookers at #7. If you click on the link below it starts with his Top 10 QBs and then it shows his Top 25 rated players.
The College Football Playoff semifinals are set, meaning only four teams remain in the 12-team bracket. That means prospects around the country are ramping up their preparation for the 2025 NFL Draft, and ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. made some big changes to his Top 10 QB rankings.
Kiper’s top two quarterbacks stayed the same from last week’s update. Colorado star Shedeur Sanders and Miami standout Cam Ward remain No. 1 and No. 2, respectively, after their respective bowl games. But there was plenty of movement the rest of the way, including one player who jumped up four spots to No. 3.
The evaluation process for the 2025 NFL Draft is going to pick up soon ahead of next month’s NFL Scouting Combine. Here’s where Kiper’s Top 10 QB rankings stand ahead of the CFP semifinals.
1. Shedeur Sanders, Colorado
Throughout the year, the debate has been whether Shedeur Sanders would be the top quarterback on the board. Mel Kiper Jr. continues to project him in the top spot following Colorado’s Alamo Bowl loss to BYU.
Sanders completed an impressive 2024 season to close out his college career. He completed 74% of his passes – the best rate in the country – for 4,171 yards and 37 touchdowns, along with just seven interceptions, to help spark Colorado’s turnaround under his father, Deion Sanders.
2. Cam Ward, Miami
The other quarterback consistently discussed atop draft boards, Cam Ward increased his stock in a big way this season. He finished fourth in the Heisman Trophy voting as he led Miami’s high-powered offense.
The former Washington State quarterback put up monster numbers, throwing for 4,313 yards and an FBS-leading 39 touchdowns. He comes in as Mel Kiper Jr.’s No. 2-ranked quarterback in the 2025 NFL Draft, but is sure to be in the conversation for the top pick thanks to his ability to improvise.
3. Jaxson Dart, Ole Miss
The biggest mover in Mel Kiper Jr.’s rankings, Jaxson Dart is now the No. 3-ranked quarterback after coming in at No. 7 just a week ago. The Ole Miss standout completed his historic career in Oxford during Thursday’s Gator Bowl, and his stock is on the rise.
Dart finished his third year under Lane Kiffin on a high note. He set the program record for passing yards, and threw for 4,279 this season to boost his draft stock and create an interesting conversation for evaluators.
4. Jalen Milroe, Alabama
In his first year under Kalen DeBoer, Jalen Milroe had an up-and-down go at Alabama. His evaluation process will surely be one to watch considering his dual-threat ability, and Mel Kiper Jr. ranked him as his No. 4 quarterback in the draft.
Milroe threw for 2,844 yards and 16 touchdowns, along with 11 interceptions, but set a new career-high with 726 rushing yards and 20 touchdowns on the ground. That adds to the intrigue about how teams will assess his stock through the pre-draft process.
5. Carson Beck, Georgia
Perhaps the most interesting evaluation in the draft, Carson Beck started the year as the virtual consensus top quarterback prospect. A rollercoaster season and late injury meant he fell down draft boards, though, and added to the uncertainty around where he’d go after declaring.
Beck threw for 3,485 yards and a career-high 28 touchdowns, but his 12 interceptions led the SEC thanks to a tough stretch mid-season. To make his prospects even more interesting, he suffered a torn UCL in the SEC Championship that required surgery, although Georgia said he should be able to start throwing come spring.
6. Quinn Ewers, Texas
Quinn Ewers presents another intriguing case for evaluators. The Texas quarterback set a career-high with 29 touchdown passes in 13 games, but he also has 11 interceptions to his name amid an up-and-down year.
Ewers delivered when it mattered, though, in the Longhorns’ College Football Playoff quarterfinal game against Arizona State. On 4th-and-13 in overtime, he threw the game-tying touchdown pass to Matthew Golden and proceeded to find Gunnar Helm for the game-winner in the second OT period to send Texas to the Cotton Bowl.
7. Will Howard, Ohio State
Ohio State found a new gear through the College Football Playoff, and Will Howard is a big reason why. He has been red-hot during the postseason and he appears at No. 7 in Mel Kiper Jr.’s Top 10 QB rankings after not making the cut last week.
Howard is in the midst of the best year of his college career after transferring from Kansas State, throwing for 3,498 yards and 32 touchdowns. His connection with true freshman Jeremiah Smith kickstarted the offense through the Buckeyes’ first two CFP games, setting up an exciting matchup against Texas in the Cotton Bowl.
8. Tyler Shough, Louisville
In his seventh year of college football – and only one at Louisville – Tyler Shough delivered the best numbers of his career. He also moved up to No. 8 in Mel Kiper’s Top 10 QB rankings this week amid the shakeup.
Shough threw for 3,149 yards and 23 yards, setting new career-highs in both categories. He previously spent three years at both Oregon and Texas Tech, but could see what lies ahead at the NFL level now that his college days are over.
9. Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
After a decorated career at Ohio, Kurtis Rourke opted to join Curt Cignetti at Indiana in 2024. That led him to a spot in the Top 10 in the Heisman Trophy voting and a College Football Playoff appearance amid the Hoosiers’ historic season.
Rourke threw for 3,042 yards and a career-high 29 touchdowns to help lead the IU offense into the CFP. He also quietly played with a partially torn ACL, NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero reported, which shows his toughness that could make an impression on scouts ahead of the pre-draft process.
10. Riley Leonard, Notre Dame
Another true dual-threat, Riley Leonard has shown his ability to beat teams with both his arm and his legs. That especially proved true in the Sugar Bowl against Georgia when he had 170 total yards – 90 passing and 80 rushing.
Leonard’s legs are a big reason why he’s so dangerous as he totaled 831 rushing yards and 15 touchdowns. But he also showed growth as a passer, completing 66.1% of his passes for 2,383 yards and 18 touchdowns – and he appeared in Mel Kiper Jr.’s Top 10 QB rankings as Notre Dame gets ready for the Orange Bowl.
Here's a recently updated Top 10 QB Rankings from Mel Kiper. There's a few I disagree so I imagine some of you will find some head-scratchers. That said, nice to where there's a Will there's a way staring us right between the lookers at #7. If you click on the link below it starts with his Top 10 QBs and then it shows his Top 25 rated players.
The College Football Playoff semifinals are set, meaning only four teams remain in the 12-team bracket. That means prospects around the country are ramping up their preparation for the 2025 NFL Draft, and ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. made some big changes to his Top 10 QB rankings.
Kiper’s top two quarterbacks stayed the same from last week’s update. Colorado star Shedeur Sanders and Miami standout Cam Ward remain No. 1 and No. 2, respectively, after their respective bowl games. But there was plenty of movement the rest of the way, including one player who jumped up four spots to No. 3.
The evaluation process for the 2025 NFL Draft is going to pick up soon ahead of next month’s NFL Scouting Combine. Here’s where Kiper’s Top 10 QB rankings stand ahead of the CFP semifinals.
1. Shedeur Sanders, Colorado
Throughout the year, the debate has been whether Shedeur Sanders would be the top quarterback on the board. Mel Kiper Jr. continues to project him in the top spot following Colorado’s Alamo Bowl loss to BYU.
Sanders completed an impressive 2024 season to close out his college career. He completed 74% of his passes – the best rate in the country – for 4,171 yards and 37 touchdowns, along with just seven interceptions, to help spark Colorado’s turnaround under his father, Deion Sanders.
2. Cam Ward, Miami
The other quarterback consistently discussed atop draft boards, Cam Ward increased his stock in a big way this season. He finished fourth in the Heisman Trophy voting as he led Miami’s high-powered offense.
The former Washington State quarterback put up monster numbers, throwing for 4,313 yards and an FBS-leading 39 touchdowns. He comes in as Mel Kiper Jr.’s No. 2-ranked quarterback in the 2025 NFL Draft, but is sure to be in the conversation for the top pick thanks to his ability to improvise.
3. Jaxson Dart, Ole Miss
The biggest mover in Mel Kiper Jr.’s rankings, Jaxson Dart is now the No. 3-ranked quarterback after coming in at No. 7 just a week ago. The Ole Miss standout completed his historic career in Oxford during Thursday’s Gator Bowl, and his stock is on the rise.
Dart finished his third year under Lane Kiffin on a high note. He set the program record for passing yards, and threw for 4,279 this season to boost his draft stock and create an interesting conversation for evaluators.
4. Jalen Milroe, Alabama
In his first year under Kalen DeBoer, Jalen Milroe had an up-and-down go at Alabama. His evaluation process will surely be one to watch considering his dual-threat ability, and Mel Kiper Jr. ranked him as his No. 4 quarterback in the draft.
Milroe threw for 2,844 yards and 16 touchdowns, along with 11 interceptions, but set a new career-high with 726 rushing yards and 20 touchdowns on the ground. That adds to the intrigue about how teams will assess his stock through the pre-draft process.
5. Carson Beck, Georgia
Perhaps the most interesting evaluation in the draft, Carson Beck started the year as the virtual consensus top quarterback prospect. A rollercoaster season and late injury meant he fell down draft boards, though, and added to the uncertainty around where he’d go after declaring.
Beck threw for 3,485 yards and a career-high 28 touchdowns, but his 12 interceptions led the SEC thanks to a tough stretch mid-season. To make his prospects even more interesting, he suffered a torn UCL in the SEC Championship that required surgery, although Georgia said he should be able to start throwing come spring.
6. Quinn Ewers, Texas
Quinn Ewers presents another intriguing case for evaluators. The Texas quarterback set a career-high with 29 touchdown passes in 13 games, but he also has 11 interceptions to his name amid an up-and-down year.
Ewers delivered when it mattered, though, in the Longhorns’ College Football Playoff quarterfinal game against Arizona State. On 4th-and-13 in overtime, he threw the game-tying touchdown pass to Matthew Golden and proceeded to find Gunnar Helm for the game-winner in the second OT period to send Texas to the Cotton Bowl.
7. Will Howard, Ohio State
Ohio State found a new gear through the College Football Playoff, and Will Howard is a big reason why. He has been red-hot during the postseason and he appears at No. 7 in Mel Kiper Jr.’s Top 10 QB rankings after not making the cut last week.
Howard is in the midst of the best year of his college career after transferring from Kansas State, throwing for 3,498 yards and 32 touchdowns. His connection with true freshman Jeremiah Smith kickstarted the offense through the Buckeyes’ first two CFP games, setting up an exciting matchup against Texas in the Cotton Bowl.
8. Tyler Shough, Louisville
In his seventh year of college football – and only one at Louisville – Tyler Shough delivered the best numbers of his career. He also moved up to No. 8 in Mel Kiper’s Top 10 QB rankings this week amid the shakeup.
Shough threw for 3,149 yards and 23 yards, setting new career-highs in both categories. He previously spent three years at both Oregon and Texas Tech, but could see what lies ahead at the NFL level now that his college days are over.
9. Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
After a decorated career at Ohio, Kurtis Rourke opted to join Curt Cignetti at Indiana in 2024. That led him to a spot in the Top 10 in the Heisman Trophy voting and a College Football Playoff appearance amid the Hoosiers’ historic season.
Rourke threw for 3,042 yards and a career-high 29 touchdowns to help lead the IU offense into the CFP. He also quietly played with a partially torn ACL, NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero reported, which shows his toughness that could make an impression on scouts ahead of the pre-draft process.
10. Riley Leonard, Notre Dame
Another true dual-threat, Riley Leonard has shown his ability to beat teams with both his arm and his legs. That especially proved true in the Sugar Bowl against Georgia when he had 170 total yards – 90 passing and 80 rushing.
Leonard’s legs are a big reason why he’s so dangerous as he totaled 831 rushing yards and 15 touchdowns. But he also showed growth as a passer, completing 66.1% of his passes for 2,383 yards and 18 touchdowns – and he appeared in Mel Kiper Jr.’s Top 10 QB rankings as Notre Dame gets ready for the Orange Bowl.
Carson Beck has just announced he's entering the transfer portal.
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Here's a recently updated Top 10 QB Rankings from Mel Kiper. There's a few I disagree so I imagine some of you will find some head-scratchers. That said, nice to where there's a Will there's a way staring us right between the lookers at #7. If you click on the link below it starts with his Top 10 QBs and then it shows his Top 25 rated players.
The College Football Playoff semifinals are set, meaning only four teams remain in the 12-team bracket. That means prospects around the country are ramping up their preparation for the 2025 NFL Draft, and ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. made some big changes to his Top 10 QB rankings.
Kiper’s top two quarterbacks stayed the same from last week’s update. Colorado star Shedeur Sanders and Miami standout Cam Ward remain No. 1 and No. 2, respectively, after their respective bowl games. But there was plenty of movement the rest of the way, including one player who jumped up four spots to No. 3.
The evaluation process for the 2025 NFL Draft is going to pick up soon ahead of next month’s NFL Scouting Combine. Here’s where Kiper’s Top 10 QB rankings stand ahead of the CFP semifinals.
1. Shedeur Sanders, Colorado
Throughout the year, the debate has been whether Shedeur Sanders would be the top quarterback on the board. Mel Kiper Jr. continues to project him in the top spot following Colorado’s Alamo Bowl loss to BYU.
Sanders completed an impressive 2024 season to close out his college career. He completed 74% of his passes – the best rate in the country – for 4,171 yards and 37 touchdowns, along with just seven interceptions, to help spark Colorado’s turnaround under his father, Deion Sanders.
2. Cam Ward, Miami
The other quarterback consistently discussed atop draft boards, Cam Ward increased his stock in a big way this season. He finished fourth in the Heisman Trophy voting as he led Miami’s high-powered offense.
The former Washington State quarterback put up monster numbers, throwing for 4,313 yards and an FBS-leading 39 touchdowns. He comes in as Mel Kiper Jr.’s No. 2-ranked quarterback in the 2025 NFL Draft, but is sure to be in the conversation for the top pick thanks to his ability to improvise.
3. Jaxson Dart, Ole Miss
The biggest mover in Mel Kiper Jr.’s rankings, Jaxson Dart is now the No. 3-ranked quarterback after coming in at No. 7 just a week ago. The Ole Miss standout completed his historic career in Oxford during Thursday’s Gator Bowl, and his stock is on the rise.
Dart finished his third year under Lane Kiffin on a high note. He set the program record for passing yards, and threw for 4,279 this season to boost his draft stock and create an interesting conversation for evaluators.
4. Jalen Milroe, Alabama
In his first year under Kalen DeBoer, Jalen Milroe had an up-and-down go at Alabama. His evaluation process will surely be one to watch considering his dual-threat ability, and Mel Kiper Jr. ranked him as his No. 4 quarterback in the draft.
Milroe threw for 2,844 yards and 16 touchdowns, along with 11 interceptions, but set a new career-high with 726 rushing yards and 20 touchdowns on the ground. That adds to the intrigue about how teams will assess his stock through the pre-draft process.
5. Carson Beck, Georgia
Perhaps the most interesting evaluation in the draft, Carson Beck started the year as the virtual consensus top quarterback prospect. A rollercoaster season and late injury meant he fell down draft boards, though, and added to the uncertainty around where he’d go after declaring.
Beck threw for 3,485 yards and a career-high 28 touchdowns, but his 12 interceptions led the SEC thanks to a tough stretch mid-season. To make his prospects even more interesting, he suffered a torn UCL in the SEC Championship that required surgery, although Georgia said he should be able to start throwing come spring.
6. Quinn Ewers, Texas
Quinn Ewers presents another intriguing case for evaluators. The Texas quarterback set a career-high with 29 touchdown passes in 13 games, but he also has 11 interceptions to his name amid an up-and-down year.
Ewers delivered when it mattered, though, in the Longhorns’ College Football Playoff quarterfinal game against Arizona State. On 4th-and-13 in overtime, he threw the game-tying touchdown pass to Matthew Golden and proceeded to find Gunnar Helm for the game-winner in the second OT period to send Texas to the Cotton Bowl.
7. Will Howard, Ohio State
Ohio State found a new gear through the College Football Playoff, and Will Howard is a big reason why. He has been red-hot during the postseason and he appears at No. 7 in Mel Kiper Jr.’s Top 10 QB rankings after not making the cut last week.
Howard is in the midst of the best year of his college career after transferring from Kansas State, throwing for 3,498 yards and 32 touchdowns. His connection with true freshman Jeremiah Smith kickstarted the offense through the Buckeyes’ first two CFP games, setting up an exciting matchup against Texas in the Cotton Bowl.
8. Tyler Shough, Louisville
In his seventh year of college football – and only one at Louisville – Tyler Shough delivered the best numbers of his career. He also moved up to No. 8 in Mel Kiper’s Top 10 QB rankings this week amid the shakeup.
Shough threw for 3,149 yards and 23 yards, setting new career-highs in both categories. He previously spent three years at both Oregon and Texas Tech, but could see what lies ahead at the NFL level now that his college days are over.
9. Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
After a decorated career at Ohio, Kurtis Rourke opted to join Curt Cignetti at Indiana in 2024. That led him to a spot in the Top 10 in the Heisman Trophy voting and a College Football Playoff appearance amid the Hoosiers’ historic season.
Rourke threw for 3,042 yards and a career-high 29 touchdowns to help lead the IU offense into the CFP. He also quietly played with a partially torn ACL, NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero reported, which shows his toughness that could make an impression on scouts ahead of the pre-draft process.
10. Riley Leonard, Notre Dame
Another true dual-threat, Riley Leonard has shown his ability to beat teams with both his arm and his legs. That especially proved true in the Sugar Bowl against Georgia when he had 170 total yards – 90 passing and 80 rushing.
Leonard’s legs are a big reason why he’s so dangerous as he totaled 831 rushing yards and 15 touchdowns. But he also showed growth as a passer, completing 66.1% of his passes for 2,383 yards and 18 touchdowns – and he appeared in Mel Kiper Jr.’s Top 10 QB rankings as Notre Dame gets ready for the Orange Bowl.
Carson Beck has just announced he's entering the transfer portal.
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Allar looking like hell right now.
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Abdul Carter with one arm is looking good tonight.
Travis Hunter... Mason Graham... Will Johnson... Carter...
I really like the first round this year.
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