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  • @tiamat63 said:

    I haven't watched the structure of A&Ms defense or how they deploy him. 

    That said, 315 snaps with 2 sacks and 4 hits over a full season either means the Aggie coaches need to be fired or the Senior Bowl is full of players whose hype won't come close to matching production. 

    See: Leal, DeMarvin 

    Think I'll trust DJ on this one. He's pretty decent at identifying 1st rounders. I'm not claiming he'll be another Myles. That was an easy top of the 1st as has ever been. 2 years running NFL DPOY. Those are generational players. DJ has Stewart going late 1st round. I was thinking if he can just hang into the 2nd, he'd be a good one for Garrett to turn into a great other ender. Nothing like being mentored by the best. I see no QB past the first two that should go before the 3rd round anyway. Not enough talent there this year.

    @texasag1969 said:

     I see no QB past the first two that should go before the 3rd round anyway. Not enough talent there this year.

    In theory I agree, but someone (or multiple someones) are going to inexplicably shoot up the draft. Dart? Milroe? Howard? 

  • @texasag1969 said:

     I see no QB past the first two that should go before the 3rd round anyway. Not enough talent there this year.

    In theory I agree, but someone (or multiple someones) are going to inexplicably shoot up the draft. Dart? Milroe? Howard? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    In theory I agree, but someone (or multiple someones) are going to inexplicably shoot up the draft. Dart? Milroe? Howard? 

    I believe what will be telling is what we do in F.A, if we sign  some scrub at qb to a one year deal, That would lead me to believe we will qb with the second pick

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I haven't watched the structure of A&Ms defense or how they deploy him. 

    That said, 315 snaps with 2 sacks and 4 hits over a full season either means the Aggie coaches need to be fired or the Senior Bowl is full of players whose hype won't come close to matching production. 

    See: Leal, DeMarvin 

    Think I'll trust DJ on this one. He's pretty decent at identifying 1st rounders. I'm not claiming he'll be another Myles. That was an easy top of the 1st as has ever been. 2 years running NFL DPOY. Those are generational players. DJ has Stewart going late 1st round. I was thinking if he can just hang into the 2nd, he'd be a good one for Garrett to turn into a great other ender. Nothing like being mentored by the best. I see no QB past the first two that should go before the 3rd round anyway. Not enough talent there this year.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Think I'll trust DJ on this one. He's pretty decent at identifying 1st rounders. I'm not claiming he'll be another Myles. That was an easy top of the 1st as has ever been. 2 years running NFL DPOY. Those are generational players. DJ has Stewart going late 1st round. I was thinking if he can just hang into the 2nd, he'd be a good one for Garrett to turn into a great other ender. Nothing like being mentored by the best. I see no QB past the first two that should go before the 3rd round anyway. Not enough talent there this year.

    Well, I have just under 3 months before the draft. I'll have to add Stewart to the list.  

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Think I'll trust DJ on this one. He's pretty decent at identifying 1st rounders. I'm not claiming he'll be another Myles. That was an easy top of the 1st as has ever been. 2 years running NFL DPOY. Those are generational players. DJ has Stewart going late 1st round. I was thinking if he can just hang into the 2nd, he'd be a good one for Garrett to turn into a great other ender. Nothing like being mentored by the best. I see no QB past the first two that should go before the 3rd round anyway. Not enough talent there this year.

    Well, I have just under 3 months before the draft. I'll have to add Stewart to the list.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    Well, I have just under 3 months before the draft. I'll have to add Stewart to the list.  

    Be fun to see how he does in the combine compared to Myles. He has some bend to him, but nobody can bend like Myles can. Quickness and speed should show up in the combine. Myles can make him live in the weight room wrestling dinosaurs. LOL!

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Well, I have just under 3 months before the draft. I'll have to add Stewart to the list.  

    Be fun to see how he does in the combine compared to Myles. He has some bend to him, but nobody can bend like Myles can. Quickness and speed should show up in the combine. Myles can make him live in the weight room wrestling dinosaurs. LOL!

    @texasag1969 said:

    Be fun to see how he does in the combine compared to Myles. He has some bend to him, but nobody can bend like Myles can. Quickness and speed should show up in the combine. Myles can make him live in the weight room wrestling dinosaurs. LOL!

    How about this, I'll make you a wager. 

    Having not watched a single snap of Shemar's, I'll give him an eval.  If I end up disagreeing with DJ about him going on the first round, and if I end up being right, you'll give me a like, sub and share? 

    Fair? 

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    @dutch-oven said:

    In theory I agree, but someone (or multiple someones) are going to inexplicably shoot up the draft. Dart? Milroe? Howard? 

    I believe what will be telling is what we do in F.A, if we sign  some scrub at qb to a one year deal, That would lead me to believe we will qb with the second pick

    @syd said:

    I believe what will be telling is what we do in F.A, if we sign  some scrub at qb to a one year deal, That would lead me to believe we will qb with the second pick

    I think that a veteran signed means the Browns won't draft a qb in the first round - they will wait til next year. But who knows. It's the Browns.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Be fun to see how he does in the combine compared to Myles. He has some bend to him, but nobody can bend like Myles can. Quickness and speed should show up in the combine. Myles can make him live in the weight room wrestling dinosaurs. LOL!

    How about this, I'll make you a wager. 

    Having not watched a single snap of Shemar's, I'll give him an eval.  If I end up disagreeing with DJ about him going on the first round, and if I end up being right, you'll give me a like, sub and share? 

    Fair? 

    @tiamat63 said:

    How about this, I'll make you a wager. 

    Having not watched a single snap of Shemar's, I'll give him an eval.  If I end up disagreeing with DJ about him going on the first round, and if I end up being right, you'll give me a like, sub and share.

    Fair?  

    Sure if you can explain the sub and share part. Buy a footlong and split it??

  • @tiamat63 said:

    How about this, I'll make you a wager. 

    Having not watched a single snap of Shemar's, I'll give him an eval.  If I end up disagreeing with DJ about him going on the first round, and if I end up being right, you'll give me a like, sub and share.

    Fair?  

    Sure if you can explain the sub and share part. Buy a footlong and split it??

    @texasag1969 said:

    @tiamat63 said:

    How about this, I'll make you a wager. 

    Having not watched a single snap of Shemar's, I'll give him an eval.  If I end up disagreeing with DJ about him going on the first round, and if I end up being right, you'll give me a like, sub and share.

    Fair?  

    Sure if you can explain the sub and share part. Buy a footlong and split it??

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    I got you covered. 

  • @syd said:

    I believe what will be telling is what we do in F.A, if we sign  some scrub at qb to a one year deal, That would lead me to believe we will qb with the second pick

    I think that a veteran signed means the Browns won't draft a qb in the first round - they will wait til next year. But who knows. It's the Browns.

    @calfoxwc said:

    a veteran signed means the Browns won't draft a qb in the first round - they will wait til next year.

    I don't think that it means that they are waiting for next year to draft a QB.   It would mean that they don't think there is a QB worth drafting ANWHERE NEAR the top of the draft...OR...that the one that they believe will be there at #2 is not worth drafting there.  Next year's draft stock or our drafting position is not predictable anywhere accurately enough to be 'planned' on.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    a veteran signed means the Browns won't draft a qb in the first round - they will wait til next year.

    I don't think that it means that they are waiting for next year to draft a QB.   It would mean that they don't think there is a QB worth drafting ANWHERE NEAR the top of the draft...OR...that the one that they believe will be there at #2 is not worth drafting there.  Next year's draft stock or our drafting position is not predictable anywhere accurately enough to be 'planned' on.

    @orion said:

    Next year's draft stock or our drafting position is not predictable anywhere accurately enough to be 'planned' on.

    Really?-in the top 3 after Myles is gone. Easy prediction for Dutch's game.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Well, I have just under 3 months before the draft. I'll have to add Stewart to the list.  

    Be fun to see how he does in the combine compared to Myles. He has some bend to him, but nobody can bend like Myles can. Quickness and speed should show up in the combine. Myles can make him live in the weight room wrestling dinosaurs. LOL!

    @texasag1969 said:

    Be fun to see how he does in the combine compared to Myles. He has some bend to him, but nobody can bend like Myles can. Quickness and speed should show up in the combine. Myles can make him live in the weight room wrestling dinosaurs. LOL!

    Just to have a little fun with the 12th Man here - why hasn't he already been in the weight room?  Screw the dinosaurs - bend some steel.  Ma son Graham is bench pressing Ford Rangers as we speak.  Is this gonna be a guy that might be in the mood to play football some weeks?  And I don't even know who the Hell we're talking about... 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Be fun to see how he does in the combine compared to Myles. He has some bend to him, but nobody can bend like Myles can. Quickness and speed should show up in the combine. Myles can make him live in the weight room wrestling dinosaurs. LOL!

    Just to have a little fun with the 12th Man here - why hasn't he already been in the weight room?  Screw the dinosaurs - bend some steel.  Ma son Graham is bench pressing Ford Rangers as we speak.  Is this gonna be a guy that might be in the mood to play football some weeks?  And I don't even know who the Hell we're talking about... 

    @flugel said:

    Just to have a little fun with the 12th Man here - why hasn't he already been in the weight room?  Screw the dinosaurs - bend some steel.  Ma son Graham is bench pressing Ford Rangers as we speak.  Is this gonna be a guy that might be in the mood to play football some weeks?  And I don't even know who the Hell we're talking about... 

    Shemar Stewart 6'5" 285 lb Edge  And yeah he does the weights, but nobody takes up residence there like Myles seems to do. Moot point anyway if Myles leaves.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I wonder if anyone has asked McAssHat how Jimmy Clausen is doing lately...? 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I wonder if anyone has asked McAssHat how Jimmy Clausen is doing lately...? 

    @tiamat63 said:

    I wonder if anyone has asked McAssHat how Jimmy Clausen is doing lately...? 

    He was a Clausen fan? Oops.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I wonder if anyone has asked McAssHat how Jimmy Clausen is doing lately...? 

    He was a Clausen fan? Oops.

    @dutch-oven said:

    He was a Clausen fan? Oops.

    Now that I've taken a moment to think, it *might* have been Kiper?  One of those talking heads.  I'll go back and check at some point. 

  • @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    Yes.  We were the first team booked to sit with him.

  • Hard pass on Abdul Carter at the #2 spot. 

  • I'm not saying this is what we should do, but I think the Browns are going QB at #2. I would prefer trading down, but I think they're pulling the trigger here. Ward if he's there, Sanders if Ward goes one. If they think Ward/Sanders is the guy, then shoot your shot I guess. The Browns are so depressing what's the worst that could happen - Ward/Sanders are a bust and we suck for two years and start over in 2027 with Deshaun's contract off the books? We're going to suck the next two years anyways probably with Deshaun's contract, so swing for a homerun if you're going to swing. 

    We all know the big problem - the Browns are ? at developing QB's. 

    The free agent QB's don't make sense, are 1 year bridges, or we don't have the money - Rodgers (washed), Russ (washed), Fields - would be one year bridges. We can't afford Stafford. The Falcons said they are keeping Cousins as a backup unless they're bluffing, and we can't afford that contract - and he might be washed anyways. Sam Darnold will probably get paid by someone with his performance last year. If we pass on QB, we have to go 2-15 next year to get Arch Manning in 2026 unless next year is a deeper QB class and we can snag a Bo Nix type value without a top 2 pick.