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  • The Steelers are not bringing back DangerRuss. 

    https://athlonsports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/free-agency-pittsburgh-steelers-signing-quarterback-russell-wilson-decision-leaked-by-insider-jay-glazer-rumor

    I've had this thought for a few weeks. But this is something the Browns should pursue.  It's the intersectionality of low cost, contract length and personnel - scheme fit that would do well. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    The Steelers are not bringing back DangerRuss. 

    https://athlonsports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/free-agency-pittsburgh-steelers-signing-quarterback-russell-wilson-decision-leaked-by-insider-jay-glazer-rumor

    I've had this thought for a few weeks. But this is something the Browns should pursue.  It's the intersectionality of low cost, contract length and personnel - scheme fit that would do well. 

    Wilson in the Stefanski offense isn’t the worst idea 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    The Steelers are not bringing back DangerRuss. 

    https://athlonsports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/free-agency-pittsburgh-steelers-signing-quarterback-russell-wilson-decision-leaked-by-insider-jay-glazer-rumor

    I've had this thought for a few weeks. But this is something the Browns should pursue.  It's the intersectionality of low cost, contract length and personnel - scheme fit that would do well. 

    Wilson in the Stefanski offense isn’t the worst idea 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Wilson in the Stefanski offense isn’t the worst idea 

    It's as close to Seattle as he can get unless he goes to play for Pete in Vegas. 

    Mobile QB, under center in an outside zone?  You wanted us back to running Stefs offense, this is a good start. 

    He'll be inexpensive, easy to drop, can help show a rookie how to prep and play like a pro. Insures we don't have to start said rookie too quickly.     Yes, he's corny and dorky. But his teammates like him, you don't hear anything bad about him off the field or in the community.    I think it would be foolish to not at least kick the tires and see how he would feel on the fit.   

    I'd rather him than Kirk, who is a strong breeze from being on one leg. 

  • I wish I knew what the team's plan for Watson really is.   I mean, are they going to keep him on the roster for financial reasons, give him the title of backup QB, and make him carry equipment on and off the field?  Or sever ties completely and open up the whole QB room.  Or, God forbid, pretend he'll come back from the injury and work his way back to the starting role.  

    I'm looking for a scenario where we can swipe that Joe Milton kid from the Patriots.

  • I wish I knew what the team's plan for Watson really is.   I mean, are they going to keep him on the roster for financial reasons, give him the title of backup QB, and make him carry equipment on and off the field?  Or sever ties completely and open up the whole QB room.  Or, God forbid, pretend he'll come back from the injury and work his way back to the starting role.  

    I'm looking for a scenario where we can swipe that Joe Milton kid from the Patriots.

    @orion said:

    I wish I knew what the team's plan for Watson really is.   I mean, are they going to keep him on the roster for financial reasons, give him the title of backup QB, and make him carry equipment on and off the field?  Or sever ties completely and open up the whole QB room.  Or, God forbid, pretend he'll come back from the injury and work his way back to the starting role.  

    I'm looking for a scenario where we can swipe that Joe Milton kid from the Patriots.

    I think he’ll be placed on the IR List for all of 2025.

  • @orion said:

    I wish I knew what the team's plan for Watson really is.   I mean, are they going to keep him on the roster for financial reasons, give him the title of backup QB, and make him carry equipment on and off the field?  Or sever ties completely and open up the whole QB room.  Or, God forbid, pretend he'll come back from the injury and work his way back to the starting role.  

    I'm looking for a scenario where we can swipe that Joe Milton kid from the Patriots.

    I think he’ll be placed on the IR List for all of 2025.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I think he’ll be placed on the IR List for all of 2025.

    That's a plan.  

    Can he still be made to carry equipment on and off the field if he's on IR?  🙂  If halfway through the season he starts saying that he's feeling fine, do we have to pull a Monty Python on him and bonk him on the head?  Or can we keep him on IR at will?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I think he’ll be placed on the IR List for all of 2025.

    That's a plan.  

    Can he still be made to carry equipment on and off the field if he's on IR?  🙂  If halfway through the season he starts saying that he's feeling fine, do we have to pull a Monty Python on him and bonk him on the head?  Or can we keep him on IR at will?

    @orion said:

    can we keep him on IR at will?

    🙂  This part was an actual serious question?  Can we just stash him on IR 'cause we heel like it?

  • @orion said:

    can we keep him on IR at will?

    🙂  This part was an actual serious question?  Can we just stash him on IR 'cause we heel like it?

    @orion said:

    🙂  This part was an actual serious question?  Can we just stash him on IR 'cause we heel like it?

    I don't know, and for 2025 I don't think it will matter.

    He had surgery again on the Achilles within the last month. It takes 9-12 months to recover. 

  • I hope the Browns really focus on the OLine and getting some young talent into the RB room this off-season, and get a veteran QB to run Stefanski's offense. I'm fine with either Wilson or Cousins.

    On defense, focus on the front seven. Get strong along the line of scrimmage. 

    Get the "fun" players in 2026. 

  • @orion said:

    🙂  This part was an actual serious question?  Can we just stash him on IR 'cause we heel like it?

    I don't know, and for 2025 I don't think it will matter.

    He had surgery again on the Achilles within the last month. It takes 9-12 months to recover. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I don't know, and for 2025 I don't think it will matter.

    He had surgery again on the Achilles within the last month. It takes 9-12 months to recover. 

    So that would mean that he'd be on IR.  Stashing him on IR keeps the roster free of him taking a spot.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I don't know, and for 2025 I don't think it will matter.

    He had surgery again on the Achilles within the last month. It takes 9-12 months to recover. 

    So that would mean that he'd be on IR.  Stashing him on IR keeps the roster free of him taking a spot.  

    @orion said:

    So that would mean that he'd be on IR.  Stashing him on IR keeps the roster free of him taking a spot.  

    It might also help regarding his cap hit? I don't know, cap numbers and how the cap works is not something I know much about and it's a little too "inside baseball" for me to try and figure out. I thought I read something about how if he misses the whole season the Browns get cap relief. 

  • ...well...let's put it this way...we probably don't need a Punter.  

    QB -  We should view the position as having an empty room.

    RB -  This will be a position in transition.  I've certainly seen enough of Pierre NotSoStrong and Fumbling Foreman.  Ford will be here and Chubb deserves a shot.

    TE -  Need someone besides Njoku that can block and catch.

    WR - Could use a little help.  That Travis Hunter kid could be some help........enough help?  

    OL - IMO, every position group could use help.  LT being at the top of that list.

    DL - DT & DE, 1 ea.

    LB - Yes, How many?  Is JOK going to play anymore?   (hoping he's doing ok...football or no football)

    S  - Yes, very weak position.

    CB - Yes.  We have Ward, and then some high picks that aren't playing to high levels.  That Travis Hunter kid could help here.

    K - Yes.  Apparently the Chargers knew what they were doing when they replaced him.

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    QB is the highest priority whenever you don't have one.  It's just that simple.  Having said that, if you don't value either of the top 2 QB's in the draft.....that Travis Hunter kid possibly checks two boxes for ya.  

    @orion said:

    ...well...let's put it this way...we probably don't need a Punter.  

    QB -  We should view the position as having an empty room.

    RB -  This will be a position in transition.  I've certainly seen enough of Pierre NotSoStrong and Fumbling Foreman.  Ford will be here and Chubb deserves a shot.

    TE -  Need someone besides Njoku that can block and catch.

    WR - Could use a little help.  That Travis Hunter kid could be some help........enough help?  

    OL - IMO, every position group could use help.  LT being at the top of that list.

    DL - DT & DE, 1 ea.

    LB - Yes, How many?  Is JOK going to play anymore?   (hoping he's doing ok...football or no football)

    S  - Yes, very weak position.

    CB - Yes.  We have Ward, and then some high picks that aren't playing to high levels.  That Travis Hunter kid could help here.

    K - Yes.  Apparently the Chargers knew what they were doing when they replaced him.

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    QB is the highest priority whenever you don't have one.  It's just that simple.  Having said that, if you don't value either of the top 2 QB's in the draft.....that Travis Hunter kid possibly checks two boxes for ya.  

    Crazy how well the 2 Harvard grads Berry and DePodesta  have drafted for the Browns

  • @orion said:

    ...well...let's put it this way...we probably don't need a Punter.  

    QB -  We should view the position as having an empty room.

    RB -  This will be a position in transition.  I've certainly seen enough of Pierre NotSoStrong and Fumbling Foreman.  Ford will be here and Chubb deserves a shot.

    TE -  Need someone besides Njoku that can block and catch.

    WR - Could use a little help.  That Travis Hunter kid could be some help........enough help?  

    OL - IMO, every position group could use help.  LT being at the top of that list.

    DL - DT & DE, 1 ea.

    LB - Yes, How many?  Is JOK going to play anymore?   (hoping he's doing ok...football or no football)

    S  - Yes, very weak position.

    CB - Yes.  We have Ward, and then some high picks that aren't playing to high levels.  That Travis Hunter kid could help here.

    K - Yes.  Apparently the Chargers knew what they were doing when they replaced him.

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    QB is the highest priority whenever you don't have one.  It's just that simple.  Having said that, if you don't value either of the top 2 QB's in the draft.....that Travis Hunter kid possibly checks two boxes for ya.  

    Crazy how well the 2 Harvard grads Berry and DePodesta  have drafted for the Browns

    @richiswhere said:

    Crazy how well the 2 Harvard grads Berry and DePodesta  have drafted for the Browns

    Yeah huh?!  Apparently, NFL caliber talent evaluation isn't part of any curriculum there.  

  • Dutch's Hot Take O' The Day:

    John Dorsey's two drafts here in Cleveland were overall pretty mediocre, especially if you consider how well he was set up in 2018. 

  • The Steelers are not bringing back DangerRuss. 

    https://athlonsports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/free-agency-pittsburgh-steelers-signing-quarterback-russell-wilson-decision-leaked-by-insider-jay-glazer-rumor

    I've had this thought for a few weeks. But this is something the Browns should pursue.  It's the intersectionality of low cost, contract length and personnel - scheme fit that would do well. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    The Steelers are not bringing back DangerRuss. 

    https://athlonsports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/free-agency-pittsburgh-steelers-signing-quarterback-russell-wilson-decision-leaked-by-insider-jay-glazer-rumor

    I've had this thought for a few weeks. But this is something the Browns should pursue.  It's the intersectionality of low cost, contract length and personnel - scheme fit that would do well. 

    I wouldn't have a problem with that, not that my opinion carries any weight.

    But I agree.  As Russ has aged, his game has had to change.  He very well could be suited to being a pretty solid trigger man in a Stefanski O. Stefanskis O is pretty QB friendly.  The big key is Stefanski needs to have a fairly experienced QB who understands his limitations and buys in to the plan.

    In terms of us slugs on the board, we reach a point in age where if we are prowling the town bars we have to realize we aren't going to go home with a hot 24 year old.  If we learn to stay inside the parameters of our ability, there are a lot of hot 44 year olds out there.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    The Steelers are not bringing back DangerRuss. 

    https://athlonsports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/free-agency-pittsburgh-steelers-signing-quarterback-russell-wilson-decision-leaked-by-insider-jay-glazer-rumor

    I've had this thought for a few weeks. But this is something the Browns should pursue.  It's the intersectionality of low cost, contract length and personnel - scheme fit that would do well. 

    I wouldn't have a problem with that, not that my opinion carries any weight.

    But I agree.  As Russ has aged, his game has had to change.  He very well could be suited to being a pretty solid trigger man in a Stefanski O. Stefanskis O is pretty QB friendly.  The big key is Stefanski needs to have a fairly experienced QB who understands his limitations and buys in to the plan.

    In terms of us slugs on the board, we reach a point in age where if we are prowling the town bars we have to realize we aren't going to go home with a hot 24 year old.  If we learn to stay inside the parameters of our ability, there are a lot of hot 44 year olds out there.

    @ballpeen said:

    In terms of us slugs on the board, we reach a point in age where if we are prowling the town bars we have to realize we aren't going to go home with a hot 24 year old.  If we learn to stay inside the parameters of our ability, there are a lot of hot 44 year olds out there.

    Or I can just open a fine Cabernet at home and play with the fine 77 y.o. I married 55 years ago this Valentine's Day. And did you know Valentine got in trouble for marrying Roman soldiers to their wives? Back in the day the Romans believed that marriage could take the fight out of them so it was forbidden by the early Christian church. Hence he is tied to the yearly Day of Love.

  • Dutch's Hot Take O' The Day:

    John Dorsey's two drafts here in Cleveland were overall pretty mediocre, especially if you consider how well he was set up in 2018. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Dutch's Hot Take O' The Day:

    John Dorsey's two There in Cleveland were overall pretty mediocre, especially if you consider how well he was set up in 2018. 

    I was going to mention that at one point.  But what he did was trade picks for players, which did help the team somewhat.  The draft is a crap shoot.  Of course, neither approach has worked for us.

  • It's sad. Watson is toast, he never cared about football, not really. The Browns need to cut him, no one will trade for him, Ii'm guessing, and if they do cut him - will anyone be surprised if not one team picks him up?

    The Browns have a pitiful criteria for picking qbs, other players.

    I mean, look at who the Browns have drafted since 2007.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=594409720040360&set=a.549250164556316

    Quarterbacks drafted by the Cleveland Browns since 2000

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    and NOTE: the Browns should have drafted my pick - JOSH ALLEN, this years MVP, but the drafted Baker Mayfield, then scapegoated him after he led them to the playoffs, and whatever the stupid hell that went on with him playing with a sling on him one arm.......

    this qb draft just doesn't inspire me. Drew Allar was my pick, and he's staying in school.

    I think picking up Russell Wilson would work pretty good if he is available, but this draft may very well have him staying with the steelers.

    Seems kinda hopeless.

    btw, Josh Allen was league's MVP.

    and.....

    https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=594409720040360&set=a.549250164556316

  • Dutch's Hot Take O' The Day:

    John Dorsey's two drafts here in Cleveland were overall pretty mediocre, especially if you consider how well he was set up in 2018. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Dutch's Hot Take O' The Day:

    John Dorsey's two drafts here in Cleveland were overall pretty mediocre, especially if you consider how well he was set up in 2018. 

    Maybe so; but I bet he's a big reason Hallmark fired Cupid. 

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    ....Please send us a quarterback Otto.  Our team is falling apart.  

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    ....Please send us a quarterback Otto.  Our team is falling apart.  

    @orion said:

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    ....Please send us a quarterback Otto.  Our team is falling apart.  

    Your prayers have been answered.  Watson the Great is a highly effective completing passes to the Turf Monster and players wearing jerseys colored differently from his