Browns GM: Myles Garrett Won't Be Traded Even If Offer Includes 2 1st-Round Picks
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No way you get a similar player as Myles in this draft,.
The PR disaster will be real if they trade Garrett & release Chubb. See Watson/Baker with we fans.
I'm against either move. These guys need to retire as Browns.
Myles isn't going anywhere.
I can't say the same about Chubb, though. I'd love to see him come back, add a couple young RBs in the draft and have Ford as our 3rd down back. RB by committee.
Myles isn't going anywhere.
I can't say the same about Chubb, though. I'd love to see him come back, add a couple young RBs in the draft and have Ford as our 3rd down back. RB by committee.
Chubb won’t command a big pay day anywhere, I think it’s pretty feasible he comes back here. The organization could really benefit from the PR in keeping a fan favorite around given all their other shit.
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Now what do you think?
Garrett is no Joe Thomas.
I'm very disappointed to say the least. But I also understand that he's aware this is the worst owner and the worst FO in the business with a baseball guy running a football team. I'm speculating when he sat down and listened to their "winning" plan for the future, he saw losers in it. I got stuck on a team like that early in Little League. I was so happy to get picked up by a good team in a higher level the next year. That one competed for 1st place rather than lose all games ridiculously. Yep, hated to abandon my father/assistant coach, but he'd never played a lick and it was time to go. LOL!?
I'm very disappointed to say the least. But I also understand that he's aware this is the worst owner and the worst FO in the business with a baseball guy running a football team. I'm speculating when he sat down and listened to their "winning" plan for the future, he saw losers in it. I got stuck on a team like that early in Little League. I was so happy to get picked up by a good team in a higher level the next year. That one competed for 1st place rather than lose all games ridiculously. Yep, hated to abandon my father/assistant coach, but he'd never played a lick and it was time to go. LOL!?
Haslam has deep pockets which is great, he just needs to back the F up and hire a football guy to run things.
All that to say at least we’re not the panthers.
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Absolutely. Either 3 firsts or 2 and a stud starting player
I doubt 3 first rounders would happen...maybe the Cowboys would do something like that. Jerry is nearing the end. He might be more interested in the here and now over anything in the future. There are some rumblings that Dak might be on his way out of Dallas. Dak is 31, so he should still have 4-5 good years left. Dak and a 1st this year plus whatever we could get next year. A 1st possibly, a 2nd for sure.
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Absolutely. Either 3 firsts or 2 and a stud starting player
I doubt 3 first rounders would happen...maybe the Cowboys would do something like that. Jerry is nearing the end. He might be more interested in the here and now over anything in the future. There are some rumblings that Dak might be on his way out of Dallas. Dak is 31, so he should still have 4-5 good years left. Dak and a 1st this year plus whatever we could get next year. A 1st possibly, a 2nd for sure.
I doubt 3 first rounders would happen...maybe the Cowboys would do something like that. Jerry is nearing the end. He might be more interested in the here and now over anything in the future. There are some rumblings that Dak might be on his way out of Dallas. Dak is 31, so he should still have 4-5 good years left. Dak and a 1st this year plus whatever we could get next year. A 1st possibly, a 2nd for sure.
That would insure that Myles goes from one stupid owner to another wouldn't it?
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I doubt 3 first rounders would happen...maybe the Cowboys would do something like that. Jerry is nearing the end. He might be more interested in the here and now over anything in the future. There are some rumblings that Dak might be on his way out of Dallas. Dak is 31, so he should still have 4-5 good years left. Dak and a 1st this year plus whatever we could get next year. A 1st possibly, a 2nd for sure.
That would insure that Myles goes from one stupid owner to another wouldn't it?
That would insure that Myles goes from one stupid owner to another wouldn't it?
The Cowboys is who he wanted to go to when he was entering the draft.
He might learn the phrase Be careful what you wish for in spades.
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I doubt 3 first rounders would happen...maybe the Cowboys would do something like that. Jerry is nearing the end. He might be more interested in the here and now over anything in the future. There are some rumblings that Dak might be on his way out of Dallas. Dak is 31, so he should still have 4-5 good years left. Dak and a 1st this year plus whatever we could get next year. A 1st possibly, a 2nd for sure.
That would insure that Myles goes from one stupid owner to another wouldn't it?
That would insure that Myles goes from one stupid owner to another wouldn't it?
Yep!
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Absolutely. Either 3 firsts or 2 and a stud starting player
I doubt 3 first rounders would happen...maybe the Cowboys would do something like that. Jerry is nearing the end. He might be more interested in the here and now over anything in the future. There are some rumblings that Dak might be on his way out of Dallas. Dak is 31, so he should still have 4-5 good years left. Dak and a 1st this year plus whatever we could get next year. A 1st possibly, a 2nd for sure.
I doubt 3 first rounders would happen...maybe the Cowboys would do something like that. Jerry is nearing the end. He might be more interested in the here and now over anything in the future. There are some rumblings that Dak might be on his way out of Dallas. Dak is 31, so he should still have 4-5 good years left. Dak and a 1st this year plus whatever we could get next year. A 1st possibly, a 2nd for sure.
As much as I want Myles to stay I'd have to do that trade. Having the DPOY hasn't got us far often. We need a QB.
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I doubt 3 first rounders would happen...maybe the Cowboys would do something like that. Jerry is nearing the end. He might be more interested in the here and now over anything in the future. There are some rumblings that Dak might be on his way out of Dallas. Dak is 31, so he should still have 4-5 good years left. Dak and a 1st this year plus whatever we could get next year. A 1st possibly, a 2nd for sure.
As much as I want Myles to stay I'd have to do that trade. Having the DPOY hasn't got us far often. We need a QB.
As much as I want Myles to stay I'd have to do that trade. Having the DPOY hasn't got us far often. We need a QB.
Same here. A starting calibre QB with 2 first rounds plus the word is that this draft is rich in DE's so maybe we can find someone 80%of Myles too.
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Same here. A starting calibre QB with 2 first rounds plus the word is that this draft is rich in DE's so maybe we can find someone 80%of Myles too.
The possibilities are intriguing. The big problem is I don't see much chance of trading Myles this year before the draft. Maybe June 1 at the earliest. The reality is it will probably have to be a June 1 cut next year. The anchor of the Watson situation along with some other contracts that had money pushed forward have us in a tight spot.
It was at least on paper manageable the next 2 years. This Myles situation has thrown a monkey wrench in to that plan.
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Same here. A starting calibre QB with 2 first rounds plus the word is that this draft is rich in DE's so maybe we can find someone 80%of Myles too.
The possibilities are intriguing. The big problem is I don't see much chance of trading Myles this year before the draft. Maybe June 1 at the earliest. The reality is it will probably have to be a June 1 cut next year. The anchor of the Watson situation along with some other contracts that had money pushed forward have us in a tight spot.
It was at least on paper manageable the next 2 years. This Myles situation has thrown a monkey wrench in to that plan.
The possibilities are intriguing. The big problem is I don't see much chance of trading Myles this year before the draft. Maybe June 1 at the earliest. The reality is it will probably have to be a June 1 cut next year. The anchor of the Watson situation along with some other contracts that had money pushed forward have us in a tight spot.
It was at least on paper manageable the next 2 years. This Myles situation has thrown a monkey wrench in to that plan.
The Browns are not required to trade him, so the monkey wrench really plays out against Myles alone.
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The possibilities are intriguing. The big problem is I don't see much chance of trading Myles this year before the draft. Maybe June 1 at the earliest. The reality is it will probably have to be a June 1 cut next year. The anchor of the Watson situation along with some other contracts that had money pushed forward have us in a tight spot.
It was at least on paper manageable the next 2 years. This Myles situation has thrown a monkey wrench in to that plan.
The Browns are not required to trade him, so the monkey wrench really plays out against Myles alone.
The Browns are not required to trade him, so the monkey wrench really plays out against Myles alone.
Exactly, draft a DE to replace him and he can sit out if he wants. The FO obligation is to the team not his whims.
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I know from the experience of a medial meniscus bucket handle tear of my L knee in racquetball that even after 4 months post surgery of 15 miles a day bicycle riding, I was favoring it when I tried to come back and began to stress the R knee. So I went back to the bike only for another year before coming back. That second year everything was back to normal. And that was around age 60 or so. So I'd damn sure give the much younger Chubb another good shot at it in 2025. I thought from the getgo that 2024 was just too soon for an NFL RB.
Totally agree, even a world class athlete needs time to recover, despite the modern medicine rehab.
He may never return to former form but will definitely get a chance to try. I hope it's here.
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The Browns are not required to trade him, so the monkey wrench really plays out against Myles alone.
Exactly, draft a DE to replace him and he can sit out if he wants. The FO obligation is to the team not his whims.
Exactly, draft a DE to replace him and he can sit out if he wants. The FO obligation is to the team not his whims.
You won't be able to replace Myles. He's a 1st ballot HOF'er. You can get somebody else to play the position, but two TE's won't be following that guy across the formation pre-snap.
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Exactly, draft a DE to replace him and he can sit out if he wants. The FO obligation is to the team not his whims.
You won't be able to replace Myles. He's a 1st ballot HOF'er. You can get somebody else to play the position, but two TE's won't be following that guy across the formation pre-snap.
You won't be able to replace Myles. He's a 1st ballot HOF'er. You can get somebody else to play the position, but two TE's won't be following that guy across the formation pre-snap.
He turns 30 at the end of next season. He's battled through injuries the last two seasons.
There's part of me that wouldn't be surprised if he's one of those rare guys announcers constantly refer to as "ageless" because he's still dominant at 35 years old, there's another part of me that wonders if he's never going to have more value than now. How much longer will Myles stay at the level he's at today?
You're right, the Browns aren't trading him and replacing him most likely with a first-ballot Hall of Famer. But they could replace him with someone who in 2027 is better than he is.
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The possibilities are intriguing. The big problem is I don't see much chance of trading Myles this year before the draft. Maybe June 1 at the earliest. The reality is it will probably have to be a June 1 cut next year. The anchor of the Watson situation along with some other contracts that had money pushed forward have us in a tight spot.
It was at least on paper manageable the next 2 years. This Myles situation has thrown a monkey wrench in to that plan.
The Browns are not required to trade him, so the monkey wrench really plays out against Myles alone.
The Browns are not required to trade him, so the monkey wrench really plays out against Myles alone.
I understand that.
In a perfect situation we could trade him without having to gut some other positions. Myles has made it clear to everybody he doesn't want to play here. He doesn't believe in the FO or his teammates. That being the case, I don't want the guy here. I see more negative than positive. It's not like he accounted for a lot of wins last season. In fairness to him, it is hard to attribute wins to any defensive player.
I also agree on the leverage angle. The only real leverage he has is he doesn't have to agree with signing an extension with any team where he might be traded. As an example he wouldn't sign an extension if we traded him to Carolina where he would with Washington. A refusal to sign the extension would surely reduce the compensation we might receive.
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The Browns are not required to trade him, so the monkey wrench really plays out against Myles alone.
I understand that.
In a perfect situation we could trade him without having to gut some other positions. Myles has made it clear to everybody he doesn't want to play here. He doesn't believe in the FO or his teammates. That being the case, I don't want the guy here. I see more negative than positive. It's not like he accounted for a lot of wins last season. In fairness to him, it is hard to attribute wins to any defensive player.
I also agree on the leverage angle. The only real leverage he has is he doesn't have to agree with signing an extension with any team where he might be traded. As an example he wouldn't sign an extension if we traded him to Carolina where he would with Washington. A refusal to sign the extension would surely reduce the compensation we might receive.
I understand that.
In a perfect situation we could trade him without having to gut some other positions. Myles has made it clear to everybody he doesn't want to play here. He doesn't believe in the FO or his teammates.
To be fair he does not trust the judgement of the FO and the one key teammate they saddled this team with that prevented them ever seeing daylight in regards to playoffs. It isn't teammates he doesn't believe in, it's the bag of beans Watson who won't even be here for this coming year. And when he plays, he's worthless.
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I understand that.
In a perfect situation we could trade him without having to gut some other positions. Myles has made it clear to everybody he doesn't want to play here. He doesn't believe in the FO or his teammates.
To be fair he does not trust the judgement of the FO and the one key teammate they saddled this team with that prevented them ever seeing daylight in regards to playoffs. It isn't teammates he doesn't believe in, it's the bag of beans Watson who won't even be here for this coming year. And when he plays, he's worthless.
To be fair he does not trust the judgement of the FO and the one key teammate they saddled this team with that prevented them ever seeing daylight in regards to playoffs. It isn't teammates he doesn't believe in, it's the bag of beans Watson who won't even be here for this coming year. And when he plays, he's worthless.
I hear ya Aggies - can't blame Myles at all for the mistrust.
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Exactly, draft a DE to replace him and he can sit out if he wants. The FO obligation is to the team not his whims.
You won't be able to replace Myles. He's a 1st ballot HOF'er. You can get somebody else to play the position, but two TE's won't be following that guy across the formation pre-snap.
You won't be able to replace Myles. He's a 1st ballot HOF'er. You can get somebody else to play the position, but two TE's won't be following that guy across the formation pre-snap.
I said 80% of Myles, the Eagles didn't have a Myles on their D line but won them a SB. On the other hand I hope the SB raises the asking price for Myles.
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