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  • R RestinPeace wrote on last edited by
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    With a credible OC/Coach? How do you he doesn't have one and just sucks. The amazing truth is people don't want to admit that may be the reality since they have invested so much emotionally into Quinn.

  • With a credible OC/Coach? How do you he doesn't have one and just sucks. The amazing truth is people don't want to admit that may be the reality since they have invested so much emotionally into Quinn.

    ? Masters wrote on last edited by
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    @restinpeace said:

    With a credible OC/Coach? How do you he doesn't have one and just sucks. The amazing truth is people don't want to admit that may be the reality since they have invested so much emotionally into Quinn.

    You don't determine the reality of 1st RD draft choice QB after 6 NFL starts.

    I heard Frye would be out of the NFL in 2 years too.....

  • @restinpeace said:

    With a credible OC/Coach? How do you he doesn't have one and just sucks. The amazing truth is people don't want to admit that may be the reality since they have invested so much emotionally into Quinn.

    You don't determine the reality of 1st RD draft choice QB after 6 NFL starts.

    I heard Frye would be out of the NFL in 2 years too.....

    R RestinPeace wrote on last edited by
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    Masters said:

    You don't determine the reality of 1st RD draft choice QB after 6 NFL starts.

    I heard Frye would be out of the NFL in 2 years too.....

    Frye essentially is out of the NFL. His career is at rock bottom. Quinn simply doesn't have it and the denial by the 'bots' is telling.

  • With a credible OC/Coach? How do you he doesn't have one and just sucks. The amazing truth is people don't want to admit that may be the reality since they have invested so much emotionally into Quinn.

    ? AdaM wrote on last edited by
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    @restinpeace said:

    With a credible OC/Coach? How do you he doesn't have one and just sucks. The amazing truth is people don't want to admit that may be the reality since they have invested so much emotionally into Quinn.

    Because DA comes in and throws 3 picks, thats how we know dipshit.

  • @restinpeace said:

    With a credible OC/Coach? How do you he doesn't have one and just sucks. The amazing truth is people don't want to admit that may be the reality since they have invested so much emotionally into Quinn.

    Because DA comes in and throws 3 picks, thats how we know dipshit.

    R RestinPeace wrote on last edited by
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    AdaM said:

    Because DA comes in and throws 3 picks, thats how we know dipshit.

    ROLF!!! It is DA, a rusty, DA. Give him some prep with the 1st team and I bet he can lead the Browns to 1-2 TD's vs. the Bengals. We all know he isn't starter quality, but Quinn isn't NFL quality.

  • AdaM said:

    Because DA comes in and throws 3 picks, thats how we know dipshit.

    ROLF!!! It is DA, a rusty, DA. Give him some prep with the 1st team and I bet he can lead the Browns to 1-2 TD's vs. the Bengals. We all know he isn't starter quality, but Quinn isn't NFL quality.

    ? AdaM wrote on last edited by
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    @restinpeace said:

    ROLF!!! It is DA, a rusty, DA. Give him some prep with the 1st team and I bet he can lead the Browns to 1-2 TD's vs. the Bengals. We all know he isn't starter quality, but Quinn isn't NFL quality.

    all i can hear is a blubbering vagina crying.

    STFU. He sure didn't have the rusty excuse week 2 in 07 did he?

  • @restinpeace said:

    ROLF!!! It is DA, a rusty, DA. Give him some prep with the 1st team and I bet he can lead the Browns to 1-2 TD's vs. the Bengals. We all know he isn't starter quality, but Quinn isn't NFL quality.

    all i can hear is a blubbering vagina crying.

    STFU. He sure didn't have the rusty excuse week 2 in 07 did he?

    R RestinPeace wrote on last edited by
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    AdaM said:

    all i can hear is a blubbering vagina crying.

    STFU. He sure didn't have the rusty excuse week 2 in 07 did he?

    STFU? Classy. Keep on whispering to yourself: I believe in you Brady, I believe in you Brady. Do it enough and maybe it will come true(in a dream!!!!!).

  • AdaM said:

    Because DA comes in and throws 3 picks, thats how we know dipshit.

    ROLF!!! It is DA, a rusty, DA. Give him some prep with the 1st team and I bet he can lead the Browns to 1-2 TD's vs. the Bengals. We all know he isn't starter quality, but Quinn isn't NFL quality.

    L lemosley01 wrote on last edited by
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    @restinpeace said:

    ROLF!!! It is DA, a rusty, DA. Give him some prep with the 1st team and I bet he can lead the Browns to 1-2 TD's vs. the Bengals. We all know he isn't starter quality, but Quinn isn't NFL quality.

    Weren't reps overrated (according to yourself and others).

    Now suddenly that's the reason for throwing the ball into TRIPLE coverage, and throwing another pick right to a DB.

    Yeah, it's rust alright. Permanent rust on his brain.

    If Anderson means 6-10 and Quinn means 0-16, then I want Quinn. I don't want some shitty mid-round pick. Give me #1 overall so we can have our choice of ELITE talent.

  • ? AdaM wrote on last edited by
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    Who are you even talking to?

    If you think you are anywhere even remotely close to getting under my skin, you're sorely mistaken.

    But by all means, keep saying Retarded shit in an attempt to rile someone up.

    Have any friends or anything you can go play with?

    And BTW, I'm not "defending" BQ.

    He hasn't done a damn thing yet, but the one thing he has done is WAX Derek Anderson in every aspect. Does that hurt your feelings? You sure do bitch enough to make it seem so.

  • With a credible OC/Coach? How do you he doesn't have one and just sucks. The amazing truth is people don't want to admit that may be the reality since they have invested so much emotionally into Quinn.

    marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
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    @restinpeace said:

    With a credible OC/Coach? How do you he doesn't have one and just sucks. The amazing truth is people don't want to admit that may be the reality since they have invested so much emotionally into Quinn.

    Ok. What do you suggest? All I'm saying is I think the problems he that he has are fixable. Is Brady Quinn the savior no but is any quarterback? Some make glaring differences while most are there not to give the game away to the other team. Very rare to find a QB that is the cure all for a team. At the end of the day is it better to work with a qb that can be coached and wants to win or one that does what he wants and could care less win or lose?

  • @restinpeace said:

    With a credible OC/Coach? How do you he doesn't have one and just sucks. The amazing truth is people don't want to admit that may be the reality since they have invested so much emotionally into Quinn.

    Ok. What do you suggest? All I'm saying is I think the problems he that he has are fixable. Is Brady Quinn the savior no but is any quarterback? Some make glaring differences while most are there not to give the game away to the other team. Very rare to find a QB that is the cure all for a team. At the end of the day is it better to work with a qb that can be coached and wants to win or one that does what he wants and could care less win or lose?

    R RestinPeace wrote on last edited by
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    @marcus said:

    Ok. What do you suggest? All I'm saying is I think the problems he that he has are fixable. Is Brady Quinn the savior no but is any quarterback? Some make glaring differences while most are there not to give the game away to the other team. Very rare to find a QB that is the cure all for a team. At the end of the day is it better to work with a qb that can be coached and wants to win or one that does what he wants and could care less win or lose?

    QB's are the heart and soul of the winners. The Browns need that man. You act like everything can be fixed by "coaching". No it can't. We have some things that require upgrades and nothing else will help.

    This is the attitude I get sick of seeing on this board. Reality comes hard for many.

  • @marcus said:

    Ok. What do you suggest? All I'm saying is I think the problems he that he has are fixable. Is Brady Quinn the savior no but is any quarterback? Some make glaring differences while most are there not to give the game away to the other team. Very rare to find a QB that is the cure all for a team. At the end of the day is it better to work with a qb that can be coached and wants to win or one that does what he wants and could care less win or lose?

    QB's are the heart and soul of the winners. The Browns need that man. You act like everything can be fixed by "coaching". No it can't. We have some things that require upgrades and nothing else will help.

    This is the attitude I get sick of seeing on this board. Reality comes hard for many.

    ? AdaM wrote on last edited by
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    @restinpeace said:

    QB's are the heart and soul of the winners. The Browns need that man. You act like everything can be fixed by "coaching". No it can't. We have some things that require upgrades and nothing else will help.

    This is the attitude I get sick of seeing on this board. Reality comes hard for many.

    Hey Retard. Go get Tom brady, put him behind Alex Mack and watch us STILL go 0-16.

    It aint the QB that needs fixed here. Its the whole damn team. The center and right side of the line is a turnstile (look it up if you have to), we have absolutely no running game to speak of. Which means they stack the box. And BECAUSE our line is so shitty, this prevents any of the deeper passing routes from opening up before the QB is sacked or hurried. THis is quite evidenced by DA throwing into TRIPPLE COVERAGE and still not even getting the ball close to BE. He hurried that throw before BE even looked at him, it was a prayer.

    Because we have no running game, and no opportunity for a passing game, our offense is f--king STUCK.

    This is going to be the absolute worst season in browns history, and no QB could do shit about it.

  • G Greythan wrote on last edited by Greythan
    #16
    Bad arm action which is causing a funky. slow delivery and bad accuracy. We saw this at ND, but it has never gotten better.

    Huh?

    Quinn might not make it in the NFL but the primary reason won't be his delivery. Look around, there are much worse deliveries that have suceeded both past and present. You lost all credibility by starting the thread with this crap.

  • Bad arm action which is causing a funky. slow delivery and bad accuracy. We saw this at ND, but it has never gotten better.

    Huh?

    Quinn might not make it in the NFL but the primary reason won't be his delivery. Look around, there are much worse deliveries that have suceeded both past and present. You lost all credibility by starting the thread with this crap.

    ? AdaM wrote on last edited by
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    @greythan said:

    Huh?

    Quinn might not make it in the NFL but its not because of his delivery. Look around, there are much worse deliveries that have suceeded both past and present. You lost all credibility by starting the thread with this crap.

    He had negative to begin with...

  • @restinpeace said:

    ROLF!!! It is DA, a rusty, DA. Give him some prep with the 1st team and I bet he can lead the Browns to 1-2 TD's vs. the Bengals. We all know he isn't starter quality, but Quinn isn't NFL quality.

    Weren't reps overrated (according to yourself and others).

    Now suddenly that's the reason for throwing the ball into TRIPLE coverage, and throwing another pick right to a DB.

    Yeah, it's rust alright. Permanent rust on his brain.

    If Anderson means 6-10 and Quinn means 0-16, then I want Quinn. I don't want some shitty mid-round pick. Give me #1 overall so we can have our choice of ELITE talent.

    hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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    @lemosley01 said:

    Weren't reps overrated (according to yourself and others).

    Now suddenly that's the reason for throwing the ball into TRIPLE coverage, and throwing another pick right to a DB.

    Yeah, it's rust alright. Permanent rust on his brain.

    If Anderson means 6-10 and Quinn means 0-16, then I want Quinn. I don't want some shitty mid-round pick. Give me #1 overall so we can have our choice of ELITE talent.

    0-16 huh?

    Things better be going in the right direction before draft day if were gonna have a chance at SIGNING a #1 overall pick.

    At this point in time who wants to play for us? Sell high, or take whatever we can get.(players that is)

  • @marcus said:

    Ok. What do you suggest? All I'm saying is I think the problems he that he has are fixable. Is Brady Quinn the savior no but is any quarterback? Some make glaring differences while most are there not to give the game away to the other team. Very rare to find a QB that is the cure all for a team. At the end of the day is it better to work with a qb that can be coached and wants to win or one that does what he wants and could care less win or lose?

    QB's are the heart and soul of the winners. The Browns need that man. You act like everything can be fixed by "coaching". No it can't. We have some things that require upgrades and nothing else will help.

    This is the attitude I get sick of seeing on this board. Reality comes hard for many.

    marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
    #19

    @restinpeace said:

    QB's are the heart and soul of the winners. The Browns need that man. You act like everything can be fixed by "coaching". No it can't. We have some things that require upgrades and nothing else will help.

    This is the attitude I get sick of seeing on this board. Reality comes hard for many.

    Dude...gotta disagree a little with the heart and soul thing. Sure that's the case for some teams i.e. the Pats, Colts, Saints....but what about teams without one. There have been plenty of good teams without your quote unquote superstar.

    I mean you can't honestly tell me that Trent Dilfer lead the Ravens to the Super Bowl. Nor can you say that Brad Johnson lead the Bucs to their Super Bowl. Even the greats had other legends to help the team to victory. Without Lynn Swann, Stallworth (not Dante), or Franco Harris that Terry Bradshaw would've been as good as he turned out to be. How about Joe Montana for example take away Jerry Rice, Brent Jones, John Taylor, and Roger Craig. Suffice to say the Defenses on all these teams were superb. But more importanly they complemented each other. The offense..either they scored points or pushed the ball far enough down the field to pin the other teams offense. The Defense...when they were stuffing teams...they got the offense the ball back.

    It takes so much more than a qb my friend. Can they be a key catalyst...absolutely but the one and only difference between a good team and a bad team...not convinced. All the QB is really required to do...is to take care of the football to the best of his ability. If he's a playmaker...that's a plus. I'd rather see a game manager than a pro bowler if that's what it takes to make the team competitive.

  • @marcus said:

    Ok. What do you suggest? All I'm saying is I think the problems he that he has are fixable. Is Brady Quinn the savior no but is any quarterback? Some make glaring differences while most are there not to give the game away to the other team. Very rare to find a QB that is the cure all for a team. At the end of the day is it better to work with a qb that can be coached and wants to win or one that does what he wants and could care less win or lose?

    QB's are the heart and soul of the winners. The Browns need that man. You act like everything can be fixed by "coaching". No it can't. We have some things that require upgrades and nothing else will help.

    This is the attitude I get sick of seeing on this board. Reality comes hard for many.

    marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
    #20

    @restinpeace said:

    QB's are the heart and soul of the winners. The Browns need that man. You act like everything can be fixed by "coaching". No it can't. We have some things that require upgrades and nothing else will help.

    This is the attitude I get sick of seeing on this board. Reality comes hard for many.

    One other thing. Mechanics are fixed with proper coaching. Will that solve the whole problem no. I was just addressing what was pointed out about Quinn's mechanics.

  • @restinpeace said:

    QB's are the heart and soul of the winners. The Browns need that man. You act like everything can be fixed by "coaching". No it can't. We have some things that require upgrades and nothing else will help.

    This is the attitude I get sick of seeing on this board. Reality comes hard for many.

    One other thing. Mechanics are fixed with proper coaching. Will that solve the whole problem no. I was just addressing what was pointed out about Quinn's mechanics.

    R RestinPeace wrote on last edited by
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    @marcus said:

    One other thing. Mechanics are fixed with proper coaching. Will that solve the whole problem no. I was just addressing what was pointed out about Quinn's mechanics.

    Man, Charlie couldn't even fix Quinn's mechanical problems at ND, they always looked bad. Stop whining what coaching can't fix. The denial is amazing. Quinn is like the pitcher with the "inverted W".

  • mopajiM mopaji wrote on last edited by
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    Oh yes he will be gone. By gone I mean at the bottom of a depth chart or modeling for FLEX. And this idea that coaching can fix a bad arm and mechanics is just wrong. You are born with a good arm and you don't have it, no coach is going to be able to make you throw tighter, more accurate balls. In training camp and in these three games I saw the strangest thing with Brady's throws. The nose of the ball almost points down as it goes. I have to assume it's because he is so ripped that his QB mechanics are all jacked up. I know it sounds like a joke but I am totally serious. I've seen other QBs throw like this but it's only on occasion.But Brady does it everytime he throws the ball. Why?

  • Next YearN Next Year wrote on last edited by
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    ummm im gonna go with a yesssssss! he will be lucky if he is third string somewhere next year...