Kenny Pickett Traded to the Browns
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Your point is valid.
I don't think Pickett is going to be the next Steve Young, nor do I think you are saying that, but sure, it could happen. Lot's of guys had to find their footing.....Moon, Theisman, Flutie, they had to play in Canada for several seasons.
I liked to camp back in the day. I liked to winter camp. If any of you have used some sort of flint or ferro rod to start a fire, sometimes you get the spark to take in a stroke or three. Other times, it was going to be a long, cold, dark night.
If it takes more than 3 strikes with a ferro cerrium rod your technique is all wrong or the weather is real damp... I always get it on the first attempt most times.. it's my fave method of fire starting.. Bic's are instant gratification.. But I love the art of processing wood to make a fire.. It is beautifully organic..
If it takes more than 3 strikes with a ferro cerrium rod your technique is all wrong or the weather is real damp... I always get it on the first attempt most times.. it's my fave method of fire starting.. Bic's are instant gratification.. But I love the art of processing wood to make a fire.. It is beautifully organic..
I love it - it's an art form - I practice out in our woods, in the rain at times. All sorts of tricks.
Pickett might be a pleasant surprise - who knows.
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If it takes more than 3 strikes with a ferro cerrium rod your technique is all wrong or the weather is real damp... I always get it on the first attempt most times.. it's my fave method of fire starting.. Bic's are instant gratification.. But I love the art of processing wood to make a fire.. It is beautifully organic..
I love it - it's an art form - I practice out in our woods, in the rain at times. All sorts of tricks.
Pickett might be a pleasant surprise - who knows.
I love it - it's an art form - I practice out in our woods, in the rain at times. All sorts of tricks.
Pickett might be a pleasant surprise - who knows.
I would love to try my hand at harvesting flint and trying the striker and flint method and try my hand at making char to up my skill set.
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I love it - it's an art form - I practice out in our woods, in the rain at times. All sorts of tricks.
Pickett might be a pleasant surprise - who knows.
I would love to try my hand at harvesting flint and trying the striker and flint method and try my hand at making char to up my skill set.
I would love to try my hand at harvesting flint and trying the striker and flint method and try my hand at making char to up my skill set.
I would find some way of missing somehow and catching a finger with the sharp side of a piece of flint. Think I'll stick to matches. LOL!
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I would find some way of missing somehow and catching a finger with the sharp side of a piece of flint. Think I'll stick to matches. LOL!
A Man has to know his own limitations I suppose.. Unless you are Tool Time Tim!
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I would find some way of missing somehow and catching a finger with the sharp side of a piece of flint. Think I'll stick to matches. LOL!
A Man has to know his own limitations I suppose.. Unless you are Tool Time Tim!
A Man has to know his own limitations I suppose.. Unless you are Tool Time Tim!
My vet neighbor next door has a garage so full of tools that there is no room for his car or truck. I'm now up to about 3 interior small drawers, each of which has a few tools and then lots of strange parts that I have no idea what for. My father was the top international trouble shooter for Mobil oil with his degree in mechanical engineering. His son (me) once score 1/2 of one percentile on mechanical interest on the Kuder Preference Test. And mechanical ability I think lags that a bit. Driving a nail without blackening a thumb is a major accomplishment. ?
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A Man has to know his own limitations I suppose.. Unless you are Tool Time Tim!
My vet neighbor next door has a garage so full of tools that there is no room for his car or truck. I'm now up to about 3 interior small drawers, each of which has a few tools and then lots of strange parts that I have no idea what for. My father was the top international trouble shooter for Mobil oil with his degree in mechanical engineering. His son (me) once score 1/2 of one percentile on mechanical interest on the Kuder Preference Test. And mechanical ability I think lags that a bit. Driving a nail without blackening a thumb is a major accomplishment. ?
My vet neighbor next door has a garage so full of tools that there is no room for his car or truck. I'm now up to about 3 interior small drawers, each of which has a few tools and then lots of strange parts that I have no idea what for. My father was the top international trouble shooter for Mobil oil with his degree in mechanical engineering. His son (me) once score 1/2 of one percentile on mechanical interest on the Kuder Preference Test. And mechanical ability I think lags that a bit. Driving a nail without blackening a thumb is a major accomplishment. ?
Yeah , My old man was like that.. Can't tell you how many times he'd find old TV's on the side of the road and make them like brand new.. Fix a stereo.. a car.. whatever... My Pop was a JOAT's/ MON! A guy who one minute ran a speak easy.. To the next minute guarding Americas first space satellite overnight.. To writing some of the worlds first hand written programs for Lithograph/Mulitigraph in the 60's... Amazing someone could live a life... Do all of that...And all that's left is someone remembering it years later in a private thought... And as weird as this sounds... Like how many years do I have left to invest my fandom of it by way of their terrible mishandling...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
This is Certainly not a strike gold option. If the starter goes down you have Pickett over a guy like DTR. We’ve moved from the absolute worst backup in the league to a serviceable backup. One subtle improvement for a future special teams player (5th round) out of the league in three years.
This is Certainly not a strike gold option. If the starter goes down you have Pickett over a guy like DTR. We’ve moved from the absolute worst backup in the league to a serviceable backup. One subtle improvement for a future special teams player (5th round) out of the league in three years.
I agree. Just like with some QBs sometimes a 5th rounder pans out, but most of the time they are a special teamer. Even if not, at the least we know that Pickett brings immediate value as a good back-up QB. A valuable position. In the here and now, I'll take that over a late 5th round pick we got from the Lions.
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My vet neighbor next door has a garage so full of tools that there is no room for his car or truck. I'm now up to about 3 interior small drawers, each of which has a few tools and then lots of strange parts that I have no idea what for. My father was the top international trouble shooter for Mobil oil with his degree in mechanical engineering. His son (me) once score 1/2 of one percentile on mechanical interest on the Kuder Preference Test. And mechanical ability I think lags that a bit. Driving a nail without blackening a thumb is a major accomplishment. ?
Yeah , My old man was like that.. Can't tell you how many times he'd find old TV's on the side of the road and make them like brand new.. Fix a stereo.. a car.. whatever... My Pop was a JOAT's/ MON! A guy who one minute ran a speak easy.. To the next minute guarding Americas first space satellite overnight.. To writing some of the worlds first hand written programs for Lithograph/Mulitigraph in the 60's... Amazing someone could live a life... Do all of that...And all that's left is someone remembering it years later in a private thought... And as weird as this sounds... Like how many years do I have left to invest my fandom of it by way of their terrible mishandling...
Yeah , My old man was like that.. Can't tell you how many times he'd find old TV's on the side of the road and make them like brand new.. Fix a stereo.. a car.. whatever... My Pop was a JOAT's/ MON! A guy who one minute ran a speak easy.. To the next minute guarding Americas first space satellite overnight.. To writing some of the worlds first hand written programs for Lithograph/Mulitigraph in the 60's... Amazing someone could live a life... Do all of that...And all that's left is someone remembering it years later in a private thought...
Yep, the cycle of life. Dust to dust as the saying goes.
I had to move my brother up here from Florida several weeks ago. As with all of us, age is catching up and health issues were cropping up so it was best for him to move up this way where he has some family. The point in this is my mother-in law passed last Feb at 97, so now we have no real reason to head down to Florida several times a year to visit. My parents retired to the Tampa area, her parents to the Sarasota area, 60 or so miles apart. It made visits easy.
My Dad passed in 95, Mom in 97. Since then I have made it a point to visit their burial wall at least once a year, place some new artificial flowers, and just sit and reflect. I am afraid this last visit a couple of weeks ago might be the last. It may not be, but without a real reason to go, I am afraid it will be just a cold stone in some Cemetary in Largo, Florida. It was pretty emotional for me.
It is what it is. Very few of us humans make a mark deep enough to remain in the history books. I suppose as long as my siblings and I are alive, they remain alive. That will have to do, and in the end, that is good enough.
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My friend, who is a squeelers fan, was so happy when they drafted him. I kept telling him, that Pickett was Colt McCoy. It took him 2 years to agree with me
That was a pretty good comparison.
But at worst, he's a definite upgrade over DTR.
That was a pretty good comparison.
But at worst, he's a definite upgrade over DTR.
Hard to believe Pickett was better than Bradshaw was in the early going of his career. Look at that TD:INT ratio in particular 6:24, 13:22, 12:12, 10:15, 7:8. The completion percentages of 38.1, 54.4, 47.7, 49.4, 45.3. Sometimes it takes a minute or two... Pittsburgh hasn't exactly been lighting it up with anyone else throwing the ball lately either...
NAME SEASON TM GP CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG YDS/G TD INT RTG TD% INT% SCK SCKY 1 
138321838.11,4106.5108.562430.42.811.0252422
1420337354.42,2596.1161.4132259.73.55.9332873
1414730847.71,8876.1134.8121264.13.93.9292374
108918049.41,1836.6118.3101554.55.68.3241865
86714845.37855.398.17855.24.75.410104And here's the other half of our fart smell comparison - Pickett's 2022 & 2023 seasons...
GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD INT LNG SACK RTG 13 245 389 63.0 2,404 6.2 7 9 57 27 76.7 12 201 324 62.0 2,070 6.4 6 4 72 23 81.4 -
It's kind of amazing how bad quarterback coaching must have been back in the day @flugel... it was a totally different game almost, because some of the best QBs had some of the most pedestrian numbers. The passing game really was pretty archaic until the 80s into the 90s.
How desperate were teams in the 70s for a QB? The Browns traded away arguably one of the best WRs ever to the Dolphins for Mike Phipps because their QB Bill Neilsen had two of the most banged up knees in the history of knees, then like SEVEN years later with some of the most godawful stats you'd ever seen the Browns somehow got the Chicago Bears to give them a first round pick for Phipps. That's some stellar QB scouting going on then.
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It's kind of amazing how bad quarterback coaching must have been back in the day @flugel... it was a totally different game almost, because some of the best QBs had some of the most pedestrian numbers. The passing game really was pretty archaic until the 80s into the 90s.
How desperate were teams in the 70s for a QB? The Browns traded away arguably one of the best WRs ever to the Dolphins for Mike Phipps because their QB Bill Neilsen had two of the most banged up knees in the history of knees, then like SEVEN years later with some of the most godawful stats you'd ever seen the Browns somehow got the Chicago Bears to give them a first round pick for Phipps. That's some stellar QB scouting going on then.
It's kind of amazing how bad quarterback coaching must have been back in the day @flugel... it was a totally different game almost, because some of the best QBs had some of the most pedestrian numbers. The passing game really was pretty archaic until the 80s into the 90s.
How desperate were teams in the 70s for a QB? The Browns traded away arguably one of the best WRs ever to the Dolphins for Mike Phipps because their QB Bill Neilsen had two of the most banged up knees in the history of knees, then like SEVEN years later with some of the most godawful stats you'd ever seen the Browns somehow got the Chicago Bears to give them a first round pick for Phipps. That's some stellar QB scouting going on then.
That's true about the coaching Dutch. A very small hand full of teams may have had good QB coaching. Back then, passing wasn't the biggest component of the offense so teams could still win without having one of the elite QBs. In fact, the 72 Dolphins went most of their undefeated season with a backup QB Earl Morrall - who previously backed of Johnny Unitas, Fran Tarkenton, Len Dawson, Y.A. Tittle before he did this for Bob Griese. That 72 season Had both Csonka and Mercury Morris rushing for over 1000 yards apiece in a 14 game season while Jim Kiick was on his 3rd straight season rushing for over 500 yards in part time duty. To keep teams from loading the box - the Cleveland Browns gift wrapped them the 4.3 speed and HOF talent of Paul Warfield to exploit cheatin DBs up into run support. Back then, the NFL didn't hurry the growth and development process of young QBs like we see today. The era we're in today demands early success far more than it did back then.
Today? Everything depends on the pass so that's the oxygen needed to win. And there hasn't been a worse team at drafting QBs than the one we follow. Loved Kosar but that was the 85 Supplemental Draft. Loved Sipe, but he was a 13th round draft pick that was fortunate to have our 3rd overall pick (Mike Phipps from the Warfield trade) fail. He was kind of an accidental success if you will. Just as important as the QB we draft - is the readiness of tis organization and coaching staff to develop him into offense that has somewhat of a love-connection compatibility to the guy's skillset and wiring. Not only that; but give the guy some tools and toys to work with. And how about one of the best LTs in the draft to lock down the blind side? Not impossible...
FWIW, Bradshaw had a long career so the memorable stats for him and Steeler fans came after those stats I shared. My point in showing those stats is to remind us all that some guys take longer than others to develop. Part of that in Pitt was drafting Swann and Stallworth, better OLinemen, and Franco Harris. Aside from that, they began to field a defense that could cause turnovers and give their QB a short field. That got even more frequent with the more HOF guys they drafted.
One thing that has never changed is you are what you draft. I hope Berry is ready to draft near/at the top of every round.
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