2025 Mock Draft from Athlon Sports NFL Draft Preview...
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this is where i spent the weekend, Aice and the Metal God,A little worse for wear but can still bring it
this is where i spent the weekend, Alice and the Metal God,A little worse for wear but can still bring it
Alice Cooper is a good person! And he enjoys playing golf. I believe he was friends with Glen Campbell.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Carrying on my tradition of old school blow hard fan - I bought the very 1st NFL Draft Magazine I could find this year. I usually prefer Lindy's Draft Guide when I compare and contrast each year. I do it mostly to familiarize myself with a lot of guys out there I may not get to watch very often. Anyway, I think we need a QB at #2 and my preference at #2 is Sanders if available so I disagree here with the TWO Round Mock Draft I will share from them and in other spots. If he is already gone, the run on QBs has already begun so it would have to be whatever QB the Browns rate highest between Ward and the rest. Travis Hunter is VERY tempting though... Here's that draft from the mag:
ROUND ONE:
1. TITANS - ABDUL CARTER EDGE PENN STATE
2. BROWNS - TRAVIS HUNTER WR/CB COLORADO
3. GIANTS - CAM WARD QB MIAMI
4. PATRIOTS - WILL CAMPBELL OT LSU
5. JAGUARS - MASON GRAHAM DT MICHIGAN
6. RAIDERS - SHADEUER SANDERS QB COLORADO
7. JETS - WILL JOHNSON CB MICHIGAN
8. PANTHERS - TETAIROA MCMILLEN WR ARIZONA
9. SAINTS - SHEMAR STEWART EDGE TEXAS A&M
10. BEARS - JOSH SIMMONS OT OHIO STATE
11. 49ERS - DERRICK HARMON DL OREGON
12. COWBOYS - LUTHER BURDEN III WR MISSOURI
13. DOLPHINS - MALAKI STARKS S GEORGIA
14. COLTS - TYLER WARREN TE PENN STATE
15. FALCONS - MYKEL WILLIAMS EDGE GEORGIA
16. CARDINALS - KENNETH GRANT DL MICHIGAN
17. BENGALS - JAMES PEARCE JR. EDGE TENNESSEE
18. SEAHAWKS - KELVIN BANKS JR. OT TEXAS
19. BUCCANEERS - JALON WALKER LB GEORGIA
20. BRONCOS - ASHTON JEANTY RB BOISE STATE
21. STEELERS - EMEKA EGBUKA WR OHIO STATE
22. CHARGERS - COLSTON LOVELAND TE MICHIGAN
23. PACKERS - SHAVON REVEL JR. CB EAST CAROLINA
24. VIKINGS - WALTER NOLEN DL OLE MISS
25. TEXANS - TYLER BOOKER OG/C ALABAMA
26. RAMS - JOSH CONERLY JR. OT OREGON
27. RAVENS - ARMAND MEMBOU OG MISSOURI
28. LIONS - NICK SCOURTON EDGE TEXAS A&M
29. COMMANDERS - MIKE GREEN EDGE MARSHALL
30. BILLS - TYLEIK WILLIAMS IDL OHIO STATE
31. EAGLES - JIHAAD CAMPBELL LB ALABAMA
32. CHIEFS - AIREONTAE ERSERY OT MINNESOTA
ROUND 2:
33. BROWNS - JACK SAWYER DE OHIO STATE
34. GIANTS - BENJAMIN MORRISON CB NOTRE DAME
35. TITANS - JALEN ROYALS WR UTAH STATE
36. JAGUARS - DONOVAN JACKSON OG OHIO STATE
37. RAIDERS - KALEB JOHNSON RB IOWA
38. PATRIOTS - MAXWELL HAIRSTON CB KENTUCKY
39. BEARS - JONAH SAVAIINAEA OG/OT ARIZONA
40. SAINTS - JAHDAE BARRON CB TEXAS
41. BEARS - JT TUIMOLOAU EDGE OHIO STATE
42. JETS - CAMERON WILLIAMS OT TEXAS
43. NICK EMMANWORI S SOUTH CAROLINA
44. COWBOYS - OMARION HAMPTON RB NORTH CAROLINA
45. COLTS - TREY AMOS CB OLE MISS
46. FALCONS - DEONE WALKER DL KENTUCKY
47. CARDINALS - MATTHEW GOLDEN WR TEXAS
48. DOLPHINS - CARSON SCHWESINGER LB UCLA
49. BENGALS - ISAIAH BOND WR TEXAS
50. SEAHAWKS - CHRIS PAUL JR. LB OLE MISS
51. BRONCOS - HAROLD FANNIN JR. TE BOWLING GREEN
52. STEELERS - AZAREYE'H THOMAS CB FLORIDA STATE
53. BUCCANEERS - KYLE KENNARD EDGE SOUTH CAROLINA
54. PACKERS - LANDON JACKSON EDGE ARKANSAS
55. CHARGERS - ALFRED COLLINS IDL TEXAS
56. BILLS - PRINCELY UMANMIELEN EDGE OLE MISS
57. PANTHERS - DONOVAN IZEIRUAKU EDGE BOSTON COLLEGE
58. TEXANS - TRE HARRIS WR OLE MISS
59. RAVENS - JACOB PARRISH CB KANSAS STATE
60. LIONS - QUINCY RILEY CB LOUISVILLE
61. COMMANDERS - EMERY JONES JR. OT LSU
62. BILLS - XAVIER WATTS S NOTRE DAME
63. EAGLES - GREY ZABEL OG NORTH DAKOTA STATE
64. CHIEFS - MASON TAYLOR TE LSU
and my preference at #2 is Sanders
you should like this read then
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and my preference at #2 is Sanders
you should like this read then
you should like this read then
I DID like that Syd - it made a lot of sense. It seems a lot easier for him to coach a pocket passer given those examples of success he had had with them so I can see why Stefanski would prefer one. Thanks for sharing that Syd!
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I DID like that Syd - it made a lot of sense. It seems a lot easier for him to coach a pocket passer given those examples of success he had had with them so I can see why Stefanski would prefer one. Thanks for sharing that Syd!
I DID like that Syd - it made a lot of sense. It seems a lot easier for him to coach a pocket passer given those examples of success he had had with them so I can see why Stefanski would prefer one. Thanks for sharing that Syd!
he also is a tough sob, he takes a hit like a man and gets back up
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He was a LT in college right?
I'd have to double check. I got a new job and got WAY behind on my evals, play charting and articles. Going to start playing catchup tomorrow night.
edit: Also, nice to see everyone finally coming around on Sanders. Told you guys quite a long time ago that the Brownies would see it.
Now if I could just get him to cut out the WWE style self promotion and bullshit....
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and my preference at #2 is Sanders
you should like this read then
you should like this read then
From the article:
the organization are up against because of the Deshaun Watson contract mess.....
From an organizational standpoint, Cleveland’s only way out of salary cap purgatory is to land their guy at QB on a rookie contract. They can’t expect to be drafting again this high for a while, and because of Watson’s deal also don’t have the cap space to make a big-ticket signing at QB, which is why they were never in the Matthew Stafford or Sam Darnold sweepstakes....
also know that they won’t have the money to sign a top-tier starter at QB next year, so the situation isn’t changing during the 2026 offseason.
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I really haven't brought up the rookie contract financial aspect of our situation because the more important issue is whether the rookie is worth being picked in the top 5 of the draft. But the reality is, drafting a QB who can get in there and play better than DTR or Winston is about the only way we could have a pretty good QB. And the same would hold for next year...but in theory we will not be this high in the draft order...unless we don't draft a starting QB, and don't sign one better than Pickett. In which case Myles will punch Berry in the face.
I'm beginning to think that Myles was told that they like BOTH Sanders & Ward and that they'll be able to win with either one.
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you should like this read then
From the article:
the organization are up against because of the Deshaun Watson contract mess.....
From an organizational standpoint, Cleveland’s only way out of salary cap purgatory is to land their guy at QB on a rookie contract. They can’t expect to be drafting again this high for a while, and because of Watson’s deal also don’t have the cap space to make a big-ticket signing at QB, which is why they were never in the Matthew Stafford or Sam Darnold sweepstakes....
also know that they won’t have the money to sign a top-tier starter at QB next year, so the situation isn’t changing during the 2026 offseason.
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I really haven't brought up the rookie contract financial aspect of our situation because the more important issue is whether the rookie is worth being picked in the top 5 of the draft. But the reality is, drafting a QB who can get in there and play better than DTR or Winston is about the only way we could have a pretty good QB. And the same would hold for next year...but in theory we will not be this high in the draft order...unless we don't draft a starting QB, and don't sign one better than Pickett. In which case Myles will punch Berry in the face.
I'm beginning to think that Myles was told that they like BOTH Sanders & Ward and that they'll be able to win with either one.
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Alice Cooper is a good person! And he enjoys playing golf. I believe he was friends with Glen Campbell.
He does. Maybe 35 or more years ago I played in golf tournament with a friend in Phoenix AZ. He lived out there and I was visiting and hooked up with him to play in his club tournament at the Pima golf and country club. Alice Cooper was in the group right in front of us. At a couple of back-ups we had a chance to chat.
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Alice Cooper is a good person! And he enjoys playing golf. I believe he was friends with Glen Campbell.
He does. Maybe 35 or more years ago I played in golf tournament with a friend in Phoenix AZ. He lived out there and I was visiting and hooked up with him to play in his club tournament at the Pima golf and country club. Alice Cooper was in the group right in front of us. At a couple of back-ups we had a chance to chat.
He does. Maybe 35 or more years ago I played in golf tournament with a friend in Phoenix AZ. He lived out there and I was visiting and hooked up with him to play in his club tournament at the Pima golf and country club. Alice Cooper was in the group right in front of us. At a couple of back-ups we had a chance to chat.
When my Dad was working in South Africa many, many years ago, he got a chance to play with Gary Player. My Dad wormed the first driver on the 1st hole out of pure nervousness on getting to play with such a great golfer. Player threw another ball out to the T box with a grin saying, "You've heard of Mulligans right Jim?" He relaxed with that and hit it around 275 to the middle of the fairway, then said, "Thanks for the tip!" They enjoyed the rest of the day as my Dad got to pick his brain along the way.
BTW I personally hate the damn game and am glad I can still play a decent game of racquetball as I near my 78th this coming Friday.?
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He does. Maybe 35 or more years ago I played in golf tournament with a friend in Phoenix AZ. He lived out there and I was visiting and hooked up with him to play in his club tournament at the Pima golf and country club. Alice Cooper was in the group right in front of us. At a couple of back-ups we had a chance to chat.
When my Dad was working in South Africa many, many years ago, he got a chance to play with Gary Player. My Dad wormed the first driver on the 1st hole out of pure nervousness on getting to play with such a great golfer. Player threw another ball out to the T box with a grin saying, "You've heard of Mulligans right Jim?" He relaxed with that and hit it around 275 to the middle of the fairway, then said, "Thanks for the tip!" They enjoyed the rest of the day as my Dad got to pick his brain along the way.
BTW I personally hate the damn game and am glad I can still play a decent game of racquetball as I near my 78th this coming Friday.?
BTW I personally hate the damn game and am glad I can still play a decent game of racquetball as I near my 78th this coming Friday.?
im 60 and can still play a great game of beer pong,happy birthday
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So Tyler Shough was my mid-round QB who could be the long-term backup and if we're lucky break out and be a starter guy.
But it sounds like he might creep up higher than I'd want the Browns to take him. He's a seven year college player with great size and a great arm. He's 26 years old.
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So Tyler Shough was my mid-round QB who could be the long-term backup and if we're lucky break out and be a starter guy.
But it sounds like he might creep up higher than I'd want the Browns to take him. He's a seven year college player with great size and a great arm. He's 26 years old.
So Tyler Shough was my mid-round QB who could be the long-term backup and if we're lucky break out and be a starter guy.
But it sounds like he might creep up higher than I'd want the Browns to take him. He's a seven year college player with great size and a great arm. He's 26 years old.
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So Tyler Shough was my mid-round QB who could be the long-term backup and if we're lucky break out and be a starter guy.
But it sounds like he might creep up higher than I'd want the Browns to take him. He's a seven year college player with great size and a great arm. He's 26 years old.
Sometimes I have to remind myself that somehow this woman has made money covering the game of football and offering her opinion.
It's fucking wild the dumb shit people are comfortable saying.
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Sometimes I have to remind myself that somehow this woman has made money covering the game of football and offering her opinion.
It's fucking wild the dumb shit people are comfortable saying.
I still recall a caller on Greg Brinda's show on 850 AM asking Brinda why Ryan Pontribriand - who was the long snapper at the time - just wasn't made the starting center too...
"Hmm... that's a good question." Brinda replied.
240lb Ryan Pontribriand, starting center for the Cleveland Browns in the 21st century.
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Sometimes I have to remind myself that somehow this woman has made money covering the game of football and offering her opinion.
It's fucking wild the dumb shit people are comfortable saying.
I still recall a caller on Greg Brinda's show on 850 AM asking Brinda why Ryan Pontribriand - who was the long snapper at the time - just wasn't made the starting center too...
"Hmm... that's a good question." Brinda replied.
240lb Ryan Pontribriand, starting center for the Cleveland Browns in the 21st century.
I still recall a caller on Greg Brinda's show on 850 AM asking Brinda why Ryan Pontribriand - who was the long snapper at the time - just wasn't made the starting center too...
"Hmm... that's a good question." Brinda replied.
240lb Ryan Pontribriand, starting center for the Cleveland Browns in the 21st century.
It's scary the amount of people who offer their most serious football opinions on something they have little to no idea(s) about.
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Browns target Jalen Milroe shines at Pro Day
Milroe finished his Pro Day by competing in throwing drills. The script was created by Milroe’s quarterback coach Jordan Palmer. The two have been in the lab refining Milroe’s footwork during the draft season. Milroe’s hard work paid off. Milroe was accurate in drills, he threw 52 passes completing 45 of them. Milroe has the arm strength to make any throw on the field, but his feet being misaligned is a significant source of his inaccuracy
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...and he ran an unverified 4.37 40.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Browns target Jalen Milroe shines at Pro Day
Milroe finished his Pro Day by competing in throwing drills. The script was created by Milroe’s quarterback coach Jordan Palmer. The two have been in the lab refining Milroe’s footwork during the draft season. Milroe’s hard work paid off. Milroe was accurate in drills, he threw 52 passes completing 45 of them. Milroe has the arm strength to make any throw on the field, but his feet being misaligned is a significant source of his inaccuracy
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...and he ran an unverified 4.37 40.
Browns target Jalen Milroe shines at Pro Day
Milroe finished his Pro Day by competing in throwing drills. The script was created by Milroe’s quarterback coach Jordan Palmer. The two have been in the lab refining Milroe’s footwork during the draft season. Milroe’s hard work paid off. Milroe was accurate in drills, he threw 52 passes completing 45 of them. Milroe has the arm strength to make any throw on the field, but his feet being misaligned is a significant source of his inaccuracy
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...and he ran an unverified 4.37 40.
So why wasn't he developed while he was playing there? Pass!
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Browns target Jalen Milroe shines at Pro Day
Milroe finished his Pro Day by competing in throwing drills. The script was created by Milroe’s quarterback coach Jordan Palmer. The two have been in the lab refining Milroe’s footwork during the draft season. Milroe’s hard work paid off. Milroe was accurate in drills, he threw 52 passes completing 45 of them. Milroe has the arm strength to make any throw on the field, but his feet being misaligned is a significant source of his inaccuracy
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...and he ran an unverified 4.37 40.
Browns target Jalen Milroe shines at Pro Day
Milroe finished his Pro Day by competing in throwing drills. The script was created by Milroe’s quarterback coach Jordan Palmer. The two have been in the lab refining Milroe’s footwork during the draft season. Milroe’s hard work paid off. Milroe was accurate in drills, he threw 52 passes completing 45 of them. Milroe has the arm strength to make any throw on the field, but his feet being misaligned is a significant source of his inaccuracy
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...and he ran an unverified 4.37 40.
Milroe's arm strength isn't the issue.
His athletic ability isn't the issue.
When he sets his feet and steps into a throw, it's not an issue. He can throw a pretty pass at times.
He is an average processor of defensive information both pre and post snap with little to no year over year improvement. That is his 1st, 2nd and 3rd issue. A pro day is only going to mask that giant red flag.
Johnny Manziel had an amazing pro day, never forget that.
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