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  • Easy to accept responsibility when there's no one to hold you accountable 

    @mld-woody said:

    Easy to accept responsibility when there's no one to hold you accountable 

    He put himself in a " time out" lol. 

  • A AP1

    DW was a "swing and miss"

    It feels refreshing for him to admit this. Hopefully, it's the beginning steps into a successful franchise. 

    I also saw on the 92.3 Instagram page that Haslam said it might take a year or two to find the right QB. That sounds, to me, like they aren't picking a QB at #2.

    @ap1 said:

    Haslam said it might take a year or two to find the right QB. That sounds, to me, like they aren't picking a QB at #2.

    It certainly could mean that.  But it really doesn't seem to fall in line with what Myles hinted that HE was told.  Still, the whole famn damly went to dinner with Abdul Carter and his family during his pro day experience.  We'll see who shows up for Colorado's pro day this Friday.

    And yeah, he said to park the blame on him and Dee....but FIRST he stated that it was an 'organizational' decision....kinda' like, 'Hey, it wasn't just me.  They all thought it was a good idea too, but I'll take the blame because I'm at the top of the organization.'   

    Many people on this board were pretty sure that Stef & Berry would be fired right after the season ended.  In January, when they didn't get fired, I stated that being that Jimmuh is Mr. Trigger-Finger, it's possible that the Watson thing might have been his...well, I don't know if 'idea' is the right word because it could've been an option that Berry might have thrown out there along with other options...but perhaps he loved the idea and was a force behind having it happen.  

  • @ap1 said:

    Haslam said it might take a year or two to find the right QB. That sounds, to me, like they aren't picking a QB at #2.

    It certainly could mean that.  But it really doesn't seem to fall in line with what Myles hinted that HE was told.  Still, the whole famn damly went to dinner with Abdul Carter and his family during his pro day experience.  We'll see who shows up for Colorado's pro day this Friday.

    And yeah, he said to park the blame on him and Dee....but FIRST he stated that it was an 'organizational' decision....kinda' like, 'Hey, it wasn't just me.  They all thought it was a good idea too, but I'll take the blame because I'm at the top of the organization.'   

    Many people on this board were pretty sure that Stef & Berry would be fired right after the season ended.  In January, when they didn't get fired, I stated that being that Jimmuh is Mr. Trigger-Finger, it's possible that the Watson thing might have been his...well, I don't know if 'idea' is the right word because it could've been an option that Berry might have thrown out there along with other options...but perhaps he loved the idea and was a force behind having it happen.  

    @orion said:

    It certainly could mean that.  But it really doesn't seem to fall in line with what Myles hinted that HE was told.  Still, the whole famn damly went to dinner with Abdul Carter and his family during his pro day experience.  We'll see who shows up for Colorado's pro day this Friday.

    And yeah, he said to park the blame on him and Dee....but FIRST he stated that it was an 'organizational' decision....kinda' like, 'Hey, it wasn't just me.  They all thought it was a good idea too, but I'll take the blame because I'm at the top of the organization.'   

    Many people on this board were pretty sure that Stef & Berry would be fired right after the season ended.  In January, when they didn't get fired, I stated that being that Jimmuh is Mr. Trigger-Finger, it's possible that the Watson thing might have been his...well, I don't know if 'idea' is the right word because it could've been an option that Berry might have thrown out there along with other options...but perhaps he loved the idea and was a force behind having it happen.  

    Maybe they told Myles that they were going to bring in a veteran (which still has yet to transpire) and showed him a list of names (and he approved).

    There are another of cloak and dagger, smoke and mirror psy ops that take place prior to the Draft to build as much leverage as possible surrounding picks and their value.

    I'll never be a Haslam apologist. I was excited for him to be owner. That waned quickly.

    Haslam wanted to show the fanbase he was serious about winning and it cost him a quarter of a billion dollars, actually much more but I'm not sure how to place a value on that. It blew up in his face and he finally admitted it. The first step to getting out of a hole is to quit digging.

    He probably also subtlety admitted the mistake by bringing back AB and KS. I always thought about it as them getting one more chance, but maybe not. 

  • Dinner with Shedeur Sanders this week. And Flacco is "in the conversation".

    Stefanski isn't making the decision here, we all know Jimmuh is calling the shots at #2. Since the dinner seems so important, Shedeur better know which fork is the salad fork. I can never remember. 

    Mary Kay Cabot@MaryKayCabot
    #Browns coach Kevin Stefanski acknowledges the club will have dinner with Shedeur Sanders later this week in connection with his Colorado pro day. Also eager to see him throw live:
    Mary Kay Cabot@MaryKayCabot
    #Browns owner Jimmy Haslam says they're still looking at a bunch of veteran QBs and Joe Flacco "is in the conversation. Doesn't mean we're going to do anything, but he's in the conversation."
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    @bob806 said:

    It's pretty much what most fans figured, the Haslams were behind it. No wonder AB & DePud are still here.

    Not that I care a ton, but wow with DW rehabbing here I can't imagine what he's thinking now.

    @flugel said:

    I'll tell you exactly what he's thinking "These Knuckleheads guaranteed me 230 million $ to sign a contract to play for the Browns whether I play or not.  However, I would like to go on record and say I was willing to sweat way more than Jed Wells was."

    Geee, how can we thank him?

    Given the inclination that our culture is heading towards people being offended for being called out, I'm sure there is some surprise on his part probably to the tune of the following:

    "Can you believe that, Bruh?"

    "I can't believe they called me out, Dawg."

    Either way, it's what is needed. Hell, Haslam finally called himself out as well.

    These QB contracts are hamstringing teams. I know the salary cap will just keep going up, but the amount of money that these QBs are commanding and the (lack of) performance, and playoff appearances, that the franchises are getting out of them is insane.

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    @ap1 said:

    Given the inclination that our culture is heading towards people being offended for being called out, I'm sure there is some surprise on his part probably to the tune of the following:

    "Can you believe that, Bruh?"

    "I can't believe they called me out, Dawg."

    Either way, it's what is needed. Hell, Haslam finally called himself out as well.

    These QB contracts are hamstringing teams. I know the salary cap will just keep going up, but the amount of money that these QBs are commanding and the (lack of) performance, and playoff appearances, that the franchises are getting out of them is insane.

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    How true!  It's going way past absurd.

  • A AP1

    @orion said:

    It certainly could mean that.  But it really doesn't seem to fall in line with what Myles hinted that HE was told.  Still, the whole famn damly went to dinner with Abdul Carter and his family during his pro day experience.  We'll see who shows up for Colorado's pro day this Friday.

    And yeah, he said to park the blame on him and Dee....but FIRST he stated that it was an 'organizational' decision....kinda' like, 'Hey, it wasn't just me.  They all thought it was a good idea too, but I'll take the blame because I'm at the top of the organization.'   

    Many people on this board were pretty sure that Stef & Berry would be fired right after the season ended.  In January, when they didn't get fired, I stated that being that Jimmuh is Mr. Trigger-Finger, it's possible that the Watson thing might have been his...well, I don't know if 'idea' is the right word because it could've been an option that Berry might have thrown out there along with other options...but perhaps he loved the idea and was a force behind having it happen.  

    Maybe they told Myles that they were going to bring in a veteran (which still has yet to transpire) and showed him a list of names (and he approved).

    There are another of cloak and dagger, smoke and mirror psy ops that take place prior to the Draft to build as much leverage as possible surrounding picks and their value.

    I'll never be a Haslam apologist. I was excited for him to be owner. That waned quickly.

    Haslam wanted to show the fanbase he was serious about winning and it cost him a quarter of a billion dollars, actually much more but I'm not sure how to place a value on that. It blew up in his face and he finally admitted it. The first step to getting out of a hole is to quit digging.

    He probably also subtlety admitted the mistake by bringing back AB and KS. I always thought about it as them getting one more chance, but maybe not. 

    @ap1 said:

    The first step to getting out of a hole is to quit digging.

    It seemed like they were, but I hadn't been quite sure that they were done digging the Watson pit.  Hearing these statements from Haslem himself is quite telling.  I'm sure that Haslem's statement about it taking a year or two to find the right QB is something that the Giants are decoding.  Perhaps the Patriots might want to trade with us for Carter.  They can't pressure the QB AT ALL.  And I kinda' like their 3rd string QB, Joe Milton.  Get him into the trade package somehow.  

    The plot is thickening.  

  • It's pretty much what most fans figured, the Haslams were behind it. No wonder AB & DePud are still here.

    Not that I care a ton, but wow with DW rehabbing here I can't imagine what he's thinking now.

    @bob806 said:

    It's pretty much what most fans figured, the Haslams were behind it. No wonder AB & DePud are still here.

    Not that I care a ton, but wow with DW rehabbing here I can't imagine what he's thinking now.

    He's thinking he is rich and can't wait to retire when he can enjoy his cash the rest of his life.  Heck, so would I, you and everybody else.

  • That was not a swing and miss on a pitch.  That was a swing and a miss while blindfolded and paying for the chance to get a hit.

    https://www.fox26houston.com/news/did-texans-win-deshaun-watson-trade-browns-ownership-call-trade-swing-miss

  • It's pretty much what most fans figured, the Haslams were behind it. No wonder AB & DePud are still here.

    Not that I care a ton, but wow with DW rehabbing here I can't imagine what he's thinking now.

    @bob806 said:

    Not that I care a ton, but wow with DW rehabbing here I can't imagine what he's thinking now.

    I'm sure DW is well aware of how bad he is ?

  • @ap1 said:

    The first step to getting out of a hole is to quit digging.

    It seemed like they were, but I hadn't been quite sure that they were done digging the Watson pit.  Hearing these statements from Haslem himself is quite telling.  I'm sure that Haslem's statement about it taking a year or two to find the right QB is something that the Giants are decoding.  Perhaps the Patriots might want to trade with us for Carter.  They can't pressure the QB AT ALL.  And I kinda' like their 3rd string QB, Joe Milton.  Get him into the trade package somehow.  

    The plot is thickening.  

    @orion said:

    It seemed like they were, but I hadn't been quite sure that they were done digging the Watson pit.  Hearing these statements from Haslem himself is quite telling.  I'm sure that Haslem's statement about it taking a year or two to find the right QB is something that the Giants are decoding.  Perhaps the Patriots might want to trade with us for Carter.  They can't pressure the QB AT ALL.  And I kinda' like their 3rd string QB, Joe Milton.  Get him into the trade package somehow.  

    The plot is thickening.  

    I don't know my friend.  I think sometimes we try to read too much in to things.  He was just answering questions.  I don't think it was to try to send smoke signals to anyone.

    Haslam admits we took a shot and it didn't work.  That is how it works sometimes.  When we made the trade the objections weren't because people thought the guy couldn't play.  It was because of moral objections to his character.

  • @orion said:

    It seemed like they were, but I hadn't been quite sure that they were done digging the Watson pit.  Hearing these statements from Haslem himself is quite telling.  I'm sure that Haslem's statement about it taking a year or two to find the right QB is something that the Giants are decoding.  Perhaps the Patriots might want to trade with us for Carter.  They can't pressure the QB AT ALL.  And I kinda' like their 3rd string QB, Joe Milton.  Get him into the trade package somehow.  

    The plot is thickening.  

    I don't know my friend.  I think sometimes we try to read too much in to things.  He was just answering questions.  I don't think it was to try to send smoke signals to anyone.

    Haslam admits we took a shot and it didn't work.  That is how it works sometimes.  When we made the trade the objections weren't because people thought the guy couldn't play.  It was because of moral objections to his character.

    @ballpeen said:

    It was because of moral objections to his character.

    For myself, that and I thought the draft picks was too much.

  • And to add....it wasn't a swing and a miss, it was, in the words of former Indians announcer Jimmy Dudley, or more recently, Cameron, from Ferris Beuler fame, it was a " Saaawiiiiing" and a miss.

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    @ballpeen said:

    It was because of moral objections to his character.

    For myself, that and I thought the draft picks was too much.

    @jax said:

    For myself, that and I thought the draft picks was too much.

    The picks are always too much, but that is what it is when talking about a QB with a few pro-bowls under the belt.

    As for the guarantee, that didn't bother me.  I mean, how many QB's who are considered star QB's don't earn their entire contract value?  Teams don't just cut those guys.

  • That was not a swing and miss on a pitch.  That was a swing and a miss while blindfolded and paying for the chance to get a hit.

    https://www.fox26houston.com/news/did-texans-win-deshaun-watson-trade-browns-ownership-call-trade-swing-miss

    @marvin-the-martian said:

    That was not a swing and miss on a pitch.  That was a swing and a miss while blindfolded and paying for the chance to get a hit.

    https://www.fox26houston.com/news/did-texans-win-deshaun-watson-trade-browns-ownership-call-trade-swing-miss

    The Texans enabled Watson with hotel rooms, knew about it, and yet were never punished. They should have had those 3 draft picks stripped away, nobody will ever convince me otherwise. Eff Houston and their cheating teams.

  • @orion said:

    It seemed like they were, but I hadn't been quite sure that they were done digging the Watson pit.  Hearing these statements from Haslem himself is quite telling.  I'm sure that Haslem's statement about it taking a year or two to find the right QB is something that the Giants are decoding.  Perhaps the Patriots might want to trade with us for Carter.  They can't pressure the QB AT ALL.  And I kinda' like their 3rd string QB, Joe Milton.  Get him into the trade package somehow.  

    The plot is thickening.  

    I don't know my friend.  I think sometimes we try to read too much in to things.  He was just answering questions.  I don't think it was to try to send smoke signals to anyone.

    Haslam admits we took a shot and it didn't work.  That is how it works sometimes.  When we made the trade the objections weren't because people thought the guy couldn't play.  It was because of moral objections to his character.

    @ballpeen said:

    He was just answering questions.

    Exactly.  And perhaps too honestly.  (not purposely misleading for draft benefits)  When saying that it might take a year or two to get the right QB, the Giants & Patriots should be thinking that the Browns are taking Carter (at least until Sanders' pro day Friday).  Perhaps the Patriots will offer to trade with us since we have Myles and the Pats can't pressure the QB at all (I've watched some of their games).   

    @ballpeen said:

    When we made the trade the objections weren't because people thought the guy couldn't play

    Right.  I, for one, was on board with the trade. (well, maybe not the 3 first rounders part)  I had come to the conclusion that Baker was not the answer and with only Kenny Pickett available in the draft I felt like we were stuck with Baker.  (and now we have Pickett...the universe is cruel sometimes)

  • @ballpeen said:

    He was just answering questions.

    Exactly.  And perhaps too honestly.  (not purposely misleading for draft benefits)  When saying that it might take a year or two to get the right QB, the Giants & Patriots should be thinking that the Browns are taking Carter (at least until Sanders' pro day Friday).  Perhaps the Patriots will offer to trade with us since we have Myles and the Pats can't pressure the QB at all (I've watched some of their games).   

    @ballpeen said:

    When we made the trade the objections weren't because people thought the guy couldn't play

    Right.  I, for one, was on board with the trade. (well, maybe not the 3 first rounders part)  I had come to the conclusion that Baker was not the answer and with only Kenny Pickett available in the draft I felt like we were stuck with Baker.  (and now we have Pickett...the universe is cruel sometimes)

    @orion said:

    Right.  I, for one, was on board with the trade. (well, maybe not the 3 first rounders part)  I had come to the conclusion that Baker was not the answer and with only Kenny Pickett available in the draft I felt like we were stuck with Baker.  (and now we have Pickett...the universe is cruel sometimes)

    I was written in the stars.??

  •  This was something I had mentioned at one point some time back, I believe as far as the firing of Woods - accountability.  Specifically accountability shown by the Front Office and ownership. 

     You see a play get fucked up post snap? Wrong route run, bad throw, missed gap, blown assignment?  That simple tap on the chest -"my bad, my fault". That's all it takes. 

     Acknowledge that you've made a mistake, but that it hurt your team (and your fans in this case) as a whole.  With that is the implied penance of making sure you don't repeat that mistake and working to be better. 

     Not saying I've any love for Haslam, but it's refreshing hearing something from him I never believed he would say. 

  • even haslam had to eat humble pie and admit it - it was that horrible a move. Too bad this isn't next year's qb draft...

  • FFS, now he’s selling a tale of redemption.

    He’s made a few training and vacation videos for his salary.

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  • FFS, now he’s selling a tale of redemption.

    He’s made a few training and vacation videos for his salary.

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    @canton-dawg said:

    FFS, now he’s selling a tale of redemption.

    He’s made a few training and vacation videos for his salary.

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    When the Agent (probably) received $6.9M of the $230M, he feels obligated to do cheesey stuff like the above.

    "Lock in 4!" What a joke. These two orchestrated the greatest legal heist in history.

    Lock in? How about STFD, STFU and go away.