American views on Israel
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Haha..math and Israel
October 6 +decades of bombings +videotaped decapitations + kidnappings + every other form of terrorism imaginable= Israel is the bad guy?
It just doesn’t add up, now does it Woody?
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Poor innocent Israel has never done anything wrong. Riiiiiight
Regardless, this thread is on the public opinion of Israel souring. Getting you to understand the reality of the history in the region isn't anything I'm looking to do. It won't happen.
Woody is quiet today.
Must be in church celebrating the resurrection of Jesus.
Weird my response is the highlight of your day. Enjoy the holiday. Don't wait for my response on an Internet forum.
Poor innocent Israel has never done anything wrong. Riiiiiight
Regardless, this thread is on the public opinion of Israel souring. Getting you to understand the reality of the history in the region isn't anything I'm looking to do. It won't happen. .
Contributor "MLD Woody" wrote:
"Poor innocent Israel has never done anything wrong. Riiiiiight":
Israel is the same as any other country and likewise occasionally does things wrong. However, Israel punishes wrongdoing by its soldiers, whereas by comparison the "Palestinian" Arabs pay a reward-pension for the murder of Israeli Jewish civilians including children; this "pay for slay" is referred to as the "Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund". After all the "Palestinian" Arabs have the money to do this because they are bankrolled by the institutionally anti-Semitic European Union which pays huge sums in so-called "humanitarian" aid to Fatah aka "Palestinian Authority, the", who then pass a proportion on to Hamas.He also wrote:
"Getting you to understand the reality of the history in the region isn't anything I'm looking to do. It won't happen.":
In this the contributor is entirely accurate. This is because pro-"Palestinian" Arabs / "Palestinian" Arabs do not use internationally-recognized history.
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Good to know you think the number of civilian casualties in Gaza are now low enough to be justifiable.
What about the number of Americans victimized by illegals? Is any number of that justified by your failed logic?
How about the genocide going on in South Africa? Is that justified in your warped little head?
What about the number of Americans victimized by illegals? Is any number of that justified by your failed logic?
People commit crimes. Crazy revelation there. Americans do too.
Though, if you believe Trump and MAGA lies on illegal crime, you'd think they're somehow murdering "hundreds of thousands" of people a year.
It's all the standard fear mongering bullshit you folks eat up so easily.
Illegals commit crimes at no worse a rate than American citizens. Some studies show at a lower rate. But you're saying kick them all out because a few are bad eggs. Ignoring all of the implications of that. I'm sure you don't apply the same logic to gun owners...
It's clear where you stand and you aren't changing your mind. Oh well.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
That Robert account could just be someone on a VPN, but it is funny his IP address is out of Thailand right now. And the handful he used before that.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
What about the number of Americans victimized by illegals? Is any number of that justified by your failed logic?
People commit crimes. Crazy revelation there. Americans do too.
Though, if you believe Trump and MAGA lies on illegal crime, you'd think they're somehow murdering "hundreds of thousands" of people a year.
It's all the standard fear mongering bullshit you folks eat up so easily.
Illegals commit crimes at no worse a rate than American citizens. Some studies show at a lower rate. But you're saying kick them all out because a few are bad eggs. Ignoring all of the implications of that. I'm sure you don't apply the same logic to gun owners...
It's clear where you stand and you aren't changing your mind. Oh well.
People commit crimes. Crazy revelation there. Americans do too.
Though, if you believe Trump and MAGA lies on illegal crime, you'd think they're somehow murdering "hundreds of thousands" of people a year.
It's all the standard fear mongering bullshit you folks eat up so easily.
Illegals commit crimes at no worse a rate than American citizens. Some studies show at a lower rate. But you're saying kick them all out because a few are bad eggs. Ignoring all of the implications of that. I'm sure you don't apply the same logic to gun owners...
It's clear where you stand and you aren't changing your mind. Oh well.
Contributor "MLD Woody" wrote:
"Illegals commit crimes at no worse a rate than American citizens.":
Nice try, but the illegals who are members of cartel / mafia gangs tend to commit more crime than the average. If there is a case they are such members, then they need to be deported.He also wrote:
"But you're saying kick them all out because a few are bad eggs.":
It indeed is not right to target all, for the behavior of a few. However, those who avoid the proper Immigration vetting, and enter the U.S. illegally should be deported. (This is on the basis that there is a legitimate method available for genuine asylum seekers to process a claim through Immigration.) -
the group name "palestinians" was created out of belligerence against Israel existing as a country.
The Arabic peoples there could have had their own freaking country, but they refused to be next to Israel and didn't want the Jews to have a country.
The "palestinians" now are enraged that they lost the West Bank etc because of the Six Day War that the ARABIC COUNTRIES STARTED.
Because they didn't, there has never been a Palsetinian state governed by Arab Palsetinians in history, nor was there ever a serious Arab-Palsetinian national movement until 1964…three years BEFORE the Arabs of "Palsetine" lost the West Bank (Judea and Samaria) and Gaza as a result of the 1967 Six Day's War (which the Arabs started). -
That Robert account could just be someone on a VPN, but it is funny his IP address is out of Thailand right now. And the handful he used before that.
That Robert account could just be someone on a VPN, but it is funny his IP address is out of Thailand right now. And the handful he used before that.
I'm not using any VPN!
Is that the best "argument" Hamas supporters can bring; just asking!? -
NCESC - Employment Security Commission
Jun 27, 2024Another commonly asked question is, "Who gave Sinai back to Egypt?" Under the terms of the peace treaty resulting from the Camp David Accords signed in 1978, Israel returned the entire Sinai Peninsula to Egypt. In return, Egypt recognized Israel's right to exist as a state. The two countries subsequently -
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NCESC - Employment Security Commission
Jan 27, 2025The Six-Day War of 1967 saw Israel seize control of the Sinai Peninsula, along with the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and the Golan Heights. For over a decade, the Sinai was under Israeli military administration. While offering strategic depth for defense, it also represented a major point of contention between Israel and Egypt. -
Center for Israel Education
Apr 25, 2023On April 23, 1982, amid strong domestic opposition, Israel evacuates and razes the city of Yamit, the final Israeli settlement to be evacuated in the Sinai, as part of the return of the Sinai to Egypt. Two days later, Israel finishes the three-year process of complete withdrawal from the strategically important and -
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Someday, the cowardly bird - woodpecker - will learn some history.
The Sinai Peninsula was returned to Egypt in multiple stages beginning in 1979 as part of the Egypt-Israel peace treaty. Israel dismantled 18 settlements, 2 airforce bases, a naval base, and other installations by 1982, including most oil resources under Israeli control. ... In 1982, as a result of the Egypt-Israel peace treaty of 1979 -
I've got an AI account from Thailand trying to get me to engage and somehow Cal spanning his Google search links is still the most annoying, troll-y thing on here. It's sad you haven't learned any new tricks in a decade. Just less intelligence and more hate.
Or, who knows, maybe you're running the AI bot behind the VPN. That would be respectable
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I've got an AI account from Thailand trying to get me to engage and somehow Cal spanning his Google search links is still the most annoying, troll-y thing on here. It's sad you haven't learned any new tricks in a decade. Just less intelligence and more hate.
Or, who knows, maybe you're running the AI bot behind the VPN. That would be respectable
"please stop, don't make me realize I'm wrong, chirp chirp peck peck peck ....."
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Israeli occupation of the Sinai Peninsula
1967–1982 military occupation of the Egyptian Sinai PeninsulaThe Sinai Peninsula, which is a part of Egypt, has been militarily occupied by Israel twice since the beginning of the Arab–Israeli conflict: the first occupation lasted from October 1956 to March 1957, and the second occupation lasted from June 1967 to April 1982. Israel initially seized the Sinai Peninsula during the Suez Crisis, when it attacked Egypt in response to its blockade of Israeli passage through the Suez Canal and Straits of Tiran; the Egyptians had been contesting Israel's freedom of navigation through there since 1949, impacting the country's ability to import and export goods during the Israeli austerity period. Wikipedia -
the group name "palestinians" was created out of belligerence against Israel existing as a country.
The Arabic peoples there could have had their own freaking country, but they refused to be next to Israel and didn't want the Jews to have a country.
The "palestinians" now are enraged that they lost the West Bank etc because of the Six Day War that the ARABIC COUNTRIES STARTED.
Because they didn't, there has never been a Palsetinian state governed by Arab Palsetinians in history, nor was there ever a serious Arab-Palsetinian national movement until 1964…three years BEFORE the Arabs of "Palsetine" lost the West Bank (Judea and Samaria) and Gaza as a result of the 1967 Six Day's War (which the Arabs started).The "palestinians" now are enraged that they lost the West Bank etc because of the Six Day War that the ARABIC COUNTRIES STARTED. [...]
In the 1967 Six Day War Israel recovered its ancestral lands of "Judah and Samaria" (wrongly called the "West Bank), from the Jordanian illegal-occupiers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanian_annexation_of_the_West_Bank
What is the Jewish people’s ancestral homeland? See the post-Biblical Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom (in the posted text I have removed the “https://” so the System only displays the URL):
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Hasmonean_kingdom.jpgIt only became known as "the West Bank” due to the Jordanian (then called Transjordan) illegal-occupation of it from 1948 to 1967 (see first link above).
(No land has ever been taken from the "Palestinian" Arabs, but rather (as an attempt at "land for peace" and also another attempt at a "two-state solution") they were granted autonomy under the Oslo Accords in 1995, of part (about 40%) of Judah and Samaria ("West Bank"), and also the whole of Gaza;
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Oslo_II_Accord
afterwhich the "Palestinian" Arabs claimed ALL the land, fired thousands of rockets from Gaza at Israeli cities, continued with their terrorism, and committed the massacre of October 7th, 2023!)In 1967 Israel was about to be attacked by both Egypt and Syria (both the latter countries were then united as the UAE ("United Arab Republic")), and if such an attack had happened at that time, it is likely Israel would have been destroyed. The threat was not really any secret either since in 1967 in preparation to attack Israel, the Egyptians:
> mobilized their army,
> ordered the United Nations to withdraw its UNEF Peacekeeping force (“United Nations Emergency Force”) from the Sinai,
> and closed the Straits of Tiran:
Israel therefore conducted a pre-emptive strike, taking-out the air forces of Egypt and Syria, (mostly) on the ground:
https://www.britannica.com/event/Six-Day-WarEgypt and Syria did attack Israel in 1973:
https://www.britannica.com/event/Yom-Kippur-WarIn 1970 the "Palestinian" Arabs, who claim to everyone about how attached they allegedly are to the land of Israel, tried to take over Jordan by force; an event referred to as "Black September":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_Jordan -
I've got an AI account from Thailand trying to get me to engage and somehow Cal spanning his Google search links is still the most annoying, troll-y thing on here. It's sad you haven't learned any new tricks in a decade. Just less intelligence and more hate.
Or, who knows, maybe you're running the AI bot behind the VPN. That would be respectable
I've got an AI account from Thailand trying to get me to engage and somehow Cal spanning his Google search links is still the most annoying, troll-y thing on here. It's sad you haven't learned any new tricks in a decade. Just less intelligence and more hate.
Or, who knows, maybe you're running the AI bot behind the VPN. That would be respectable
I'm not using any VPN!
Again, is all "that" the best "argument" Hamas supporters can bring; just asking!? -
I've got an AI account from Thailand trying to get me to engage and somehow Cal spanning his Google search links is still the most annoying, troll-y thing on here. It's sad you haven't learned any new tricks in a decade. Just less intelligence and more hate.
Or, who knows, maybe you're running the AI bot behind the VPN. That would be respectable
I'm not using any VPN!
Again, is all "that" the best "argument" Hamas supporters can bring; just asking!?I'm not using any VPN!
Again, is all "that" the best "argument" Hamas supporters can bring; just asking!?.... I'm going to regret this.... But ....
So you're a Browns fan living in Bangkok with an interest in American politics?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I'm not using any VPN!
Again, is all "that" the best "argument" Hamas supporters can bring; just asking!?.... I'm going to regret this.... But ....
So you're a Browns fan living in Bangkok with an interest in American politics?
.... I'm going to regret this.... But ....
So you're a Browns fan living in Bangkok with an interest in American politics?
There are Expat Browns fans all over the world... Whats so hard to understand?
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Good to know you think the number of civilian casualties in Gaza are now low enough to be justifiable.
What about the number of Americans victimized by illegals? Is any number of that justified by your failed logic?
How about the genocide going on in South Africa? Is that justified in your warped little head?
What about the number of Americans victimized by illegals? Is any number of that justified by your failed logic?
How about the genocide going on in South Africa? Is that justified in your warped little head?
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
I'm not using any VPN!
Again, is all "that" the best "argument" Hamas supporters can bring; just asking!?.... I'm going to regret this.... But ....
So you're a Browns fan living in Bangkok with an interest in American politics?
.... I'm going to regret this.... But ....
So you're a Browns fan living in Bangkok with an interest in American politics?
Contributor "MLD Woody" wrote:
"So you're a Browns fan living in Bangkok with an interest in American politics?":
Nice try in seeking to make this discussion personal, but I do not normally answer questions about me.He also wrote:
"... I'm going to regret this":
When anyone seeks to divert a discussion by seeking to make it personal, this tends to indicate:They may lack argument to back up what they have asserted in the discussion.
They may lack objective-evidence to back up any argument they may have made.
They may lack sufficient knowledge to formulate any proper argument on the subjects in question.
They may lack the ability to debate.
They may be using an AI.
They may be using a VPN. -
.... I'm going to regret this.... But ....
So you're a Browns fan living in Bangkok with an interest in American politics?
Contributor "MLD Woody" wrote:
"So you're a Browns fan living in Bangkok with an interest in American politics?":
Nice try in seeking to make this discussion personal, but I do not normally answer questions about me.He also wrote:
"... I'm going to regret this":
When anyone seeks to divert a discussion by seeking to make it personal, this tends to indicate:They may lack argument to back up what they have asserted in the discussion.
They may lack objective-evidence to back up any argument they may have made.
They may lack sufficient knowledge to formulate any proper argument on the subjects in question.
They may lack the ability to debate.
They may be using an AI.
They may be using a VPN.Contributor "MLD Woody" wrote:
"So you're a Browns fan living in Bangkok with an interest in American politics?":
Nice try in seeking to make this discussion personal, but I do not normally answer questions about me.He also wrote:
"... I'm going to regret this":
When anyone seeks to divert a discussion by seeking to make it personal, this tends to indicate:They may lack argument to back up what they have asserted in the discussion.
They may lack objective-evidence to back up any argument they may have made.
They may lack sufficient knowledge to formulate any proper argument on the subjects in question.
They may lack the ability to debate.
They may be using an AI.
They may be using a VPN.Hahahaha
So, nothing?
Got it. I'll keep an eye on your IP address and go from there. I'll let our elderly residents continue to engage with you.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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