Day 1 Thursday 2025 NFL Draft
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We are walking away from this draft with Hunter or Hunter and Sanders. Hoping it is not the latter. I can deal with the former and it will work out as long as we don’t make him 100% WR. His elite tool is going up and taking the ball away from a WR.
But Seven years from now we will wish we drafted Carter. And Carter suited up for 42 games and played in 42 games at PSU.
I’m okay with almost anything but please no trade up in the first round for Milroe
We are walking away from this draft with Hunter or Hunter and Sanders. Hoping it is not the latter. I can deal with the former and it will work out as long as we don’t make him 100% WR. His elite tool is going up and taking the ball away from a WR.
But Seven years from now we will wish we drafted Carter. And Carter suited up for 42 games and played in 42 games at PSU.
I’m okay with almost anything but please no trade up in the first round for MilroeFans of other teams have no idea what we've gone through. They just don't.
Here's a Caddyshack response to your Milroe concern above...
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I'd love to drop back a bit, pick up someone's first next season and still end up with a helluva player.
I think by Travis Hunter's second contract he'll pretty much be playing on one side of the ball, negating his "generational" skillset, and Abdul Carter's injuries have kind of spooked me.
I'd love to drop back a bit, pick up someone's first next season and still end up with a helluva player.
I think by Travis Hunter's second contract he'll pretty much be playing on one side of the ball, negating his "generational" skillset, and Abdul Carter's injuries have kind of spooked me.
FWIW, I think Ohio State's DEs are going to be underrated in this draft. Hear me out. When the Buckeyes had their backs to the wall against opponents after teams had a 1st and goal to go situation - they were #1 in college football at not giving up TDs as it was brought up in one of their playoff games. The 2 fellers on the outside had a lot to do with this.
For all the hype Carter got this year for his 12 sacks in 16 games - JT Tuimoloau had 12.5 sacks in 16 games. That said, his frame at 6'4" 270 lbs holds up well against the run. It might have been more sacks if Jack Sawyer on the other edge didn't get himself 9 sacks too. Sawyer might not be as draft sexy to many; but he's very good against the run in my opinion in his 6'4" 260 lbs frame. In the NFL, if you're only great at pass rushing - they're gonna test you on the edge in the running game. Here's the thing, these 2 guys are being projected for round 2.
Seeing how bad we were at scoring points though - it's difficult for me to hope we prioritize edge rush. The Browns had the best edge rusher in the business and it didn't keep us from free-falling to 3 wins in 17 games. It would be nice if we had an additional 2nd round pick or 2 this year; because it could get fun in a hurry.
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I'd love to drop back a bit, pick up someone's first next season and still end up with a helluva player.
I think by Travis Hunter's second contract he'll pretty much be playing on one side of the ball, negating his "generational" skillset, and Abdul Carter's injuries have kind of spooked me.
I'd love to drop back a bit, pick up someone's first next season and still end up with a helluva player.
I think by Travis Hunter's second contract he'll pretty much be playing on one side of the ball, negating his "generational" skillset, and Abdul Carter's injuries have kind of spooked me.
To get a 1st next year we would have to trade back more than a bit. I doubt you could start talking about a 1st until you dropped below pick 15 or so.
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I'd love to drop back a bit, pick up someone's first next season and still end up with a helluva player.
I think by Travis Hunter's second contract he'll pretty much be playing on one side of the ball, negating his "generational" skillset, and Abdul Carter's injuries have kind of spooked me.
To get a 1st next year we would have to trade back more than a bit. I doubt you could start talking about a 1st until you dropped below pick 15 or so.
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Regardless of who or what we pick... AB has to absolutely nail this draft or he's adios if we don't sniff the Playoffs this season...
Regardless of who or what we pick... AB has to absolutely nail this draft or he's adios if we don't sniff the Playoffs this season...
I don't know if he has to sniff the playoffs but we do need to see at least a couple of players make solid contributions this season. At least a good starter and a semi starter,. In addition, we need to see at least 1 more player look a solid addition for the future.
We don't need a class of rookies bound to be mediocre special team guys as their ceiling.
It really doesn't end with this years guys. The 22 draft was a waste. The 23 draft is where we should see guys like Tillman, Jones, and Wypler start to take control of their positions. The 23 draft is where guys like Hall and Zinter need to man up.
If those players don't start to show out, I don't care how good this draft turns out.
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If we dropped to 9 with New Orleans it would have to be for a first imo
IMO if we drop to #4 it would have to be for a 1st, but it doesn't work that way.
I suppose that current picks are more valuable than future picks. I also said 15 or so...or so could be up or down, so we might be quibbling over a 2-3 pick gap.
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If we dropped to 9 with New Orleans it would have to be for a first imo
IMO if we drop to #4 it would have to be for a 1st, but it doesn't work that way.
I suppose that current picks are more valuable than future picks. I also said 15 or so...or so could be up or down, so we might be quibbling over a 2-3 pick gap.
IMO if we drop to #4 it would have to be for a 1st, but it doesn't work that way.
I suppose that current picks are more valuable than future picks. I also said 15 or so...or so could be up or down, so we might be quibbling over a 2-3 pick gap.
At the end of the day I don’t see anyone going to be willing to give up a first to go and get Shedeur Sanders, so it’s probably all a moo point.
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IMO if we drop to #4 it would have to be for a 1st, but it doesn't work that way.
I suppose that current picks are more valuable than future picks. I also said 15 or so...or so could be up or down, so we might be quibbling over a 2-3 pick gap.
At the end of the day I don’t see anyone going to be willing to give up a first to go and get Shedeur Sanders, so it’s probably all a moo point.
At the end of the day I don’t see anyone going to be willing to give up a first to go and get Shedeur Sanders, so it’s probably all a moo point.
I'm wondering what kind of offers they'll get for the right to draft Hunter.
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IMO if we drop to #4 it would have to be for a 1st, but it doesn't work that way.
I suppose that current picks are more valuable than future picks. I also said 15 or so...or so could be up or down, so we might be quibbling over a 2-3 pick gap.
At the end of the day I don’t see anyone going to be willing to give up a first to go and get Shedeur Sanders, so it’s probably all a moo point.
At the end of the day I don’t see anyone going to be willing to give up a first to go and get Shedeur Sanders, so it’s probably all a moo point.
?How now
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At the end of the day I don’t see anyone going to be willing to give up a first to go and get Shedeur Sanders, so it’s probably all a moo point.
I'm wondering what kind of offers they'll get for the right to draft Hunter.
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I'd love to drop back a bit, pick up someone's first next season and still end up with a helluva player.
I think by Travis Hunter's second contract he'll pretty much be playing on one side of the ball, negating his "generational" skillset, and Abdul Carter's injuries have kind of spooked me.
I'd love to drop back a bit,
Yes, and pick up some day 2 picks. We need some good players and equally important, rookie contracts.
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I'd love to drop back a bit,
Yes, and pick up some day 2 picks. We need some good players and equally important, rookie contracts.
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Nope.
I want 2026 picks.
Supposedly this is a good and somewhat deep draft for positions other than QB. (of course, not ALL other positions)
I'm assuming that you want '26 picks to package them for a '26 QB...
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Nope.
I want 2026 picks.
Supposedly this is a good and somewhat deep draft for positions other than QB. (of course, not ALL other positions)
I'm assuming that you want '26 picks to package them for a '26 QB...
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That and we already have four picks in the top 100 or so picks, and like 10 or 11 overall.
We have 10 picks. And 5 of 'em are in the 6th & 7th rounds. We've got 4 picks in the top 3 rounds. We can trade out of #2 and get more 2nd day picks. And package up those 6th & 7th rounders for some barbeque chips (and some dip).
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A team moving to #2 would be a bad team moving a few spots or some spots up to get a QB - I don’t see it. Or a good team looking for the one missing piece (maybe Hunter).
Im sure we would like to forget the last time we did this in 2011. We traded out of 6 and gave Atlanta Julio Jones.
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Nope.
I want 2026 picks.
Supposedly this is a good and somewhat deep draft for positions other than QB. (of course, not ALL other positions)
I'm assuming that you want '26 picks to package them for a '26 QB...
Supposedly this is a good and somewhat deep draft for positions other than QB. (of course, not ALL other positions)
I'm assuming that you want '26 picks to package them for a '26 QB...
With NIL money, players in college have less incentive to move to the pro's. Several of the QB's who we think will make the 26 class a strong QB class may not come out until 27.
As a team we have been playing for future potential for a long time and at best have had marginal results. My thinking is Berry and crew need to spend less time planning for future drafts and pay attention to this years draft. Every draft produces good players. With a 1st, 2nd, and two 3rds we should walk away from those four picks with a couple of stud players and at least one decent player.
Every 6th round produces several good players. With 4 picks in that round we have nearly a 40% chance of finding 1 even if by sheer luck.
Time to just start playing with the cards in our hand.
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A team moving to #2 would be a bad team moving a few spots or some spots up to get a QB - I don’t see it. Or a good team looking for the one missing piece (maybe Hunter).
Im sure we would like to forget the last time we did this in 2011. We traded out of 6 and gave Atlanta Julio Jones.
A team moving to #2 would be a bad team moving a few spots or some spots up to get a QB - I don’t see it. Or a good team looking for the one missing piece (maybe Hunter).
Im sure we would like to forget the last time we did this in 2011. We traded out of 6 and gave Atlanta Julio Jones.
Good points. When you get right down to it - this is a team that only won 3 games that needs a QB. If we and the Browns are wrong about this QB class as it relates to #2 overall - that's giving a dead horse CPR just so it can be tortured...
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A team moving to #2 would be a bad team moving a few spots or some spots up to get a QB - I don’t see it. Or a good team looking for the one missing piece (maybe Hunter).
Im sure we would like to forget the last time we did this in 2011. We traded out of 6 and gave Atlanta Julio Jones.
A team moving to #2 would be a bad team moving a few spots or some spots up to get a QB - I don’t see it. Or a good team looking for the one missing piece (maybe Hunter).
Im sure we would like to forget the last time we did this in 2011. We traded out of 6 and gave Atlanta Julio Jones.
The move out of #6 wasn't the issue. The issue was taking Phil Taylor over Cam Hayward, then Greg Little over Demarco Murray or Randall Cobb. Then proceedjng to fuck up the entire 2012 draft sans Mitchell Schwartz.
Trading down is fine, what you do with the picks after is crucial.
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