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  • @htownbrown said:

    I get it, the Browns have earned this, but whether you like the plan or not, the Browns appear to have one. 

    Apparently, their plan was to acquire draft assets to get the franchise QB next year and possibly draft his backup this year.  And the plan almost worked...except nobody drafted Sanders.  So much for the plan.  We're now into plan B....

    @orion said:

    Apparently, their plan was to acquire draft assets to get the franchise QB next year and possibly draft his backup this year.  And the plan almost worked...except nobody drafted Sanders.  So much for the plan.  We're now into plan B....

    It's so fucking irritating. 

    They were this fucking close to actually pulling off a concise plan of attack regarding the QB position. 

    1. Put Watson on IR, thus freeing a roster space. CHECK.

    2. Trading DTR and letting Winston go. CHECK and CHECK.

    3. Get two veteran QBs. CHECK and CHECK.

    4. Trade down from #2, pick up another first round pick in 2026. HUGE CHECK.

    5. Draft a mid-round QB to be the eventual #2 guy. CHECK. (Perhaps too early for Gabriel, but whatever). 

    THEY PULLED IT ALL OFF! 

    And then... 

    Now regarding the '26 Draft, I don't see Arch Manning coming out. He could, but he would only have less than 20 college starts and he comes from money and would get paid a boatload of money to play college football in 2026.  

    But I will have my eyes on Garrett Nussmeier (LSU), Cade Klubnik (Clemson), LaNorris Sellers (South Carolina) and Drew Allar (Penn State). Someone else might emerge... hell, Carson Beck might re-emerge down in Miami. 

  • @orion said:

    Apparently, their plan was to acquire draft assets to get the franchise QB next year and possibly draft his backup this year.  And the plan almost worked...except nobody drafted Sanders.  So much for the plan.  We're now into plan B....

    It's so fucking irritating. 

    They were this fucking close to actually pulling off a concise plan of attack regarding the QB position. 

    1. Put Watson on IR, thus freeing a roster space. CHECK.

    2. Trading DTR and letting Winston go. CHECK and CHECK.

    3. Get two veteran QBs. CHECK and CHECK.

    4. Trade down from #2, pick up another first round pick in 2026. HUGE CHECK.

    5. Draft a mid-round QB to be the eventual #2 guy. CHECK. (Perhaps too early for Gabriel, but whatever). 

    THEY PULLED IT ALL OFF! 

    And then... 

    Now regarding the '26 Draft, I don't see Arch Manning coming out. He could, but he would only have less than 20 college starts and he comes from money and would get paid a boatload of money to play college football in 2026.  

    But I will have my eyes on Garrett Nussmeier (LSU), Cade Klubnik (Clemson), LaNorris Sellers (South Carolina) and Drew Allar (Penn State). Someone else might emerge... hell, Carson Beck might re-emerge down in Miami. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    regarding the '26 Draft, I don't see Arch Manning coming out. He could, but he would only have less than 20 college starts

    1st of all, who names their kid Arch?  Yup, definitely not enough starts.  But lineage would drive up his value.  I don't know what the '27 QB draft class looks like, but '26 could be a competitive environment for QB's.  

    It seems like drafting Sanders screwed everything up.  And it could've.  But we still DO have the draft capital for the '26 QB round robin.  And we have the 2nd hardest schedule.  We will have to see how Stef does with these 2 rookie QB's.  It's not really fair to give a rookie QB one season to prove whether he's worth hanging onto or not.  And we have TWO to evaluate.  

    The way I see it is...they have to decide if either of them is good enough for them to NOT draft a QB next season.  Now if it's Shedeur that becomes the starter, then Gabriel would probably be kept as the backup.  But if Gabriel becomes the starter, then probably Sanders would have to go as his Daddy would probably raise a fuss that his son ain't no backup!  

    If the decision is to go ahead and draft the best 1st round QB they can get then Gabriel would probably have to be the backup (unless he flat out sucks).  And Sanders would have to go.  If Gabriel sucks and Sanders isn't much better then they'll both have to go and we'll look for a veteran backup and a development QB to eventually be the backup.

    It'll be an interesting thing to watch unfold.  (if not painful)  ?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    regarding the '26 Draft, I don't see Arch Manning coming out. He could, but he would only have less than 20 college starts

    1st of all, who names their kid Arch?  Yup, definitely not enough starts.  But lineage would drive up his value.  I don't know what the '27 QB draft class looks like, but '26 could be a competitive environment for QB's.  

    It seems like drafting Sanders screwed everything up.  And it could've.  But we still DO have the draft capital for the '26 QB round robin.  And we have the 2nd hardest schedule.  We will have to see how Stef does with these 2 rookie QB's.  It's not really fair to give a rookie QB one season to prove whether he's worth hanging onto or not.  And we have TWO to evaluate.  

    The way I see it is...they have to decide if either of them is good enough for them to NOT draft a QB next season.  Now if it's Shedeur that becomes the starter, then Gabriel would probably be kept as the backup.  But if Gabriel becomes the starter, then probably Sanders would have to go as his Daddy would probably raise a fuss that his son ain't no backup!  

    If the decision is to go ahead and draft the best 1st round QB they can get then Gabriel would probably have to be the backup (unless he flat out sucks).  And Sanders would have to go.  If Gabriel sucks and Sanders isn't much better then they'll both have to go and we'll look for a veteran backup and a development QB to eventually be the backup.

    It'll be an interesting thing to watch unfold.  (if not painful)  ?

    @orion said:

    1st of all, who names their kid Arch?  Yup, definitely not enough starts.  But lineage would drive up his value.  I don't know what the '27 QB draft class looks like, but '26 could be a competitive environment for QB's.  

    It seems like drafting Sanders screwed everything up.  And it could've.  But we still DO have the draft capital for the '26 QB round robin.  And we have the 2nd hardest schedule.  We will have to see how Stef does with these 2 rookie QB's.  It's not really fair to give a rookie QB one season to prove whether he's worth hanging onto or not.  And we have TWO to evaluate.  

    The way I see it is...they have to decide if either of them is good enough for them to NOT draft a QB next season.  Now if it's Shedeur that becomes the starter, then Gabriel would probably be kept as the backup.  But if Gabriel becomes the starter, then probably Sanders would have to go as his Daddy would probably raise a fuss that his son ain't no backup!  

    If the decision is to go ahead and draft the best 1st round QB they can get then Gabriel would probably have to be the backup (unless he flat out sucks).  And Sanders would have to go.  If Gabriel sucks and Sanders isn't much better then they'll both have to go and we'll look for a veteran backup and a development QB to eventually be the backup.

    It'll be an interesting thing to watch unfold.  (if not painful)  ?

    I would be ok with taking Allar or Klubnik next year..

  • @orion said:

    1st of all, who names their kid Arch?  Yup, definitely not enough starts.  But lineage would drive up his value.  I don't know what the '27 QB draft class looks like, but '26 could be a competitive environment for QB's.  

    It seems like drafting Sanders screwed everything up.  And it could've.  But we still DO have the draft capital for the '26 QB round robin.  And we have the 2nd hardest schedule.  We will have to see how Stef does with these 2 rookie QB's.  It's not really fair to give a rookie QB one season to prove whether he's worth hanging onto or not.  And we have TWO to evaluate.  

    The way I see it is...they have to decide if either of them is good enough for them to NOT draft a QB next season.  Now if it's Shedeur that becomes the starter, then Gabriel would probably be kept as the backup.  But if Gabriel becomes the starter, then probably Sanders would have to go as his Daddy would probably raise a fuss that his son ain't no backup!  

    If the decision is to go ahead and draft the best 1st round QB they can get then Gabriel would probably have to be the backup (unless he flat out sucks).  And Sanders would have to go.  If Gabriel sucks and Sanders isn't much better then they'll both have to go and we'll look for a veteran backup and a development QB to eventually be the backup.

    It'll be an interesting thing to watch unfold.  (if not painful)  ?

    I would be ok with taking Allar or Klubnik next year..

    @nickers said:

    I would be ok with taking Allar or Klubnik next year..

    In reading a lot about Allar and Klubnik - Klunick is compared to ...like a more athletic Baker Mayfield. Allar is often compared to Josh Allen. Interesting pair of qbs.

  • We've positioned ourselves with 2 first round picks in next year's draft.  They can be used for a QB.  Or they can be used for an OT and a WR...or...a this and a that.  But now,  next year's draft is a long time away and no longer has anything to do with this season.  

    To the 5 QB's in the room:   One QB is injured and will probably spend the season on IR.  And if he heals up early, we send our pal Knuckles to see to it that he has a medical setback.  

    4 QB's in the room:   Two are rookies who won't get cut.  One is an old vet and one is a young vet that we traded DTR and a 5th round pick for.  I'm guessing that the old vet is the odd man out.

    3 QB's in the room:   Pickett (or Flacco, if I guessed wrong) opens as the starting QB.  Gabriel the backup and Sanders #3.  

    The hope:   In short order, Gabriel takes over as starter, leads us to a playoff birth and ends our QB search.  (or, if we glitched into an alternate universe, Sanders leads us to the playoffs with Gabriel as the backup)

    THEN, the draft comes and we have 2 first round picks instead of our usual zero.  ?

  • We've positioned ourselves with 2 first round picks in next year's draft.  They can be used for a QB.  Or they can be used for an OT and a WR...or...a this and a that.  But now,  next year's draft is a long time away and no longer has anything to do with this season.  

    To the 5 QB's in the room:   One QB is injured and will probably spend the season on IR.  And if he heals up early, we send our pal Knuckles to see to it that he has a medical setback.  

    4 QB's in the room:   Two are rookies who won't get cut.  One is an old vet and one is a young vet that we traded DTR and a 5th round pick for.  I'm guessing that the old vet is the odd man out.

    3 QB's in the room:   Pickett (or Flacco, if I guessed wrong) opens as the starting QB.  Gabriel the backup and Sanders #3.  

    The hope:   In short order, Gabriel takes over as starter, leads us to a playoff birth and ends our QB search.  (or, if we glitched into an alternate universe, Sanders leads us to the playoffs with Gabriel as the backup)

    THEN, the draft comes and we have 2 first round picks instead of our usual zero.  ?

    @orion said:

    We've positioned ourselves with 2 first round picks in next year's draft.  They can be used for a QB.  Or they can be used for an OT and a WR...or...a this and a that.  But now,  next year's draft is a long time away and no longer has anything to do with this season.  

    To the 5 QB's in the room:   One QB is injured and will probably spend the season on IR.  And if he heals up early, we send our pal Knuckles to see to it that he has a medical setback.  

    4 QB's in the room:   Two are rookies who won't get cut.  One is an old vet and one is a young vet that we traded DTR and a 5th round pick for.  I'm guessing that the old vet is the odd man out.

    3 QB's in the room:   Pickett (or Flacco, if I guessed wrong) opens as the starting QB.  Gabriel the backup and Sanders #3.  

    The hope:   In short order, Gabriel takes over as starter, leads us to a playoff birth and ends our QB search.  (or, if we glitched into an alternate universe, Sanders leads us to the playoffs with Gabriel as the backup)

    THEN, the draft comes and we have 2 first round picks instead of our usual zero.  ?

    My guess is Flacco is retained to teach the two rookies as each gets a fair shot at being "THE QB". Pickett will have to play far, far better in practices than he did at Pitt. Otherwise he's toast. Flacco will be like Kubiak was for Elway, the coach on the bench giving constructive feedback as the games progress.

  • @orion said:

    We've positioned ourselves with 2 first round picks in next year's draft.  They can be used for a QB.  Or they can be used for an OT and a WR...or...a this and a that.  But now,  next year's draft is a long time away and no longer has anything to do with this season.  

    To the 5 QB's in the room:   One QB is injured and will probably spend the season on IR.  And if he heals up early, we send our pal Knuckles to see to it that he has a medical setback.  

    4 QB's in the room:   Two are rookies who won't get cut.  One is an old vet and one is a young vet that we traded DTR and a 5th round pick for.  I'm guessing that the old vet is the odd man out.

    3 QB's in the room:   Pickett (or Flacco, if I guessed wrong) opens as the starting QB.  Gabriel the backup and Sanders #3.  

    The hope:   In short order, Gabriel takes over as starter, leads us to a playoff birth and ends our QB search.  (or, if we glitched into an alternate universe, Sanders leads us to the playoffs with Gabriel as the backup)

    THEN, the draft comes and we have 2 first round picks instead of our usual zero.  ?

    My guess is Flacco is retained to teach the two rookies as each gets a fair shot at being "THE QB". Pickett will have to play far, far better in practices than he did at Pitt. Otherwise he's toast. Flacco will be like Kubiak was for Elway, the coach on the bench giving constructive feedback as the games progress.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Pickett will have to play far, far better in practices than he did at Pitt. Otherwise he's toast.

    He did do a fairly good job in Philly when Hurst went down for a couple / few (?) weeks after taking on a tackler during a scramble run.

  • Looks like David Carr has chosen to retire at N.O.

  • Looks like David Carr has chosen to retire at N.O.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Looks like David Carr has chosen to retire at N.O.

    David Carr retired from the NFL like 15 years ago... 

    Derek you mean?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Looks like David Carr has chosen to retire at N.O.

    David Carr retired from the NFL like 15 years ago... 

    Derek you mean?

    @dutch-oven said:

    David Carr retired from the NFL like 15 years ago... 

    Derek you mean?

    Yeah that one.?The headline even confused them.

  • @orion said:

    We've positioned ourselves with 2 first round picks in next year's draft.  They can be used for a QB.  Or they can be used for an OT and a WR...or...a this and a that.  But now,  next year's draft is a long time away and no longer has anything to do with this season.  

    To the 5 QB's in the room:   One QB is injured and will probably spend the season on IR.  And if he heals up early, we send our pal Knuckles to see to it that he has a medical setback.  

    4 QB's in the room:   Two are rookies who won't get cut.  One is an old vet and one is a young vet that we traded DTR and a 5th round pick for.  I'm guessing that the old vet is the odd man out.

    3 QB's in the room:   Pickett (or Flacco, if I guessed wrong) opens as the starting QB.  Gabriel the backup and Sanders #3.  

    The hope:   In short order, Gabriel takes over as starter, leads us to a playoff birth and ends our QB search.  (or, if we glitched into an alternate universe, Sanders leads us to the playoffs with Gabriel as the backup)

    THEN, the draft comes and we have 2 first round picks instead of our usual zero.  ?

    My guess is Flacco is retained to teach the two rookies as each gets a fair shot at being "THE QB". Pickett will have to play far, far better in practices than he did at Pitt. Otherwise he's toast. Flacco will be like Kubiak was for Elway, the coach on the bench giving constructive feedback as the games progress.

    @texasag1969 said:

    My guess is Flacco is retained to teach the two rookies as each gets a fair shot at being "THE QB". Pickett will have to play far, far better in practices than he did at Pitt. Otherwise he's toast. Flacco will be like Kubiak was for Elway, the coach on the bench giving constructive feedback as the games progress.

    I’m guessing they’ll end up trading Pickett, doesn’t really make sense with 2 rookies and Flacco now.

    Flacco makes too much sense as the veteran given how knowledgeable he is of the kubiak/stefanski style offense.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    My guess is Flacco is retained to teach the two rookies as each gets a fair shot at being "THE QB". Pickett will have to play far, far better in practices than he did at Pitt. Otherwise he's toast. Flacco will be like Kubiak was for Elway, the coach on the bench giving constructive feedback as the games progress.

    I’m guessing they’ll end up trading Pickett, doesn’t really make sense with 2 rookies and Flacco now.

    Flacco makes too much sense as the veteran given how knowledgeable he is of the kubiak/stefanski style offense.

    @bbedward said:

    I’m guessing they’ll end up trading Pickett, doesn’t really make sense with 2 rookies and Flacco now.

    Flacco makes too much sense as the veteran given how knowledgeable he is of the kubiak/stefanski style offense.

    That makes sense, but then again, the Browns went after Pickett and traded for him as soon as they could, while Flacco sat at home for months before the Browns finally pulled the trigger on bringing him back. On the surface, it seems like the Browns were more interested in Pickett than Flacco. 

    But if both are given an even chance to win the starting job, you gotta think Joe wins, right? 

    The QB situation will keep the local Browns beat busy all summer long. Should be interesting to see unfold. 

  • The more I read and watch about Schwesinger, the more I like the kid.

    But his playing style and as high as he was taken tells me JOK's career might be over. 

  • Thanks to Google, here's a look below at some productive NFL QBs that were listed between 5'11" and 6' tall:

  • @dutch-oven said:

    So Zach said that Sanders looked better than Gabriel.  And that they'll be bringing in a lot of WR's to the 90 because they're going to run extra 7 on 7's during/at the end of  practices to get all of the QB's plenty of reps.  It's good to hear that they've put their thinking caps on as far as how to handle the 4 QB evaluation process.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    So Zach said that Sanders looked better than Gabriel.  And that they'll be bringing in a lot of WR's to the 90 because they're going to run extra 7 on 7's during/at the end of  practices to get all of the QB's plenty of reps.  It's good to hear that they've put their thinking caps on as far as how to handle the 4 QB evaluation process.  

    @orion said:

    So Zach said that Sanders looked better than Gabriel.  And that they'll be bringing in a lot of WR's to the 90 because they're going to run extra 7 on 7's during/at the end of  practices to get all of the QB's plenty of reps.  It's good to hear that they've put their thinking caps on as far as how to handle the 4 QB evaluation process.  

    Zac Jackson on that show is really good stuff, him and Jason Lloyd are must-see guys, specifically concerning the Browns.