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Charles Woodson Joins the Cleveland Browns as a Limited Partner

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  • I'm not sure if he'll be as involved as Tom Brady will be with his similar position with the Raiders.  That said, this seems like a very clever way to babysit/distract Prime Time on game days in Cleveland.  

  • I don't know what a minority owner does. They don't have any real voting sway, though they do have a voice and get to go to owner meetings.  Having Woodson around might help with relations inside team and community, so that could be a good thing. I have no idea what sort of % he bought.  5% maybe?

    If he hangs around camp and the staff wants his help now and then with DB's, that couldn't hurt anything.

  • I don't know what a minority owner does. They don't have any real voting sway, though they do have a voice and get to go to owner meetings.  Having Woodson around might help with relations inside team and community, so that could be a good thing. I have no idea what sort of % he bought.  5% maybe?

    If he hangs around camp and the staff wants his help now and then with DB's, that couldn't hurt anything.

    @ballpeen said:

    I don't know what a minority owner does. They don't have any real voting sway, though they do have a voice and get to go to owner meetings.  Having Woodson around might help with relations inside team and community, so that could be a good thing. I have no idea what sort of % he bought.  5% maybe?

    If he hangs around camp and the staff wants his help now and then with DB's, that couldn't hurt anything.

    Specifically make the play of our safeties better. Yeah, I can go for that too.

  • I don't know what a minority owner does. They don't have any real voting sway, though they do have a voice and get to go to owner meetings.  Having Woodson around might help with relations inside team and community, so that could be a good thing. I have no idea what sort of % he bought.  5% maybe?

    If he hangs around camp and the staff wants his help now and then with DB's, that couldn't hurt anything.

    @ballpeen said:

    I don't know what a minority owner does. They don't have any real voting sway, though they do have a voice and get to go to owner meetings.  Having Woodson around might help with relations inside team and community, so that could be a good thing. I have no idea what sort of % he bought.  5% maybe?

    If he hangs around camp and the staff wants his help now and then with DB's, that couldn't hurt anything.

    Yeah, I'm not quite sure the extent either.  In reading that article, I saw his son plays varsity football for Lake Nona High School in Orlando and Woodson is one of their Defensive Coaches.  That doesn't mean there wouldn't be opportunities here for him to help with the secondary here and there given how early high school football starts and ends in Florida.  

    I'm sure he's really excited the Browns drafted Mason Graham... 

  • @ballpeen said:

    I don't know what a minority owner does. They don't have any real voting sway, though they do have a voice and get to go to owner meetings.  Having Woodson around might help with relations inside team and community, so that could be a good thing. I have no idea what sort of % he bought.  5% maybe?

    If he hangs around camp and the staff wants his help now and then with DB's, that couldn't hurt anything.

    Specifically make the play of our safeties better. Yeah, I can go for that too.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Specifically make the play of our safeties better. Yeah, I can go for that too.

    Our Corners could use his help as well.  They'll just have to wait until his high school team is done playing in November - which could conceivably make him available for the last 7 or 8 games.  

  • I don't know what a minority owner does. They don't have any real voting sway, though they do have a voice and get to go to owner meetings.  Having Woodson around might help with relations inside team and community, so that could be a good thing. I have no idea what sort of % he bought.  5% maybe?

    If he hangs around camp and the staff wants his help now and then with DB's, that couldn't hurt anything.

    @ballpeen said:

    have no idea what sort of % he bought.  5% maybe?

    0.1 %

  • @ballpeen said:

    have no idea what sort of % he bought.  5% maybe?

    0.1 %

    @orion said:

    0.1 %

    Thanks. So the team is valued a 5billion, give or take, so that represents a $500,000 investment.

    Seems like a big investment to us, but when you consider a billion is 1000 million, it might not be chump change, but it isn't a lot.

  • And to be sure, Woodson didn't buy in to be a coach for the team. I don't think any coaches pay the owner to be a coach.

    If he does any of that it would be limited.  It's not like he is going to show up at practice with a clipboard and whistle around his neck.

  • And to be sure, Woodson didn't buy in to be a coach for the team. I don't think any coaches pay the owner to be a coach.

    If he does any of that it would be limited.  It's not like he is going to show up at practice with a clipboard and whistle around his neck.

    @ballpeen said:

    And to be sure, Woodson didn't buy in to be a coach for the team. I don't think any coaches pay the owner to be a coach.

    If he does any of that it would be limited.  It's not like he is going to show up at practice with a clipboard and whistle around his neck.

    ?  Are you sure - just in this 1 case?   Yeah, my guess is the closest scenario would be if our secondary is struggling someone on our coaching staff would want to pick his brain.  Not sure the reason always; but there's been either some epic breakdowns in that back tier or some guys really aren't understanding their assignments.  I'm sure any feedback or suggestions from the HOFer would be helpful to the players and the staff.

  • I read an article about him years ago. He was recruited by tOSU & scUM, decided to go to scUM because in tOSU's locker room a sign said " Beat ichigan."

    It swayed him in thinking it was a special place. At the time, Cooper couldn't handle the rivalry. 

    He had a great collegiate & NFL career

  • I read an article about him years ago. He was recruited by tOSU & scUM, decided to go to scUM because in tOSU's locker room a sign said " Beat ichigan."

    It swayed him in thinking it was a special place. At the time, Cooper couldn't handle the rivalry. 

    He had a great collegiate & NFL career

    @bob806 said:

    I read an article about him years ago. He was recruited by tOSU & scUM, decided to go to scUM because in tOSU's locker room a sign said " Beat ichigan."

    It swayed him in thinking it was a special place. At the time, Cooper couldn't handle the rivalry. 

    He had a great collegiate & NFL career

    He did, however he shouldn't have won the Heisman over Peyton Manning.

  • @bob806 said:

    I read an article about him years ago. He was recruited by tOSU & scUM, decided to go to scUM because in tOSU's locker room a sign said " Beat ichigan."

    It swayed him in thinking it was a special place. At the time, Cooper couldn't handle the rivalry. 

    He had a great collegiate & NFL career

    He did, however he shouldn't have won the Heisman over Peyton Manning.

    @ballpeen said:

    He did, however he shouldn't have won the Heisman over Peyton Manning.

    This is going to seem like very dumb criteria on my part (because it's unfair) so I'm sure there will be many that disagree with it.  Here goes - Peyton just couldn't ever beat UT's enormous rival in Florida at the time. I truly believe he would have won it if they finally beat Florida; because doing so was a big reason to come back for the 4th year aside from the reality of how much 1 more year of experience as starter benefits a QB prospect (Arch will probably be carefully advised by family that he needs 1 more year of starting experience to ready himself for the next level). 

    Woodson, on the other hand, was a huge reason his team beat Ohio State.  Many of the highlights endorsing him were against Ohio State (similar to Desmond Howard back when he won it).  I cant lie though - I was still surprised a DB won it over a generational QB.  Today, I have hindsight 20/20 assisting my pov.

  • @ballpeen said:

    He did, however he shouldn't have won the Heisman over Peyton Manning.

    This is going to seem like very dumb criteria on my part (because it's unfair) so I'm sure there will be many that disagree with it.  Here goes - Peyton just couldn't ever beat UT's enormous rival in Florida at the time. I truly believe he would have won it if they finally beat Florida; because doing so was a big reason to come back for the 4th year aside from the reality of how much 1 more year of experience as starter benefits a QB prospect (Arch will probably be carefully advised by family that he needs 1 more year of starting experience to ready himself for the next level). 

    Woodson, on the other hand, was a huge reason his team beat Ohio State.  Many of the highlights endorsing him were against Ohio State (similar to Desmond Howard back when he won it).  I cant lie though - I was still surprised a DB won it over a generational QB.  Today, I have hindsight 20/20 assisting my pov.

    @flugel said:

    This is going to seem like very dumb criteria on my part (because it's unfair) so I'm sure there will be many that disagree with it.  Here goes - Peyton just couldn't ever beat UT's enormous rival in Florida at the time. I truly believe he would have won it if they finally beat Florida; because doing so was a big reason to come back for the 4th year aside from the reality of how much 1 more year of experience as starter benefits a QB prospect (Arch will probably be carefully advised by family that he needs 1 more year of starting experience to ready himself for the next level). 

    Woodson, on the other hand, was a huge reason his team beat Ohio State.  Many of the highlights endorsing him were against Ohio State (similar to Desmond Howard back when he won it).  I cant lie though - I was still surprised a DB won it over a generational QB.  Today, I have hindsight 20/20 assisting my pov.

    You also seem to forget that Woodson is the only defender to have won the Heisman. In all of these years, only 1 defender has won, and it was over Manning?

    Naa, I don't buy it.

  • @flugel said:

    This is going to seem like very dumb criteria on my part (because it's unfair) so I'm sure there will be many that disagree with it.  Here goes - Peyton just couldn't ever beat UT's enormous rival in Florida at the time. I truly believe he would have won it if they finally beat Florida; because doing so was a big reason to come back for the 4th year aside from the reality of how much 1 more year of experience as starter benefits a QB prospect (Arch will probably be carefully advised by family that he needs 1 more year of starting experience to ready himself for the next level). 

    Woodson, on the other hand, was a huge reason his team beat Ohio State.  Many of the highlights endorsing him were against Ohio State (similar to Desmond Howard back when he won it).  I cant lie though - I was still surprised a DB won it over a generational QB.  Today, I have hindsight 20/20 assisting my pov.

    You also seem to forget that Woodson is the only defender to have won the Heisman. In all of these years, only 1 defender has won, and it was over Manning?

    Naa, I don't buy it.

    @ballpeen said:

    You also seem to forget that Woodson is the only defender to have won the Heisman. In all of these years, only 1 defender has won, and it was over Manning?

    Naa, I don't buy it.

    Who says I forgot it?   Do you think Ohio State fans like seeing Michigan players winning the Heisman?  I don't have anything to do with how they vote on it and who gets to do it.

    I'll tell you what else I didn't forget.  UT won the National Championship the very next year with a 13-0 record behind a much lesser QB than Peyton by the name of Tee Martin.  They also had to beat Florida along the way to be able to accomplish this.  Both of us have lived in TN to understand how much that game vrs Florida meant every year. Nobody is going to give you those big games because your name is Peyton. 

    It doesn't matter if you don't want to buy it or not.  It is what it is...  

  • Woodson also played WR occasionally. 

  • Woodson also played WR occasionally. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Woodson also played WR occasionally. 

    Ahh...no wonder we traded the #2 pick.  We already had somebody who played DB & WR.  

    I still can't believe that we swapped 1st round picks with the Jag's and got their 1st pick next year, and their 2nd rounder this year.  

    So far, the score is:  Jags - Hunter       Browns - Graham, Judkins, (1st rounder 2026)

  • A classy player and a classier human being. Good luck Charles!

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Woodson also played WR occasionally. 

    Ahh...no wonder we traded the #2 pick.  We already had somebody who played DB & WR.  

    I still can't believe that we swapped 1st round picks with the Jag's and got their 1st pick next year, and their 2nd rounder this year.  

    So far, the score is:  Jags - Hunter       Browns - Graham, Judkins, (1st rounder 2026)

    @orion said:

    Ahh...no wonder we traded the #2 pick.  We already had somebody who played DB & WR.  

    I still can't believe that we swapped 1st round picks with the Jag's and got their 1st pick next year, and their 2nd rounder this year.  

    So far, the score is:  Jags - Hunter       Browns - Graham, Judkins, (1st rounder 2026)

    Honestly I would have been fine dropping from #2 to 5 for their first rounder… getting the #36 overall pick this year was bananas! 

  • @orion said:

    Ahh...no wonder we traded the #2 pick.  We already had somebody who played DB & WR.  

    I still can't believe that we swapped 1st round picks with the Jag's and got their 1st pick next year, and their 2nd rounder this year.  

    So far, the score is:  Jags - Hunter       Browns - Graham, Judkins, (1st rounder 2026)

    Honestly I would have been fine dropping from #2 to 5 for their first rounder… getting the #36 overall pick this year was bananas! 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Honestly I would have been fine dropping from #2 to 5 for their first rounder… getting the #36 overall pick this year was bananas! 

    In essence we traded a guy who might play offense and defense, for 2 starters - 1 on offense, 1 on defense.  With an extra 1st rounder in our pocket for next year.  An excellent draft day trade.  Of course, a couple of days later we made another draft day trade.  We're in wait & see mode on that one.  

  • @flugel said:

    This is going to seem like very dumb criteria on my part (because it's unfair) so I'm sure there will be many that disagree with it.  Here goes - Peyton just couldn't ever beat UT's enormous rival in Florida at the time. I truly believe he would have won it if they finally beat Florida; because doing so was a big reason to come back for the 4th year aside from the reality of how much 1 more year of experience as starter benefits a QB prospect (Arch will probably be carefully advised by family that he needs 1 more year of starting experience to ready himself for the next level). 

    Woodson, on the other hand, was a huge reason his team beat Ohio State.  Many of the highlights endorsing him were against Ohio State (similar to Desmond Howard back when he won it).  I cant lie though - I was still surprised a DB won it over a generational QB.  Today, I have hindsight 20/20 assisting my pov.

    You also seem to forget that Woodson is the only defender to have won the Heisman. In all of these years, only 1 defender has won, and it was over Manning?

    Naa, I don't buy it.

    @ballpeen said:

    You also seem to forget that Woodson is the only defender to have won the Heisman. In all of these years, only 1 defender has won, and it was over Manning?

    Naa, I don't buy it.

    You know who else I didn't forget?  Gino Torretta won the Heisman in 1992.  Do you think there might have been more worthy players for that Award that weren't QBs that year?  I sure do.