Charles Woodson Joins the Cleveland Browns as a Limited Partner
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I don't know what a minority owner does. They don't have any real voting sway, though they do have a voice and get to go to owner meetings. Having Woodson around might help with relations inside team and community, so that could be a good thing. I have no idea what sort of % he bought. 5% maybe?
If he hangs around camp and the staff wants his help now and then with DB's, that couldn't hurt anything.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
I don't know what a minority owner does. They don't have any real voting sway, though they do have a voice and get to go to owner meetings. Having Woodson around might help with relations inside team and community, so that could be a good thing. I have no idea what sort of % he bought. 5% maybe?
If he hangs around camp and the staff wants his help now and then with DB's, that couldn't hurt anything.
I don't know what a minority owner does. They don't have any real voting sway, though they do have a voice and get to go to owner meetings. Having Woodson around might help with relations inside team and community, so that could be a good thing. I have no idea what sort of % he bought. 5% maybe?
If he hangs around camp and the staff wants his help now and then with DB's, that couldn't hurt anything.
Specifically make the play of our safeties better. Yeah, I can go for that too.
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I don't know what a minority owner does. They don't have any real voting sway, though they do have a voice and get to go to owner meetings. Having Woodson around might help with relations inside team and community, so that could be a good thing. I have no idea what sort of % he bought. 5% maybe?
If he hangs around camp and the staff wants his help now and then with DB's, that couldn't hurt anything.
I don't know what a minority owner does. They don't have any real voting sway, though they do have a voice and get to go to owner meetings. Having Woodson around might help with relations inside team and community, so that could be a good thing. I have no idea what sort of % he bought. 5% maybe?
If he hangs around camp and the staff wants his help now and then with DB's, that couldn't hurt anything.
Yeah, I'm not quite sure the extent either. In reading that article, I saw his son plays varsity football for Lake Nona High School in Orlando and Woodson is one of their Defensive Coaches. That doesn't mean there wouldn't be opportunities here for him to help with the secondary here and there given how early high school football starts and ends in Florida.
I'm sure he's really excited the Browns drafted Mason Graham...
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I don't know what a minority owner does. They don't have any real voting sway, though they do have a voice and get to go to owner meetings. Having Woodson around might help with relations inside team and community, so that could be a good thing. I have no idea what sort of % he bought. 5% maybe?
If he hangs around camp and the staff wants his help now and then with DB's, that couldn't hurt anything.
Specifically make the play of our safeties better. Yeah, I can go for that too.
Specifically make the play of our safeties better. Yeah, I can go for that too.
Our Corners could use his help as well. They'll just have to wait until his high school team is done playing in November - which could conceivably make him available for the last 7 or 8 games.
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I don't know what a minority owner does. They don't have any real voting sway, though they do have a voice and get to go to owner meetings. Having Woodson around might help with relations inside team and community, so that could be a good thing. I have no idea what sort of % he bought. 5% maybe?
If he hangs around camp and the staff wants his help now and then with DB's, that couldn't hurt anything.
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And to be sure, Woodson didn't buy in to be a coach for the team. I don't think any coaches pay the owner to be a coach.
If he does any of that it would be limited. It's not like he is going to show up at practice with a clipboard and whistle around his neck.
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And to be sure, Woodson didn't buy in to be a coach for the team. I don't think any coaches pay the owner to be a coach.
If he does any of that it would be limited. It's not like he is going to show up at practice with a clipboard and whistle around his neck.
And to be sure, Woodson didn't buy in to be a coach for the team. I don't think any coaches pay the owner to be a coach.
If he does any of that it would be limited. It's not like he is going to show up at practice with a clipboard and whistle around his neck.
? Are you sure - just in this 1 case? Yeah, my guess is the closest scenario would be if our secondary is struggling someone on our coaching staff would want to pick his brain. Not sure the reason always; but there's been either some epic breakdowns in that back tier or some guys really aren't understanding their assignments. I'm sure any feedback or suggestions from the HOFer would be helpful to the players and the staff.
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I read an article about him years ago. He was recruited by tOSU & scUM, decided to go to scUM because in tOSU's locker room a sign said " Beat ichigan."
It swayed him in thinking it was a special place. At the time, Cooper couldn't handle the rivalry.
He had a great collegiate & NFL career
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I read an article about him years ago. He was recruited by tOSU & scUM, decided to go to scUM because in tOSU's locker room a sign said " Beat ichigan."
It swayed him in thinking it was a special place. At the time, Cooper couldn't handle the rivalry.
He had a great collegiate & NFL career
I read an article about him years ago. He was recruited by tOSU & scUM, decided to go to scUM because in tOSU's locker room a sign said " Beat ichigan."
It swayed him in thinking it was a special place. At the time, Cooper couldn't handle the rivalry.
He had a great collegiate & NFL career
He did, however he shouldn't have won the Heisman over Peyton Manning.
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I read an article about him years ago. He was recruited by tOSU & scUM, decided to go to scUM because in tOSU's locker room a sign said " Beat ichigan."
It swayed him in thinking it was a special place. At the time, Cooper couldn't handle the rivalry.
He had a great collegiate & NFL career
He did, however he shouldn't have won the Heisman over Peyton Manning.
He did, however he shouldn't have won the Heisman over Peyton Manning.
This is going to seem like very dumb criteria on my part (because it's unfair) so I'm sure there will be many that disagree with it. Here goes - Peyton just couldn't ever beat UT's enormous rival in Florida at the time. I truly believe he would have won it if they finally beat Florida; because doing so was a big reason to come back for the 4th year aside from the reality of how much 1 more year of experience as starter benefits a QB prospect (Arch will probably be carefully advised by family that he needs 1 more year of starting experience to ready himself for the next level).
Woodson, on the other hand, was a huge reason his team beat Ohio State. Many of the highlights endorsing him were against Ohio State (similar to Desmond Howard back when he won it). I cant lie though - I was still surprised a DB won it over a generational QB. Today, I have hindsight 20/20 assisting my pov.
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He did, however he shouldn't have won the Heisman over Peyton Manning.
This is going to seem like very dumb criteria on my part (because it's unfair) so I'm sure there will be many that disagree with it. Here goes - Peyton just couldn't ever beat UT's enormous rival in Florida at the time. I truly believe he would have won it if they finally beat Florida; because doing so was a big reason to come back for the 4th year aside from the reality of how much 1 more year of experience as starter benefits a QB prospect (Arch will probably be carefully advised by family that he needs 1 more year of starting experience to ready himself for the next level).
Woodson, on the other hand, was a huge reason his team beat Ohio State. Many of the highlights endorsing him were against Ohio State (similar to Desmond Howard back when he won it). I cant lie though - I was still surprised a DB won it over a generational QB. Today, I have hindsight 20/20 assisting my pov.
This is going to seem like very dumb criteria on my part (because it's unfair) so I'm sure there will be many that disagree with it. Here goes - Peyton just couldn't ever beat UT's enormous rival in Florida at the time. I truly believe he would have won it if they finally beat Florida; because doing so was a big reason to come back for the 4th year aside from the reality of how much 1 more year of experience as starter benefits a QB prospect (Arch will probably be carefully advised by family that he needs 1 more year of starting experience to ready himself for the next level).
Woodson, on the other hand, was a huge reason his team beat Ohio State. Many of the highlights endorsing him were against Ohio State (similar to Desmond Howard back when he won it). I cant lie though - I was still surprised a DB won it over a generational QB. Today, I have hindsight 20/20 assisting my pov.
You also seem to forget that Woodson is the only defender to have won the Heisman. In all of these years, only 1 defender has won, and it was over Manning?
Naa, I don't buy it.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
This is going to seem like very dumb criteria on my part (because it's unfair) so I'm sure there will be many that disagree with it. Here goes - Peyton just couldn't ever beat UT's enormous rival in Florida at the time. I truly believe he would have won it if they finally beat Florida; because doing so was a big reason to come back for the 4th year aside from the reality of how much 1 more year of experience as starter benefits a QB prospect (Arch will probably be carefully advised by family that he needs 1 more year of starting experience to ready himself for the next level).
Woodson, on the other hand, was a huge reason his team beat Ohio State. Many of the highlights endorsing him were against Ohio State (similar to Desmond Howard back when he won it). I cant lie though - I was still surprised a DB won it over a generational QB. Today, I have hindsight 20/20 assisting my pov.
You also seem to forget that Woodson is the only defender to have won the Heisman. In all of these years, only 1 defender has won, and it was over Manning?
Naa, I don't buy it.
You also seem to forget that Woodson is the only defender to have won the Heisman. In all of these years, only 1 defender has won, and it was over Manning?
Naa, I don't buy it.
Who says I forgot it? Do you think Ohio State fans like seeing Michigan players winning the Heisman? I don't have anything to do with how they vote on it and who gets to do it.
I'll tell you what else I didn't forget. UT won the National Championship the very next year with a 13-0 record behind a much lesser QB than Peyton by the name of Tee Martin. They also had to beat Florida along the way to be able to accomplish this. Both of us have lived in TN to understand how much that game vrs Florida meant every year. Nobody is going to give you those big games because your name is Peyton.
It doesn't matter if you don't want to buy it or not. It is what it is...
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Woodson also played WR occasionally.
Woodson also played WR occasionally.
Ahh...no wonder we traded the #2 pick. We already had somebody who played DB & WR.
I still can't believe that we swapped 1st round picks with the Jag's and got their 1st pick next year, and their 2nd rounder this year.
So far, the score is: Jags - Hunter Browns - Graham, Judkins, (1st rounder 2026)
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
A classy player and a classier human being. Good luck Charles!
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Woodson also played WR occasionally.
Ahh...no wonder we traded the #2 pick. We already had somebody who played DB & WR.
I still can't believe that we swapped 1st round picks with the Jag's and got their 1st pick next year, and their 2nd rounder this year.
So far, the score is: Jags - Hunter Browns - Graham, Judkins, (1st rounder 2026)
Ahh...no wonder we traded the #2 pick. We already had somebody who played DB & WR.
I still can't believe that we swapped 1st round picks with the Jag's and got their 1st pick next year, and their 2nd rounder this year.
So far, the score is: Jags - Hunter Browns - Graham, Judkins, (1st rounder 2026)
Honestly I would have been fine dropping from #2 to 5 for their first rounder… getting the #36 overall pick this year was bananas!
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Ahh...no wonder we traded the #2 pick. We already had somebody who played DB & WR.
I still can't believe that we swapped 1st round picks with the Jag's and got their 1st pick next year, and their 2nd rounder this year.
So far, the score is: Jags - Hunter Browns - Graham, Judkins, (1st rounder 2026)
Honestly I would have been fine dropping from #2 to 5 for their first rounder… getting the #36 overall pick this year was bananas!
Honestly I would have been fine dropping from #2 to 5 for their first rounder… getting the #36 overall pick this year was bananas!
In essence we traded a guy who might play offense and defense, for 2 starters - 1 on offense, 1 on defense. With an extra 1st rounder in our pocket for next year. An excellent draft day trade. Of course, a couple of days later we made another draft day trade. We're in wait & see mode on that one.
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This is going to seem like very dumb criteria on my part (because it's unfair) so I'm sure there will be many that disagree with it. Here goes - Peyton just couldn't ever beat UT's enormous rival in Florida at the time. I truly believe he would have won it if they finally beat Florida; because doing so was a big reason to come back for the 4th year aside from the reality of how much 1 more year of experience as starter benefits a QB prospect (Arch will probably be carefully advised by family that he needs 1 more year of starting experience to ready himself for the next level).
Woodson, on the other hand, was a huge reason his team beat Ohio State. Many of the highlights endorsing him were against Ohio State (similar to Desmond Howard back when he won it). I cant lie though - I was still surprised a DB won it over a generational QB. Today, I have hindsight 20/20 assisting my pov.
You also seem to forget that Woodson is the only defender to have won the Heisman. In all of these years, only 1 defender has won, and it was over Manning?
Naa, I don't buy it.
You also seem to forget that Woodson is the only defender to have won the Heisman. In all of these years, only 1 defender has won, and it was over Manning?
Naa, I don't buy it.
You know who else I didn't forget? Gino Torretta won the Heisman in 1992. Do you think there might have been more worthy players for that Award that weren't QBs that year? I sure do.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
You also seem to forget that Woodson is the only defender to have won the Heisman. In all of these years, only 1 defender has won, and it was over Manning?
Naa, I don't buy it.
You know who else I didn't forget? Gino Torretta won the Heisman in 1992. Do you think there might have been more worthy players for that Award that weren't QBs that year? I sure do.
You know who else I didn't forget? Gino Torretta won the Heisman in 1992. Do you think there might have been more worthy players for that Award that weren't QBs that year? I sure do.
you were correct sir
Heisman Voting
Rk Player School Class Pos 1st 2nd 3rd Tot Summary 1 Gino Torretta Miami (FL) SR QB 310 179 112 1400 228 Cmp, 402 Att, 3060 Yds, 19 TD, 7 Int 2 Marshall Faulk San Diego State SO RB 164 207 174 1080 265 Att, 1630 Yds, 6.2 Avg, 15 TD 3 Garrison Hearst Georgia JR RB 140 196 170 982 228 Att, 1547 Yds, 6.8 Avg, 19 TD 4 Marvin Jones Florida State JR LB 81 51 47 392 5 Reggie Brooks Notre Dame SR RB 42 53 62 294 167 Att, 1343 Yds, 8.0 Avg, 13 TD 6 Charlie Ward Florida State JR QB 18 18 36 126 204 Cmp, 365 Att, 2647 Yds, 22 TD, 17 Int 7 Michael Barrow Miami (FL) SR LB 10 10 14 64 8 Drew Bledsoe Washington State JR QB 6 8 14 48 211 Cmp, 386 Att, 2770 Yds, 18 TD, 14 Int 9 Eric Curry Alabama SR DL 3 13 12 47 9 Glyn Milburn Stanford
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