For your Browns Monday morning reading
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Wow. ?
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Forget next year. Between Pickett, Gabe, and Sanders, one of them is going to be a good QB.
Next year is a copout.
I'd used that 'next year is a copout' phrase leading up to the draft. But by the end of the Friday night draft, the plan was spelled out to us that we were doing the 'QB thing' next year with his backup already in place. THEN we drafted Sanders. The 'cop out' now goes away because the attitude has shifted to, Are one of these two the franchise QB?
They liked Gabriel. But in Sanders they got the guy that supposedly had the highest floor. It's not Next Year anymore. It's This Year to fix the QB position. ( unless the 2 QB's don't show anything...in which case it'll be Next Year...but we won't know that until January approaches )
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I'd used that 'next year is a copout' phrase leading up to the draft. But by the end of the Friday night draft, the plan was spelled out to us that we were doing the 'QB thing' next year with his backup already in place. THEN we drafted Sanders. The 'cop out' now goes away because the attitude has shifted to, Are one of these two the franchise QB?
They liked Gabriel. But in Sanders they got the guy that supposedly had the highest floor. It's not Next Year anymore. It's This Year to fix the QB position. ( unless the 2 QB's don't show anything...in which case it'll be Next Year...but we won't know that until January approaches )
If we listen guys that played in the NFL like HOF TE Shannon Sharpe who started in multiple SBs - he thought Sheduer is a 1st round talent and clearly the most accurate QB in the draft. He and others know that around the time of the last SB Deion was running his mouth about a cluster of teams he didn't want Shedeur playing for. The problem with that was - those were all the teams needing QBs. The Browns were also aware of his prior comments about the Browns. So.... When round 5 came and the ENTIRE league showed Deion - your son will play where the league says he will play.
I think we got a 1st round talent in Shedeur regardless of how unpopular it is to say that. Having said that, I'm also quite fond of Dillon Gabriel even before the draft.
It's a little early to stick a fork in them because there might be good QBs in 2026 IMO.
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I wouldn't read too much into the title, but apparently he's not looking like what they paid for him. Remember, we would have been critical just paying the 2nd pick for him....imagine the disappointment you would be feeling for how much Jax paid.
I'm sure he will be a star, but Ohanti might have been Kevin's sales pitch rather than his true feelings.
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Cleveland Browns News / Browns Nation / 1 hour agoI would add a 3rd rookie game changer, a much needed TE with the added abilities of WR and slot. To our rookie QBs Fannin,Jr will be a "fixer".
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Cleveland Browns News / Browns Nation / 1 hour ago
I would add a 3rd rookie game changer, a much needed TE with the added abilities of WR and slot. To our rookie QBs Fannin,Jr will be a "fixer".
I would add a 3rd rookie game changer, a much needed TE with the added abilities of WR and slot. To our rookie QBs Fannin,Jr will be a "fixer".
You beat me to it Aggies. I just posted the same thing in the Unofficial 2025 Pre-Training Camp Roster & Depth Charts thread.
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a damn good watch
I loved what they said with Fannin talking about great hands, late hands, etc. That's what I saw in person and makes him dangerous as a receiver in my mind. The other is studying a player who has great footwork to get off the line.
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Kevin Stefanski News / Browns Nation / 57 minutes ago
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At this juncture, head coach/play-caller Kevin Stefanski needs a hard reset and re-establish some kind of identity for his offense. It'll likely come in the form of the run game after Cleveland added Ohio State's Quinshon Judkins and Tennessee's Dylan Sampson in the draft' second and fourth rounds, respectively.
All the while, the Browns will hope a quality quarterback emerges from the quartet of Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett and rookies Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders.And somehow, navigating through the season while determining if the team needs to use one or both of it's 1st round picks for a QB next April. It's nice that Sanders fell to them...but it added an extra layer of complexity to the season.
And somehow, navigating through the season while determining if the team needs to use one or both of it's 1st round picks for a QB next April. It's nice that Sanders fell to them...but it added an extra layer of complexity to the season.
Given the state of the QB room, having an extra layer might not be a bad thing.
It probably won't be as hard as we think. There are three QB's we need to evaluate. We won't have to give Flacco many reps in camp. We aren't looking to see what he can do, we know what he can do, it will be more to see what he can't do. There is a difference between the two.
It boils down to Pickett, Gabe, and Sanders. Managing that trio shouldn't be that hard.
Unless someone falls flat, I expect to see 4 qb's on the final roster. If all look good but we decide we just can't keep 4, I expect to see Flacco released. I don't see any of the young QB's clearing waivers in an attempt to get them to the practice squad.
Joe is a great guy and has had an amazing career, but he holds no long term value.
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And somehow, navigating through the season while determining if the team needs to use one or both of it's 1st round picks for a QB next April. It's nice that Sanders fell to them...but it added an extra layer of complexity to the season.
Given the state of the QB room, having an extra layer might not be a bad thing.
It probably won't be as hard as we think. There are three QB's we need to evaluate. We won't have to give Flacco many reps in camp. We aren't looking to see what he can do, we know what he can do, it will be more to see what he can't do. There is a difference between the two.
It boils down to Pickett, Gabe, and Sanders. Managing that trio shouldn't be that hard.
Unless someone falls flat, I expect to see 4 qb's on the final roster. If all look good but we decide we just can't keep 4, I expect to see Flacco released. I don't see any of the young QB's clearing waivers in an attempt to get them to the practice squad.
Joe is a great guy and has had an amazing career, but he holds no long term value.
It probably won't be as hard as we think. There are three QB's we need to evaluate. We won't have to give Flacco many reps in camp. We aren't looking to see what he can do, we know what he can do, it will be more to see what he can't do. There is a difference between the two.
It boils down to Pickett, Gabe, and Sanders. Managing that trio shouldn't be that hard.
Good take, but the Browns fan in me has doubts about the last paragraph. The Browns seem to make many football-related decisions "hard."
My opinion, it's Pickett's job to lose. He's got experience reading defenses. The 2 rookies could out- shine him at camp, making it a tough call as far as the starter goes.
Brutal schedule, especially before the BYE. If Pickett falters, it's rookie time.
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It probably won't be as hard as we think. There are three QB's we need to evaluate. We won't have to give Flacco many reps in camp. We aren't looking to see what he can do, we know what he can do, it will be more to see what he can't do. There is a difference between the two.
It boils down to Pickett, Gabe, and Sanders. Managing that trio shouldn't be that hard.
Good take, but the Browns fan in me has doubts about the last paragraph. The Browns seem to make many football-related decisions "hard."
My opinion, it's Pickett's job to lose. He's got experience reading defenses. The 2 rookies could out- shine him at camp, making it a tough call as far as the starter goes.
Brutal schedule, especially before the BYE. If Pickett falters, it's rookie time.
Good take, but the Browns fan in me has doubts about the last paragraph. The Browns seem to make many football-related decisions "hard."
My opinion, it's Pickett's job to lose. He's got experience reading defenses. The 2 rookies could out- shine him at camp, making it a tough call as far as the starter goes.
Brutal schedule, especially before the BYE. If Pickett falters, it's rookie time.
As much as I agree with your thinking Bob - I was surprised to see the Browns decided not to exercise the 5th year option on his rookie contract which makes him a free agent in 2026.
As for the schedule, the Browns have always had a knack for finding ways to lose those games they're supposed to win. I'd rather have them showing wanting to prove naysayers wrong.
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Good take, but the Browns fan in me has doubts about the last paragraph. The Browns seem to make many football-related decisions "hard."
My opinion, it's Pickett's job to lose. He's got experience reading defenses. The 2 rookies could out- shine him at camp, making it a tough call as far as the starter goes.
Brutal schedule, especially before the BYE. If Pickett falters, it's rookie time.
As much as I agree with your thinking Bob - I was surprised to see the Browns decided not to exercise the 5th year option on his rookie contract which makes him a free agent in 2026.
As for the schedule, the Browns have always had a knack for finding ways to lose those games they're supposed to win. I'd rather have them showing wanting to prove naysayers wrong.
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Bernie Kosar News / Browns Nation / 39 minutes ago -
And somehow, navigating through the season while determining if the team needs to use one or both of it's 1st round picks for a QB next April. It's nice that Sanders fell to them...but it added an extra layer of complexity to the season.
Given the state of the QB room, having an extra layer might not be a bad thing.
It probably won't be as hard as we think. There are three QB's we need to evaluate. We won't have to give Flacco many reps in camp. We aren't looking to see what he can do, we know what he can do, it will be more to see what he can't do. There is a difference between the two.
It boils down to Pickett, Gabe, and Sanders. Managing that trio shouldn't be that hard.
Unless someone falls flat, I expect to see 4 qb's on the final roster. If all look good but we decide we just can't keep 4, I expect to see Flacco released. I don't see any of the young QB's clearing waivers in an attempt to get them to the practice squad.
Joe is a great guy and has had an amazing career, but he holds no long term value.
There are three QB's we need to evaluate. We won't have to give Flacco many reps in camp. We aren't looking to see what he can do, we know what he can do,
Quite true. Still though, it has to seem like he gets the same shot at making the team / being the starter that everybody else gets.
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Josh Cribbs News / Browns Nation / 48 minutes ago
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There are three QB's we need to evaluate. We won't have to give Flacco many reps in camp. We aren't looking to see what he can do, we know what he can do,
Quite true. Still though, it has to seem like he gets the same shot at making the team / being the starter that everybody else gets.
Quite true. Still though, it has to seem like he gets the same shot at making the team / being the starter that everybody else gets.
I don't know. My feeling is that he is the default if things don't go well with the others. I don't think Stefanski or Berry want him to be the starter. It makes no sense if they do.
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Quite true. Still though, it has to seem like he gets the same shot at making the team / being the starter that everybody else gets.
I don't know. My feeling is that he is the default if things don't go well with the others. I don't think Stefanski or Berry want him to be the starter. It makes no sense if they do.
I don't know. My feeling is that he is the default if things don't go well with the others. I don't think Stefanski or Berry want him to be the starter. It makes no sense if they do.
Have they ever figured out what it was specifically about Watson that was so desperately needed here by them that they guaranteed him 230 million $ and gave up 3 consecutive 1st round draft picks? Did they ever watch film to identify why specifically he was THEIR game changer? They were still hiring new offensive coaches going into his 3rd season here to figure out what they needed. Seems like if they knew specifically why he was their guy - setting up the right offense would have barrowed stuff Houston did with him when they made 2 post seasons and beat Josh Allen head to head in 1 of them in the closing minute. He made 3 Pro Bowls in that offense. Stefanski had HIS offense he brought from Minnesota that counted on timing. That wasn't the old offense in Minnesota where Fran Trankenton scrambled and improvised all the time that worked way better when Bud Grant was the HC; than before that when Norm Van Brocklin was all about timing and precision via QB getting the ball out of his hands in the pocket. In essence, Stefanski is more of a Van Brocklin mindset which isn't bad at all if your QB is wired to be this type of QB. Van Brocklin made the HOF as QB the excelled in that type of passing game he wanted to rewire Fran Tarkenton for. In football skillset only, Watson was like a Tarkenton improvising by scrambling all over the place in search of the guy breaking loose downfield. Nobody knew this when they went to the lengths they went to in order to sign him?
THAT is what scares me about the QB position with 1 exception. I'm holding out hope on 1 thing. This time they have Tommy Rees in tact as our OC for his input on the QB candidates here for 2025 and maybe thereafter. If they're bringing in square pegs for round holes - it's not gonna work. If they're bringing in guys they think are ideal pocket QBs that will get throws out of their hands in time to be accurate - this can be a QB competition this franchise needs.
We shall see...
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I don't know. My feeling is that he is the default if things don't go well with the others. I don't think Stefanski or Berry want him to be the starter. It makes no sense if they do.
Have they ever figured out what it was specifically about Watson that was so desperately needed here by them that they guaranteed him 230 million $ and gave up 3 consecutive 1st round draft picks? Did they ever watch film to identify why specifically he was THEIR game changer? They were still hiring new offensive coaches going into his 3rd season here to figure out what they needed. Seems like if they knew specifically why he was their guy - setting up the right offense would have barrowed stuff Houston did with him when they made 2 post seasons and beat Josh Allen head to head in 1 of them in the closing minute. He made 3 Pro Bowls in that offense. Stefanski had HIS offense he brought from Minnesota that counted on timing. That wasn't the old offense in Minnesota where Fran Trankenton scrambled and improvised all the time that worked way better when Bud Grant was the HC; than before that when Norm Van Brocklin was all about timing and precision via QB getting the ball out of his hands in the pocket. In essence, Stefanski is more of a Van Brocklin mindset which isn't bad at all if your QB is wired to be this type of QB. Van Brocklin made the HOF as QB the excelled in that type of passing game he wanted to rewire Fran Tarkenton for. In football skillset only, Watson was like a Tarkenton improvising by scrambling all over the place in search of the guy breaking loose downfield. Nobody knew this when they went to the lengths they went to in order to sign him?
THAT is what scares me about the QB position with 1 exception. I'm holding out hope on 1 thing. This time they have Tommy Rees in tact as our OC for his input on the QB candidates here for 2025 and maybe thereafter. If they're bringing in square pegs for round holes - it's not gonna work. If they're bringing in guys they think are ideal pocket QBs that will get throws out of their hands in time to be accurate - this can be a QB competition this franchise needs.
We shall see...
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Fannis, Jr. is no surprise. I expect big things from him this season.
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Fannis, Jr. is no surprise. I expect big things from him this season.
Fannis, Jr. is no surprise. I expect big things from him this season.
Considering where he was drafted, value-wise he might be my favorite draft pick… plus he comes from the same county I live in.
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