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  • I want to hate the guy too but I keep reminding myself that he took over possibly the worst team since the Bucs in the 70's. He may be a jerk and he may be strict but I have a really hard time feeling bad for these players. Most of them have been stealing monmey for a couple of years now. I honestly cannot name one guy I would miss if he were gone with the exception of Cribbs. Because of that I can keep perspective and say confidently that he cannot be this bad. He did build the Jets so we should at least give him a few years to flip this roster at least. Then, if he sucks and gets fired at least we will have some actual NFL talent here. Don't kid yourselves people, this roster has ZERO irreplacable talent. They keep saying they practice really well. Well guess what? When you practice against shitty players, your gonna look pretty good. But then Sunday comes and you actually have to play against real players and geuss what? You go 0 for 3 and never even sniff any chance of a victory. The roster needs flipped, we can't keep going through coaches, suck it up and get ready for the CAVS!!

    "Chances are, if you think Jay Leno is funny, I don't care for you as a person" - Peter Griffin

  • @danamal said:

    Bernie is a true student of the game and I love to hear him call the games in preseason.

    Even now when you hear him in interviews he still has such a passion for the game that is infectious.

    He would make a great QB coach and good mentor to these young guys.

    Bernie is awesome but lerner is afraid of him for some reason...

    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!

  • @danamal said:

    Bernie is a true student of the game and I love to hear him call the games in preseason.

    Even now when you hear him in interviews he still has such a passion for the game that is infectious.

    He would make a great QB coach and good mentor to these young guys.

    He should be GM. If not that, he NEEDS to take Deiken's job on the radio. Since when has "WOW"! or "he got em" been considered colour commentary? Thanks for the dead air Deiken. That's right, I turned this thread into a "bash Deiken" thread. That's how mad I am right now!

    Here's to Bernie Kosar Field in Cleveland Ohio 2010!!!

    "Chances are, if you think Jay Leno is funny, I don't care for you as a person" - Peter Griffin

  • @danamal said:

    AZ,

    I have to disagree.

    Last year was one of those injury seasons that happen and we were a mess because of it and the ever popular RAC/CHUD leadership,most of the players have remained the same and played with alot more heart for the jolly ole fat guy than they are displaying {healthy mind you}for the new guy.

    No,this is about a coach with more hype than substance and was just a bad pick like so many who dislike Quinn.

    Last year CLE's starters really weren't' ravaged by injuries.

    The players are not mostly the same as last year. They have turned over something like 26 players from last year. You can just look at the starting O and D and see over half the players on each side of the ball have changed from last year to this year.

    But Mangini is certainly looking bad at this point.

  • Folks, Bernie would first have to want to commit himself to a job of QB coach, HC, or OC. To date he has had zero interest in those jobs and has said so in various interviews over the years.

    We are also talking about Bernie who has had trouble running his personal life and his business life.

    I love Bernie, I love him calling the game, and he has a sharp football mind. But all of those things don't always equate to success outside of being a player.

  • Gimme a fooking break!

    I was happy they hired Chris Palmer, I was happy they hired Policy and Clark, I was happy they hired Butch and his Bitch, I was very happy they hired Savage.

    Csll me an idiot. I should be pissed at "they."

    Ok? Happy now?

    "I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said." William F Buckley

  • @inspecta said:

    I only liked the pick in regards to the fact that Lerner finally hired somebody with previous head coaching experience.

    However the sheen wore off quite a bit after that, and quickly.

    I loathe the man now...

    Amen. I think cautiously optimistic was about as good as it got for me. It went downhill fast from there.

    2009-10 Browns Prediction: 8-8

  • @inspecta said:

    Well personal life has little bearing on what he can do professionally. On a professional level he is a football guy with a football mind. I know a plethora of people who had fantastic careers in their fields but couldn't manage their finances or their personal lives worth a shit. The two are mutually exclusive.

    True. But if you can't run your business, that you are in charge of, you will have to forgive my concern for his ability to successfully run a football team.

  • Yeah I was definitely pumped about the Mangini hiring.

    I liked the no-nonsense approach as it was a complete 180 from what we previously had. Discipline, respect, and commitment are always solid foundations for a football team. Still need to win to get everybody on board.

    I trusted Mangini's pick in Daboll as OC. That's not working out so far. Is it Daboll's unimaginative playbook? Is it Mangini stomping on Daboll's neck? Who knows. But we have a serious problem playing football. And I'm standing on the gunwale ready to abandon ship (on this regime - not the Browns).

    I'm pissed, but they've got a couple more weeks (bye-ish). *Edit*I'm not looking for 500 yds on O & a shutout on D, but I'd like to see effort.

    Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula

  • The Chin for 2010

  • @inspecta said:

    I only liked the pick in regards to the fact that Lerner finally hired somebody with previous head coaching experience.

    However the sheen wore off quite a bit after that, and quickly.

    I loathe the man now...

    hate is a strong word, but I'm pretty much right there with you.

    3 seasons until our new head coach, let's hope they get it right this time.
  • Bernie is a true student of the game and I love to hear him call the games in preseason.

    Even now when you hear him in interviews he still has such a passion for the game that is infectious.

    He would make a great QB coach and good mentor to these young guys.

    If Bernie's ego would allow him to work as an assistant head coach, I'd hire him as the QB coach in a heartbeat.

    The guy's command of the game is rare. Exceedingly rare.

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  • When mangini got hired, someone told me that he would be good in cleveland because the players were better here than NY...when will these players be better..

  • Better watch the karma and that goes to those New York biased sportcasters who constantly slam Mangini 3 games into the job.

    Reversal can be a bitch. You better hope the Browns continue to struggle, because if they don't as bad..................

  • @inspecta said:

    I was NOT happy about the Palmer hiring. I was happy about Butch, and I was happy about RAC. I was indifferent to savage.

    Maybe this is good, I hated the Palmer hire. I hated the Davis hire. I liked the RAC hire (he won 10!) and I loved the Mangini hire. Maybe we're going on the right track. *hope hope hope hope hope*

    FLIP THIS ROSTER MANGINI!!!!!

    "Chances are, if you think Jay Leno is funny, I don't care for you as a person" - Peter Griffin

  • I still like Mangini. He hasn't made the best choices in every step, but at least he's not running a daycare like Romeo. Remember Romeo had Mo Carthon ruining every offensive drive, and Mangini has Daboll. Give it some time to sort things out.

    The players will come around eventually. We're an awful team, but there is hope on the horizon even if we go 0-16.

  • I didn't like the Mangini hiring and I still don't. The Browns seemed to settle for mediocrity when they signed him.

  • @inspecta said:

    I only liked the pick in regards to the fact that Lerner finally hired somebody with previous head coaching experience.

    However the sheen wore off quite a bit after that, and quickly.

    I loathe the man now...

    Here's a quick fact....in the browns history....we've hired only one other coach with prior HC experience....ONE!

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  • G Greythan
    Bernie is a true student of the game and I love to hear him call the games in preseason.

    Even now when you hear him in interviews he still has such a passion for the game that is infectious.

    He would make a great QB coach and good mentor to these young guys.

    If Bernie's ego would allow him to work as an assistant head coach, I'd hire him as the QB coach in a heartbeat.

    The guy's command of the game is rare. Exceedingly rare.

    @greythan said:

    If Bernie's ego would allow him to work as an assistant head coach, I'd hire him as the QB coach in a heartbeat.

    The guy's command of the game is rare. Exceedingly rare.

    FK Qb coach....give him fkn dabolt's job!

  • Worst Coaching Hire EVER? Maybe.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writ.../09/29/mangini/

    And of course here's a priceless quote about Mangini's decision to opt for the field goal down 27 with 10 minutes left to play

    http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/62243297.html

    Anderson took over in the second half and threw a poor interception, then guided a drive that ended at the Ravens' 12-yard line.

    Coach Eric Mangini chose to kick a field goal, down 27-0. Shades of the outcry when Romeo Crennel kicked a field goal in the opener a year ago against Dallas, down 28-7.

    Mangini used this reasoning for the decision: There were 10 or 12 minutes left, and three touchdowns and three 2-point conversions ties the game.

    He forgot to mention the part about monkeys flying in from Oz to carry away Ray Lewis.

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