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  • @dutch-oven said:

    Finding your franchise QB in the 5th round would be outstanding, and would set the Browns up for years. They'd have a cheap QB for four seasons, plus as you said could use two (probably high) first rounders on other positions. 

    Just a question.  Do you really think Shedeur's talent in what was sized up as a weak QB draft is really just 5th round in this draft?  Keep in mind, his dad is still the HC of Colorado just 4-5 weeks or so from their 1st game.  It shouldn't be the huge distraction that critics will want to exercise their told you so's with.  

    The QB inviting more worry is the one they drafted in round 3 (that I liked but not that early) just 1 round after they drafted the wrong Ohio State RB in round 2.  In those 2 spots, a very good LT and/or Defensive Back could have been drafted. Again, they had already added another 1st round pick for next year. Drafting 2 rookie QBs and bringing in 2 veterans QBs sends the message - "we're not very confident in ourselves but we need you to be confident in us."

    This assures me, Jimmy's organization would have given up on a guy like Josh Allen in the very first signs of inevitable growing pains.  It also tells me this ever so elusive "next year" has the same control freak at the top that doesn't understand how to develop a young/rookie QB.  It's NOT that I'm this enormous Shedeur Sanders fan - it's that this franchise can never differentiate what treatment plan needs to be prioritized in terms of the disease or the symptoms of it.  Just my opinion, they still don't get it - so fans/people will be talking about 2026 1st round QB prospects.  I think a guy like Tommy Rees gets it - but a control freak owner with a fraction of his football IQ does not. Hope I'm wrong!

    @flugel said:

    Again, they had already added another 1st round pick for next year. Drafting 2 rookie QBs and bringing in 2 veterans QBs sends the message - "we're not very confident

    Remember, the plan was not to draft 2 QB's.  They already had Pickett & Flacco and they were going to add Gabriel as the developmental QB who might be next year's backup QB to the draft pick.  Sanders just happened to fall all the way to the 5th round.  I mean, here we are in desperate need of a franchise QB...and here's a 5th round pick that many thought should've been a round 1 or 2 QB.  I think it was smart to go ahead and add him to the mix.  Who knows if he turns out to be special or not?   It's worth a shot.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Z4dkomXwW/?mibextid=D5vuiz

    He throws some beautiful wobblers doesn't he...  🙂   He appears built for the dome.  Except we don't have one.  

  • https://x.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1950237355782119564

    Mike Garafolo@MikeGarafolo
    From Inside Training Camp from the #Browns’ facility, where owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam addressed a number of newsy topics with reporters in their annual camp meeting with the media.
  • Emerson carted off the field.  A non contact left leg injury, had towel over his head

    D shutdown #12 in a red zone drill

  • @syd said:

    Damn. He had a bad year last season, but otherwise he's been good. Let's hope it's not serious.

  • @syd said:

    Damn. He had a bad year last season, but otherwise he's been good. Let's hope it's not serious.

    @bob806 said:

    Damn. He had a bad year last season, but otherwise he's been good. Let's hope it's not serious.

    from what they said on  NFLN (the would not show the injury) was that Haslem walked over and did not look pleased or something to the effect

  • to early to tell but from NFLN its a significant Achilles tear

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    to early to tell but from NFLN its a significant Achilles tear

    @syd said:

    to early to tell but from NFLN its a significant Achilles tear

    damnit

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    to early to tell but from NFLN its a significant Achilles tear

    @syd said:

    to early to tell but from NFLN its a significant Achilles tear

    The weird thing is this is the first year I can recall where AB didn't draft a CB. 

    Hopefully the back ups step up.

  • I'm getting exhausted with the continued failure and injuries with this team.. I'm really considering finding something else to do with my Sundays rather than suffer with the bullshit that just hangs around this teams neck like an albatross... Since Art took it away... It hasn't been anything remotely like the Cleveland Browns pre-expansion version... We have crap ownership that just decided to take tail gaiting away (at new venue)... A GM who can't draft football players to save his soul and a baseball dude who lives and dies by his laptop... Something has to give man...

  • Further thoughts defense. 

    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    Browns Camp thoughts after watching yesterday - Defense

    Defense -

    -Starting DL is Myles, McGuire, Collins and Graham. The rookie has a quick first step, heavy hands and great pad level. I expect to see flashes of his potential throughout the season alongwith rookie Show more

    Further thoughts offense 

    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    Browns Camp thoughts after watching yesterday- Offense

    QB's.
    - Sans Kenny Picket, Sanders is QB2 and he's closer to being the #1 than the #3.

    - I admire Dillon Gabriel's passion and hard work. But his physical limitations are obvious. He missed two reads over the middle Show more
  • I'm getting exhausted with the continued failure and injuries with this team.. I'm really considering finding something else to do with my Sundays rather than suffer with the bullshit that just hangs around this teams neck like an albatross... Since Art took it away... It hasn't been anything remotely like the Cleveland Browns pre-expansion version... We have crap ownership that just decided to take tail gaiting away (at new venue)... A GM who can't draft football players to save his soul and a baseball dude who lives and dies by his laptop... Something has to give man...

    @nickers said:

    I'm getting exhausted with the continued failure and injuries with this team.. I'm really considering finding something else to do with my Sundays rather than suffer with the bullshit that just hangs around this teams neck like an albatross... Since Art took it away... It hasn't been anything remotely like the Cleveland Browns pre-expansion version... We have crap ownership that just decided to take tail gaiting away (at new venue)... A GM who can't draft football players to save his soul and a baseball dude who lives and dies by his laptop... Something has to give man...

    But if you didn’t watch the Browns we would all miss out on your highly intelligent thoughts. 
     

  • Further thoughts defense. 

    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    Browns Camp thoughts after watching yesterday - Defense

    Defense -

    -Starting DL is Myles, McGuire, Collins and Graham. The rookie has a quick first step, heavy hands and great pad level. I expect to see flashes of his potential throughout the season alongwith rookie Show more

    Further thoughts offense 

    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    Browns Camp thoughts after watching yesterday- Offense

    QB's.
    - Sans Kenny Picket, Sanders is QB2 and he's closer to being the #1 than the #3.

    - I admire Dillon Gabriel's passion and hard work. But his physical limitations are obvious. He missed two reads over the middle Show more

    @tiamat63 said:

    Further thoughts defense. 

    Further thoughts offense 

    Dawand Jones grabbing hold of the LT spot for the rest of the decade would be fantastic. 
     

    I still can’t wrap my head around why the Browns took Dillon Gabriel in Rd 3. I’d rather had Will Howard in the 6th. 

  • We all knew it was coming, Emerson is officially done for the year with a torn achilles. 

    Looking at our depth chart at CB besides Ward, it does not look good: Chigozie Anusiem, Tony Brown II, Anthony Kendall, NIk Needham, Cameron Mitchell.

    I don't think we want Chigozie or Tony Brown II chasing around Tee Higgins. If Denzel were to get injured, we will be giving up 350+ passing yards a game.  I think it is a must at this point to go sign a veteran free agent CB.

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  • We all knew it was coming, Emerson is officially done for the year with a torn achilles. 

    Looking at our depth chart at CB besides Ward, it does not look good: Chigozie Anusiem, Tony Brown II, Anthony Kendall, NIk Needham, Cameron Mitchell.

    I don't think we want Chigozie or Tony Brown II chasing around Tee Higgins. If Denzel were to get injured, we will be giving up 350+ passing yards a game.  I think it is a must at this point to go sign a veteran free agent CB.

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    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    I think it is a must at this point to go sign a veteran free agent CB.

    Yup.  And you know Ward will be hurt at some point.  With all of his concussions he should've already retired.

  • @nickers said:

    I'm getting exhausted with the continued failure and injuries with this team.. I'm really considering finding something else to do with my Sundays rather than suffer with the bullshit that just hangs around this teams neck like an albatross... Since Art took it away... It hasn't been anything remotely like the Cleveland Browns pre-expansion version... We have crap ownership that just decided to take tail gaiting away (at new venue)... A GM who can't draft football players to save his soul and a baseball dude who lives and dies by his laptop... Something has to give man...

    But if you didn’t watch the Browns we would all miss out on your highly intelligent thoughts. 
     

    @dutch-oven said:

    But if you didn’t watch the Browns we would all miss out on your highly intelligent thoughts. 
     

    agree with Dutch as I was thinking the same thing. why did they waste a 3rd on Dillon ?

  • They could slide Newsome from the slot back to outside, but then we need someone at the nickel role. Either way, I think a signing is incoming.

    If he was healthy, Asante Samuel Jr. would be the guy I would want. I'm reading conflicting reports on his health. They could sign someone like Stephon Gilmore to a one year deal. 

    https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/cleveland-browns/news/browns-could-be-eyeing-former-defensive-player-year-martin-emerson-jr-replacement-stephon-gilmore-nfl/220280c728d6aebfb1524332

  • Brownies are in nickel and big nickel the bulk of the time.  I wonder how much of this is solved by having Damontae Kazee or Delpit as the nickel DB and playing more 2 deep zones behind it. 

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    @dutch-oven said:

    But if you didn’t watch the Browns we would all miss out on your highly intelligent thoughts. 
     

    agree with Dutch as I was thinking the same thing. why did they waste a 3rd on Dillon ?

    @syd said:

    agree with Dutch as I was thinking the same thing. why did they waste a 3rd on Dillon 

    Dillon is worth a pick - but a day 3 one.  Early assessment is not great in terms of draft capital spent. 

  • @syd said:

    agree with Dutch as I was thinking the same thing. why did they waste a 3rd on Dillon 

    Dillon is worth a pick - but a day 3 one.  Early assessment is not great in terms of draft capital spent. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Dillon is worth a pick - but a day 3 one.  Early assessment is not great in terms of draft capital spent. 

    And I heard/read someone from the Browns said something along the lines of: 

    "We grabbed Dillon in the 3rd because it was apparent he wasn't going to last much longer"

    Then let another team make the stupid move, dipshits.