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  • @flugel said:

    The Browns traded up to get Mike Phipps at #3 overall in 1970; but when they drafted Brian Sipe in the 13th round in 1972 - should they have just kept telling Sipe "yeah but you've never been the plan man."  They could have but a lot of us were ecstatic they didn't. It'll be interesting.  Like Drew Brees (it took him 3 years of growing pains before Pro Bowl #1 the year rookie QB Philip Rivers held out), I think Gabriel will take longer to develop.  If Sanders heats up - they gotta go with the better guy.

    The Browns are gonna have to settle on a QB sooner rather than later and quit dicking around with the patience of the fan base.. Especially since they are basically ripping the fans off for the new Taj Mahal they wont be able to tailgate at..

    @nickers said:

    The Browns are gonna have to settle on a QB sooner rather than later and quit dicking around with the patience of the fan base.. Especially since they are basically ripping the fans off for the new Taj Mahal they wont be able to tailgate at..

    As you know, I'm not exactly patient. I'd do it the way the Browns did it with Danielson and Kosar but not even that long. I'd start Flacco for 3 weeks with a short leash.  We gotta go Glad-he-ater mentality with this. Play well and live another series or week as the starter.  The same goes for Sanders.  If he's not sharp, put the step-stool QB out there.  

  • @flugel said:

    The Browns traded up to get Mike Phipps at #3 overall in 1970; but when they drafted Brian Sipe in the 13th round in 1972 - should they have just kept telling Sipe "yeah but you've never been the plan man."  They could have but a lot of us were ecstatic they didn't. It'll be interesting.  Like Drew Brees (it took him 3 years of growing pains before Pro Bowl #1 the year rookie QB Philip Rivers held out), I think Gabriel will take longer to develop.  If Sanders heats up - they gotta go with the better guy.

    The Browns are gonna have to settle on a QB sooner rather than later and quit dicking around with the patience of the fan base.. Especially since they are basically ripping the fans off for the new Taj Mahal they wont be able to tailgate at..

    @nickers said:

    The Browns are gonna have to settle on a QB sooner rather than later and quit dicking around with the patience of the fan base.. Especially since they are basically ripping the fans off for the new Taj Mahal they wont be able to tailgate at..

    Refresh my memory: when was the last time that top brass showed they cared about the fan base?

  • @nickers said:

    The Browns are gonna have to settle on a QB sooner rather than later and quit dicking around with the patience of the fan base.. Especially since they are basically ripping the fans off for the new Taj Mahal they wont be able to tailgate at..

    Refresh my memory: when was the last time that top brass showed they cared about the fan base?

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Refresh my memory: when was the last time that top brass showed they cared about the fan base?

    By raising prices $21/ticket after a 3-14 season?

  • @nickers said:

    The Browns are gonna have to settle on a QB sooner rather than later and quit dicking around with the patience of the fan base.. Especially since they are basically ripping the fans off for the new Taj Mahal they wont be able to tailgate at..

    Refresh my memory: when was the last time that top brass showed they cared about the fan base?

    @korsou-dawg said:

    Refresh my memory: when was the last time that top brass showed they cared about the fan base?

    When they got rid of those ugly uniforms that they came up with.

  • @syd said:

    Shedeur Sanders becomes latest Browns QB to suffer injury setback amidst camp battle

    Tough break.  He needs to be out there practicing and playing every chance he can get.  

    I read where his Dad, the defensive player, tweeted out to his son to, basically, not listen to coaching.  Hold the ball.  Get rid of the ball.  Do what you do.  No reason to change anything for the NFL.  

  • @korsou-dawg said:

    Refresh my memory: when was the last time that top brass showed they cared about the fan base?

    When they got rid of those ugly uniforms that they came up with.

    @orion said:

    When they got rid of those ugly uniforms that they came up with.

    That's like shitting yourself, and claiming cleaning yourself after is an achievement ?

  • @syd said:

    Shedeur Sanders becomes latest Browns QB to suffer injury setback amidst camp battle

    Tough break.  He needs to be out there practicing and playing every chance he can get.  

    I read where his Dad, the defensive player, tweeted out to his son to, basically, not listen to coaching.  Hold the ball.  Get rid of the ball.  Do what you do.  No reason to change anything for the NFL.  

    @orion said:

    Tough break.  He needs to be out there practicing and playing every chance he can get.  

    I read where his Dad, the defensive player, tweeted out to his son to, basically, not listen to coaching.  Hold the ball.  Get rid of the ball.  Do what you do.  No reason to change anything for the NFL.  

    If his daddy is going to meddle.. We may as well trade his ass... I like Shadeurs general personality.. He's great with the kids... But somehow... It just feels like its going to go all wrong..

  • @syd said:

    Shedeur Sanders becomes latest Browns QB to suffer injury setback amidst camp battle

    Tough break.  He needs to be out there practicing and playing every chance he can get.  

    I read where his Dad, the defensive player, tweeted out to his son to, basically, not listen to coaching.  Hold the ball.  Get rid of the ball.  Do what you do.  No reason to change anything for the NFL.  

    @orion said:

    I read where his Dad, the defensive player, tweeted out to his son to, basically, not listen to coaching.  Hold the ball.  Get rid of the ball.  Do what you do.  No reason to change anything for the NFL.  

    He didn’t 

  • So, now we've gotten to see our 2 draft pick QB's play a half of football.  The OLine might have played slightly better for Gabriel than with Sanders.  Perhaps that's a sign of progress.

    IMO, it's almost a dead heat between the two.  I say almost because Gabriel showed that he gets the ball out quickly, much like what was said about him post draft.  And since that's what Stef likes & wants so badly, he's gonna be ahead of Sanders on Stef's scorecard.

    In Gabriel & Sanders we have polar opposites.  One's a football midget, and the other has football height.  One's right handed and the other is a lefty.  One has worked on his celebration moves...and i'll bet Gabriel wouldn't be doing that stuff ( more like the Browns of old, but then, we haven't seen him throw a TD pass yet ).  -  I'm reminded of a little story from Sanders,  Yeah, I asked him what he does for fun.  He said, Football.  So I said, No, like, what hobbies do you have?  He said, Football.   🙂  POLAR Opposites.  Sanders likes to have fun, joke and make light of stuff.  However, everyone has said that he is one of the hard workers on the team, in meetings and on the field.

    Both of them had very good numbers last season and I think that they each did a good job in showing that those numbers aren't a fluke.  So far it's been pretty cool watching them duke it out.  Although I like taller QB's, I wish them both luck in equal parts.  

  • So,  THIS WEEK, Stef will announce who (Flacco) will be the starting QB.  There's 3 practices this week, then Saturday's Rams game.  Then roster cuts.  Then signings of cut players along with roster cuts.  

  • So,  THIS WEEK, Stef will announce who (Flacco) will be the starting QB.  There's 3 practices this week, then Saturday's Rams game.  Then roster cuts.  Then signings of cut players along with roster cuts.  

    @orion said:

    So,  THIS WEEK, Stef will announce who (Flacco) will be the starting QB.  There's 3 practices this week, then Saturday's Rams game.  Then roster cuts.  Then signings of cut players along with roster cuts.  

    Depo's already in an orgasmic state of being just anticipating all the fun.?EDIT: As I was typing apparently a youtube was posted saying Flacco is the starter.

  • @orion said:

    So,  THIS WEEK, Stef will announce who (Flacco) will be the starting QB.  There's 3 practices this week, then Saturday's Rams game.  Then roster cuts.  Then signings of cut players along with roster cuts.  

    Depo's already in an orgasmic state of being just anticipating all the fun.?EDIT: As I was typing apparently a youtube was posted saying Flacco is the starter.

    @texasag1969 said:

    As I was typing apparently a youtube was posted saying Flacco is the starter.

    There was some chance that it might've been Pickett to be the starter.  But once he got hurt and was 'down' for so long, that chance evaporated away.  

    Hopefully the starters get some playing time against the Rams so they can be ready for the Bengals at home....because we MUST at least split the games against our divisional rivals.

  •  - QB school

  •  - QB school

    @unsympathetic said:

     - QB school

    That play at 2 minutes 3 seconds into the video was epic pass pro blunder by RG Zak Zinter.  YES, he had a man lined up on his outside shoulder but when the Center had a DT lined up on his Left Shoulder - Zinter actually moved to his right at the snap which opened the Guard-Center gap even wider for the LBer (already telegraphing blitz). In that case, Zinter should have sealed off his inside with his feet/body (keeping in mind he still had his Right Arm free to assist the RT) understanding the pre-snap leverage on the Center was already threatening to widen the gap between Zinter and Wypler even further.  Having said that, I didn't see him repeat that same mistake in the portion of the video I watched.  

    Pre-season is just as important for shaking off mental rust.  I doubt Zinter is a dumb football player when his national championship teammates voted him a team captain.  Then again, I'm not always the brightest apple in the orchard.

  • @unsympathetic said:

     - QB school

    That play at 2 minutes 3 seconds into the video was epic pass pro blunder by RG Zak Zinter.  YES, he had a man lined up on his outside shoulder but when the Center had a DT lined up on his Left Shoulder - Zinter actually moved to his right at the snap which opened the Guard-Center gap even wider for the LBer (already telegraphing blitz). In that case, Zinter should have sealed off his inside with his feet/body (keeping in mind he still had his Right Arm free to assist the RT) understanding the pre-snap leverage on the Center was already threatening to widen the gap between Zinter and Wypler even further.  Having said that, I didn't see him repeat that same mistake in the portion of the video I watched.  

    Pre-season is just as important for shaking off mental rust.  I doubt Zinter is a dumb football player when his national championship teammates voted him a team captain.  Then again, I'm not always the brightest apple in the orchard.

    @flugel said:

    at 2 minutes 3 seconds into the video was epic pass pro blunder by RG Zak Zinter. 

    Yeah...I've noticed that, so far, IMO, he shouldn't be out on the field when we're playing live games.

  • @flugel said:

    at 2 minutes 3 seconds into the video was epic pass pro blunder by RG Zak Zinter. 

    Yeah...I've noticed that, so far, IMO, he shouldn't be out on the field when we're playing live games.

    @orion said:

    Yeah...I've noticed that, so far, IMO, he shouldn't be out on the field when we're playing live games.

    I think there’s a real chance he doesn’t make the team 

  • @orion said:

    Yeah...I've noticed that, so far, IMO, he shouldn't be out on the field when we're playing live games.

    I think there’s a real chance he doesn’t make the team 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I think there’s a real chance he doesn’t make the team 

    Nah....you know their ego regarding draft pick players.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I think there’s a real chance he doesn’t make the team 

    Nah....you know their ego regarding draft pick players.

    @orion said:

    Nah....you know their ego regarding draft pick players.

    I literally was thinking that when I wrote it... 

    "Well Dutch Anthony Schwartz made it through three seasons here..."

  • @flugel said:

    The Browns traded up to get Mike Phipps at #3 overall in 1970; but when they drafted Brian Sipe in the 13th round in 1972 - should they have just kept telling Sipe "yeah but you've never been the plan man."  They could have but a lot of us were ecstatic they didn't. It'll be interesting.  Like Drew Brees (it took him 3 years of growing pains before Pro Bowl #1 the year rookie QB Philip Rivers held out), I think Gabriel will take longer to develop.  If Sanders heats up - they gotta go with the better guy.

    The Browns are gonna have to settle on a QB sooner rather than later and quit dicking around with the patience of the fan base.. Especially since they are basically ripping the fans off for the new Taj Mahal they wont be able to tailgate at..

    @nickers said:

    The Browns are gonna have to settle on a QB sooner rather than later and quit dicking around with the patience of the fan base.. Especially since they are basically ripping the fans off for the new Taj Mahal they wont be able to tailgate at..

    There's 1 unpredictable factor in all this.  Who's going to have longer early on growing pains?  Steve Young got chased out of Tampa Bay by a media that caught Bill Walsh's attention in SF. Steve Young is a HOF QB today. 

    Buffalo had a plan for Josh Allen so they were actually ready to see growing pains they knew they could coach him out of rather than knee-jerk to a lesser talented guy that hopes to be a career  back-up at best.  Some young QBs get it immediately - others take longer.  That ain't new! It is the problem this time of year; especially on a team divvying up reps between 4 QBs.  I'd say 5 QBs ; but Pickett's pulled muscle has Huntley getting his reps for now. While I don't think (maybe just wishfully) Sanders is as bad as his performance was yesterday - that means I also need to acknowledge he isn't as good as his 1st performance was.  What I mean is if he gets decent protection and there's a solid running game prong in the balance - I've seen him play well.  

    We've only seen both rookies twice.  I've said it before and I'll say it again - I want them both to do well.  My guess is if our FO wants to prove their plan is right especially after they played a big role in giving up everything for Watson - they were very happy our fans got to see what they saw yesterday.  As someone once reminded us - their plan is Gabriel; but you might have to fact check me on the "once" thing...