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  • Dutch Oven Dutch OvenD Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    To the Las Vegas Raiders for a 5th round pick 

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      jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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      All added up, that’s for sure. As I said a few times , keeping four active roster QBs would have been bordering on lunacy. I’m guessing all the 4 QB chatter was just a bluff and it worked out almost exactly net neutral in the end.

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        Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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        It would have been interesting to see how the Quarterback situation would have played out if Pickett hadn’t injured his hamstring 

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          To the Las Vegas Raiders for a 5th round pick 

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          @dutch-oven said:

          To the Las Vegas Raiders for a 5th round pick 

          They just signed Amari Cooper too

          I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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            @dutch-oven said:

            To the Las Vegas Raiders for a 5th round pick 

            They just signed Amari Cooper too

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            Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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            @flugel said:

            They just signed Amari Cooper too

            I wonder how much tread he has left on the proverbial tires. 

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              It would have been interesting to see how the Quarterback situation would have played out if Pickett hadn’t injured his hamstring 

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              @dutch-oven said:

              It would have been interesting to see how the Quarterback situation would have played out if Pickett hadn’t injured his hamstring 

              With either Pickett or Flacco as the week 1 starter, and the other traded.

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                @flugel said:

                They just signed Amari Cooper too

                I wonder how much tread he has left on the proverbial tires. 

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                @dutch-oven said:

                I wonder how much tread he has left on the proverbial tires. 

                Not sure. He just couldn't ever get healthy last year - re-aggravating not fully healed injuries.  He probably never needed a full off-season like he just had so I bet he bounces back this year.  After that, who knows?

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                  @dutch-oven said:

                  It would have been interesting to see how the Quarterback situation would have played out if Pickett hadn’t injured his hamstring 

                  With either Pickett or Flacco as the week 1 starter, and the other traded.

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                  Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                  @reality said:

                  With either Pickett or Flacco as the week 1 starter, and the other traded.

                  There were a lot of people who followed the Browns who really thought Pickett was going to win that battle.

                  I'm cool they ended up with Joe. 

                  IMO the QB who leads the Browns into Brookpark is playing college ball this fall. 

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                    It would have been interesting to see how the Quarterback situation would have played out if Pickett hadn’t injured his hamstring 

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                    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                    @dutch-oven said:

                    It would have been interesting to see how the Quarterback situation would have played out if Pickett hadn’t injured his hamstring 

                    I hear ya!  I thought and still think he's gonna be a good NFL QB.  Not to scare you though - I said the same thing about Shedeur Sanders a LONG time ago. Okay, just a week or 2 ago...

                    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                      @dutch-oven said:

                      I wonder how much tread he has left on the proverbial tires. 

                      Not sure. He just couldn't ever get healthy last year - re-aggravating not fully healed injuries.  He probably never needed a full off-season like he just had so I bet he bounces back this year.  After that, who knows?

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                      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                      @flugel said:

                      Not sure. He just couldn't ever get healthy last year - re-aggravating not fully healed injuries.  He probably never needed a full off-season like he just had so I bet he bounces back this year.  After that, who knows?

                      I wouldn't have been upset if the Browns would have signed him. 

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                        @dutch-oven said:

                        It would have been interesting to see how the Quarterback situation would have played out if Pickett hadn’t injured his hamstring 

                        I hear ya!  I thought and still think he's gonna be a good NFL QB.  Not to scare you though - I said the same thing about Shedeur Sanders a LONG time ago. Okay, just a week or 2 ago...

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                        @flugel said:

                        I hear ya!  I thought and still think he's gonna be a good NFL QB.  Not to scare you though - I said the same thing about Shedeur Sanders a LONG time ago. Okay, just a week or 2 ago...

                        The best thing for Sanders is for him to be the #3 guy and slowly acclimate himself to the NFL. 

                        There's positive things with him, but he's definitely a work in progress. Let him work on his game without people trying to rush him before he's ready. 

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                          With either Pickett or Flacco as the week 1 starter, and the other traded.

                          There were a lot of people who followed the Browns who really thought Pickett was going to win that battle.

                          I'm cool they ended up with Joe. 

                          IMO the QB who leads the Browns into Brookpark is playing college ball this fall. 

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                          @dutch-oven said:

                          There were a lot of people who followed the Browns who really thought Pickett was going to win that battle.

                          I'm cool they ended up with Joe. 

                          IMO the QB who leads the Browns into Brookpark is playing college ball this fall. 

                          It was always possible Pickett could have beat out Flacco.  Then Flacco is who got moved.  Any time I read about Pickett winning the starter job, it usually was not based on actual play.  Until he showed otherwise (which his injury prevented the opportunity to do so), his film said Flacco still better.

                          Once CLE drafted Gabriel +Sanders it was pretty evident Flacco or Pickett would be the odd man out via trade.  Excluding if Gabriel/Sanders completely bombed in camp and preseason 

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                            IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                            So long Kenny, we barely knew ya.

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                              @dutch-oven said:

                              There were a lot of people who followed the Browns who really thought Pickett was going to win that battle.

                              I'm cool they ended up with Joe. 

                              IMO the QB who leads the Browns into Brookpark is playing college ball this fall. 

                              It was always possible Pickett could have beat out Flacco.  Then Flacco is who got moved.  Any time I read about Pickett winning the starter job, it usually was not based on actual play.  Until he showed otherwise (which his injury prevented the opportunity to do so), his film said Flacco still better.

                              Once CLE drafted Gabriel +Sanders it was pretty evident Flacco or Pickett would be the odd man out via trade.  Excluding if Gabriel/Sanders completely bombed in camp and preseason 

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                              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
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                              @reality said:

                              It was always possible Pickett could have beat out Flacco.  Then Flacco is who got moved.  Any time I read about Pickett winning the starter job, it usually was not based on actual play.  Until he showed otherwise (which his injury prevented the opportunity to do so), his film said Flacco still better.

                              What I heard about Pickett possibly winning the starting job was the idea that Stefanski liked that he didn't turn the ball over much (he also didn't throw touchdowns either) and that the Browns liked his athleticism. 

                              But then he got injured and wasn't able to show them on the field wearing the orange and brown that he was the better option than Flacco, so we get what happened tonight. 

                              I'll be honest, it would have been hilarious to see him start this season and have a better season than Aaron Rodgers. Steelers fans' heads would have exploded. ?

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                                @flugel said:

                                I hear ya!  I thought and still think he's gonna be a good NFL QB.  Not to scare you though - I said the same thing about Shedeur Sanders a LONG time ago. Okay, just a week or 2 ago...

                                The best thing for Sanders is for him to be the #3 guy and slowly acclimate himself to the NFL. 

                                There's positive things with him, but he's definitely a work in progress. Let him work on his game without people trying to rush him before he's ready. 

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                                FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                                @dutch-oven said:

                                The best thing for Sanders is for him to be the #3 guy and slowly acclimate himself to the NFL. 

                                There's positive things with him, but he's definitely a work in progress. Let him work on his game without people trying to rush him before he's ready. 

                                Believe it or not, he had an OC at Colorado that had success in the NFL as an OC (not to be confused his HC gig in Cleveland) - Pat Shurmur.  They also had a guy on their offensive staff that Dick Vermeil once said had one of the highest football IQs he ever coached (Marshall Faulk).  What I'm getting at here is he was learning from NFL guys.  However, what is unfolding is the big question - is he capable of breaking bad habits like the pocket panic retreats backwards?  

                                In the back of my head, I was thinking the Browns were getting tempted to trade Shedeur to Dallas until I saw how good Joe Milton looked in his last outing.

                                I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                                  @dutch-oven said:

                                  The best thing for Sanders is for him to be the #3 guy and slowly acclimate himself to the NFL. 

                                  There's positive things with him, but he's definitely a work in progress. Let him work on his game without people trying to rush him before he's ready. 

                                  Believe it or not, he had an OC at Colorado that had success in the NFL as an OC (not to be confused his HC gig in Cleveland) - Pat Shurmur.  They also had a guy on their offensive staff that Dick Vermeil once said had one of the highest football IQs he ever coached (Marshall Faulk).  What I'm getting at here is he was learning from NFL guys.  However, what is unfolding is the big question - is he capable of breaking bad habits like the pocket panic retreats backwards?  

                                  In the back of my head, I was thinking the Browns were getting tempted to trade Shedeur to Dallas until I saw how good Joe Milton looked in his last outing.

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                                  Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                  @flugel said:

                                  Believe it or not, he had an OC at Colorado that had success in the NFL as an OC (not to be confused his HC gig in Cleveland) - Pat Shurmur.  They also had a guy on their offensive staff that Dick Vermeil once said had one of the highest football IQs he ever coached (Marshall Faulk).  What I'm getting at here is he was learning from NFL guys.  However, what is unfolding is the big question - is he capable of breaking bad habits like the pocket panic retreats backwards?  

                                  In the back of my head, I was thinking the Browns were getting tempted to trade Shedeur to Dallas until I saw how good Joe Milton looked in his last outing.

                                  Playing behind a horrible OLine at Colorado probably hardwired those bad habits. 

                                  And there's a big difference between how complicated and in-depth a NFL coach is in college vs the pros. I would bet Matt Patricia's defense this year at Ohio State will be a somewhat simpler version of what he ran in New England. 

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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    To the Las Vegas Raiders for a 5th round pick 

                                    They just signed Amari Cooper too

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                                    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                    @flugel said:

                                    They just signed Amari Cooper too

                                    Who is "they" ?

                                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                      @flugel said:

                                      Believe it or not, he had an OC at Colorado that had success in the NFL as an OC (not to be confused his HC gig in Cleveland) - Pat Shurmur.  They also had a guy on their offensive staff that Dick Vermeil once said had one of the highest football IQs he ever coached (Marshall Faulk).  What I'm getting at here is he was learning from NFL guys.  However, what is unfolding is the big question - is he capable of breaking bad habits like the pocket panic retreats backwards?  

                                      In the back of my head, I was thinking the Browns were getting tempted to trade Shedeur to Dallas until I saw how good Joe Milton looked in his last outing.

                                      Playing behind a horrible OLine at Colorado probably hardwired those bad habits. 

                                      And there's a big difference between how complicated and in-depth a NFL coach is in college vs the pros. I would bet Matt Patricia's defense this year at Ohio State will be a somewhat simpler version of what he ran in New England. 

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                                      FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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                                      @dutch-oven said:

                                      Playing behind a horrible OLine at Colorado probably hardwired those bad habits. 

                                      And there's a big difference between how complicated and in-depth a NFL coach is in college vs the pros. I would bet Matt Patricia's defense this year at Ohio State will be a somewhat simpler version of what he ran in New England. 

                                      All true. Not to change the subject but when you do your questions for us this year - can you break out some of that epic smartass I saw from you back when you first started encountering Ghoolie in here?  I can't tell you how many times I hit the deck LMAO!  Come to think of it - it was still pretty freakin funny the last few times you encountered him.  Let's borrow some of that when you kick us off into our predictions.  

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                                        @flugel said:

                                        They just signed Amari Cooper too

                                        Who is "they" ?

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                                        Who is "they" ?

                                        The Raiders.  

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                                          Wasn’t a fan and shocked we got a 5th round pick for him.  Great deal. 

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