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  • R Reality

    @dutch-oven said:

    It would have been interesting to see how the Quarterback situation would have played out if Pickett hadn’t injured his hamstring 

    With either Pickett or Flacco as the week 1 starter, and the other traded.

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    @reality said:

    With either Pickett or Flacco as the week 1 starter, and the other traded.

    There were a lot of people who followed the Browns who really thought Pickett was going to win that battle.

    I'm cool they ended up with Joe. 

    IMO the QB who leads the Browns into Brookpark is playing college ball this fall. 

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      It would have been interesting to see how the Quarterback situation would have played out if Pickett hadn’t injured his hamstring 

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      @dutch-oven said:

      It would have been interesting to see how the Quarterback situation would have played out if Pickett hadn’t injured his hamstring 

      I hear ya!  I thought and still think he's gonna be a good NFL QB.  Not to scare you though - I said the same thing about Shedeur Sanders a LONG time ago. Okay, just a week or 2 ago...

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        @dutch-oven said:

        I wonder how much tread he has left on the proverbial tires. 

        Not sure. He just couldn't ever get healthy last year - re-aggravating not fully healed injuries.  He probably never needed a full off-season like he just had so I bet he bounces back this year.  After that, who knows?

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        @flugel said:

        Not sure. He just couldn't ever get healthy last year - re-aggravating not fully healed injuries.  He probably never needed a full off-season like he just had so I bet he bounces back this year.  After that, who knows?

        I wouldn't have been upset if the Browns would have signed him. 

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          @dutch-oven said:

          It would have been interesting to see how the Quarterback situation would have played out if Pickett hadn’t injured his hamstring 

          I hear ya!  I thought and still think he's gonna be a good NFL QB.  Not to scare you though - I said the same thing about Shedeur Sanders a LONG time ago. Okay, just a week or 2 ago...

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          @flugel said:

          I hear ya!  I thought and still think he's gonna be a good NFL QB.  Not to scare you though - I said the same thing about Shedeur Sanders a LONG time ago. Okay, just a week or 2 ago...

          The best thing for Sanders is for him to be the #3 guy and slowly acclimate himself to the NFL. 

          There's positive things with him, but he's definitely a work in progress. Let him work on his game without people trying to rush him before he's ready. 

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            @reality said:

            With either Pickett or Flacco as the week 1 starter, and the other traded.

            There were a lot of people who followed the Browns who really thought Pickett was going to win that battle.

            I'm cool they ended up with Joe. 

            IMO the QB who leads the Browns into Brookpark is playing college ball this fall. 

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            @dutch-oven said:

            There were a lot of people who followed the Browns who really thought Pickett was going to win that battle.

            I'm cool they ended up with Joe. 

            IMO the QB who leads the Browns into Brookpark is playing college ball this fall. 

            It was always possible Pickett could have beat out Flacco.  Then Flacco is who got moved.  Any time I read about Pickett winning the starter job, it usually was not based on actual play.  Until he showed otherwise (which his injury prevented the opportunity to do so), his film said Flacco still better.

            Once CLE drafted Gabriel +Sanders it was pretty evident Flacco or Pickett would be the odd man out via trade.  Excluding if Gabriel/Sanders completely bombed in camp and preseason 

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              So long Kenny, we barely knew ya.

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                @dutch-oven said:

                There were a lot of people who followed the Browns who really thought Pickett was going to win that battle.

                I'm cool they ended up with Joe. 

                IMO the QB who leads the Browns into Brookpark is playing college ball this fall. 

                It was always possible Pickett could have beat out Flacco.  Then Flacco is who got moved.  Any time I read about Pickett winning the starter job, it usually was not based on actual play.  Until he showed otherwise (which his injury prevented the opportunity to do so), his film said Flacco still better.

                Once CLE drafted Gabriel +Sanders it was pretty evident Flacco or Pickett would be the odd man out via trade.  Excluding if Gabriel/Sanders completely bombed in camp and preseason 

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                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
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                @reality said:

                It was always possible Pickett could have beat out Flacco.  Then Flacco is who got moved.  Any time I read about Pickett winning the starter job, it usually was not based on actual play.  Until he showed otherwise (which his injury prevented the opportunity to do so), his film said Flacco still better.

                What I heard about Pickett possibly winning the starting job was the idea that Stefanski liked that he didn't turn the ball over much (he also didn't throw touchdowns either) and that the Browns liked his athleticism. 

                But then he got injured and wasn't able to show them on the field wearing the orange and brown that he was the better option than Flacco, so we get what happened tonight. 

                I'll be honest, it would have been hilarious to see him start this season and have a better season than Aaron Rodgers. Steelers fans' heads would have exploded. ?

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                  @flugel said:

                  I hear ya!  I thought and still think he's gonna be a good NFL QB.  Not to scare you though - I said the same thing about Shedeur Sanders a LONG time ago. Okay, just a week or 2 ago...

                  The best thing for Sanders is for him to be the #3 guy and slowly acclimate himself to the NFL. 

                  There's positive things with him, but he's definitely a work in progress. Let him work on his game without people trying to rush him before he's ready. 

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                  @dutch-oven said:

                  The best thing for Sanders is for him to be the #3 guy and slowly acclimate himself to the NFL. 

                  There's positive things with him, but he's definitely a work in progress. Let him work on his game without people trying to rush him before he's ready. 

                  Believe it or not, he had an OC at Colorado that had success in the NFL as an OC (not to be confused his HC gig in Cleveland) - Pat Shurmur.  They also had a guy on their offensive staff that Dick Vermeil once said had one of the highest football IQs he ever coached (Marshall Faulk).  What I'm getting at here is he was learning from NFL guys.  However, what is unfolding is the big question - is he capable of breaking bad habits like the pocket panic retreats backwards?  

                  In the back of my head, I was thinking the Browns were getting tempted to trade Shedeur to Dallas until I saw how good Joe Milton looked in his last outing.

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                    @dutch-oven said:

                    The best thing for Sanders is for him to be the #3 guy and slowly acclimate himself to the NFL. 

                    There's positive things with him, but he's definitely a work in progress. Let him work on his game without people trying to rush him before he's ready. 

                    Believe it or not, he had an OC at Colorado that had success in the NFL as an OC (not to be confused his HC gig in Cleveland) - Pat Shurmur.  They also had a guy on their offensive staff that Dick Vermeil once said had one of the highest football IQs he ever coached (Marshall Faulk).  What I'm getting at here is he was learning from NFL guys.  However, what is unfolding is the big question - is he capable of breaking bad habits like the pocket panic retreats backwards?  

                    In the back of my head, I was thinking the Browns were getting tempted to trade Shedeur to Dallas until I saw how good Joe Milton looked in his last outing.

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                    @flugel said:

                    Believe it or not, he had an OC at Colorado that had success in the NFL as an OC (not to be confused his HC gig in Cleveland) - Pat Shurmur.  They also had a guy on their offensive staff that Dick Vermeil once said had one of the highest football IQs he ever coached (Marshall Faulk).  What I'm getting at here is he was learning from NFL guys.  However, what is unfolding is the big question - is he capable of breaking bad habits like the pocket panic retreats backwards?  

                    In the back of my head, I was thinking the Browns were getting tempted to trade Shedeur to Dallas until I saw how good Joe Milton looked in his last outing.

                    Playing behind a horrible OLine at Colorado probably hardwired those bad habits. 

                    And there's a big difference between how complicated and in-depth a NFL coach is in college vs the pros. I would bet Matt Patricia's defense this year at Ohio State will be a somewhat simpler version of what he ran in New England. 

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                      @dutch-oven said:

                      To the Las Vegas Raiders for a 5th round pick 

                      They just signed Amari Cooper too

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                      @flugel said:

                      They just signed Amari Cooper too

                      Who is "they" ?

                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                        @flugel said:

                        Believe it or not, he had an OC at Colorado that had success in the NFL as an OC (not to be confused his HC gig in Cleveland) - Pat Shurmur.  They also had a guy on their offensive staff that Dick Vermeil once said had one of the highest football IQs he ever coached (Marshall Faulk).  What I'm getting at here is he was learning from NFL guys.  However, what is unfolding is the big question - is he capable of breaking bad habits like the pocket panic retreats backwards?  

                        In the back of my head, I was thinking the Browns were getting tempted to trade Shedeur to Dallas until I saw how good Joe Milton looked in his last outing.

                        Playing behind a horrible OLine at Colorado probably hardwired those bad habits. 

                        And there's a big difference between how complicated and in-depth a NFL coach is in college vs the pros. I would bet Matt Patricia's defense this year at Ohio State will be a somewhat simpler version of what he ran in New England. 

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                        FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
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                        @dutch-oven said:

                        Playing behind a horrible OLine at Colorado probably hardwired those bad habits. 

                        And there's a big difference between how complicated and in-depth a NFL coach is in college vs the pros. I would bet Matt Patricia's defense this year at Ohio State will be a somewhat simpler version of what he ran in New England. 

                        All true. Not to change the subject but when you do your questions for us this year - can you break out some of that epic smartass I saw from you back when you first started encountering Ghoolie in here?  I can't tell you how many times I hit the deck LMAO!  Come to think of it - it was still pretty freakin funny the last few times you encountered him.  Let's borrow some of that when you kick us off into our predictions.  

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                          @flugel said:

                          They just signed Amari Cooper too

                          Who is "they" ?

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                          @ballpeen said:

                          Who is "they" ?

                          The Raiders.  

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                            Wasn’t a fan and shocked we got a 5th round pick for him.  Great deal. 

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                              @reality said:

                              With either Pickett or Flacco as the week 1 starter, and the other traded.

                              There were a lot of people who followed the Browns who really thought Pickett was going to win that battle.

                              I'm cool they ended up with Joe. 

                              IMO the QB who leads the Browns into Brookpark is playing college ball this fall. 

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                              FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                              @dutch-oven said:

                              There were a lot of people who followed the Browns who really thought Pickett was going to win that battle.

                              I'm cool they ended up with Joe. 

                              IMO the QB who leads the Browns into Brookpark is playing college ball this fall. 

                              You might be right.  I also think the Browns will be responsible for keeping Arch Manning in college football for the 2026 season. There's no way on earth a smart football family like the Mannings wants Jimmy Haslam drafting Arch no matter how good he was to Peyton at UT.

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                                Wasn’t a fan and shocked we got a 5th round pick for him.  Great deal. 

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                                @sdbacker80 said:

                                Wasn’t a fan and shocked we got a 5th round pick for him.  Great deal. 

                                Not so fast my friend. We got him for a 5th rounder to Philly in 2025 draft and QB DT-R (since been waived 2 days ago). 

                                So all we really did was get back a 5th rounder the year after we gave up a 5th rounder + 1.

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                                  OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                                  Flacco was available before, during and after they traded for Pickett very early in '25.  They didn't sign Flacco until well after getting Pickett.  I firmly believe that their plan was to start Pickett and hope that he turned out to be pretty good.  They were going to draft somebody like Gabriel as a developmental backup QB to next year's draft pick.  But two things happened.  Pickett pulled his hammy and was unavailable all preseason.  And Gabriel played well in his preseason opportunities such that they now felt comfortable having him as the backup.

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                                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                    The Eagles released Kyle McCord

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                                      Flacco was available before, during and after they traded for Pickett very early in '25.  They didn't sign Flacco until well after getting Pickett.  I firmly believe that their plan was to start Pickett and hope that he turned out to be pretty good.  They were going to draft somebody like Gabriel as a developmental backup QB to next year's draft pick.  But two things happened.  Pickett pulled his hammy and was unavailable all preseason.  And Gabriel played well in his preseason opportunities such that they now felt comfortable having him as the backup.

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                                      @orion said:

                                      Flacco was available before, during and after they traded for Pickett very early in '25.  They didn't sign Flacco until well after getting Pickett.  I firmly believe that their plan was to start Pickett and hope that he turned out to be pretty good.  They were going to draft somebody like Gabriel as a developmental backup QB to next year's draft pick.  But two things happened.  Pickett pulled his hammy and was unavailable all preseason.  And Gabriel played well in his preseason opportunities such that they now felt comfortable having him as the backup.

                                      Makes sense for sure. A small part of me wanted Pickett to win the job so he could be the QB that helped sweep the dreaded Steelers.

                                      I'm a little concerned about having rookies at #2 & #3, but maybe that's better than some retread veteran like Carson Wentz. 

                                      Go Browns.

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                                        The Eagles released Kyle McCord

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                                        @dutch-oven said:

                                        The Eagles released Kyle McCord

                                        The guy with a throwing motion so flat it's like the Salt Lakes? 

                                        SHOCKED.

                                        RE: Pickett vs Flacco.   Joe might be a better distributor through the air, but he is historically a turnover machine. 

                                         With Kenny, the Browns had a QB who they could sort of bin-down in the passing game, who doesn't turn the ball over, but the trade off was that he had athletic ability you can use in the QB-centric running game. 

                                         Think like a slightly higher level Jacoby Brissett.  Stefanski in the early games would design some runs that unblocked certain defenders, bluff QB read and help offset facing 8 and 9 man fronts. 

                                         Turnovers are killer. So if the trade is having to involve a young, 1 year rental QB in the running game more, the front office was willing to make that trade. 

                                         .... until Kenny got hurt.  Then the rest played out as we're seeing. 

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                                          So long Kenny!,,, Now the next step is getting rid of Watson and his contract next season.. I think Sanders is in a good place.  Now if they can just get the Colorado fans to pipe down.. But based on his last effort.. He's got a lot to clean up... And all of this dancing in the back field needs to end fast or the kid won't be around long...

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