The Official Browns vs Vikings Game 5 Thread
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At that point time left on the clock wasn't going to be the issue of the Vikings scoring a fg or a td. They were already in range, so Stefanski was calling timeouts to try and preserve time to have a chance to score before regulation.
I disagree, the Vikings only had one TO left. If Kevin would’ve saved the TO’s the pressure would be on the Vikings.
Instead, he just snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
I disagree, the Vikings only had one TO left. If Kevin would’ve saved the TO’s the pressure would be on the Vikings.
Instead, he just snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
They were already near the 20 yard line at worst they're attempting what is an extra point to send the game to overtime. If he started calling them at the 50 yard line I would agree with you but they were already in "chip shot" fg range when he started using them and there was 70 seconds left when he started calling them.
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Offensive play calling is just terrible, 3:00 minutes left in the game with a lead and the ball and you can’t close it out ! Well you deserve to lose
Offensive play calling is just terrible, 3:00 minutes left in the game with a lead and the ball and you can’t close it out ! Well you deserve to lose
Yeah a play action roll out when they were so geared up to stop the run would have been an easy first down and ran at least 40 more seconds off the clock and made the Vikes burn all 3 of their timeouts.
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I disagree, the Vikings only had one TO left. If Kevin would’ve saved the TO’s the pressure would be on the Vikings.
Instead, he just snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
They were already near the 20 yard line at worst they're attempting what is an extra point to send the game to overtime. If he started calling them at the 50 yard line I would agree with you but they were already in "chip shot" fg range when he started using them and there was 70 seconds left when he started calling them.
They were already near the 20 yard line at worst they're attempting what is an extra point to send the game to overtime. If he started calling them at the 50 yard line I would agree with you but they were already in "chip shot" fg range when he started using them and there was 70 seconds left when he started calling them.
How did that plan work out?
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I disagree, the Vikings only had one TO left. If Kevin would’ve saved the TO’s the pressure would be on the Vikings.
Instead, he just snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
They were already near the 20 yard line at worst they're attempting what is an extra point to send the game to overtime. If he started calling them at the 50 yard line I would agree with you but they were already in "chip shot" fg range when he started using them and there was 70 seconds left when he started calling them.
They were already near the 20 yard line at worst they're attempting what is an extra point to send the game to overtime. If he started calling them at the 50 yard line I would agree with you but they were already in "chip shot" fg range when he started using them and there was 70 seconds left when he started calling them.
I just watched that last minute of the game, the Viking had the ball on the 23 yard line with one minute on the clock when Kevin started burning timeouts.
A chip shot FG sends it into OT, I could live with that.
If they score a TD we still have all 3 timeouts left.
We ended up down 4 points, with 70 yards to go with 21 seconds and no timeouts.Let me know how Kevin’s clock management worked out for us? ?
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
They were already near the 20 yard line at worst they're attempting what is an extra point to send the game to overtime. If he started calling them at the 50 yard line I would agree with you but they were already in "chip shot" fg range when he started using them and there was 70 seconds left when he started calling them.
How did that plan work out?
How did that plan work out?
Obviously not great but it doesn't make it the wrong decision. Let's say on 3rd and 4 from the 17 with 59 seconds left the browns get the stop and force a fg. If Minnesota makes it the browns then have 50 seconds left to get in fg range and it looks like a great decision and then you're praising the timeout usage. If the Vikings didn't have a timeout themselves I would agree the browns shouldn't have called timeouts but the fact is that they had one. I have the same viewpoint regardless of the outcome the timeouts were the right call. He was playing for the win in regulation which I always want my team/coach to do.
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How did that plan work out?
Obviously not great but it doesn't make it the wrong decision. Let's say on 3rd and 4 from the 17 with 59 seconds left the browns get the stop and force a fg. If Minnesota makes it the browns then have 50 seconds left to get in fg range and it looks like a great decision and then you're praising the timeout usage. If the Vikings didn't have a timeout themselves I would agree the browns shouldn't have called timeouts but the fact is that they had one. I have the same viewpoint regardless of the outcome the timeouts were the right call. He was playing for the win in regulation which I always want my team/coach to do.
Obviously not great but it doesn't make it the wrong decision. Let's say on 3rd and 4 from the 17 with 59 seconds left the browns get the stop and force a fg. If Minnesota makes it the browns then have 50 seconds left to get in fg range and it looks like a great decision and then you're praising the timeout usage. If the Vikings didn't have a timeout themselves I would agree the browns shouldn't have called timeouts but the fact is that they had one. I have the same viewpoint regardless of the outcome the timeouts were the right call. He was playing for the win in regulation which I always want my team/coach to do.
I have no problem with burning timeouts, you just don’t start using them with a minute left in the game.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
They were already near the 20 yard line at worst they're attempting what is an extra point to send the game to overtime. If he started calling them at the 50 yard line I would agree with you but they were already in "chip shot" fg range when he started using them and there was 70 seconds left when he started calling them.
I just watched that last minute of the game, the Viking had the ball on the 23 yard line with one minute on the clock when Kevin started burning timeouts.
A chip shot FG sends it into OT, I could live with that.
If they score a TD we still have all 3 timeouts left.
We ended up down 4 points, with 70 yards to go with 21 seconds and no timeouts.Let me know how Kevin’s clock management worked out for us? ?
I just watched that last minute of the game, the Viking had the ball on the 23 yard line with one minute on the clock when Kevin started burning timeouts.
A chip shot FG sends it into OT, I could live with that.
If they score a TD we still have all 3 timeouts left.
We ended up down 4 points, with 70 yards to go with 21 seconds and no timeouts.Let me know how Kevin’s clock management worked out for us? ?
I would rather be in the situation you stated than if they had scored with 3 seconds left and we had all 3 timeouts left
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I disagree, the Vikings only had one TO left. If Kevin would’ve saved the TO’s the pressure would be on the Vikings.
Instead, he just snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
They were already near the 20 yard line at worst they're attempting what is an extra point to send the game to overtime. If he started calling them at the 50 yard line I would agree with you but they were already in "chip shot" fg range when he started using them and there was 70 seconds left when he started calling them.
They were already near the 20 yard line at worst they're attempting what is an extra point to send the game to overtime. If he started calling them at the 50 yard line I would agree with you but they were already in "chip shot" fg range when he started using them and there was 70 seconds left when he started calling them.
Agree Vilma seemed to think with a minute left and 20 yards to go the Vikings needed timeouts.
And then we heard Vilma say at least five times we messed up by not running it a third time because we didn’t run three straight times in a 10 man box which we did the last two drives
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Obviously not great but it doesn't make it the wrong decision. Let's say on 3rd and 4 from the 17 with 59 seconds left the browns get the stop and force a fg. If Minnesota makes it the browns then have 50 seconds left to get in fg range and it looks like a great decision and then you're praising the timeout usage. If the Vikings didn't have a timeout themselves I would agree the browns shouldn't have called timeouts but the fact is that they had one. I have the same viewpoint regardless of the outcome the timeouts were the right call. He was playing for the win in regulation which I always want my team/coach to do.
I have no problem with burning timeouts, you just don’t start using them with a minute left in the game.
I have no problem with burning timeouts, you just don’t start using them with a minute left in the game.
You don't burn them early in the possession because you don't know if they'd get in range. You start burning them when time is no longer a limiting factor on them tying or taking the lead. If we were up 4 I'd bet he wouldn't have spent a single timeout. However since they had the game essentially tied at a minimum you start trying to conserve time for your offense.
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I have no problem with burning timeouts, you just don’t start using them with a minute left in the game.
You don't burn them early in the possession because you don't know if they'd get in range. You start burning them when time is no longer a limiting factor on them tying or taking the lead. If we were up 4 I'd bet he wouldn't have spent a single timeout. However since they had the game essentially tied at a minimum you start trying to conserve time for your offense.
You don't burn them early in the possession because you don't know if they'd get in range. You start burning them when time is no longer a limiting factor on them tying or taking the lead. If we were up 4 I'd bet he wouldn't have spent a single timeout. However since they had the game essentially tied at a minimum you start trying to conserve time for your offense.
Again, burning timeouts with little time left to play is….stupid.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
They were already near the 20 yard line at worst they're attempting what is an extra point to send the game to overtime. If he started calling them at the 50 yard line I would agree with you but they were already in "chip shot" fg range when he started using them and there was 70 seconds left when he started calling them.
Agree Vilma seemed to think with a minute left and 20 yards to go the Vikings needed timeouts.
And then we heard Vilma say at least five times we messed up by not running it a third time because we didn’t run three straight times in a 10 man box which we did the last two drives
Agree Vilma seemed to think with a minute left and 20 yards to go the Vikings needed timeouts.
And then we heard Vilma say at least five times we messed up by not running it a third time because we didn’t run three straight times in a 10 man box which we did the last two drives
Yeah vilma was atrocious and a very hard listen. Once they got to our 20 yard line with a minute left time remaining no longer became the limiting factor for them scoring. I'm disappointed but like some of the positives we're seeing. I really wanted this one because we have some very winnable games coming up.
Also I really hope Gabriel (or Sanders) is the answer at qb because there certainly doesn't look to be a can't miss qb in this college season as of yet and arch looks like he would be lucky to be a 5th round pick.
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You don't burn them early in the possession because you don't know if they'd get in range. You start burning them when time is no longer a limiting factor on them tying or taking the lead. If we were up 4 I'd bet he wouldn't have spent a single timeout. However since they had the game essentially tied at a minimum you start trying to conserve time for your offense.
Again, burning timeouts with little time left to play is….stupid.
Again, burning timeouts with little time left to play is….stupid.
If on that 3rd and 4 the browns defense held and they kicked a fg then the browns offense went down and kicked a game winning fg because they had time left due to the timeout usage would you say it's still stupid? If not you're not judging the decision you're judging the result.
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Again, burning timeouts with little time left to play is….stupid.
If on that 3rd and 4 the browns defense held and they kicked a fg then the browns offense went down and kicked a game winning fg because they had time left due to the timeout usage would you say it's still stupid? If not you're not judging the decision you're judging the result.
If on that 3rd and 4 the browns defense held and they kicked a fg then the browns offense went down and kicked a game winning fg because they had time left due to the timeout usage would you say it's still stupid? If not you're not judging the decision you're judging the result.
There would still be very little time left, timeouts or not.
The results of the game confirms what I said about Kevin’s clock management.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Wow this offense is offensive...5 games can't score over 20. Shitpanski is terrible...receivers have stone hands...studkins was a bright spot.
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As far as I'm concerned... Shitmypanstki lost this game all by himself.. He couldn't resist the opportunity to shove his own head up his own ass and run the ball up the middle instead of using short passes to the backs to keep the clock moving with just 4 and a 1/2 minutes remainingg.. He could've utilized Sampson and Judkins athleticism... Instead.. He went Marty ball conservative.. Then.. instead taking the ten seconds off... He chose to let them stop the clock and gave Minnesota the game... I hope they fire this dumb cocksucker tomorrow...
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If on that 3rd and 4 the browns defense held and they kicked a fg then the browns offense went down and kicked a game winning fg because they had time left due to the timeout usage would you say it's still stupid? If not you're not judging the decision you're judging the result.
There would still be very little time left, timeouts or not.
The results of the game confirms what I said about Kevin’s clock management.
There would still be very little time left, timeouts or not.
The results of the game confirms what I said about Kevin’s clock management.
There would have been 50 seconds left. Plenty of time to get in field goal range.
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There would still be very little time left, timeouts or not.
The results of the game confirms what I said about Kevin’s clock management.
There would have been 50 seconds left. Plenty of time to get in field goal range.
There would have been 50 seconds left. Plenty of time to get in field goal range.
I’m not talking hypothetically, Kevin stopped the clock 3 times with less than a minute left.
Let me ask you a question, is it easier for an offense to have a timeout between plays?
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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