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  • @nickers said:

    I guess we can start talking about the draft now...  This team is cooked!

    I’ve been talking draft for 2 weeks. This team was done after they beat GB

    @browns149 said:

    I’ve been talking draft for 2 weeks. This team was done after they beat GB

    Thank you!  Guys set your roosters back an hour or a week or 2 if you need to.

  • @nickers said:

    I guess we can start talking about the draft now...  This team is cooked!

    No more QBs that need step stools please....

    @flugel said:

    No more QBs that need step stools please....

    Also, we need a personnel person who ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT A GOOD QB LOOKS LIKE

  • @flugel said:

    No more QBs that need step stools please....

    Also, we need a personnel person who ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT A GOOD QB LOOKS LIKE

    @browns149 said:

    Also, we need a personnel person who ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT A GOOD QB LOOKS LIKE

    Precisely. This FO doesn't just suck - it swallows!  

  • @browns149 said:

    Also, we need a personnel person who ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT A GOOD QB LOOKS LIKE

    Precisely. This FO doesn't just suck - it swallows!  

    @flugel said:

    Precisely. This FO doesn't just suck - it swallows!  

    No, they spit.

  • There can't possibly 1 person on this board excited about where this team is going with Andrew Berry in the driver seat and Paul DePodesta continuing to whisper sweet nothings in Jimmy's ear. It's gonna be all Stefanski's fault before we know it and he'll get scapegoated while the tenures of Berry and DePodesta continue.

    Oh wait, they got rid of Baker though... Yeah they got rid of Baker for Character concerns so their idea for better character was Watson?  Okay, no worries they did it for what his talent did/promised from his time  in Houston.  Wonderful, I backed the bullshit! 

    So WHY did you want him?  Ooops, this FO doesn't use film so they had zero idea of how Houston used him.  Isn't this the real reason they were still firing and hiring Assistant Offensive Coaches 3 years into the surrender of 1st and 2nd round draft picks?

    Inevitably someone will say "you just need to be more patient Flugel."  I'm only months away from turning 62 so I've been a Saint with patience.  Even Pittsburgh was looking at this team like "Is this all you ever want to be?  Fine, take it up the dumpster!"

    That's what it felt like I was watching today.

  • There can't possibly 1 person on this board excited about where this team is going with Andrew Berry in the driver seat and Paul DePodesta continuing to whisper sweet nothings in Jimmy's ear. It's gonna be all Stefanski's fault before we know it and he'll get scapegoated while the tenures of Berry and DePodesta continue.

    Oh wait, they got rid of Baker though... Yeah they got rid of Baker for Character concerns so their idea for better character was Watson?  Okay, no worries they did it for what his talent did/promised from his time  in Houston.  Wonderful, I backed the bullshit! 

    So WHY did you want him?  Ooops, this FO doesn't use film so they had zero idea of how Houston used him.  Isn't this the real reason they were still firing and hiring Assistant Offensive Coaches 3 years into the surrender of 1st and 2nd round draft picks?

    Inevitably someone will say "you just need to be more patient Flugel."  I'm only months away from turning 62 so I've been a Saint with patience.  Even Pittsburgh was looking at this team like "Is this all you ever want to be?  Fine, take it up the dumpster!"

    That's what it felt like I was watching today.

    @flugel said:

    There can't possibly 1 person on this board excited about where this team is going with Andrew Berry in the driver seat and Paul DePodesta continuing to whisper sweet nothings in Jimmy ear. It's gonna be all Stefanski's fault before we know it and he'll get scapegoated while the tenures of Berry and DePodesta continue.

    Oh wait, they got rid of Baker though... Yeah they got rid of Baker for Character concerns so their idea for better character was Watson?  Okay, no worries they did it for what his talent did/promised football  in Houston.  Wonderful, I back the bullshit!  So WHY did you want him?  Ooops, this FO doesn't use film so they had zero idea of how Houston used him.  Isn't this the real reason they were still firing and hiring Assistant Offensive Coaches 3 years into the surrender of 1st and 2nd round draft picks?

    Inevitably someone will say "you just need to be more patient Flugel."  I'm only months away from turning 62 so I've been a Saint with patience.  Even Pittsburgh was looking at this team like "Is this all you ever want to be?  Fine, take it up the dumpster!"

    That's what it felt like I was watching today.

    I'm sick of this team wilting like wet lettuce against the stools... This shit is beyond old... I'm exhausted...

  • There can't possibly 1 person on this board excited about where this team is going with Andrew Berry in the driver seat and Paul DePodesta continuing to whisper sweet nothings in Jimmy's ear. It's gonna be all Stefanski's fault before we know it and he'll get scapegoated while the tenures of Berry and DePodesta continue.

    Oh wait, they got rid of Baker though... Yeah they got rid of Baker for Character concerns so their idea for better character was Watson?  Okay, no worries they did it for what his talent did/promised from his time  in Houston.  Wonderful, I backed the bullshit! 

    So WHY did you want him?  Ooops, this FO doesn't use film so they had zero idea of how Houston used him.  Isn't this the real reason they were still firing and hiring Assistant Offensive Coaches 3 years into the surrender of 1st and 2nd round draft picks?

    Inevitably someone will say "you just need to be more patient Flugel."  I'm only months away from turning 62 so I've been a Saint with patience.  Even Pittsburgh was looking at this team like "Is this all you ever want to be?  Fine, take it up the dumpster!"

    That's what it felt like I was watching today.

    @flugel said:

    There can't possibly 1 person on this board excited about where this team is going with Andrew Berry in the driver seat and Paul DePodesta continuing to whisper sweet nothings in Jimmy ear. It's gonna be all Stefanski's fault before we know it and he'll get scapegoated while the tenures of Berry and DePodesta continue.

    Oh wait, they got rid of Baker though... Yeah they got rid of Baker for Character concerns so their idea for better character was Watson?  Okay, no worries they did it for what his talent did/promised football  in Houston.  Wonderful, I back the bullshit!  So WHY did you want him?  Ooops, this FO doesn't use film so they had zero idea of how Houston used him.  Isn't this the real reason they were still firing and hiring Assistant Offensive Coaches 3 years into the surrender of 1st and 2nd round draft picks?

    Inevitably someone will say "you just need to be more patient Flugel."  I'm only months away from turning 62 so I've been a Saint with patience.  Even Pittsburgh was looking at this team like "Is this all you ever want to be?  Fine, take it up the dumpster!"

    That's what it felt like I was watching today.

    I don’t understand hoe Depo still has a job. Isn’t he listed as “ Chief strategy officer”? 
    His strategy is NOT WORKING

  • @flugel said:

    There can't possibly 1 person on this board excited about where this team is going with Andrew Berry in the driver seat and Paul DePodesta continuing to whisper sweet nothings in Jimmy ear. It's gonna be all Stefanski's fault before we know it and he'll get scapegoated while the tenures of Berry and DePodesta continue.

    Oh wait, they got rid of Baker though... Yeah they got rid of Baker for Character concerns so their idea for better character was Watson?  Okay, no worries they did it for what his talent did/promised football  in Houston.  Wonderful, I back the bullshit!  So WHY did you want him?  Ooops, this FO doesn't use film so they had zero idea of how Houston used him.  Isn't this the real reason they were still firing and hiring Assistant Offensive Coaches 3 years into the surrender of 1st and 2nd round draft picks?

    Inevitably someone will say "you just need to be more patient Flugel."  I'm only months away from turning 62 so I've been a Saint with patience.  Even Pittsburgh was looking at this team like "Is this all you ever want to be?  Fine, take it up the dumpster!"

    That's what it felt like I was watching today.

    I don’t understand hoe Depo still has a job. Isn’t he listed as “ Chief strategy officer”? 
    His strategy is NOT WORKING

    @browns149 said:

    I don’t understand hoe Depo still has a job. Isn’t he listed as “ Chief strategy officer”? 
    His strategy is NOT WORKING

    We have the worst owner in Pro Sports

  • Did Myles Garrett play today?

  • @browns149 said:

    I don’t understand hoe Depo still has a job. Isn’t he listed as “ Chief strategy officer”? 
    His strategy is NOT WORKING

    We have the worst owner in Pro Sports

    @flugel said:

    We have the worst owner in Pro Sports

    I agree. 

  • Did Myles Garrett play today?

    @fy56 said:

    Did Myles Garrett play today?

    1 tackle. 

  • @flugel said:

    There can't possibly 1 person on this board excited about where this team is going with Andrew Berry in the driver seat and Paul DePodesta continuing to whisper sweet nothings in Jimmy ear. It's gonna be all Stefanski's fault before we know it and he'll get scapegoated while the tenures of Berry and DePodesta continue.

    Oh wait, they got rid of Baker though... Yeah they got rid of Baker for Character concerns so their idea for better character was Watson?  Okay, no worries they did it for what his talent did/promised football  in Houston.  Wonderful, I back the bullshit!  So WHY did you want him?  Ooops, this FO doesn't use film so they had zero idea of how Houston used him.  Isn't this the real reason they were still firing and hiring Assistant Offensive Coaches 3 years into the surrender of 1st and 2nd round draft picks?

    Inevitably someone will say "you just need to be more patient Flugel."  I'm only months away from turning 62 so I've been a Saint with patience.  Even Pittsburgh was looking at this team like "Is this all you ever want to be?  Fine, take it up the dumpster!"

    That's what it felt like I was watching today.

    I'm sick of this team wilting like wet lettuce against the stools... This shit is beyond old... I'm exhausted...

    @nickers said:

    I'm sick of this team wilting like wet lettuce against the stools... This shit is beyond old... I'm exhausted...

    Maybe next year we'll draft THREE QBs instead of making this team better again. We've kind of neglected QBs under 5'8" tall and that's not very nice... 

  • Watched the whole game, was on tape delay and finished it even when I knew the final score (like the eye opening torture in Clockwork Orange). Didn't expect a Browns win as our greatest weakness (O-line) was matched against the Steeler's greatest strengh (D-line). I predicted the Steelers scoring 23 points and only a miracle win if Judkins went off for 200 yds and two TDs. Gabriel's throws down the field confirm why he was a 4/5th round draft grade but our brilliant FO took him in the 3rd and the coaches fell for that. Lavardain looked promising before the Steeler's dirty hit, Fannin was good but needs to hit the jugs machine. Jeudy was borderline benchable  but our offense as a whole just looks disjointed. Maybe we'll be less dysfunctional than Miami coming in next week but I'm close to cancelling my Sunday Ticket subscription and calling it quits this season.

  • The Steelers spent their bye week fixing their run defense and essentially made us play left handed - throwing the ball with our rookie 40 plus times.  

    squash the rush attack sit on everything short and let our tackles implode. It is simple and effective.

  • Not a good game.  

    OL play was poor, as expected.  68 & 72 were not good.  

    Judy is dropping balls.

    Gabriel could've notched 3 INT's if the Steelers could catch.  I wish Gabriel well, I really do...but he's such a teeny weeny little guy out there.  I like tall QB's.  

    As Sd said, they sold out to stop the run and banked on our poor OL to keep the passing game down.  

    Alex Wright had a good game.  Schwesinger and Bush played well.  Trey Campbell got burned for a TD.  (welcome to the Browns)

    Andre kicked well for us.  

    Garrett had 2 tackles.  

    After traveling the world, we come home to face the Dolphins.  I'd like to say that upcoming games are against teams that we should be able to beat, but our offensive Tackle play is so bad, I just don't know how we can score points.  

    At least the Jags lost.

  • Hit em in the hands...sigh

    @kvoethe said:

    Hit em in the hands...sigh

    I'm dropping Jeudy off my FFL team tomorrow. We drop players and redraft available others after the 1st 6 weeks. He's been worthless. Hasn't scored one single point under our scoring system.

  • @kvoethe said:

    Hit em in the hands...sigh

    I'm dropping Jeudy off my FFL team tomorrow. We drop players and redraft available others after the 1st 6 weeks. He's been worthless. Hasn't scored one single point under our scoring system.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I'm dropping Jeudy off my FFL team

    What's good for the goose is good for the gander.  

  • Joe Flacco under duress most of the game throwing to covered WRs and completing passes.  
     

    we could use some WRs 

  • There can't possibly 1 person on this board excited about where this team is going with Andrew Berry in the driver seat and Paul DePodesta continuing to whisper sweet nothings in Jimmy's ear. It's gonna be all Stefanski's fault before we know it and he'll get scapegoated while the tenures of Berry and DePodesta continue.

    Oh wait, they got rid of Baker though... Yeah they got rid of Baker for Character concerns so their idea for better character was Watson?  Okay, no worries they did it for what his talent did/promised from his time  in Houston.  Wonderful, I backed the bullshit! 

    So WHY did you want him?  Ooops, this FO doesn't use film so they had zero idea of how Houston used him.  Isn't this the real reason they were still firing and hiring Assistant Offensive Coaches 3 years into the surrender of 1st and 2nd round draft picks?

    Inevitably someone will say "you just need to be more patient Flugel."  I'm only months away from turning 62 so I've been a Saint with patience.  Even Pittsburgh was looking at this team like "Is this all you ever want to be?  Fine, take it up the dumpster!"

    That's what it felt like I was watching today.

    @flugel said:

    There can't possibly 1 person on this board excited about where this team is going with Andrew Berry in the driver seat and Paul DePodesta continuing to whisper sweet nothings in Jimmy's ear. It's gonna be all Stefanski's fault before we know it and he'll get scapegoated while the tenures of Berry and DePodesta continue.

    That's the crazy thing - it appears that Berry nailed the last draft. 

    He got a potential at least above average DTackle AND picked up a first rounder and second rounder in the process. Judkins and Krautbacker appear to be guys to build around in the second round, Fannin looks like a starter for years. Gabriel is limited, but he doesn't look overwhelmed and IMO he's going to be a good backup for years. I think in a functional offense even today he could do a respectable job if needed. 

    But I can't help to look at that draft and still think "How did you not draft OLine?" 

    And I think you are right - Stefanski is going to be the scapegoat during this season or right after the season ends. It is what it is, we've beaten the horse to death regarding his weaknesses and honestly I think it will be time to move on.

    But at the end of the day, how optimistic can we be when the Haslams are still going to be in charge and with DePodesta and Berry running the show? 

  • Joe Flacco under duress most of the game throwing to covered WRs and completing passes.  
     

    we could use some WRs 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Joe Flacco under duress most of the game throwing to covered WRs and completing passes.  
     

    we could use some WRs 

    We need WRs... and OLinemen... and cornerbacks... and a linebacker... and probably a bigger tight end to complement Fannin because Njoku's days are probably numbered one way or another.... and of course a legit starting-caliber QB.

    Piece of cake. ?