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  • FlugelF Flugel

    @dutch-oven said:

    QB, OLine, WR and CB are huge needs next offseason 

    Time out!  Let's start putting what we don't need in the draft - it's just easier:  Center, RB, TE, Punter & Place Kick Holder (same guy).  

    @flugel said:

    Time out!  Let's start putting what we don't need in the draft - it's just easier:  Center, RB, TE, Punter & Place Kick Holder (same guy).  

    You aren’t wrong 

  • This week's film review of Gabriel was pretty damning, all that bs about "processing at a high level" was just that. Didn't make many good decisions, inaccurate on nearly every throw beyond 15 yds, so Steelers had a field day and didn't even bother covering deep routes.  I'm boldly predicting Shedeur will play against Miami, McDaniels being so desperate to keep his job will throw everything at him so he'll either get him injured or play so bad that Kevin will have no choice but to pull him out.

    • Chase Daniel's film review.

  • I honestly would love to see Shedeur Sanders in sooner than later.

    I believe the expression "Be careful what you wish for" would be worn by Shedeur fans. 

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    I honestly would love to see Shedeur Sanders in sooner than later.

    I believe the expression "Be careful what you wish for" would be worn by Shedeur fans. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I honestly would love to see Shedeur Sanders in sooner than later.

    I believe the expression "Be careful what you wish for" would be worn by Shedeur fans. 

    The entire offense is a mess, prime example Bond getting doinked on the helmet instead of catching a TD. I don't think Shedeur will look much better except his accuracy may get him out of a few more jams.

  • M MDDawg

    @dutch-oven said:

    I honestly would love to see Shedeur Sanders in sooner than later.

    I believe the expression "Be careful what you wish for" would be worn by Shedeur fans. 

    The entire offense is a mess, prime example Bond getting doinked on the helmet instead of catching a TD. I don't think Shedeur will look much better except his accuracy may get him out of a few more jams.

    @mddawg said:

    The entire offense is a mess, prime example Bond getting doinked on the helmet instead of catching a TD. I don't think Shedeur will look much better except his accuracy may get him out of a few more jams.

    I think Shedeur has a higher ceiling than Gabriel (even though it wouldn't shock me if DG has a longer NFL career because I think Sanders has a lower floor too) but I don't get the impression he's really ready, and I hate rushing QBs too soon. Now, around Thanksgiving or so? After Sanders has been the backup for a month and half to two months? I might be more apt to give him a chance to start. 

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @mddawg said:

    The entire offense is a mess, prime example Bond getting doinked on the helmet instead of catching a TD. I don't think Shedeur will look much better except his accuracy may get him out of a few more jams.

    I think Shedeur has a higher ceiling than Gabriel (even though it wouldn't shock me if DG has a longer NFL career because I think Sanders has a lower floor too) but I don't get the impression he's really ready, and I hate rushing QBs too soon. Now, around Thanksgiving or so? After Sanders has been the backup for a month and half to two months? I might be more apt to give him a chance to start. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I think Shedeur has a higher ceiling than Gabriel (even though it wouldn't shock me if DG has a longer NFL career because I think Sanders has a lower floor too) but I don't get the impression he's really ready, and I hate rushing QBs too soon. Now, around Thanksgiving or so? After Sanders has been the backup for a month and half to two months? I might be more apt to give him a chance to start. 

    Nothing would surprise me at this point.  As for the part in bold above - that was an interesting choice of words you selected... We could probably make a drinking game out of this or just cry in our beers. In the football sense, I know what you meant...

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"

  • As early as the trade-down, the plan was to get our QB next year so screwing around and drafting 2 QBs WITHOUT a sane plan at Offensive Tackle railroaded us to what we're seeing.  The very 1st draft pick of the new HC for the LA Chargers last year was RT Joe Alt from ND while they already had a Pro Bowl LT - Rashawn Slater.  They went 11-6 and went to the playoffs. 

    Whether Gabriel is the NFL version of the next Doug Flutie (minus Flutie's agility and quickness) or Brian Sipe (drafted in 1972 before taking over as fulltime starter in the mid 70s and earning NFL MVP in 80) - his job description in this hot mess is NFL Crash Dummy.  And he's the 1 QB with more approval in the sum of Cleveland Browns Owner + FO + HC + anyone else.  The other rookie QB only seemed had the owner interested in him; which already sets up the inevitable shit show.  That doesn't set up a collective group that will want to see Sanders succeed especially if their guy doesn't/didn't.  

    I don't care if I ever see Sanders play here; and the sad thing is I think he can be decent in an organization WAY BETTER than this one. The same can be said for the rookie QB all but the Owner favors. At 1 point - someone had a decent idea to bring Kenny Pickett here for the realistic situation heading our way in 2025.  I want to say this isn't exactly the Titanic colliding with a glacier/iceberg that the person guiding the ship never saw after midnight; but it is and it isn't. We've had friends in here that have passed away in recent years that never got to see the type of Browns they once saw or heard about due to piss poor ownerships.  Does anyone really think he'll fire either FO squid?  My guess is he'll do what he always does and fire a symptom of the FO (ie: HC Kevin Stefanski).  That will even pacify anyone/everyone that thinks he's the entire problem because I'm told what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.  Paul DePodesta's unchallenged FO tenure is as strong as it gets.  For those in here thinking Stefanski is the only problem (and I'm not saying I agree with that as much as I'm saying I can no longer argue with it) - I will say he didn't hire himself.  The guy that really wanted him was DePodesta.  That means getting your way this year with only firing DePodesta's choice of HC is certain to repeat itself in a couple years so that's pretty cool for our crowd that lives to celebrate firing HCs here.  If that's really the case (and it might be) - try to look deeper THIS TIME like who's been doing the hiring and why is he allowed to continue doing so; because he's really bad at it.   

    Brook Park ain't gonna change this stink...

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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  • I think Gabriel is a great kid and a great team mate... The problem for me with Gabriel is.. He just does not drive the ball with enough authority.. By the same token... our WR's are trash.. I think Shadeur has the same issue... He doesn't gun the ball with authority... I'm becoming a big Mendoza fan.. My other candidates are Klubnik and Beck although Beck has struggled some.. My dark horse QB for the future is a kid who goes to Dayton University where my nephew plays DE... His name is Bryce Shondelmeyer.... He makes big time throws and could be a portal transfer to a bigger school.. Unfortunately he got injured this past Saturday with a loss to rival team Butler...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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  • During the broadcast, the legendary quarterback actually gave Gabriel his stamp of approval:

    “Dillon Gabriel, a young, left-handed rookie. I like him a lot, I think he’s gonna be a star in the league,” Bradshaw said.

    .....this coming from a man that hates the Browns.  I think I'd consider immediately inserting Sanders.

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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  • Gabriel is proving to be a competent backup so far. He can't throw a ball accurately downfield and for now is only attacking the left side of the field. I think Shedeur needs to start so we can make decisions regarding QB in the next draft.

  • M MDDawg

    Gabriel is proving to be a competent backup so far. He can't throw a ball accurately downfield and for now is only attacking the left side of the field. I think Shedeur needs to start so we can make decisions regarding QB in the next draft.

    @mddawg said:

    I think Shedeur needs to start so we can make decisions regarding QB in the next draft.

    We'd certainly like a chance to evaluate him.  The coaches are now seeing him in practice regularly as he's the backup.  There's evaluation going on at that level anyway.  

    They didn't want Sanders.  They only wanted him when his value was right.  Stef is going to give his pick a good long look.  And so far Gabriel doesn't look so bad that he should be pulled for poor performance.  For a rookie, he's not doing badly.  It's just that we want to go to the taller kid with the perceived possible higher ceiling because we wouldn't have drafted Gabriel.  

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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