For the haters
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Meanwhile, the NFL draft next spring?
Walter football has the Browns, picking at #2:
Cleveland Browns: Keldric Faulk, DE, Auburn
No qb, no OT.
Of course the Browns also have the #21 pick.
and they pick:
Cleveland Browns: John Mateer, QB, Oklahoma 
The Browns will give Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders a shot at some point. If they both fail, they’ll look to select a quarterback with one of their two first-round picks in the 2026 NFL Draft.
John Mateer is very accurate and mobile. Charlie Campbell’s sources compare Mateer to Baker Mayfield.
That is funny.
Meanwhile, the NFL draft next spring?
Walter football has the Browns, picking at #2:
Cleveland Browns: Keldric Faulk, DE, Auburn
No qb, no OT.
Of course the Browns also have the #21 pick.
and they pick:
Cleveland Browns: John Mateer, QB, Oklahoma
The Browns will give Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders a shot at some point. If they both fail, they’ll look to select a quarterback with one of their two first-round picks in the 2026 NFL Draft.
John Mateer is very accurate and mobile. Charlie Campbell’s sources compare Mateer to Baker Mayfield.
That is funny.
Having watched every Oklahoma game this season, Mateer isn't impressive mobile and is WILDLY inaccurate.
Every 6'1 white dude is now Baker Mayfield. Cade Klubnik has Baker comparisons from similar sites.
It's lazy football journalism. But that's standard anymore.
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Is your Pussies Anonymous Meeting with cal and nickers starting soon? ?
What a shock, you didn't answer me when I asked where you live.
It's not in the Mahoning Valley anymore, though. ?
Is that what they’re calling the No Kings protests now?
How was the turnout?
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Meanwhile, the NFL draft next spring?
Walter football has the Browns, picking at #2:
Cleveland Browns: Keldric Faulk, DE, Auburn
No qb, no OT.
Of course the Browns also have the #21 pick.
and they pick:
Cleveland Browns: John Mateer, QB, Oklahoma
The Browns will give Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders a shot at some point. If they both fail, they’ll look to select a quarterback with one of their two first-round picks in the 2026 NFL Draft.
John Mateer is very accurate and mobile. Charlie Campbell’s sources compare Mateer to Baker Mayfield.
That is funny.
Meanwhile, the NFL draft next spring?
Walter football has the Browns, picking at #2:
Cleveland Browns: Keldric Faulk, DE, Auburn
No qb, no OT.
Of course the Browns also have the #21 pick.
and they pick:
Cleveland Browns: John Mateer, QB, Oklahoma
The Browns will give Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders a shot at some point. If they both fail, they’ll look to select a quarterback with one of their two first-round picks in the 2026 NFL Draft.
John Mateer is very accurate and mobile. Charlie Campbell’s sources compare Mateer to Baker Mayfield.
That is funny.
Baker was the 1st overall pick in 2018. I haven't read, seen or heard any buzz that Mateer (as a red-shirt Junior) is that type of talent. Here's his college career stats (2022-2024 he played at Washington State). He's not off to a great start this year; so he may want to stay at Oklahoma and get a 3rd year of starting under his belt:
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Your racist piece of shit buddy is probably in tears with gratitude that you tried to save his ass too! ?
Because your boy Gorka isn't exactly "tuff"... ?
?When all fails play the racist card! Tell me now who’s trying to save their ass.?
?When all fails play the racist card! Tell me now who’s trying to save their ass.?
thing is you are a racist pos, why not just admit it and embrace it, I mean it must really suck being a closet racist, set yourself free gorka I bet it would beat crying in your white sheets every night, be true to yourself gorka
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Ironically enough I need TB to score at least 18 points against Detroit, because the one person who can overtake me this weekend in FFL has the Detroit defense. 18 points would negate any scoring other than takeaways run back for TDs. And TB needs to hold St. Brown and the Detroit kicker down under about a 4 TD level of scoring. Our system awards 50 points for TDs and 25 for FGs, 10 for XPs. I lead him by 219 points total and am done for the weekend.
Ironically enough I need TB to score at least 18 points against Detroit, because the one person who can overtake me this weekend in FFL has the Detroit defense. 18 points would negate any scoring other than takeaways run back for TDs. And TB needs to hold St. Brown and the Detroit kicker down under about a 4 TD level of scoring. Our system awards 50 points for TDs and 25 for FGs, 10 for XPs. I lead him by 219 points total and am done for the weekend.
How did that work for ya?
The Bucs got exposed as the frauds they are tonight..
Their 5-2 could very easily be 2-5
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Ironically enough I need TB to score at least 18 points against Detroit, because the one person who can overtake me this weekend in FFL has the Detroit defense. 18 points would negate any scoring other than takeaways run back for TDs. And TB needs to hold St. Brown and the Detroit kicker down under about a 4 TD level of scoring. Our system awards 50 points for TDs and 25 for FGs, 10 for XPs. I lead him by 219 points total and am done for the weekend.
How did that work for ya?
The Bucs got exposed as the frauds they are tonight..
Their 5-2 could very easily be 2-5
How did that work for ya?
The Bucs got exposed as the frauds they are tonight..
Their 5-2 could very easily be 2-5
Well, Detroit has lost two games too, but I don't know how the hell they lost any. They dominated the Bucs, destroyed the Bucs run and pass game, Baker didn't have wr's get open until he nearly got hammered or did get hammered.... Injuries took their toll on the Bucs to be able to play much at all against the Lions. Baker just got his butt kicked most of the game, Otton was getting some throws, Without Evans and Godwin, the Bucs worked some miracles against other teams, but the Lions overran them hugely. And... I probably had another team stomp my Kosardawgs, with Gibbs on their team - he had over 200 yards rushing? Wow.
Buccaneers vs Lions
NFL9 — 24Oct 20 • Final -
Faker chokes in big games, nothing new.
MVP? I don't think so.
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Ironically enough I need TB to score at least 18 points against Detroit, because the one person who can overtake me this weekend in FFL has the Detroit defense. 18 points would negate any scoring other than takeaways run back for TDs. And TB needs to hold St. Brown and the Detroit kicker down under about a 4 TD level of scoring. Our system awards 50 points for TDs and 25 for FGs, 10 for XPs. I lead him by 219 points total and am done for the weekend.
How did that work for ya?
The Bucs got exposed as the frauds they are tonight..
Their 5-2 could very easily be 2-5
How did that work for ya?
The Bucs got exposed as the frauds they are tonight..
Their 5-2 could very easily be 2-5
I ended up winning by only 24 points. St Brown was held to 1 TD and 86 yds (1 point for every yd over 70), kicker had only 1 FG and 3 XPs and the Lions D held TB to only 9 points which scores 75 points. If they had held them to 7 or less it would have been 100 points and beat me by 1. So at least the frauds did something right. So I'm $40 happier for the night.??
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It's not that I can't stand Taylor Swift, I can't stand the Swifties. They make her, and by extension her music, absolutely insufferable.
It's the same way with Baker. It's the same way with Shedeur.
Neither QB can lose, in the mind of their cult members, and you see the parallels.
If they win ---> it's their individual greatness.
If they lose ----> coaches fault, others players fault, not enough talent around them. My personal favorite ---> "scheme". Which, when you ask anyone to detail, they get mad. Because they can't.
I spent good money to go watch Baker and the Brownies every year. I was there chanting his name against the Bengals for the last home game in 2018.
I was there, opening day 2019 watching him rip passes into the Titans 2nd level defenders and not holding DBs with his eyes.
I was there in 2021, freezing my shit off against Baltimore and screaming when the defense was on the field.
NOBODY on this board hates Baker. Saying dumb shit like this has always been a pathetic attempt to dismiss legitimate criticism of his play by those who have odd fixations on people they've never met. Just like anyone or anything else? Your favorite football player? He does no wrong. Your favorite politician? Sinless. Your favorite musician? The best to ever do it.
The first rule of any cult is to believe that anyone and everyone else is lying to you when reasonable question and critique is brought up re: the cult diety.
You have members of this board, including the chaunce that owns it, who show up to troll their own fan base every so often, especially after a loss, wildly disproportionate to anything constructive they could have offered at any point since the start of the 2022 season. And THAT, is what irks people.
TL;DR. If you find yourself popping on this board to smoke Bakers pole and little else, then you're the football equivalent of a Swiftie. You're a high school cheerleader and should be regarded as such.
It's the same way with Baker. It's the same way with Shedeur.
Neither QB can lose, in the mind of their cult members, and you see the parallels.
If they win ---> it's their individual greatness.
If they lose ----> coaches fault, others players fault, not enough talent around them.
Pay close attention to the examples, friends.
Injuries took their toll on the Bucs to be able to play much at all against the Lions..
Ignores that the Lions had multiple starters out, primarily on defense.
Baker didn't have wr's get open until he nearly got hammered or did get hammered....
Missed 3rd down conversion.
Bailing early from a clean pocket. Look familiar, huh?
Coaches tell Baker he missed the earlier 3rd down conversion above. So let's set a rub route and give him a wide open, easy conversion with YAC just like before.
He didn't take this throw and this wasn't a conversion.
4th down, down two scores. We're going to setup X follow, it's an in to out read, 1 to 2. Gotta have it.
Does Baker deliver? Negative. Does he see it? absolutely.
Late 4th down, safety Voids the middle of the field on a post-wheel. Baker locks into the wheel route and misses a WIDE OPEN post for a TD.
Coaches tell him "Baker, you missed it. They're playing middle field open, throw the damn post" and they go right back to a similar concept.
Instead of stepping into the throw and just taking the contact, he fades back and gator arms this into a safety coming late out of the low hole....
That's a 27 yard throw he short armed still. He was late and it was underthrown, the TD was there.
At worst the outlet option on 2nd and 8 was there.
Things I had said previously to remember.
Baker was leading the entire NFL in turnover worthy throws before playing Philly. But that's Baker in a nutshell. He'll rip it and you'll live with the consequences, be it good or bad. Sometimes it's great, other times he digs an early hole and fights to get out, or makes the hole even deeper.
NOBODY on this board hates Baker. Saying dumb shit like this has always been a pathetic attempt to dismiss legitimate criticism of his play
Just like anyone or anything else. Your favorite football player? He does no wrong. Your favorite politician? Sinless. Your favorite musician? The best to ever do it. The first rule of any cult is to believe that anyone and everyone else is lying to you when reasonable question and critique is brought up re: the cult diety.
At least Axe has the modest reason to be able to come back and go "yeah, we played like shit". I have to give him that respect. No excuses, no whataboutisms.
Culty Cal will swamp this board with Facebook links from FootballFucks.org, things from the most obscure parts of the internet, in anyway to make sure he doesn't have to admit that Baker can do no wrong and that it was everyone else who failed his deity. Another example of manic behavior.
No Steve trolling, doubt you'll see him this week.
Remember, had the Baker Bros not started this thread, there would be no responses to it. There would be nobody else that would have created a thread to a QB who hasn't been with CLE for 3.5 seasons just to trash him. Hasn't been so far, to my knowledge. What you're seeing here isn't "hate"... it's annoyed fatigue.
edit: And for those who think this is "cherry picking"
3 missed 3rd downs would be almost 20% of the 3rd down attempts.
2 of the 5 4th downs is 40%.
Both of those are statistically relevant and impactful when measured in percentages.
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All of the picks and such above would be great if it was about Gabriel's game against the Dolphins instead of a QB from another conference. But that's just me.
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No that wasn’t it at all Duchess.
Allow me to try again..,.
He said two words.
That’s all it took for you to get your panties up in knots.???
Let me do it in one word..
PUSSY!
5,4,3,2,1….
If me literally embarrassing you enough to make you change your name, hide on the Poliboard and pretend not to be yourself isn't bad enough, the fact that one of your Poliboard buddies had to come over here to save you from the war you started is just the icing on the cake! ?
HELP ME HELP ME! ???
If me literally embarrassing you enough to make you change your name, hide on the Poliboard and pretend not to be yourself isn't bad enough, the fact that one of your Poliboard buddies had to come over here to save you from the war you started is just the icing on the cake! ?
HELP ME HELP ME! ???
Not to interrupt you and Princess - I think you're right that our Pretty in Pink keyboard Warrior all of a sudden has been PMing a bunch of people because he never stands up to you. I doubt he's in his 70s - that's more of a extra protective shield when he's online with his tough guy bullshit. Nobody worth a shit would act like that in their 70s...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
It's the same way with Baker. It's the same way with Shedeur.
Neither QB can lose, in the mind of their cult members, and you see the parallels.
If they win ---> it's their individual greatness.
If they lose ----> coaches fault, others players fault, not enough talent around them.
Pay close attention to the examples, friends.
Injuries took their toll on the Bucs to be able to play much at all against the Lions..
Ignores that the Lions had multiple starters out, primarily on defense.
Baker didn't have wr's get open until he nearly got hammered or did get hammered....
Missed 3rd down conversion.
Bailing early from a clean pocket. Look familiar, huh?
Coaches tell Baker he missed the earlier 3rd down conversion above. So let's set a rub route and give him a wide open, easy conversion with YAC just like before.
He didn't take this throw and this wasn't a conversion.
4th down, down two scores. We're going to setup X follow, it's an in to out read, 1 to 2. Gotta have it.
Does Baker deliver? Negative. Does he see it? absolutely.
Late 4th down, safety Voids the middle of the field on a post-wheel. Baker locks into the wheel route and misses a WIDE OPEN post for a TD.
Coaches tell him "Baker, you missed it. They're playing middle field open, throw the damn post" and they go right back to a similar concept.
Instead of stepping into the throw and just taking the contact, he fades back and gator arms this into a safety coming late out of the low hole....
That's a 27 yard throw he short armed still. He was late and it was underthrown, the TD was there.
At worst the outlet option on 2nd and 8 was there.
Things I had said previously to remember.
Baker was leading the entire NFL in turnover worthy throws before playing Philly. But that's Baker in a nutshell. He'll rip it and you'll live with the consequences, be it good or bad. Sometimes it's great, other times he digs an early hole and fights to get out, or makes the hole even deeper.
NOBODY on this board hates Baker. Saying dumb shit like this has always been a pathetic attempt to dismiss legitimate criticism of his play
Just like anyone or anything else. Your favorite football player? He does no wrong. Your favorite politician? Sinless. Your favorite musician? The best to ever do it. The first rule of any cult is to believe that anyone and everyone else is lying to you when reasonable question and critique is brought up re: the cult diety.
At least Axe has the modest reason to be able to come back and go "yeah, we played like shit". I have to give him that respect. No excuses, no whataboutisms.
Culty Cal will swamp this board with Facebook links from FootballFucks.org, things from the most obscure parts of the internet, in anyway to make sure he doesn't have to admit that Baker can do no wrong and that it was everyone else who failed his deity. Another example of manic behavior.
No Steve trolling, doubt you'll see him this week.
Remember, had the Baker Bros not started this thread, there would be no responses to it. There would be nobody else that would have created a thread to a QB who hasn't been with CLE for 3.5 seasons just to trash him. Hasn't been so far, to my knowledge. What you're seeing here isn't "hate"... it's annoyed fatigue.
edit: And for those who think this is "cherry picking"
3 missed 3rd downs would be almost 20% of the 3rd down attempts.
2 of the 5 4th downs is 40%.
Both of those are statistically relevant and impactful when measured in percentages.
Pay close attention to the examples, friends.
Ignores that the Lions had multiple starters out, primarily on defense.
Missed 3rd down conversion.
Bailing early from a clean pocket. Look familiar, huh?
Coaches tell Baker he missed the earlier 3rd down conversion above. So let's set a rub route and give him a wide open, easy conversion with YAC just like before.
He didn't take this throw and this wasn't a conversion.
4th down, down two scores. We're going to setup X follow, it's an in to out read, 1 to 2. Gotta have it.
Does Baker deliver? Negative. Does he see it? absolutely.
Late 4th down, safety Voids the middle of the field on a post-wheel. Baker locks into the wheel route and misses a WIDE OPEN post for a TD.
Coaches tell him "Baker, you missed it. They're playing middle field open, throw the damn post" and they go right back to a similar concept.
Instead of stepping into the throw and just taking the contact, he fades back and gator arms this into a safety coming late out of the low hole....
That's a 27 yard throw he short armed still. He was late and it was underthrown, the TD was there.
At worst the outlet option on 2nd and 8 was there.
Things I had said previously to remember.
At least Axe has the modest reason to be able to come back and go "yeah, we played like shit". I have to give him that respect. No excuses, no whataboutisms.
Culty Cal will swamp this board with Facebook links from FootballFucks.org, things from the most obscure parts of the internet, in anyway to make sure he doesn't have to admit that Baker can do no wrong and that it was everyone else who failed his deity. Another example of manic behavior.
No Steve trolling, doubt you'll see him this week.
Remember, had the Baker Bros not started this thread, there would be no responses to it. There would be nobody else that would have created a thread to a QB who hasn't been with CLE for 3.5 seasons just to trash him. Hasn't been so far, to my knowledge. What you're seeing here isn't "hate"... it's annoyed fatigue.
edit: And for those who think this is "cherry picking"
3 missed 3rd downs would be almost 20% of the 3rd down attempts.
2 of the 5 4th downs is 40%.
Both of those are statistically relevant and impactful when measured in percentages.
Looks like check mate to me. Well done!
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If me literally embarrassing you enough to make you change your name, hide on the Poliboard and pretend not to be yourself isn't bad enough, the fact that one of your Poliboard buddies had to come over here to save you from the war you started is just the icing on the cake! ?
HELP ME HELP ME! ???
Not to interrupt you and Princess - I think you're right that our Pretty in Pink keyboard Warrior all of a sudden has been PMing a bunch of people because he never stands up to you. I doubt he's in his 70s - that's more of a extra protective shield when he's online with his tough guy bullshit. Nobody worth a shit would act like that in their 70s...
Not to interrupt you and Princess - I think you're right that our Pretty in Pink keyboard Warrior all of a sudden has been PMing a bunch of people because he never stands up to you. I doubt he's in his 70s - that's more of a extra protective shield when he's online with his tough guy bullshit. Nobody worth a shit would act like that in their 70s...
Well that’s the thing… He’s not worth a shit.
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If me literally embarrassing you enough to make you change your name, hide on the Poliboard and pretend not to be yourself isn't bad enough, the fact that one of your Poliboard buddies had to come over here to save you from the war you started is just the icing on the cake! ?
HELP ME HELP ME! ???
Not to interrupt you and Princess - I think you're right that our Pretty in Pink keyboard Warrior all of a sudden has been PMing a bunch of people because he never stands up to you. I doubt he's in his 70s - that's more of a extra protective shield when he's online with his tough guy bullshit. Nobody worth a shit would act like that in their 70s...
Not to interrupt you and Princess - I think you're right that our Pretty in Pink keyboard Warrior all of a sudden has been PMing a bunch of people because he never stands up.............
Well today by pure luck we walked into Bath Abbey and watched a free concert this woman keyboarding 4 sets of hand keyboards and two sets of footboards on the very deep and resonant organ. It was like watching Van Cliburn on piano, but a lot more intricate. Sliding back and forth to reach all the base footboards while fingers were up and down all the aboveboards was truly wonderful. Absolutely speelbinding and nothing to hate at all. So gifted.
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Not to interrupt you and Princess - I think you're right that our Pretty in Pink keyboard Warrior all of a sudden has been PMing a bunch of people because he never stands up.............
Well today by pure luck we walked into Bath Abbey and watched a free concert this woman keyboarding 4 sets of hand keyboards and two sets of footboards on the very deep and resonant organ. It was like watching Van Cliburn on piano, but a lot more intricate. Sliding back and forth to reach all the base footboards while fingers were up and down all the aboveboards was truly wonderful. Absolutely speelbinding and nothing to hate at all. So gifted.
Well today by pure luck we walked into Bath Abbey and watched a free concert this woman keyboarding 4 sets of hand keyboards and two sets of footboards on the very deep and resonant organ. It was like watching Van Cliburn on piano, but a lot more intricate. Sliding back and forth to reach all the base footboards while fingers were up and down all the aboveboards was truly wonderful. Absolutely speelbinding and nothing to hate at all. So gifted.
You really want to witness an amazing Pianist.. Checkout Yuja Wang... Her point/counterpoint melody skills are off the charts.. Her interpretations of Rachmaninoff are completely stunning... Shes not only technically gifted.. She is very dynamic with emotion... It's amazing to watch and take in...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
oh, boo hoo, boy who is afraid to play fantasy football, and won't talk about being, or not being, a "very tight end" in an lgbqlomnp college, and only bitches about Baker's bad game, after the whole offense imploded. Bitchers/haters gonna bitch and hate. Have a nice day somewhere you won't be disagreed with Tiam. Evans was the only hope, and he ended up with a broken collarbone.
Man up, Shirley Tiam, the bucs have the same win loss record as the Lions, it was just a bad matchup this game for the Bucs.
The Bucs lead their division, the Lions don't.
Pretty sissified to only bitch at length about Baker this one game, and play stupid all the other great games. Need to grow up, Shirley Tiam.
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Well today by pure luck we walked into Bath Abbey and watched a free concert this woman keyboarding 4 sets of hand keyboards and two sets of footboards on the very deep and resonant organ. It was like watching Van Cliburn on piano, but a lot more intricate. Sliding back and forth to reach all the base footboards while fingers were up and down all the aboveboards was truly wonderful. Absolutely speelbinding and nothing to hate at all. So gifted.
You really want to witness an amazing Pianist.. Checkout Yuja Wang... Her point/counterpoint melody skills are off the charts.. Her interpretations of Rachmaninoff are completely stunning... Shes not only technically gifted.. She is very dynamic with emotion... It's amazing to watch and take in...
You really want to witness an amazing Pianist.. Checkout Yuja Wang... Her point/counterpoint melody skills are off the charts.. Her interpretations of Rachmaninoff are completely stunning... Shes not only technically gifted.. She is very dynamic with emotion... It's amazing to watch and take in...
She is impressive as is the organist
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oh, boo hoo, boy who is afraid to play fantasy football, and won't talk about being, or not being, a "very tight end" in an lgbqlomnp college, and only bitches about Baker's bad game, after the whole offense imploded. Bitchers/haters gonna bitch and hate. Have a nice day somewhere you won't be disagreed with Tiam. Evans was the only hope, and he ended up with a broken collarbone.
Man up, Shirley Tiam, the bucs have the same win loss record as the Lions, it was just a bad matchup this game for the Bucs.
The Bucs lead their division, the Lions don't.
Pretty sissified to only bitch at length about Baker this one game, and play stupid all the other great games. Need to grow up, Shirley Tiam, and stop pouting.
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I wonder how Steve knew the haters would whine all over this thread.
Very clever !
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