For the haters

[TexasAg1969]

@flugel said:

Not to interrupt you and Princess -  I think you're right that our Pretty in Pink keyboard Warrior all of a sudden has been PMing a bunch of people because he never stands up.............

Well today by pure luck we walked into Bath Abbey and watched a free concert this woman keyboarding 4 sets of hand keyboards and two sets of footboards on the very deep and resonant organ. It was like watching Van Cliburn on piano, but a lot more intricate. Sliding back and forth to reach all the base footboards while fingers were up and down all the aboveboards was truly wonderful. Absolutely speelbinding and nothing to hate at all. So gifted.

https://www.carolyncraigmusician.com/about.html

[nickers]

@texasag1969 said:

Well today by pure luck we walked into Bath Abbey and watched a free concert this woman keyboarding 4 sets of hand keyboards and two sets of footboards on the very deep and resonant organ. It was like watching Van Cliburn on piano, but a lot more intricate. Sliding back and forth to reach all the base footboards while fingers were up and down all the aboveboards was truly wonderful. Absolutely speelbinding and nothing to hate at all. So gifted.

https://www.carolyncraigmusician.com/about.html

You really want to witness an amazing Pianist.. Checkout Yuja Wang... Her point/counterpoint melody skills are off the charts.. Her interpretations of Rachmaninoff are completely stunning... Shes not only technically gifted.. She is very dynamic with emotion... It's amazing to watch and take in...

[calfoxwc]

oh, boo hoo, boy who is afraid to play fantasy football, and won't talk about being, or not being, a "very tight end" in an lgbqlomnp college, and only bitches about Baker's bad game, after the whole offense imploded. Bitchers/haters gonna bitch and hate. Have a nice day somewhere you won't be disagreed with Tiam. Evans was the only hope, and he ended up with a broken collarbone.

Man up, Shirley Tiam, the bucs have the same win loss record as the Lions, it was just a bad matchup this game for the Bucs.

The Bucs lead their division, the Lions don't.

Pretty sissified to only bitch at length about Baker this one game, and play stupid all the other great games. Need to grow up, Shirley Tiam.

[Marvin the Martian]

@nickers said:

You really want to witness an amazing Pianist.. Checkout Yuja Wang... Her point/counterpoint melody skills are off the charts.. Her interpretations of Rachmaninoff are completely stunning... Shes not only technically gifted.. She is very dynamic with emotion... It's amazing to watch and take in...

She is impressive as is the organist

[calfoxwc]

oh, boo hoo, boy who is afraid to play fantasy football, and won't talk about being, or not being, a "very tight end" in an lgbqlomnp college, and only bitches about Baker's bad game, after the whole offense imploded. Bitchers/haters gonna bitch and hate. Have a nice day somewhere you won't be disagreed with Tiam. Evans was the only hope, and he ended up with a broken collarbone.

Man up, Shirley Tiam, the bucs have the same win loss record as the Lions, it was just a bad matchup this game for the Bucs.

The Bucs lead their division, the Lions don't.

Pretty sissified to only bitch at length about Baker this one game, and play stupid all the other great games. Need to grow up, Shirley Tiam, and stop pouting.

[calfoxwc]

I wonder how Steve knew the haters would whine all over this thread.

Very clever !

[calfoxwc]

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[Reality]

For Tia.. 

[Reality]

@calfoxwc said:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/794168016869158

No, no it should not as OL blocked him in to the QB.  

Why one should know FB is not a source for anything but nonsense 

[calfoxwc]

@reality said:

No, no it should not as OL blocked him in to the QB.  

Why one should know FB is not a source for anything but nonsense 

and the olineman made him stick out his leg and trip Baker, otherwise, he would have missed him.

got it.

[Reality]

@calfoxwc said:

and the olineman made him stick out his leg and trip Baker, otherwise, he would have missed him.

got it.

If trying to change direction while being blocked, and seeing the offensive player moving from the spot is "sticking out his leg", sure....  You might want to watch in real speed rather than slow down, which is intentionally done in an effort to fit a narrative.

Again, why FB is only a source for nonsense.  The only thing FB should be used as reference of information for is what your 3rd cousin twice removed is up to. 

[TexasAg1969]

@nickers said:

You really want to witness an amazing Pianist.. Checkout Yuja Wang... Her point/counterpoint melody skills are off the charts.. Her interpretations of Rachmaninoff are completely stunning... Shes not only technically gifted.. She is very dynamic with emotion... It's amazing to watch and take in...

Wonderful nickers. And since you are a guitarist, here is one of my all time favorites on classical guitar whom my wife and I had front row tickets to several decades ago, Christopher Parkening. At first we thought there might be two guitarist on something like this one. 

[nickers]

@texasag1969 said:

Wonderful nickers. And since you are a guitarist, here is one of my all time favorites on classical guitar whom my wife and I had front row tickets to several decades ago, Christopher Parkening. At first we thought there might be two guitarist on something like this one. 

Been a fan of his since I was 14-15 years old..I'm now 60.. Other guys I really liked was John Williams and Jorge Morel.. And naturally Andreas Segovia.

[Flugel]

@calfoxwc said:

oh, boo hoo, boy who is afraid to play fantasy football, and won't talk about being, or not being, a "very tight end" in an lgbqlomnp college, and only bitches about Baker's bad game, after the whole offense imploded. Bitchers/haters gonna bitch and hate. Have a nice day somewhere you won't be disagreed with Tiam. Evans was the only hope, and he ended up with a broken collarbone.

Man up, Shirley Tiam, the bucs have the same win loss record as the Lions, it was just a bad matchup this game for the Bucs.

The Bucs lead their division, the Lions don't.

Pretty sissified to only bitch at length about Baker this one game, and play stupid all the other great games. Need to grow up, Shirley Tiam.

Looks like a whole lotta bitching and hating by you. ?  Speaking of Fantasy football - have you told our audience that you needed to use Yahoo Auto Draft for both of your Fantasy Football Teams you bragged about last year?  Tia understands the game; while you paraphrase media columnists that type what you want/need to hear.  He played the game before getting paid to coach it and summarize film. He's not here to cause trouble like you want to do. He can also disagree like an adult.   With you and Gorka trolling as often as you can - are you inviting me and others to start trolling the Poli Board?   We haven't been doing that at all; but if you're inviting us to do this - I'm pretty sure you'll have Steve on double-secret speed dial again in no time.  Once a Tattle Cal always a Tattle Cal. 

Back to your nonsense, here's the crappiest division in the NFC that only has 1 team with enough talent to compete for 1st place - and they aren't exactly running away with it just yet. If you pay particular attention to the points for (PF) and points against (PA) the Bucs have been outscored.  The 2nd place team also has less PF than PA as does the 3rd and 4th placed team.  While the AFC North hasn't looked much better, if any; some teams are about to get key players back from injury to change this with 10 games left...  

 

[calfoxwc]

well, I guess we will never know if it's true that Shirley Tiam was a "real tight end" at an lgbqlox college, he/she won't say. This article is one that explains the debacle of the Bucs' game, without Tiam's prissy, arrogant, cherry picked hate-mongering stupid crap.

However, moving on:

I simply said:

"Well, Detroit has lost two games too, but I don't know how the hell they lost any. They dominated the Bucs, destroyed the Bucs run and pass game, Baker didn't have wr's get open until he nearly got hammered or did get hammered.... Injuries took their toll on the Bucs to be able to play much at all against the Lions. Baker just got his butt kicked most of the game,"

https://www.si.com/nfl/buccaneers/news/the-good-bad-and-ugly-from-buccaneers-24-9-loss-to-lions

"Give the Detroit Lions their due — they came into this matchup with the Bucs with guys coming off the street into the secondary. The defensive game plan Lions defensive coordinator Kelvin Sheppard put together was so good that it didn't matter who was out there, as Tampa Bay’s offense was stagnant most of the night and failed to gain any consistent momentum. An unestablished run game, pass protection issues and an off night by Baker Mayfield all help lead to an inept offensive performance. "

"Pass Protection 

Baker Mayfield had a tough game himself, but he had no time in the pocket to let routes develop against a banged-up Detroit secondary.

The Lions were down to backups and guys they signed off the street, yet the Bucs weren’t able to get sustained protection to let plays open up. Charlie Heck was abused most of the night and let up two sacks, including the strip sack. Alim McNeil made his return felt along the interior early, getting the best of Graham Barton as the Bucs' interior was buffeted all night long. No one was spared though, as even Tristan Wirfs was beat on an impressive spin move by Aidan Hutchinson. The Bucs tried to get things going in the screen game but had little success. "

"Baker Mayfield 

Mayfield was off on Monday night, and as I alluded to, the pass protection wasn’t exactly ideal to work with. The Lions had an excellent defensive game plan, mixing looks of zone and man coverage disguises to keep Mayfield guessing, and for the most part, it worked. Mayfield was under constant duress, and that led to him making some tough throws off platform, but he overthrew Egbuka and underthrew him on several throws. 

He sailed a ball too high on one play and missed a wide-open Tez Johnson in the endzone on another. He had a tough interception right before halftime. His pass to Otton was late and behind him and was wrestled away by Arthur Maulett. Then, in the fourth quarter trying to put together a comeback, he had the ball punched out and the Bucs were lucky to recover.

He finished the day going 28 of 50 for 228 yards, a touchdown, an interception and a fumble."

Give the Detroit Lions their due — they came into this matchup with the Bucs with guys coming off the street into the secondary. The defensive game plan Lions defensive coordinator Kelvin Sheppard put together was so good that it didn't matter who was out there, as Tampa Bay’s offense was stagnant most of the night and failed to gain any consistent momentum. An unestablished run game, pass protection issues and an off night by Baker Mayfield all help lead to an inept offensive performance. "

[Axe]

Cal, the Bucs beat Det in Detroit last yr. Why? They came to play..

 They laid their yearly predictable primetime egg Mon night and got their asses kicked.. Plain and simple.. Yes, there were some bad and no calls but phhht.. That's every NFL game anymore it seems.. They simply weren't ready and the Lions were loaded for Bear.. No pun intended

Baker played like shit and he knows it..

My biggest concern is the number of batted down passes suddenly.

Go Browns!!

Go Bucs!!

[calfoxwc]

@axe said:

Cal, the Bucs beat Det in Detroit last yr. Why? They came to play..

 They laid their yearly predictable primetime egg Mon night and got their asses kicked.. Plain and simple.. Yes, there were some bad and no calls but phhht.. That's every NFL game anymore it seems.. They simply weren't ready and the Lions were loaded for Bear.. No pun intended

Baker played like shit and he knows it..

My biggest concern is the number of batted down passes suddenly.

Go Browns!!

Go Bucs!!

yep. Baker knows it. I figure the batted passes was because the Lions defensive line shoved the Bucs oline back into Baker way too quick. It was a disaster. I watched it on record, but it was so bad, I deleted it. Detroit is a dominant team - I find it tough to understand how they have lost two games. The Bucs were humiliated. The backup Lion safeties and cbs? wow. That is serious depth - they played like they were the starters.

[Flugel]

@calfoxwc said:

yep. Baker knows it. I figure the batted passes was because the Lions defensive line shoved the Bucs oline back into Baker way too quick. It was a disaster. I watched it on record, but it was so bad, I deleted it. Detroit is a dominant team - I find it tough to understand how they have lost two games. The Bucs were humiliated. The backup Lion safeties and cbs? wow. That is serious depth - they played like they were the starters.

Patrick Mahomes beat that same Detroit team 30-14 a little over a week ago.  Much of that had to do with a 2-3 Chiefs team needing the win more than a 4-1 Lions team heading into that matchup.  Stuff like that & gotta win situations has a way of sharpening your preparation and focus regardless of how many guys are injured. 1 week later, it was the Lions needing the win more at home.

Also, as banged up as Detroit was the other night in the secondary - they only had something like 4 defensive starters left when they entered the playoffs last year.  That was only because they got 2 guys back healthy enough to play.  Not trying to belittle TB's playoff victory last year; but I'll bet Baker can tell the difference in time to throw when Detroit has a healthy Aidan Hutchinson relentlessly pressuring/sacking him vrs no Aidan Hutchinson in the lineup.  I can't believe how good that guy is playing coming off that brutal injury he had last year.  On the other hand, in the game Monday Night - the Bucs' offense really missed RB Bucky Irving's reliability in the running game and short passing game as a prong of attack they've counted on this year.  That guy was lighting it up.

I live in the Tampa area so it's easy to keep up to date with what's happening.

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[calfoxwc]

[syd]

@calfoxwc said:

is that a lbgt flag behind him ?