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  • @dutch-oven said:

    I remember that you wanted him in your mock drafts and that he fell farther than either you or I figured he would, glad to hear he's doing well. 

    Would've been a good choice for the Browns. I still cannot believe the Browns used a top 100 pick on Gabriel. 

    My Athlon Draft Guide had him projected for round 3. Unfortunately my wife used my Lindy's Draft Guide as a fly swatter so I can't remember where they had him projected; since she's a lot stronger and tougher than Calfox News -  I didn't give her a hard time about it.  

    @flugel said:

    My Athlon Draft Guide had him projected for round 3. Unfortunately my wife used my Lindy's Draft Guide as a fly swatter so I can't remember where they had him projected; since she's a lot stronger and tougher Calfox News -  I didn't give her a hard time about it.  

    I just happen to have the Lindy's Draft Guide right here...

    They had Marcus Mbow as a 1st/2nd round prospect. 

  • @flugel said:

    My Athlon Draft Guide had him projected for round 3. Unfortunately my wife used my Lindy's Draft Guide as a fly swatter so I can't remember where they had him projected; since she's a lot stronger and tougher Calfox News -  I didn't give her a hard time about it.  

    I just happen to have the Lindy's Draft Guide right here...

    They had Marcus Mbow as a 1st/2nd round prospect. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I just happen to have the Lindy's Draft Guide right here...

    They had Marcus Mbow as a 1st/2nd round prospect. 

    Yeah, we're on the same page this is the type of talent we needed in the round 3 spot where we drafted the next Doug Flutie instead.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I just happen to have the Lindy's Draft Guide right here...

    They had Marcus Mbow as a 1st/2nd round prospect. 

    Yeah, we're on the same page this is the type of talent we needed in the round 3 spot where we drafted the next Doug Flutie instead.  

    @flugel said:

    Yeah, we're on the same page this is the type of talent we needed in the round 3 spot where we drafted the next Doug Flutie instead.  

    Whoa!  Do you mean Gabriel should be able to drop kick an extra point?  Can ya still do that from the 2 yard line?

  • Speaking of winners and losers I thought I'd throw this in there ...............................?.........daughter's novel last year hit #1 on NY Times bestseller list and today her 2nd in the series sold more in the first week than that one did and hit #3 on that list behind new ones by Grisham and Connelly the same day. Abigail Owen's "The Things Gods Break" is not really about the Browns since her heroine is actually a winner.   

    OK-plug for the book is done. Thanks for listening.?

  • @flugel said:

    Yeah, we're on the same page this is the type of talent we needed in the round 3 spot where we drafted the next Doug Flutie instead.  

    Whoa!  Do you mean Gabriel should be able to drop kick an extra point?  Can ya still do that from the 2 yard line?

    @orion said:

    Whoa!  Do you mean Gabriel should be able to drop kick an extra point?  Can ya still do that from the 2 yard line?

    ? ? Knock it off! 

    To answer your question though... Not sure - but my guess is Gabriel would have to be able to move like Flutie (and we've seen that's not possible) in order to execute such a thing.  Flutie was as agile is it gets not to mention how quick he was (and I'm talking game speed not stop watch).  Some stop watch gems that can't see the field well (straight ahead or peripherally) aren't as fast at the speed of NFL Game.   Will Gabriel vs Sanders reach the level QB controversy Rob Johnson vs Doug Flutie got to in Buffalo?

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  • @orion said:

    And I harken back to the words of the wise old sage..."We're not interested in 4 yard runs.  We want 13 yard passes."  Paul DePodesta.  Well, will ya settle for 4 yard passes then?

    The hope was that Thrash would become a force in the passing game in his 2nd year.  The year isn't over but it doesn't look like he's becoming a force.

    Tillman?  I forget what he looks like.  Oh yeah...Bernie's number...he's a good blocker (for a receiver).  Another 2 catches/game guy.  Our only full size receiver.  6'3"

    Isaiah out on Bond - Another rookie.  Had no TC or Preseason with us.  ( 2nd leading WR )  Made a nice catch once.  Supposed to be fast.

    ...It's sad because we really need a Travis Henry on the team.  But we traded him away because we've got no QB.  It's almost a Chicken and the Egg thing in that what good is a QB without half decent receivers...and what good are half decent receivers without a QB.  But the reality is that we do have a couple of good pass catching TE's and RB's.  The QB actually does come before the egg.  So we did the right thing in setting ourselves us up for the April '26 draft with 2 picks for a QB.  

    Top priorities for the offseason:  QB ( if needed...and it's looking that way ),  OL, WR.    Everything else is several rungs of the ladder below.  If we pick a QB towards the top of the draft in April, then EVERY remaining pick should be OL or WR.  ( that's what Mike Ditka would do ) 🙂 

    But as we saw with Anthony Schwantz... Fast doesn't always translate to good or great..

    @nickers said:

    But as we saw with Anthony Schwantz... Fast doesn't always translate to good or great..

    Nor does it translate to fast in an NFL game for those that don't know where they're going or how to get there (ie; experienced veterans playing faster than rookies in spite of footspeed).  Vision also plays a big role per my last post above. 

    I didn't see your post before - but great point Nicks!

  • The Jags have put Travis Hunter on IR (knee).  I haven't been following his exploits.  I know that he wanted to be a starter on both sides of the ball but I don't know how much he played on D.  But I assume that it now makes them weaker at 2 positions?  

  • The Jags have put Travis Hunter on IR (knee).  I haven't been following his exploits.  I know that he wanted to be a starter on both sides of the ball but I don't know how much he played on D.  But I assume that it now makes them weaker at 2 positions?  

    @orion said:

    The Jags have put Travis Hunter on IR (knee).  I haven't been following his exploits.  I know that he wanted to be a starter on both sides of the ball but I don't know how much he played on D.  But I assume that it now makes them weaker at 2 positions?  

    just in time for myself to put in the raiders D against them this weekend, So from what i understand he has been playing more on O than D and i have no idea how much of a lose he will be,,Just keep losing jags , Just keep losing 

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    @orion said:

    The Jags have put Travis Hunter on IR (knee).  I haven't been following his exploits.  I know that he wanted to be a starter on both sides of the ball but I don't know how much he played on D.  But I assume that it now makes them weaker at 2 positions?  

    just in time for myself to put in the raiders D against them this weekend, So from what i understand he has been playing more on O than D and i have no idea how much of a lose he will be,,Just keep losing jags , Just keep losing 

    @syd said:

    just in time for myself to put in the raiders D against them this weekend, So from what i understand he has been playing more on O than D and i have no idea how much of a lose he will be,,Just keep losing jags , Just keep losing 

    I had him on my FFL team he first 6 weeks and he never did shit. His best day was 64 yd receiving and in our league you get points based on yds and scoring. He never met the 70 yd scoring threshold and never had a TD. He rode my bench the entire time. O points in 6 weeks, so I dropped him at our 6 week drop/redraft date. BTW Jeudy rode my bench too with the same result. Best day was 66 yd receiving. Never scored a TD. Dropped his ass too.

  • @syd said:

    just in time for myself to put in the raiders D against them this weekend, So from what i understand he has been playing more on O than D and i have no idea how much of a lose he will be,,Just keep losing jags , Just keep losing 

    I had him on my FFL team he first 6 weeks and he never did shit. His best day was 64 yd receiving and in our league you get points based on yds and scoring. He never met the 70 yd scoring threshold and never had a TD. He rode my bench the entire time. O points in 6 weeks, so I dropped him at our 6 week drop/redraft date. BTW Jeudy rode my bench too with the same result. Best day was 66 yd receiving. Never scored a TD. Dropped his ass too.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I had him on my FFL team he first 6 weeks and he never did shit. His best day was 64 yd receiving and in our league you get points based on yds and scoring. He never met the 70 yd scoring threshold and never had a TD. He rode my bench the entire time. O points in 6 weeks, so I dropped him at our 6 week drop/redraft date. BTW Jeudy rode my bench too with the same result. Best day was 66 yd receiving. Never scored a TD. Dropped his ass too.

    I picked Jeanty # 1  and Hampton with my 2nd pick. Needless to say i am not doing well,Fucking rookies, but i do have Fanin and he did well last week