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  • T TexasAg1969

    Jags' Cam Little has longest FG in NFL history of 68 yds. Still down 6-3 to Vegas at halftime.

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    @texasag1969 said:

    Jags' Cam Little has longest FG in NFL history of 68 yds. Still down 6-3 to Vegas at halftime.

    Come on Raiders!

    Post Script: Raiders went for the win by going for 2 and failed, Jags win 30-29. ?

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      @texasag1969 said:

      Jags' Cam Little has longest FG in NFL history of 68 yds. Still down 6-3 to Vegas at halftime.

      Come on Raiders!

      Post Script: Raiders went for the win by going for 2 and failed, Jags win 30-29. ?

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      @dutch-oven said:

      Post Script: Raiders went for the win by going for 2 and failed, Jags win 30-29. ?

      Pre - Analytics Controlling Everything - the rule of thumb was, you tie the game before you win it.   -  Darned Jags!

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          @dutch-oven said:

          Post Script: Raiders went for the win by going for 2 and failed, Jags win 30-29. ?

          Pre - Analytics Controlling Everything - the rule of thumb was, you tie the game before you win it.   -  Darned Jags!

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          @orion said:

          Pre - Analytics Controlling Everything - the rule of thumb was, you tie the game before you win it.   -  Darned Jags!

          It sure seems like most of the "old school" thinking has been trashed.

          Teams, especially road teams, bypassing FG attempts when you need points. 

          Going for 2 too soon, like the KC game yesterday ( but it worked).

          I like going for it on 4th down, from say the opponents 35/40 yard line. That makes sense most times ( punters aren't always deadly with the coffin corner or deadening the ball inside the 10). 

          Yeah, the last 5 or 6 seasons, strategy has really changed throughout the league.

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            Yesterday's slate of games weren't too satisfying from my perspective, watched the Steelers actually beat a better ranked opponent for the first time this season, the Raiders hand the game to the Jags. Flacco matching his 4 game stint with the Browns at Cinci although defense doomed them to another defeat.

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              @dutch-oven said:

              Post Script: Raiders went for the win by going for 2 and failed, Jags win 30-29. ?

              Pre - Analytics Controlling Everything - the rule of thumb was, you tie the game before you win it.   -  Darned Jags!

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              @orion said:

              Pre - Analytics Controlling Everything - the rule of thumb was, you tie the game before you win it.   -  Darned Jags!

              I have zero problem with the inferior team going for the win if given the chance. In theory the longer a game goes the better the chance the superior team wins. 

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                Yesterday's slate of games weren't too satisfying from my perspective, watched the Steelers actually beat a better ranked opponent for the first time this season, the Raiders hand the game to the Jags. Flacco matching his 4 game stint with the Browns at Cinci although defense doomed them to another defeat.

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                @mddawg said:

                Yesterday's slate of games weren't too satisfying from my perspective, watched the Steelers actually beat a better ranked opponent for the first time this season, the Raiders hand the game to the Jags. Flacco matching his 4 game stint with the Browns at Cinci although defense doomed them to another defeat.

                With these crazy numbers Flacco is putting up... I wonder if it will be enough to get him on the HOF ballot/nomination list...

                But the question remains..

                Was it Kevin

                The WR room

                Or the culture

                I'm more inclined to believe it's a combination of all the above...

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                  @dutch-oven said:

                  Post Script: Raiders went for the win by going for 2 and failed, Jags win 30-29. ?

                  Pre - Analytics Controlling Everything - the rule of thumb was, you tie the game before you win it.   -  Darned Jags!

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                  @orion said:

                  Pre - Analytics Controlling Everything - the rule of thumb was, you tie the game before you win it.   -  Darned Jags!

                  "Go for the win at home, tie on the road"  Raiders chose the former. 

                    Reminds me of one of my favorite plays in Buckeye history.  scUM decided to follow the same mantra in 2013.  Couldn't blame them either, they had momentum and a bad Buckeye defense on the ropes.   Fell short on a heads up play from Tyvis Powell. 

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                    @mddawg said:

                    Yesterday's slate of games weren't too satisfying from my perspective, watched the Steelers actually beat a better ranked opponent for the first time this season, the Raiders hand the game to the Jags. Flacco matching his 4 game stint with the Browns at Cinci although defense doomed them to another defeat.

                    With these crazy numbers Flacco is putting up... I wonder if it will be enough to get him on the HOF ballot/nomination list...

                    But the question remains..

                    Was it Kevin

                    The WR room

                    Or the culture

                    I'm more inclined to believe it's a combination of all the above...

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                    @nickers said:

                    With these crazy numbers Flacco is putting up... I wonder if it will be enough to get him on the HOF ballot/nomination list...

                    But the question remains..

                    Was it Kevin

                    The WR room

                    Or the culture

                    I'm more inclined to believe it's a combination of all the above...

                    It's not Kevin, although we know he can do better. 

                    You can't make a good bowl of chili without good ingredients. 

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                      @nickers said:

                      With these crazy numbers Flacco is putting up... I wonder if it will be enough to get him on the HOF ballot/nomination list...

                      But the question remains..

                      Was it Kevin

                      The WR room

                      Or the culture

                      I'm more inclined to believe it's a combination of all the above...

                      It's not Kevin, although we know he can do better. 

                      You can't make a good bowl of chili without good ingredients. 

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                      @bob806 said:

                      It's not Kevin, although we know he can do better. 

                      You can't make a good bowl of chili without good ingredients. 

                      Kevin has ruined every QB he's ever had and turned them into Checkdown Charlie...

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                        @bob806 said:

                        It's not Kevin, although we know he can do better. 

                        You can't make a good bowl of chili without good ingredients. 

                        Kevin has ruined every QB he's ever had and turned them into Checkdown Charlie...

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                        @nickers said:

                        Kevin has ruined every QB he's ever had and turned them into Checkdown Charlie...

                        Lol, yeah in 2025 riding with Gabriel. 

                        5 QBs in 2023, including the legendary PJ Walker. Baker was pretty damn good in 2020. 

                        I think the frustration of 2024/25 is boiling over, yeah presently things basically suck on offense. 

                        Could Joe Gibbs, Mouse Davis, Bill Walsh, or even Kyle Shanahan sustain drives with this offensive line & WRs? 

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                          @bob806 said:

                          It's not Kevin, although we know he can do better. 

                          You can't make a good bowl of chili without good ingredients. 

                          Kevin has ruined every QB he's ever had and turned them into Checkdown Charlie...

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                          @nickers said:

                          Kevin has ruined every QB he's ever had and turned them into Checkdown Charlie...

                          As in he turns every QB into Charlie Frye or they don't push the ball downfield and take "checkdowns"...?

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                            @nickers said:

                            Kevin has ruined every QB he's ever had and turned them into Checkdown Charlie...

                            As in he turns every QB into Charlie Frye or they don't push the ball downfield and take "checkdowns"...?

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                            @tiamat63 said:

                            As in he turns every QB into Charlie Frye or they don't push the ball downfield and take "checkdowns"...?

                            All the above it seems...

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                              @tiamat63 said:

                              As in he turns every QB into Charlie Frye or they don't push the ball downfield and take "checkdowns"...?

                              All the above it seems...

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                              @nickers said:

                              All the above it seems...

                              Downside to that theory. 

                              - Baker had his career 3rd highest comp % and 2nd highest YPA  under Stef

                              - Case Keenum had his career highest comp % and YPS under Stef in Minnesota

                              - Jacoby Brissett is a journeyman. But in the 3 years he's had a full season of starts, his career highest comp% and YPA are under Stef.

                               Then you have QBs who haven't started a full season, or a handful of games. 

                              - Flacco had the 8th highest comp% and tied for the highest YPA of his career in 2023. 

                              The team isn't doing well right now, nobody will argue. But the idea that QB performance bottoms out under Stefanksi is, objectively speaking, not accurate. 

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                                @nickers said:

                                All the above it seems...

                                Downside to that theory. 

                                - Baker had his career 3rd highest comp % and 2nd highest YPA  under Stef

                                - Case Keenum had his career highest comp % and YPS under Stef in Minnesota

                                - Jacoby Brissett is a journeyman. But in the 3 years he's had a full season of starts, his career highest comp% and YPA are under Stef.

                                 Then you have QBs who haven't started a full season, or a handful of games. 

                                - Flacco had the 8th highest comp% and tied for the highest YPA of his career in 2023. 

                                The team isn't doing well right now, nobody will argue. But the idea that QB performance bottoms out under Stefanksi is, objectively speaking, not accurate. 

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                                @tiamat63 said:

                                objectively speaking, not accurate. 

                                consider the source 

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                                  I have this weird feeling Jerry Jones is going to throw a Hail Mary and try to win one more before he shuffles off this mortal coil and give the Browns a massive haul of future draft picks for Myles Garrett. They received two first rounders for Micah Parsons, I wouldn't be shocked if they threw in one more. I just can't see the Browns making it work financially. 

                                  Trade deadline is 4pm EST tomorrow. 

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                                    I have this weird feeling Jerry Jones is going to throw a Hail Mary and try to win one more before he shuffles off this mortal coil and give the Browns a massive haul of future draft picks for Myles Garrett. They received two first rounders for Micah Parsons, I wouldn't be shocked if they threw in one more. I just can't see the Browns making it work financially. 

                                    Trade deadline is 4pm EST tomorrow. 

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                                    @dutch-oven said:

                                    I have this weird feeling Jerry Jones is going to throw a Hail Mary and try to win one more before he shuffles off this mortal coil and give the Browns a massive haul of future draft picks for Myles Garrett. They received two first rounders for Micah Parsons, I wouldn't be shocked if they threw in one more. I just can't see the Browns making it work financially. 

                                    Trade deadline is 4pm EST tomorrow. 

                                    would he help ? I Dunno , but the boys are down by 10 as we speak

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                                      @dutch-oven said:

                                      I have this weird feeling Jerry Jones is going to throw a Hail Mary and try to win one more before he shuffles off this mortal coil and give the Browns a massive haul of future draft picks for Myles Garrett. They received two first rounders for Micah Parsons, I wouldn't be shocked if they threw in one more. I just can't see the Browns making it work financially. 

                                      Trade deadline is 4pm EST tomorrow. 

                                      would he help ? I Dunno , but the boys are down by 10 as we speak

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                                      @syd said:

                                      would he help ? I Dunno , but the boys are down by 10 as we speak

                                      It wouldn't hurt, and he's probably pretty desperate to win a Super Bowl, especially considering most people think the three he won in the 90s were because of Jimmy Johnson. 

                                      But like I said before, I have no idea how the Browns could make it work even if the Cowboys offered a king's fortune for him. His dead cap money would be enormous, and the Browns have Watson's contract albatross to deal with too...

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                                        would he help ? I Dunno , but the boys are down by 10 as we speak

                                        It wouldn't hurt, and he's probably pretty desperate to win a Super Bowl, especially considering most people think the three he won in the 90s were because of Jimmy Johnson. 

                                        But like I said before, I have no idea how the Browns could make it work even if the Cowboys offered a king's fortune for him. His dead cap money would be enormous, and the Browns have Watson's contract albatross to deal with too...

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                                        His dead cap money would be enormous, and the Browns have Watson's contract albatross to deal with too...

                                        well haslem self imposed the death penalty upon us and he will have to find away to pay to get us out of it (if he can)

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                                          @nickers said:

                                          All the above it seems...

                                          Downside to that theory. 

                                          - Baker had his career 3rd highest comp % and 2nd highest YPA  under Stef

                                          - Case Keenum had his career highest comp % and YPS under Stef in Minnesota

                                          - Jacoby Brissett is a journeyman. But in the 3 years he's had a full season of starts, his career highest comp% and YPA are under Stef.

                                           Then you have QBs who haven't started a full season, or a handful of games. 

                                          - Flacco had the 8th highest comp% and tied for the highest YPA of his career in 2023. 

                                          The team isn't doing well right now, nobody will argue. But the idea that QB performance bottoms out under Stefanksi is, objectively speaking, not accurate. 

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                                          @tiamat63 said:

                                          Downside to that theory. 

                                          - Jacoby Brissett is a journeyman. But in the 3 years he's had a full season of starts, his career highest comp% and YPA are under Stef.

                                          And of course last night he led the Cards to a 27-17 win over the Cowboys. 21 of 31, 261 yds , 2 TDs and 0 Ints.  

                                          Where is cal with 4 different posts to prove Browns foolishness in letting him go???

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