The Official Browns Bye Week Game Thread
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Post Script: Raiders went for the win by going for 2 and failed, Jags win 30-29. ?
Pre - Analytics Controlling Everything - the rule of thumb was, you tie the game before you win it. - Darned Jags!
Pre - Analytics Controlling Everything - the rule of thumb was, you tie the game before you win it. - Darned Jags!
"Go for the win at home, tie on the road" Raiders chose the former.
Reminds me of one of my favorite plays in Buckeye history. scUM decided to follow the same mantra in 2013. Couldn't blame them either, they had momentum and a bad Buckeye defense on the ropes. Fell short on a heads up play from Tyvis Powell.
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Yesterday's slate of games weren't too satisfying from my perspective, watched the Steelers actually beat a better ranked opponent for the first time this season, the Raiders hand the game to the Jags. Flacco matching his 4 game stint with the Browns at Cinci although defense doomed them to another defeat.
With these crazy numbers Flacco is putting up... I wonder if it will be enough to get him on the HOF ballot/nomination list...
But the question remains..
Was it Kevin
The WR room
Or the culture
I'm more inclined to believe it's a combination of all the above...
With these crazy numbers Flacco is putting up... I wonder if it will be enough to get him on the HOF ballot/nomination list...
But the question remains..
Was it Kevin
The WR room
Or the culture
I'm more inclined to believe it's a combination of all the above...
It's not Kevin, although we know he can do better.
You can't make a good bowl of chili without good ingredients.
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With these crazy numbers Flacco is putting up... I wonder if it will be enough to get him on the HOF ballot/nomination list...
But the question remains..
Was it Kevin
The WR room
Or the culture
I'm more inclined to believe it's a combination of all the above...
It's not Kevin, although we know he can do better.
You can't make a good bowl of chili without good ingredients.
It's not Kevin, although we know he can do better.
You can't make a good bowl of chili without good ingredients.
Kevin has ruined every QB he's ever had and turned them into Checkdown Charlie...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Kevin has ruined every QB he's ever had and turned them into Checkdown Charlie...
Lol, yeah in 2025 riding with Gabriel.
5 QBs in 2023, including the legendary PJ Walker. Baker was pretty damn good in 2020.
I think the frustration of 2024/25 is boiling over, yeah presently things basically suck on offense.
Could Joe Gibbs, Mouse Davis, Bill Walsh, or even Kyle Shanahan sustain drives with this offensive line & WRs?
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Kevin has ruined every QB he's ever had and turned them into Checkdown Charlie...
As in he turns every QB into Charlie Frye or they don't push the ball downfield and take "checkdowns"...?
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All the above it seems...
Downside to that theory.
- Baker had his career 3rd highest comp % and 2nd highest YPA under Stef
- Case Keenum had his career highest comp % and YPS under Stef in Minnesota
- Jacoby Brissett is a journeyman. But in the 3 years he's had a full season of starts, his career highest comp% and YPA are under Stef.
Then you have QBs who haven't started a full season, or a handful of games.
- Flacco had the 8th highest comp% and tied for the highest YPA of his career in 2023.
The team isn't doing well right now, nobody will argue. But the idea that QB performance bottoms out under Stefanksi is, objectively speaking, not accurate.
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All the above it seems...
Downside to that theory.
- Baker had his career 3rd highest comp % and 2nd highest YPA under Stef
- Case Keenum had his career highest comp % and YPS under Stef in Minnesota
- Jacoby Brissett is a journeyman. But in the 3 years he's had a full season of starts, his career highest comp% and YPA are under Stef.
Then you have QBs who haven't started a full season, or a handful of games.
- Flacco had the 8th highest comp% and tied for the highest YPA of his career in 2023.
The team isn't doing well right now, nobody will argue. But the idea that QB performance bottoms out under Stefanksi is, objectively speaking, not accurate.
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I have this weird feeling Jerry Jones is going to throw a Hail Mary and try to win one more before he shuffles off this mortal coil and give the Browns a massive haul of future draft picks for Myles Garrett. They received two first rounders for Micah Parsons, I wouldn't be shocked if they threw in one more. I just can't see the Browns making it work financially.
Trade deadline is 4pm EST tomorrow.
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I have this weird feeling Jerry Jones is going to throw a Hail Mary and try to win one more before he shuffles off this mortal coil and give the Browns a massive haul of future draft picks for Myles Garrett. They received two first rounders for Micah Parsons, I wouldn't be shocked if they threw in one more. I just can't see the Browns making it work financially.
Trade deadline is 4pm EST tomorrow.
I have this weird feeling Jerry Jones is going to throw a Hail Mary and try to win one more before he shuffles off this mortal coil and give the Browns a massive haul of future draft picks for Myles Garrett. They received two first rounders for Micah Parsons, I wouldn't be shocked if they threw in one more. I just can't see the Browns making it work financially.
Trade deadline is 4pm EST tomorrow.
would he help ? I Dunno , but the boys are down by 10 as we speak
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I have this weird feeling Jerry Jones is going to throw a Hail Mary and try to win one more before he shuffles off this mortal coil and give the Browns a massive haul of future draft picks for Myles Garrett. They received two first rounders for Micah Parsons, I wouldn't be shocked if they threw in one more. I just can't see the Browns making it work financially.
Trade deadline is 4pm EST tomorrow.
would he help ? I Dunno , but the boys are down by 10 as we speak
would he help ? I Dunno , but the boys are down by 10 as we speak
It wouldn't hurt, and he's probably pretty desperate to win a Super Bowl, especially considering most people think the three he won in the 90s were because of Jimmy Johnson.
But like I said before, I have no idea how the Browns could make it work even if the Cowboys offered a king's fortune for him. His dead cap money would be enormous, and the Browns have Watson's contract albatross to deal with too...
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would he help ? I Dunno , but the boys are down by 10 as we speak
It wouldn't hurt, and he's probably pretty desperate to win a Super Bowl, especially considering most people think the three he won in the 90s were because of Jimmy Johnson.
But like I said before, I have no idea how the Browns could make it work even if the Cowboys offered a king's fortune for him. His dead cap money would be enormous, and the Browns have Watson's contract albatross to deal with too...
His dead cap money would be enormous, and the Browns have Watson's contract albatross to deal with too...
well haslem self imposed the death penalty upon us and he will have to find away to pay to get us out of it (if he can)
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All the above it seems...
Downside to that theory.
- Baker had his career 3rd highest comp % and 2nd highest YPA under Stef
- Case Keenum had his career highest comp % and YPS under Stef in Minnesota
- Jacoby Brissett is a journeyman. But in the 3 years he's had a full season of starts, his career highest comp% and YPA are under Stef.
Then you have QBs who haven't started a full season, or a handful of games.
- Flacco had the 8th highest comp% and tied for the highest YPA of his career in 2023.
The team isn't doing well right now, nobody will argue. But the idea that QB performance bottoms out under Stefanksi is, objectively speaking, not accurate.
Downside to that theory.
- Jacoby Brissett is a journeyman. But in the 3 years he's had a full season of starts, his career highest comp% and YPA are under Stef.
And of course last night he led the Cards to a 27-17 win over the Cowboys. 21 of 31, 261 yds , 2 TDs and 0 Ints.
Where is cal with 4 different posts to prove Browns foolishness in letting him go???
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Downside to that theory.
- Jacoby Brissett is a journeyman. But in the 3 years he's had a full season of starts, his career highest comp% and YPA are under Stef.
And of course last night he led the Cards to a 27-17 win over the Cowboys. 21 of 31, 261 yds , 2 TDs and 0 Ints.
Where is cal with 4 different posts to prove Browns foolishness in letting him go???
And of course last night he led the Cards to a 27-17 win over the Cowboys. 21 of 31, 261 yds , 2 TDs and 0 Ints.
Where is cal with 4 different posts to prove Browns foolishness in letting him go
He's in a decent situation. Oline isn't terrible and you have a couple good, young weapons in McBride and MHJ.
Also helps the Cowboys defense is just awful.
That said, goes to show how much the long-game matters. Kyler Murray was not worth the #1 overall pick. When you can't efficiently distribute as an NFL passer, all your running around and explosive plays mean little when your career arch begins to settle.
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And of course last night he led the Cards to a 27-17 win over the Cowboys. 21 of 31, 261 yds , 2 TDs and 0 Ints.
Where is cal with 4 different posts to prove Browns foolishness in letting him go
He's in a decent situation. Oline isn't terrible and you have a couple good, young weapons in McBride and MHJ.
Also helps the Cowboys defense is just awful.
That said, goes to show how much the long-game matters. Kyler Murray was not worth the #1 overall pick. When you can't efficiently distribute as an NFL passer, all your running around and explosive plays mean little when your career arch begins to settle.
He's in a decent situation. Oline isn't terrible and you have a couple good, young weapons in McBride and MHJ.
Also helps the Cowboys defense is just awful.
That said, goes to show how much the long-game matters. Kyler Murray was not worth the #1 overall pick. When you can't efficiently distribute as an NFL passer, all your running around and explosive plays mean little when your career arch begins to settle.
It’s what I’ve been saying for years: to be a longterm successful QB in the NFL you have to be able to sit in the pocket, read defenses and make progressions. How many athletic QBs have we seen over the years start their careers hot but when defenses figure them out struggle to make the next step and have their career stall out?
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