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    Kevin Stefanski and the #Browns met with Shedeur Sanders this morning.

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    Yes.  We were the first team booked to sit with him.

  • Hard pass on Abdul Carter at the #2 spot. 

    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Tests today revealed that potential No. 1 pick Abdul Carter has a stress reaction in his right foot and the Penn State standout will need to decide soon whether to have surgery, sources told ESPN.

    “There are mixed opinions on whether he needs surgery, and we will figure that out Show more
  • I'm not saying this is what we should do, but I think the Browns are going QB at #2. I would prefer trading down, but I think they're pulling the trigger here. Ward if he's there, Sanders if Ward goes one. If they think Ward/Sanders is the guy, then shoot your shot I guess. The Browns are so depressing what's the worst that could happen - Ward/Sanders are a bust and we suck for two years and start over in 2027 with Deshaun's contract off the books? We're going to suck the next two years anyways probably with Deshaun's contract, so swing for a homerun if you're going to swing. 

    We all know the big problem - the Browns are ? at developing QB's. 

    The free agent QB's don't make sense, are 1 year bridges, or we don't have the money - Rodgers (washed), Russ (washed), Fields - would be one year bridges. We can't afford Stafford. The Falcons said they are keeping Cousins as a backup unless they're bluffing, and we can't afford that contract - and he might be washed anyways. Sam Darnold will probably get paid by someone with his performance last year. If we pass on QB, we have to go 2-15 next year to get Arch Manning in 2026 unless next year is a deeper QB class and we can snag a Bo Nix type value without a top 2 pick.

  • Hard pass on Abdul Carter at the #2 spot. 

    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Tests today revealed that potential No. 1 pick Abdul Carter has a stress reaction in his right foot and the Penn State standout will need to decide soon whether to have surgery, sources told ESPN.

    “There are mixed opinions on whether he needs surgery, and we will figure that out Show more

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    Hard pass on Abdul Carter at the #2 spot. 

    Just the other day they said he wouldn't be working out at the Combine because of the shoulder injury and teams would have to wait until his Pro Day/personal workouts.  Do we need another player that's going to have trouble staying healthy over a 17 game season?  #2 is an important pick.  YES, he's talented - but he can't help us if he's not healthy.  We've seen enough of that with our offensive tackles.

  • @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    Hard pass on Abdul Carter at the #2 spot. 

    Just the other day they said he wouldn't be working out at the Combine because of the shoulder injury and teams would have to wait until his Pro Day/personal workouts.  Do we need another player that's going to have trouble staying healthy over a 17 game season?  #2 is an important pick.  YES, he's talented - but he can't help us if he's not healthy.  We've seen enough of that with our offensive tackles.

    @flugel said:

    Just the other day they said he wouldn't be working out at the Combine because of the shoulder injury and teams would have to wait until his Pro Day/personal workouts.  Do we need another player that's going to have trouble staying healthy over a 17 game season?  #2 is an important pick.  YES, he's talented - but he can't help us if he's not healthy.  We've seen enough of that with our offensive tackles.

    Totally. There hasn't been much information on the shoulder. Some said it was a shoulder stinger, others a torn labrum. A stinger only takes a few days to recover from. It's been 7 weeks. A torn labrum is only repaired through surgery. You can play with a torn labrum, but the shoulder will continue to dislocate until you have the surgery and it impacts your play. He probably is holding off on shoulder surgery because it will effect his draft value and money. Now throw in this foot thing. He might slide outside the top 10, although this is a pretty awful draft class. It's funny watching Drew Rosenhaus try to do damage control this morning. The cat's out of the bag my friend.

  • Trade out of #2 , stock pile picks 

  • @flugel said:

    Just the other day they said he wouldn't be working out at the Combine because of the shoulder injury and teams would have to wait until his Pro Day/personal workouts.  Do we need another player that's going to have trouble staying healthy over a 17 game season?  #2 is an important pick.  YES, he's talented - but he can't help us if he's not healthy.  We've seen enough of that with our offensive tackles.

    Totally. There hasn't been much information on the shoulder. Some said it was a shoulder stinger, others a torn labrum. A stinger only takes a few days to recover from. It's been 7 weeks. A torn labrum is only repaired through surgery. You can play with a torn labrum, but the shoulder will continue to dislocate until you have the surgery and it impacts your play. He probably is holding off on shoulder surgery because it will effect his draft value and money. Now throw in this foot thing. He might slide outside the top 10, although this is a pretty awful draft class. It's funny watching Drew Rosenhaus try to do damage control this morning. The cat's out of the bag my friend.

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    Totally. There hasn't been much information on the shoulder. Some said it was a shoulder stinger, others a torn labrum. A stinger only takes a few days to recover from. It's been 7 weeks. A torn labrum is only repaired through surgery. You can play with a torn labrum, but the shoulder will continue to dislocate until you have the surgery and it impacts your play. He probably is holding off on shoulder surgery because it will effect his draft value and money. Now throw in this foot thing. He might slide outside the top 10, although this is a pretty awful draft class. It's funny watching Drew Rosenhaus try to do damage control this morning. The cat's out of the bag my friend.

    Well said Bernie!  If the 2 injuries aren't enough - adding Drew Rosenhaus = strike 3.

  • What the f*** are you people whining about now?

    WSS

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  • What the f*** are you people whining about now?

    WSS

    [email protected]

    @westside-steve said:

    What the f*** are you people whining about now?

    WSS

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    This thread is way out of date.??

  • What the f*** are you people whining about now?

    WSS

    [email protected]

    @westside-steve said:

    What the f*** are you people whining about now?

    WSS

    [email protected]

    ? Thatt a boy!  Thanks for the prompt reply!  

    Does the Bear222 shit in the woods?  No - he just shits in the pot he's about to stir.  I'm sorry I gotta give him an A+ here...

  • I see the mod emails. Was it a flurry of spam?

  • What the f*** are you people whining about now?

    WSS

    [email protected]

    @westside-steve said:

    What the f*** are you people whining about now?

    WSS

    [email protected]

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  • A well run machine we have here.

  • I see the mod emails. Was it a flurry of spam?

    @mld-woody said:

    I see the mod emails. Was it a flurry of spam?

    Looked like a bunch of s*** from a year ago.

    Are you digging back and fish away posthumous warning points or deleting s***?

    WSS

  • I like the idea of posthumous warning points. I would like a lot of those after l die.

  • @westside-steve said:

    What the f*** are you people whining about now?

    WSS

    [email protected]

    ? Thatt a boy!  Thanks for the prompt reply!  

    Does the Bear222 shit in the woods?  No - he just shits in the pot he's about to stir.  I'm sorry I gotta give him an A+ here...

    @flugel said:

    ? Thatt a boy!  Thanks for the prompt reply!  

    Does the Bear222 shit in the woods?  No - he just shits in the pot he's about to stir.  I'm sorry I gotta give him an A+ here...

    Just so that the few people that I actually like can get in touch after this s******* goes away.

  • @mld-woody said:

    I see the mod emails. Was it a flurry of spam?

    Looked like a bunch of s*** from a year ago.

    Are you digging back and fish away posthumous warning points or deleting s***?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Looked like a bunch of s*** from a year ago.

    Are you digging back and fish away posthumous warning points or deleting s***?

    WSS

    Me??? No. I just got a flurry of emails about posts that needed mod approval 

  • Trade out of #2 , stock pile picks 

    @7moses7 said:

    Trade out of #2 , stock pile picks 

    Credit where credit is due, good call. Reviving crusty threads is kinda fun.

  • @flugel said:

    ? Thatt a boy!  Thanks for the prompt reply!  

    Does the Bear222 shit in the woods?  No - he just shits in the pot he's about to stir.  I'm sorry I gotta give him an A+ here...

    Just so that the few people that I actually like can get in touch after this s******* goes away.

    @westside-steve said:

    Just so that the few people that I actually like can get in touch after this s******* goes away.

    Just make sure to let the community know in advance that way we can get ownership transferred over and into the hands of active, football users, on the board. 

  • @westside-steve said:

    Just so that the few people that I actually like can get in touch after this s******* goes away.

    Just make sure to let the community know in advance that way we can get ownership transferred over and into the hands of active, football users, on the board. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Just make sure to let the community know in advance that way we can get ownership transferred over and into the hands of active, football users, on the board. 

    That's what I've tried to do but there are just too many assholes involved.

    If that's your plan I suggest getting contact information of all the people on the board that you'd like to stay in touch with and start your own.

    WSS