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  • @mddawg said:

    Not surprised after despite all the Jaxson Dart hype they were still only 2-8.

    Apparently they have lead by 10 or more points in four of their road games this season… and lost all four games.

    @dutch-oven said:

    Apparently they have lead by 10 or more points in four of their road games this season… and lost all four games.

    Some accountability there, we get outcoached by a team trying to tank and everyone's safe here.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Apparently they have lead by 10 or more points in four of their road games this season… and lost all four games.

    Some accountability there, we get outcoached by a team trying to tank and everyone's safe here.

    @mddawg said:

    Some accountability there, we get outcoached by a team trying to tank and everyone's safe here.

    As of today, I can't argue with you on that. 

    I still think people are getting fired after the season ends. I can't see them winning 6-8 games over the last two seasons and everyone coming back in 2026. I could be wrong. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Apparently they have lead by 10 or more points in four of their road games this season… and lost all four games.

    Some accountability there, we get outcoached by a team trying to tank and everyone's safe here.

    @mddawg said:

    Some accountability there, we get outcoached by a team trying to tank and everyone's safe here.

    Like Dutch, not sure everyone is safe at year end.  Starting with Stef.

    Not sure two STs TDs falls under "out coached".  But certainly at minimum on those two returns the Jets ST out executed 

  • The Browns find more ways to lose that comes right out from another dimension.. It's uncanny and I am sick of the embarrassment... If Bubba worked for me He would've been asked to resign on the spot and not even board the team plane... Steflunkski also... It's one thing to get caught with your pants down once.. but 2x's in one game?... C'mon man... There needs to be accountability..

  • @mddawg said:

    Some accountability there, we get outcoached by a team trying to tank and everyone's safe here.

    Like Dutch, not sure everyone is safe at year end.  Starting with Stef.

    Not sure two STs TDs falls under "out coached".  But certainly at minimum on those two returns the Jets ST out executed 

    @reality said:

    Like Dutch, not sure everyone is safe at year end.  Starting with Stef.

    Not sure two STs TDs falls under "out coached".  But certainly at minimum on those two returns the Jets ST out executed 

    Definitely outcoached, after the bye we couldn't score more than 20 points on this bad defense that traded away it's best two defensive players? Should've been a blow out.

  • @reality said:

    Like Dutch, not sure everyone is safe at year end.  Starting with Stef.

    Not sure two STs TDs falls under "out coached".  But certainly at minimum on those two returns the Jets ST out executed 

    Definitely outcoached, after the bye we couldn't score more than 20 points on this bad defense that traded away it's best two defensive players? Should've been a blow out.

    @mddawg said:

    Definitely outcoached, after the bye we couldn't score more than 20 points on this bad defense that traded away it's best two defensive players? Should've been a blow out.

    We're approaching Hue level of play on offense here. Maybe even exceeding it in the wrong direction.

  • @reality said:

    Like Dutch, not sure everyone is safe at year end.  Starting with Stef.

    Not sure two STs TDs falls under "out coached".  But certainly at minimum on those two returns the Jets ST out executed 

    Definitely outcoached, after the bye we couldn't score more than 20 points on this bad defense that traded away it's best two defensive players? Should've been a blow out.

    @mddawg said:

    Definitely outcoached, after the bye we couldn't score more than 20 points on this bad defense that traded away it's best two defensive players? Should've been a blow out.

    The Jets D isn't actually "bad".  Middle of the league for total yards, top 10 in pass yards, bottom half of the league in rush yards allowed, and near the bottom of the league in PPG (partially impacted by field position deficits).  I am not trying to give a gold star to the CLE staff here.  But they scored 5pts more than their average,  against a meh D.  That's sadly better than they have done against some other lesser Ds (or lesser at the time when played).  

    We do not really know what the outcome would have been without those special teams plays.  Though i personally feel pretty confident 20 points wins that game.  But Tom Brady aint walking in that door.  The problems on O go far beyond the Xs and Os 

  • @mddawg said:

    Definitely outcoached, after the bye we couldn't score more than 20 points on this bad defense that traded away it's best two defensive players? Should've been a blow out.

    The Jets D isn't actually "bad".  Middle of the league for total yards, top 10 in pass yards, bottom half of the league in rush yards allowed, and near the bottom of the league in PPG (partially impacted by field position deficits).  I am not trying to give a gold star to the CLE staff here.  But they scored 5pts more than their average,  against a meh D.  That's sadly better than they have done against some other lesser Ds (or lesser at the time when played).  

    We do not really know what the outcome would have been without those special teams plays.  Though i personally feel pretty confident 20 points wins that game.  But Tom Brady aint walking in that door.  The problems on O go far beyond the Xs and Os 

    @reality said:

    The Jets D isn't actually "bad".  Middle of the league for total yards, top 10 in pass yards, bottom half of the league in rush yards allowed, and near the bottom of the league in PPG (partially impacted by field position deficits).  I am not trying to give a gold star to the CLE staff here.  But they scored 5pts more than their average,  against a meh D.  That's sadly better than they have done against some other lesser Ds (or lesser at the time when played).  

    We do not really know what the outcome would have been without those special teams plays.  Though i personally feel pretty confident 20 points wins that game.  But Tom Brady aint walking in that door.  The problems on O go far beyond the Xs and Os 

    The Browns are the first team in 75 years to have no turnovers, hold the opposing team to less than 175 yards and lose. 

  • The Browns find more ways to lose that comes right out from another dimension.. It's uncanny and I am sick of the embarrassment... If Bubba worked for me He would've been asked to resign on the spot and not even board the team plane... Steflunkski also... It's one thing to get caught with your pants down once.. but 2x's in one game?... C'mon man... There needs to be accountability..

    @nickers said:

    The Browns find more ways to lose that comes right out from another dimension.. 

    They're REALLY GOOD at it!

  • @reality said:

    The Jets D isn't actually "bad".  Middle of the league for total yards, top 10 in pass yards, bottom half of the league in rush yards allowed, and near the bottom of the league in PPG (partially impacted by field position deficits).  I am not trying to give a gold star to the CLE staff here.  But they scored 5pts more than their average,  against a meh D.  That's sadly better than they have done against some other lesser Ds (or lesser at the time when played).  

    We do not really know what the outcome would have been without those special teams plays.  Though i personally feel pretty confident 20 points wins that game.  But Tom Brady aint walking in that door.  The problems on O go far beyond the Xs and Os 

    The Browns are the first team in 75 years to have no turnovers, hold the opposing team to less than 175 yards and lose. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The Browns are the first team in 75 years to have no turnovers, hold the opposing team to less than 175 yards and lose. 

    I've lost count of the numbers of games I've seen where one team losses while severely outgaining the other.  The difference usually ends up with turnovers, field position and/or special teams play.  

    In this case it was the latter for the Browns.    We were out Tressel-balled. 

  • @mddawg said:

    Some accountability there, we get outcoached by a team trying to tank and everyone's safe here.

    As of today, I can't argue with you on that. 

    I still think people are getting fired after the season ends. I can't see them winning 6-8 games over the last two seasons and everyone coming back in 2026. I could be wrong. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I still think people are getting fired after the season ends.

    Losing to the Jets did not help in terms of longevity.  

    I think Stef will probably be gone mostly because of Dillon Gabriel.  Apparently he's been tied to Gabriel since the winter.  Gabriel is his guy and he's going to go down with the Gabriel ship.  I've said in another thread that the season is at a critical point and that he should start Sanders as a last resort type of thing to try and save the season.  He really couldn't be faulted for doing that at this point in time (or even during the Bye week).  IMO, to save his own skin, he should've trotted out Sanders to show to the football world that he's not ready...or at least that he's not better than Gabriel right now.  BUT....he's not going to do that.  He'll bring out Sanders at a point when all is lost.  And then, if Sanders does fairly well, he won't get another HC interview.  Being loyal to Gabriel is setting himself up for failure.