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  • Good to see Judkins back in the game.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    I heard that too on NFL Network this morning.  And I remember that game and thinking we had the next guy and Bernie Part 2…until the following week they announced their move 

    It was such a weird time to be a Cleveland sports fan.

    The Indians were a juggernaut that were in a beautiful two year old ballpark after decades of being a complete afterthought, and the Browns were leaving town. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    It was such a weird time to be a Cleveland sports fan.

    The Indians were a juggernaut that were in a beautiful two year old ballpark after decades of being a complete afterthought, and the Browns were leaving town. 

    Yep.  I leaned into baseball more became a bigger OSU fan I think I watched maybe a handful of NFL games the following year. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    It was such a weird time to be a Cleveland sports fan.

    The Indians were a juggernaut that were in a beautiful two year old ballpark after decades of being a complete afterthought, and the Browns were leaving town. 

    Yep.  I leaned into baseball more became a bigger OSU fan I think I watched maybe a handful of NFL games the following year. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Yep.  I leaned into baseball more became a bigger OSU fan I think I watched maybe a handful of NFL games the following year. 

    Yeah, now that I think of it I started really following Ohio State after the Browns left too. I always rooted for them but it wasn't anything like the Browns. I could be wrong, but I swear growing up in the 80s/early 90s I don't recall Ohio State having the following here in NE Ohio like they have in the last 25 years or so. I remember once in the early 90s they played Northwestern at Cleveland Stadium and I don't recall it being a huge deal  If Ohio State played in Cleveland now it would be bananas. 

  • Meanwhile Myles is just Myles.

  • Well it's safe to say the raiders are bozos but a win is a win and it's pretty clear the players believe in sanders more than the fans do. Was he spectacular? Not really. Was he workable? Yes. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Yep.  I leaned into baseball more became a bigger OSU fan I think I watched maybe a handful of NFL games the following year. 

    Yeah, now that I think of it I started really following Ohio State after the Browns left too. I always rooted for them but it wasn't anything like the Browns. I could be wrong, but I swear growing up in the 80s/early 90s I don't recall Ohio State having the following here in NE Ohio like they have in the last 25 years or so. I remember once in the early 90s they played Northwestern at Cleveland Stadium and I don't recall it being a huge deal  If Ohio State played in Cleveland now it would be bananas. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Yeah, now that I think of it I started really following Ohio State after the Browns left too. I always rooted for them but it wasn't anything like the Browns. I could be wrong, but I swear growing up in the 80s/early 90s I don't recall Ohio State having the following here in NE Ohio like they have in the last 25 years or so. I remember once in the early 90s they played Northwestern at Cleveland Stadium and I don't recall it being a huge deal  If Ohio State played in Cleveland now it would be bananas. 

    Growing up I recall lots of Notre Dame Fans especially in the Youngstown area.  And then OSU emerged and beat them a couple times in the mid 90s.

    The Browns leaving but also Eddie George really rejuvenated OSU and their following. And then you have Tressel I don’t know if he made an impact in the Cleveland area specifically but when he went to OSU he brought a lot of eyes around Trumbull/Mahoning and other areas to OSU. 
     

  • Game - blouses. 

  • It was also nice to see what Sampson has to offer....................speed and moves out of the backfield.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Yeah, now that I think of it I started really following Ohio State after the Browns left too. I always rooted for them but it wasn't anything like the Browns. I could be wrong, but I swear growing up in the 80s/early 90s I don't recall Ohio State having the following here in NE Ohio like they have in the last 25 years or so. I remember once in the early 90s they played Northwestern at Cleveland Stadium and I don't recall it being a huge deal  If Ohio State played in Cleveland now it would be bananas. 

    Growing up I recall lots of Notre Dame Fans especially in the Youngstown area.  And then OSU emerged and beat them a couple times in the mid 90s.

    The Browns leaving but also Eddie George really rejuvenated OSU and their following. And then you have Tressel I don’t know if he made an impact in the Cleveland area specifically but when he went to OSU he brought a lot of eyes around Trumbull/Mahoning and other areas to OSU. 
     

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Growing up I recall lots of Notre Dame Fans especially in the Youngstown area.  And then OSU emerged and beat them a couple times in the mid 90s.

    The Browns leaving but also Eddie George really rejuvenated OSU and their following. And then you have Tressel I don’t know if he made an impact in the Cleveland area specifically but when he went to OSU he brought a lot of eyes around Trumbull/Mahoning and other areas to OSU. 
     

    I really think Tressel coming in, consistently beat scUM and winning the national title made NE Ohio a diehard OhIo State region. 

    The Youngstown area being an area with a lot of Notre Dame fans makes sense, considering the large Italian/Eastern European Catholic population there. 

    mjp was a Mahoning Valley resident and like me, a Ohio State first but also a ND fan too. 

  • It was also nice to see what Sampson has to offer....................speed and moves out of the backfield.

    @texasag1969 said:

    It was also nice to see what Sampson has to offer....................speed and moves out of the backfield.

    I was just thinking early on that he's been pretty much MIA since the opener, nice to see him contribute. 

  • wow sanders really sucked 

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    wow sanders really sucked 

    @syd said:

    wow sanders really sucked 

    Yeah, he forgot we were tanking for a real QB.

  • Great game, dominant defensive performance again.

    Stefanski was non-committal in the after-game press conference about Shedeur becoming the starter. I think it's a no-brainer at this point to let Shedeur keep starting. He's got some things to work on but you can see the difference in his deep balls, scrambling, and athleticism compared to Gabriel. We know what we have in Gabriel, a left-handed Colt McCoy type backup, there's not much of a ceiling there. Stefanski has to let Shedeur start.

  • Great game, dominant defensive performance again.

    Stefanski was non-committal in the after-game press conference about Shedeur becoming the starter. I think it's a no-brainer at this point to let Shedeur keep starting. He's got some things to work on but you can see the difference in his deep balls, scrambling, and athleticism compared to Gabriel. We know what we have in Gabriel, a left-handed Colt McCoy type backup, there's not much of a ceiling there. Stefanski has to let Shedeur start.

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    Great game, dominant defensive performance again.

    Stefanski was non-committal in the after-game press conference about Shedeur becoming the starter. I think it's a no-brainer at this point to let Shedeur keep starting. He's got some things to work on but you can see the difference in his deep balls, scrambling, and athleticism compared to Gabriel. We know what we have in Gabriel, a left-handed Colt McCoy type backup, there's not much of a ceiling there. Stefanski has to let Shedeur start.

    Quite logical, but remember this is the Browns.

  • Great game, dominant defensive performance again.

    Stefanski was non-committal in the after-game press conference about Shedeur becoming the starter. I think it's a no-brainer at this point to let Shedeur keep starting. He's got some things to work on but you can see the difference in his deep balls, scrambling, and athleticism compared to Gabriel. We know what we have in Gabriel, a left-handed Colt McCoy type backup, there's not much of a ceiling there. Stefanski has to let Shedeur start.

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    Great game, dominant defensive performance again.

    Stefanski was non-committal in the after-game press conference about Shedeur becoming the starter. I think it's a no-brainer at this point to let Shedeur keep starting. He's got some things to work on but you can see the difference in his deep balls, scrambling, and athleticism compared to Gabriel. We know what we have in Gabriel, a left-handed Colt McCoy type backup, there's not much of a ceiling there. Stefanski has to let Shedeur start.

    I don’t think it’s Kevin’s decision. And that is where the problems start

  • It's super easy to root against a guy when the hype is absolutely out of control. I mean he did ok but Legendary? Legendary? 

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  • WE WIN!!  

    Wow, the Raiders are bad!  Wow our D looked good!  Ten sacks is crazy!

    We certainly didn't do our draft spot for April any good today.  🙂 

    Happy that Sanders got a win in his first start.  He challenges the back end of the defense occasionally.  He didn't play badly.  He wasn't great...but he's really not surrounded by great.  I think he did better than many of us thought he would.

    Judy catches one ball...and then stops running for a reason only he knows...and then gets the ball poked free.  Geeze!

    I know that the play has been working fairly okay...but I don't like Judkins running the wild cat.  It pretty much screams Run Up The Middle.  Or at least, Run.  

    Crazy good job by the D.  Everyone was making plays.  

    Happy Browns Win everybody!!   🙂  

  • Game - blouses. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Game - blouses. 

    I see what you did there. Ohio’s own Dave Chapelle calling game lol. Missed the game and listened to Ultimate Cleveland SS livestream while driving interstate. Looked like a good start for Shedeur with previously unseen accurate downfield throws. D was lights out it also appears. Will watch the game on DVR before commenting further. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Game - blouses. 

    I see what you did there. Ohio’s own Dave Chapelle calling game lol. Missed the game and listened to Ultimate Cleveland SS livestream while driving interstate. Looked like a good start for Shedeur with previously unseen accurate downfield throws. D was lights out it also appears. Will watch the game on DVR before commenting further. 

    @mddawg said:

    I see what you did there. Ohio’s own Dave Chapelle calling game lol. Missed the game and listened to Ultimate Cleveland SS livestream while driving interstate. Looked like a good start for Shedeur with previously unseen accurate downfield throws. D was lights out it also appears. Will watch the game on DVR before commenting further. 

    I used to have the meme saved but when I switched laptops I cannot figure out how to save memes again. Used to be easy with my old laptops 

  • Other numbers stuff:

    Our O pretty much stunk again.   We only had 11 first downs.  We only converted 3 of 12 third downs.  And we only got 64 rushing yards.  They had the ball for 13 minutes more than we did.  In other words...our D had to play almost a quarter more than our Offense.  

    And yet we won.  So how bad are the Raiders?