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  • https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/onsi/news/this-crazy-stat-shows-how-good-quinshon-judkins-has-been-for-browns-01ka9w8cx63v
     

    This is interesting if true.   I tend to think the offensive meltdowns can’t be boiled down to one issue the offensive line being an easy target but if we block upfront we can’t separate and catch the ball consistently.  Next play we see a missed assignment pressure and throw away or sack.  Next play WR springs open QB misses the read. 
     

    I find it hard to believe we would get many two high safety looks. Aside from Sunday (one play) in 12 weeks what explosiveness have we have shown?  

  • https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/onsi/news/this-crazy-stat-shows-how-good-quinshon-judkins-has-been-for-browns-01ka9w8cx63v
     

    This is interesting if true.   I tend to think the offensive meltdowns can’t be boiled down to one issue the offensive line being an easy target but if we block upfront we can’t separate and catch the ball consistently.  Next play we see a missed assignment pressure and throw away or sack.  Next play WR springs open QB misses the read. 
     

    I find it hard to believe we would get many two high safety looks. Aside from Sunday (one play) in 12 weeks what explosiveness have we have shown?  

    @sdbacker80 said:

    what explosiveness have we have shown?  

    None through the passing game.......except now  we're playing a QB that DOES like to look for a big play.

  • https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/onsi/news/this-crazy-stat-shows-how-good-quinshon-judkins-has-been-for-browns-01ka9w8cx63v
     

    This is interesting if true.   I tend to think the offensive meltdowns can’t be boiled down to one issue the offensive line being an easy target but if we block upfront we can’t separate and catch the ball consistently.  Next play we see a missed assignment pressure and throw away or sack.  Next play WR springs open QB misses the read. 
     

    I find it hard to believe we would get many two high safety looks. Aside from Sunday (one play) in 12 weeks what explosiveness have we have shown?  

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I find it hard to believe we would get many two high safety looks. Aside from Sunday (one play) in 12 weeks what explosiveness have we have shown?  

    Two-Bond and Jeudy who proceeded to get it stripped.

  • Pretty good coverage for the Browns on local tvs this week. A good chunk of the midwest and a bigger chunk of the western states get the game.

    Most of Ohio is good, save for the southern tip and my forsaken homies in Van Wert. MI and WI are in the house, as is most of MN and IA.

    And you can go west young man to see the Browns this week. CA, WA, OR, NV, AZ, AK, UT, ID, and the western 4th of CO.

    NM does not get the game though, which is a real shame because it’s the home of Pistachio Land, and who doesn’t want to watch a Browns game under the shadow of a giant pistachio? I’m sure you all know that Testeverde means “green nut” in Latin. 

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  • @syd said:

    wonder what kind of weather game day will hold ?

    If my phone thinks it's in Cleveland, it says that it might be rainy right up through the start of the game.  High temp 40.

    The weather is the same for both teams.  Everybody gets wet.  The ball and the field is slipperier for everyone.  Put a retractable dome on it and make everyone comfortable.

    @orion said:

    If my phone thinks it's in Cleveland, it says that it might be rainy right up through the start of the game.  High temp 40.

    The weather is the same for both teams.  Everybody gets wet.  The ball and the field is slipperier for everyone.  Put a retractable dome on it and make everyone comfortable.

    looks like  crap weather all the through the Tennessee game, you lucky Basterds (((sarcasm)))

  • Browns +4.5 all day long especially given the weather 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Browns +4.5 all day long especially given the weather 

    I just bet The Browns at +5.5  I also bet Allen to throw at least one pick

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    @sdbacker80 said:

    Browns +4.5 all day long especially given the weather 

    I just bet The Browns at +5.5  I also bet Allen to throw at least one pick

    @syd said:

    I just bet The Browns at +5.5  I also bet Allen to throw at least one pick

    Took it at 39.5.  Forecast wasn't kind. 

  • CMC is an elite weapon to beat pressures.  He's been that since his days in CAR. 

    If you're going to send pressures, you have to make damn sure you identify who is tracking him and closing short space. 

  • Ball dropped on 4th and 1... ?

  • Dropped kickoff catch... ?‍?

  • @mddawg said:

    But the measures to counter the deep throws will open up the run game.

     Most of what happened from the Raiders game were busts by the defensive front and Maxx Crosby getting tired of being chipped.  They lost rush lane integrity when they had no business doing so and Sanders exploited it through buying time with his legs. 

     Fix the gap integrity and you fix the bulk of the issue. 

    @mddawg said:

    Quinshon only needs a glimpse of daylight to break a big one, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

     This plays into my first comment but also the largest contributor to the systemic offensive failures on this team - the OL. 

     I'm shocked that media, fans and analysts haven't mentioned the amount of light box counts defenses have been able to play and limit the running game with.  This goes back as far as week 1 vs CIN. 

    Duo, power, Vertical zone, outside zone, iso...  doesn't matter.  This OL (and the TEs) have been so hit and miss blocking that individual defeats happen almost every series.  When they do, it ends up being TFL or TFNG, which is why we're high up the list in surrendering TFL.  The offense stalls out because we don't have the QB, pass catchers or pass pro to play catch up. 

     This plays into, I guess I'll call it the current NFL defensive "meta" of 3 and 4 deep, especially the latter with these umbrella coverages, and bringing DBs from depth.  

     Under Stefanski with a better OL and Chubb we punished these looks by efficiently running the ball and ripping off explosive plays with it.  Now defenses aren't having to play that +1 in the box to limit the running game.  The OL and TEs aren't making and sustaining blocks.  This is biggest reason the other staple of Stefanskis offense, the 5 & 7 step drop play action game, has struggled all season.   Defenses, when they have the talent up front, can play the +1 on the backend, patiently invite the Browns to run and not surrender explosive passing plays. 

     QJ can only do so much. Unless he's Barry Sanders or Adrian Peterson, he's going to have to continue to create his own running room.  

     It'll be an interesting game this week and the weather might be questionable.  To me, that favors the team with the superior running game.  O/U is already dipped below the key of 41.  Part of me still wants to play the under at 39.5.    

    @tiamat63 said:

      To me, that favors the team with the superior running game.  O/U is already dipped below the key of 41.  Part of me still wants to play the under at 39.5.    

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